[OSList] The Tyranny of Structurelessness
Michael M Pannwitz via OSList
oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Wed Oct 7 23:40:35 PDT 2015
Dear Anne,
my email system has two choices for responding.
One is "Reply", which I chose for this email I am just writing to you.
It goes to you and OSLIST.
The other is "Reply List". When I chose that, it will actually go to the
list only.
When I write to the LIST (or respond to "Reply" to an email I received
from the LIST) I always get an email from the LIST telling me that my
email was accepted. I think that function is something I chose in the
LIST Menu because I dont get the emails I sent to the LIST in my "LIST
in box" (that, I understand has something to do with my email system
itself).
Hmmmm
Have a great day... this includes everyone on the LIST!
greetings from Berlin
mmp
On 08.10.2015 02:47, Anne A Hiha via OSList wrote:
> Hi all
>
> On where the replies go.
>
> I have noticed that my email automatively defaults to the postee's
> e-address. I have to cut and paste the open space address into the 'To'
> for it to be posted to this list. This situation may be the same for
> others. I tested my theory on this email with the 'reply' and 'reply
> all' functions with the same result that the reply would have gone
> direct to Daniel if I had proceded.
>
> I don't know whether this issue is related to my email setup or OsList's.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Anne
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 19:53:01 -0400
> Subject: Re: [OSList] The Tyranny of Structurelessness
> From: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>
> mmp,
>
> Thanks for posting this under [The Tyranny of Structurelessness.]
>
> How interesting that subscribers feel more comfortable contacting you
> personally by email, rather than responding here.
>
> Apparently you are more approachable for interactions and/or easier to
> interact with than OSLIST. I'm sure there is more than one specific
> reason "why" this might be true.
>
> Daniel
>
> On 10/7/15 5:16 PM, Michael M Pannwitz via OSList wrote:
>
> One of the structures, customs, ways of doing stuff, call it what
> you prefer I have repeatedly noticed: A number of Members of the
> LIST I never see on the LIST send responses to stuff I put on the
> LIST. When I think a message would be great for the whole LIST to
> see, I suggest it to the sender. Them Lurkers are definitely a "call
> it what you prefer" element of our organisation.
>
> Cheers from Berlin
> mmp
>
>
>
> On 07.10.2015 22:48, Michael Herman via OSList wrote:
>
> wasn't actually intended as personal feedback, daniel. was
> meant to be
> a comment on the territory we all share, even when we might, any
> of us,
> feel in the moment like an outsider, that disorientation is
> actually a
> part of being included in the experience of open space.
>
> as for the essay, i guess i'm still a little unclear about the
> connection. open space doesn't strike me as any sort of
> striving for
> structurelessness. and i've seen both formal and informal
> structure
> arise in open space. harrison's term in his "millennial
> organization"
> book and what i've seen happen is "appropriate levels of
> structure and
> control."
>
> the oslist doesn't seem structureless, either. there are all
> kinds of
> limiting and supporting structures that make it possible. and then
> there are the customs we've developed, like it's common and
> desired for
> people to reply to the whole list with answers to questions, and
> even
> personal stories and sidebars, rather than always taking that
> stuff to
> private emails. much of the informal stuff was captured in chris
> corrigan's oslist faq's i mentioned earlier. and these things
> change.
> the address changed. the admin changed. the archives moved but
> survived, thanks to harold. now we allow attachments. the
> archives
> were private and later became publicly searchable. new people
> show up
> all the time, and join in. the user's non-guide (ebook)
> captured one
> great moment in joining when julie smith showed up very new to
> all of
> this, asked some great questions, and sparked all kinds of
> conversation
> on many important dimensions of the practice.
>
> maybe your definition of structure will also define
> structureless. i
> guess i don't know what ever could be structureless, in line
> wiht chris'
> story... except that everything's moving, it's all flow, as
> harrison
> says. but maybe those two stories aren't at odds, either...
