[OSList] Expenses

Tony Budak via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Sun Nov 15 11:02:47 PST 2015


Dear Michael,
Aha lol, my mind is starting to open space to take in all the nuanced 
points of your post, thanks for your insightful words.
I'll need a bit of time to think and act on these ideas, but thanks 
again for much grist for the mill.
Best,
Tony

On 11/15/2015 9:52 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
> Dear Tony,
>
> part of the Open Space World Map project is the policy on surpluses: 
> They can be used for spreading open space. Mostly, it has been zero 
> interest loans pay-back-as-you can... and occasionally, there have 
> been grants (for instance to assist in the funding of someone from 
> Africa to come to a WOSonOS, in this particular example it was the 
> first Berlin WOSonOS and the sum was 700 Euros... in the end the 
> WOSonOS had a surplus itself and reimbursed the World Map revolving 
> credit fund).
>
> But I was thinking of the times when I was scratching together funds 
> for rural development projects in the coop field in the Bootheel of 
> South East Missouri, long before Open Space Technology saw the light 
> of day. We often could generate funds when we were able to point to 
> some funds already raised, especially locally.
>
> I imagine that a good number of the 750 members of OSLIST having 
> earned money with the free for everyone OST are contributing to the 
> spread or use of OST in various ways. So why not asking them. Consider 
> ourselves as a "Foundation" supporting an NGO to facilitate an os-event.
> Some of us might even be interested in facilitating such an event if 
> they in turn would get someone from the NGO helped in this way 
> supplying facilitation the first donor would be doing in the future. 
> In this  way there would be no money flowing at all... but interesting 
> activities on a cooperative and collaborative support. This kind of 
> arrangement could also be reported on in OSLISt spawning more of the 
> same stuff.
>
> Good fortune and greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
>
>
> On 15.11.2015 01:47, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:
>> Hi Michael, Gee, it just didn't occur to me that a EU agency would be
>> interested in local development, I have a lot to learn.
>>
>> So you are teasing right, you have funding available? ;-)
>>
>> Best,
>> Tony
>>
>> On 11/14/2015 5:03 PM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
>>> Did you ask the EU?
>>> Imagine they were interested or imagine not only interested but
>>> actually granting a bundle, how would that shame the locals.
>>> I remember how activists in Seattle got Japanese collaborators to send
>>> care packages (rice) to Seattle when the food stamp program for the
>>> city was threatened.
>>> It worked. Back in the 80s, I think.
>>>
>>> By the way, you never asked me. How come?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> mmp
>>>
>>> On 14.11.2015 22:10, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:
>>>> Yes of course Harrison and Léa,  I should have known that the sauce is
>>>> the secret. Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Are there any archives of sets of measurable success indicators for 
>>>> key
>>>> outputs of the project events that use OST?
>>>>
>>>> Here in the rust belt provinces of Ohio, I doubt that EU is 
>>>> interested.
>>>> But I'm certain that local foundations would look favorable on 
>>>> proposals
>>>> that use base line data gathered from particular lines of change in
>>>> terms of social or self-organizing results, evidence (sauce)?
>>>>
>>>> On 11/14/2015 3:02 PM, Léa via OSList wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello there...
>>>>> I think depending the issue u are dealing with, you can have grants
>>>>> from a lot of eu programs (witch are quite heavy) or from private
>>>>> foundations like evans or open society
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 14 nov. 2015 8:55 PM, "Harrison Owen via OSList"
>>>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>     Tony – I was going to answer that I didn’t know of any. Then I
>>>>>     recalled that our State Department has put multiple millions into
>>>>>     Opening Space in a foreign land. I seem to recall that the EU has
>>>>>     done similar sorts of things, as has The World Bank. Even 
>>>>> parts of
>>>>>     the UN are guilty. Although I am totally certain that none of the
>>>>>     above would ever admit to such a thing. I guess the secret sauce
>>>>>     is the program and intent – OST is just a funny incidental.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Harrison
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>>>>>     *Tony Budak via OSList
>>>>>     *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 12:48 PM
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>>>>>     *Subject:* [OSList] Expenses
>>>>>
>>>>>     Newbie here, who are the Foundations which grant funds to
>>>>>     non-profits to facilitate Open Space gatherings?
>>>>>
>>>>>     Thank you kindly,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Tony
>>>>>
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