[OSList] Accessibility concerns about bending down to pick up paper/pens

Fri Aug 19 07:10:49 PDT 2016

I have seen people reject such help from others, especially with 
considerable verve from folks that one might consider differentially 
abled. One thing I have never seen is someone writing a thought for 
someone else.
What happens regularly with younger children is that they will huddle 
and discuss an issue that they want to put on the paper.

Considering the attempt to expand time and space for the force of 
selforganistion to show up in an OST event more clearly accompanied with 
some manifestation of selforganisation being the mode for participants I 
wonder what the least controlling, least prescreptive... mode might be 
for facilitation.

Regarding the offering of issues I tell people very shortly after I have 
started my introduciton what I will invite them to later on... and I 
actually go through all the steps (walking to the center, getting on the 
floor, jotting down an issue, announcing it to the group, walking up to 
the bulletin board and posting it)... and then continue with my 
introduction. At the point of inviting for issues I have reduced my 
words to almost zero but I do make an inviting gesture towards the center...

Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 19.08.2016 15:28, MK Vidrine via OSList wrote:
> I wonder if there would be any difference in results between inviting
> people to ask their neighbors to help, and inviting people to offer help
> to their neighbors? I'm imagining something like, "When you grab a piece
> of paper, you could also get one for someone else nearby. After you
> write down what you've got in mind, see if you can write down a thought
> for a neighbor also- let's get as many written as we can."
>
> -MK
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 5:13 AM, Jennifer Hurley via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>>
> wrote:
>
>     I often say something in the opening like "if it's difficult for you
>     to bend over or you think your handwriting is too bad, ask one of
>     your neighbors to help." This also gives an easy out to anyone who
>     may be illiterate. I think it also fosters a sense of camaraderie.
>     But it doesn't make it 100% as easy for someone with physical or
>     literacy problems to participate, so it may not be the best answer.
>     I really resist tables inside the circle, though. I've had to do
>     several events that way, and there is definitely a negative impact
>     on the energy in the room.
>
>     Jennifer Hurley
>     Hurley-Franks & Associates
>     267-971-4598 <tel:267-971-4598>
>     Sent from my iPhone
>
>     On Aug 19, 2016, at 12:27 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList
>     <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>     <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
>>     In the many OST's I've participated in or helped open myself, I've
>>     encountered this complaint about having to bend over to pick up
>>     the pens and the papers in only two instances. Both of which were
>>     Universities. In both cases, the leading edge of the complaint
>>     seemed to have to do with women's dresses, but I also heard
>>     something about being "able" prejudiced.
>>
>>     The first University chose to put some tables outside the circle
>>     with some papers and markers. The second one is thinking they will
>>     wheel in a table after the opening into the center, which seems
>>     energetically disruptive.
>>
>>     Have others encountered this? How did you deal with it?
>>
>>         Thanks!
>>         Harold
>>
>>     --
>>     Harold Shinsato
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