> some bits
> are just more dense or more slowly flowing than others, but it's
> all
> flow in the end. is flow structureless?
>
> is the tyranny of structurelessness just to say that everything's
> moving, and moving on, even the parts we really like, and that
> can make
> for some difficult experiences... that would also be nobody's
> fault, but
> just part of the shared condition? uncomfortable in spots, to
> be sure,
> but nobody's and no system's "fault" or "responsibility?"
>
> as mentioned earlier, OS and the circle don't make people
> equal. some
> will always be better, faster, stronger, more attractive, more
> connected
> than others. is thta a problem to be solved? i'm having some
> trouble
> connecting "elites," "movement," "authorization" and some other
> terms in
> the essay to my experience in open space and on the list. the
> essay
> seems to want to fix a problem, but one that's not familiar to
> me, at
> least not as a sort of thing to be solved.
>
> why is this essay important for you? how does it inform your
> understanding and practice of open space? or your participation
> on the
> oslist? are we a movement? are you an elite? is open space at
> risk of
> being taken over? help me make the connection(s)?
>
> i notice that you said in your first message that you find this
> "extremely interesting" but you've yet to say why.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Daniel Mezick
> <dan at newtechusa.net <mailto:dan at newtechusa.net>
> <mailto:dan at newtechusa.net> <mailto:dan at newtechusa.net>> wrote:
>
> Yo Michael,
>
> The whole "story-context-is-missing" thing is really just a
> sidebar
> to the important (and much wider) issues around authority.
>
> These authority-issues are raised by the subject essay,
> "The Tyranny
> of Structurelessness." What a great essay!
>
> Story-context is a really, really important topic though,
> especially
> if "missing-context" does have at least the potential to evoke
> feelings of exclusion, in at least some members of the list.
>
> Regarding some of the things you are saying:
>
> You say, "Exclusion is the illusion. A little bit of errant
> and
> temporary mental structure."
>
> I say, my current belief is that my feelings are not illusion
> whatsoever, nor are they error. Rather they are real and
> valid,
> human emotions. They are emotions which, when experienced
> fully, are
> in fact an essential aspect of living well.
>
>
> You say, "...I notice the word tyranny again in the
> subject. Is it
> not some kind of tyranny we all attempt over and over again
> when we
> expect and insist that the world explain itself to/for us?"
>
> I say, my current belief is that inquiry is not simply
> important, it
> is in fact essential. Inquiry is good.
>
>
>
> In any event, and as always, I do appreciate your feedback.
>
>
>
> I am now keen to get back to the main topic !
>
> I wonder how we might, in the here and now, go about
> defining the
> term "structure," for purposes of further discussing issues
> raised
> by this essay with much more clarity.
>
> That's a question I'm keen to explore with you, and the other
> members of this list, inside this thread.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Daniel
> http://www.Prime-OS.com
>
>
>
>
> On 10/6/15 11:56 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
>
> Yes and Daniel, there are the words of a story and the
> feeling/meaning of it. I considered writing a longer
> message in
> the telling of this story, but I wanted to transmit as
> much of the
> spirit/experience of it as I could.
>
> Ralph didn't offer any explanation of his observation that
> morning. He did just like I said, got up in a morning
> news circle,
> it was an OTgathering as I noted but that doesn't
> matter, it was
> open space and morning news. He said his piece and sat
> down. The
> experience for me, and others I have learned only
> later, was
> stunning and disorienting, for sure.
>
> I thought to honor and convey this experience through
> some measure
> of similar brevity in my retelling. Maybe this is what
> you picked
> up on. The disorienting magic of Ralph's moment.
>
> There are moments in open space of surprise and
> disconnect, maybe
> frustration or confusion or misunderstanding or
> disorientation and
> even disappointment that arise in open space. This we
> all know and
> have experienced. This, to me, is not so much a thing
> to be solved
> but the nature of the territory. It just is.
>
> Ralph never did explain his statement, as far as I
> know. He had
> something to say and he said it. That was his only job.
> After
> that, each of us had to figure out for ourselves what, if
> anything, to do with his story, to decide if it was
> wisdom or
> wisecrack. The storyteller, I think, has only the
> responsibility
> for finding and sharing what's true for him/her. The
> rest is up
> to us.
>
> Maybe this points to the learning and challenge that we
> all have
> in open space, namely learning to trust more and more
> that we
> already are always included in a flow that is bigger
> and deeper or
> whatever than we can see or understand or articulate
> sometimes.
> Exclusion is the illusion. A little bit of errant and
> temporary
> mental structure. Discomfort is not a problem (and
> can't be solved
> by anyone!); it's a trail marker. Which is to say
> about exclusion
> and missing out, "welcome!" The good news is, and the
> bad news
> is, you're in! And, it's all still happening Now.
>
> As I scroll up to send tha now, I notice the word
> tyranny again in
> the subject. Is it not some kind of tyranny we all
> attempt over
> and over again when we expect and insist that the world
> explain
> itself to/for us? Is this not something of our central
> challenge,
> something all of us work with? The edge of open space
> is an end
> of comfortable, conventional understanding? Or something?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015, Daniel Mezick via OSList
> <<mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi Harrison,
>
> Thanks for the tips on how to search OSLIST and
> Google, etc. I
> did do those things actually. However, that's a bit
> of an
> effort, especially searching the OSLIST archives. I
> guess I
> could eventually pick up OSLIST culture that way,
> little by
> little. I suppose an earnest person with loads of
> time could
> sift through OSLIST archives to figure this culture
> out. The
> hard way.
>
> However, like the SPIRIT book teaches, there is
> nothing like a
> good story to convey culture. The kind of story with a
> beginning, a middle and an end.
>
> I notice that, when you are the one referring to a
> certain
> OS-mythos story, you usually tend to include the
> short list of
> pertinent details, the essential details that
> provide the
> essential context, so the reader can follow along,
> and engage.
>
> And I'm always grateful for that, as it helps me to
> follow
> along, and get what you are referring to, and more
> fully
> understand the story, and feel oddly included in
> the story.
>
>
> Earlier, I express how not having the context tends
> to (for
> me) arouse feelings of: exclusion, cluelessness,
> and a general
> lack of membership in whatever
> "historic-OS-mythos-episode" is
> being referred to. Sort of an "out group" feeling.
> You know?
> Sometimes, I wonder what the poster might be
> thinking by
> posting random fragments of a "you had to be there"
> kind of
> story. Other times, I wonder if other readers are
> also feeling
> these feelings. Or if it is "just me."
>
> And so: I am very grateful for your stories, in
> part because
> you include the pertinent details, and in so doing,
> make me
> (for one) feel included.
>
> So thanks for including the context in your
> stories. It makes
> them fun, and easy to follow. OSLIST culture
> certainly has
> it's quirks, and for me, your stories make this
> culture easier
> to figure out, and navigate, and enjoy.
>
>
> Getting back to the Tyranny of Structurelessness:
>
> Do you think these 3 assertions by the author are
> actually
> true? Do these ideas have legs?
>
> * /This hegemony can be so easily established
> because the
> idea of "structurelessness" does not prevent
> the formation
> of informal structures, only formal ones./
> * /For everyone to have the opportunity to be
> involved in a
> given group and to participate in its
> activities, the
> structure must be explicit, not implicit. /
> * /It is this informal structure, particularly in
> Unstructured groups, which forms the basis for
> elites./
>
>
> Daniel
>
> On 10/6/15 10:04 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:
>
>
> Dan, Google can often help.
> <https://www.google.com/#q=ralph+copleman>
> <https://www.google.com/#q=ralph+copleman>https://www.google.com/#q=ralph+copleman
>
>
> ho
>
> *From:*OSList
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList
> *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2015 4:51 PM
> *To:* Harrison Owen; World wide Open Space
> Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] The Tyranny of
> Structurelessness
>
> Howdy Harrison,
>
> Thanks for describing the context of the Ralph
> Copleman
> story- I'm very thankful for that info.
>
> I notice that, lots of times here, there are
> references made
> to notable OST episodes, and situations from
> times past...
>
> ...the "OST-mythos" as it were.
>
> These mythical stories often have me wondering
> what I missed,
> and what I might now be missing. (Being
> clueless as I am.)
>
> I'm sure these story-fragment postings are not
> posted with
> intent to exclude anyone, or to be
> discourteous, or unkind.
> More like: some good old basic camaraderie is
> taking place
> between some old friends.
>
> Still: Do these "inside-story-fragments" on
> OSLIST tend to
> evoke feelings of exclusion in readers who were
> /not/ there
> at the time?
>
> Not sure.
>
> <CONFESSION>
>
> As for me, personally, I sometimes find myself
> experiencing
> curiously odd feelings of exclusion, when a
> told-fragment of
> an old OST-mythos story lacks explicit context.
> So I can
> follow the story, you know? The terms
> "outsider" or
> "clueless" or "not in the story" describe
> these feelings
> fairly well. "Not invited?"
>
> I sometimes wonder if some of the hundreds of
> /other/ members
> of OSLIST ever feel this way...or if it is
> "just me."
>
> </CONFESSION>
>
> Daniel
>
>
>
> On 10/4/15 2:59 PM, Harrison Owen via OSList
> wrote:
>
> “Everythingis moving.† .... Michael
> -- I remember
> that moment verywell. And Dan, I’m not
> sure the
> context, etc, would helpvery much. But just
> for the
> record the odd phrase popped out at one of the
> International Symposia on Organization
> Transformation
> which happened to be taking place at a
> small college
> south of Seattle. I have no idea why Ralph
> said what he
> did, and I’m not sure Ralph did either.
> But then againa
> lot of marvelous stuff seems to burst out
> with no obvious
> logic train. Indeed it may be that the lack
> of logic
> train enables the thought?
>
> Â
>
> Whatever the genesis, the phrase wandered
> about my head
> for some time, quite unattached, and it
> also happened
> that I was working my way slowly through
> one of the
> masterpieces of 20^th century western
> philosophy when a
> fuzzy connection began to form. The work
> was that of
> Alfred North Whitehead, and the title:
> “Process and
> Reality.†I’ve been through thebook
> probably 4-5
> times, and I am frank to confess that I
> don’t think I
> really understandit. But then again
> I’veheard a
> number of people with much greater
> credentials, tenure,
> etc – say the same thing. But I did get
> that ithad
> something to do with, “Everything is
> moving.†Andthe
> more I thought and read, the more I felt
> that the good
> philosopher had made a small mistake on his
> title. It
> shouldn’t be “Process/and/ Reality,†but
> rather“Process*is* Reality.â€
>
> Â
>
> Now, Anna Caroline we come to
> “structure,†or perhaps
> Ishould say the fallacy of Structure? Yes I
> know –
> we’ve all been taught that structure is
> the precursor,
> the “determinator†of everything. My
> face looks as it
> doesbecause of my bone structure. My life
> proceeds the
> way it does because of my social structure.
> My business
> works as it does because of the
> organizational structure.
> And of course, meetings happen the way they
> do because of
> meeting structure, which apparently is the
> prime domain
> of “facilitators.†And even if we hadn’t
> been“taught†all this, the primacy of
> structure would
> appearto be blatantly obvious – as plain
> as the nose on
> yourface.
>
> Â
>
> Unfortunately, it does seem to turn out
> that sometimes
> the blatantly obvious is not necessarily
> so. For example
> just looking at things it is pretty clear
> that the world
> is flat, or at the least bumpy flat. And
> any fool can see
> that we are the center of it all – Sun,
> moon, and stars
> whiz around us. But when we think about
> it, as we have
> been doing for the last 500-600 years, the
> obvious
> isn’t so obvious.
>
> Â
>
> It is reasonable to ask what would start to
> make us think
> differently – to the point that we begin
> to question
> theobvious, and even come to see things in
> a different
> way? Taking a leap, I will suggest that it
> all begins
> with the perception of anomaly. Things just
> don’t make
> sense. Our eyes tell us one thing...
> but???? And then we
> start making up stories to explain the
> apparently
> unexplainable. We imagine different ways of
> looking at
> things so that the nonsensical makes sense.
> Some of those
> stories get pretty strange, but if they
> actually work –
> that is to say, helpus to see in new and
> useful ways –
> that’s great!
>
> Â
>
> There is, of course, a proper term for the
> activity I
> have been describing. It is called Theory
> Building. And
> for whatever it is worth, “theory†comes
> from the
> Greek “/theoreinâ//€ /– to see. In a
> word, theories
> are ways of looking atthings – likely
> stories you might
> say.
>
> Â
>
> Now, at long last (too long?) we come to
> the odd story I
> was starting to tell, to the effect that
> Structure is
> only a figment of our imagination, a flash
> frame of a
> moment gone by. Interesting, and helpful
> under some
> circumstances... but always partial and in
> a sense
> illusory. What’s“really†happening is
> all flow.
> Everything is moving –That’s Ralph’s
> story, and I
> guess it is mine too.
>
> Â
>
> So how did I get to such a weird condition?
> It was all
> about anomaly – more particularly, the
> anomaly of Open
> Space.Everything that I had ever learned
> told me that it
> could not work. Unfortunately it did (work)
> – and not
> just once, butevery time, hundreds of
> thousands of times.
> Something was definitely weird. It seemed
> to me that I
> had to re-consider all those things I
> thought I had
> learned, beginning with the basics... such
> things as
> Structure.
>
> Â
>
> Common sense would say that Open Space
> works because we
> somehow created a structure that enabled it
> to work.
> That’s theway things get done, or so I
> had been taught.
> But that’snot the way things happened in
> Open Space.
> Structure emerged along the way and only
> momentarily.
> Worse yet it (structure) seemed to have
> little to do with
> the obvious power, connections,
> creativity.... all of
> which created structures, and passed them
> by. And
> actually it always seemed to me that the
> “structuresâ€
> I “saw†existed only because Iwanted to
> see them –
> or perhaps that I “should†seethem. But
> they were only
> momentary wisps, figments – neverto be
> mistaken for
> what was really going on. Or so I’vebeen
> thinking.
>
> Â
>
> Harrison
>
> Â
>
> Â
>
> Â
>
> Â
>
> Â
>
> Â
>
> *From:*OSList
>
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Michael Herman via OSList
> *Sent:* Saturday, October 03, 2015 6:31 PM
> *To:* JL Walker; World wide Open Space
> Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] The Tyranny of
> Structurelessness
>
> Â
>
> you remind me, harrison, of one morning
> news session
> years ago, somewhere, probably OT... where
> ralph copleman
> walked to the center of the circle and
> announced, all
> serious and mischievous at the same time,
> "it's all
> moving!" Â
>
> Â
>
> then put the stick down and went back to
> his seat.Â
>
>
> Â
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>
> Â
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 1:47 PM, JL Walker
> via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
> I was thinking that maybe the antidote to
> the eventual
> tyranny of structurelessness is to open
> space, again and
> again, until true democracy can emerge.
>
> Â
>
> Juan Luis
>
> Â
>
> *De:*OSList
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>] *En
> nombre de *Rosa Zubizarreta via OSList
> *Enviado el:* sábado, 03 de octubre de
> 2015 12:19
> *Para:* Daniel Mezick; World wide Open
> Space Technology
> email list
> *Asunto:* Re: [OSList] The Tyranny of
> Structurelessness
>
> Â
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> Yes, this is a key piece... I see it as
> very similar in
> some ways to what Ken Wilber wrote later,
>
> about the "shadow side of the green meme".
> (Each meme has
> its own shadow, as well as its own gift...)
>
> So, I love "green". I love circles, I love
> non-hierarchy,
> etc.
> And, part of the "shadow side of the green
> meme" is how
> ideologically anti-structure it can become...
>
> to the point where some people may not even
> agree that
> OST does, in fact, offer a very simple and
> effective
> structure.
>
> By way contrast, think of a situation where
> group of
> people (who don't know about OST, and/or,
> who are having
> a power struggle around "which process to
> use",
> and/or.... ) might easily spending a whole
> weekend
> arguing /about /"how to self-organize
> ourselves"... with
> a great deal more pain and frustration and
> a great deal
> less value.
>
> whereas, instead, IF someone knows about
> OST, and, a
> clear invitation has been extended, and,
> there is enough
> trust/suspension of disbelief so that
> participants are
> willing to enter into that format,
>
> then, we end up with a very simple and
> elegant structure
> that allows people to self-organize
> beautifully....
>
> at least that's how i see it! :-)
>
> with all best wishes,
>
> Rosa
>
> Â
>
>
> */Rosa Zubizarreta/*
>
> /Developing Participatory and
> Co-intelligent Leadership
> Author of *From Conflict to Creative
> Collaboration*
> <http://www.conflict2creativity.com>
> <http://www.conflict2creativity.com>/
>
> /For more resources and learning
> opportunities, visit
> *<http://www.DiaPraxis.com>
> <http://www.DiaPraxis.com>www.DiaPraxis.com
> <http://www.DiaPraxis.com>
> <http://www.DiaPraxis.com> <http://www.DiaPraxis.com>*/
>
> Â
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Daniel
> Mezick via OSList
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>
> THE TYRANNY of STRUCTURELESSNESS
> by Jo Freeman aka Joreen
>
> I find this essay extremely interesting. I
> hope you do, too.
>
>
>
> Here is a pertinent quote, from the essay:
> ".../the idea of "structurelessness" does
> not prevent the
> formation of informal structures, only
> formal ones."
>
> /
> Circa 1970. Context: the women's movement.
> Quick summary
> of the main points: from the essay...
>
> ï‚·/During the years in which the women's
> liberation
> movement has been taking shape, a great
> emphasis has been
> placed on what are called leaderless,
> structureless
> groups as the main -- if not sole --
> organizational form
> of the movement. /
>
> ï‚·/The idea of "structurelessness,"
> however, has moved
> from a healthy counter to those tendencies,
> to becoming a
> goddess in its own right./
>
> ï‚·/Contrary to what we would like to
> believe, there is
> no such thing as a structureless group. /
>
> ï‚·/This means that to strive for a
> structureless group
> is as useful, and as deceptive, as to aim
> at an
> "objective" news story, "value-free" social
> science, or a
> "free" economy. A "laissez faire" group is
> about as
> realistic as a "laissez faire" society; the
> idea becomes
> a smokescreen for the strong or the lucky
> to establish
> unquestioned hegemony over others. /
>
> ï‚·/This hegemony can be so easily
> established because
> the idea of "structurelessness" does not
> prevent the
> formation of informal structures, only
> formal ones. /
>
> ï‚·/For everyone to have the opportunity to
> be involved
> in a given group and to participate in its
> activities,
> the structure must be explicit, not
> implicit. /
>
> ï‚·/It is this informal structure,
> particularly in
> Unstructured groups, which forms the basis
> for elites./
>
>
>
> Just in case you have not yet encountered
> the full text
> of this essay, here it is:
>
> THE TYRANNY of STRUCTURELESSNESS
> by Jo Freeman aka Joreen
> http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm
>
>
>
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