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Dear Michael,<br>
Aha lol, my mind is starting to open space to take in all the
nuanced points of your post, thanks for your insightful words. <br>
I'll need a bit of time to think and act on these ideas, but thanks
again for much grist for the mill.<br>
Best,<br>
Tony<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/2015 9:52 AM, Michael M
Pannwitz wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:56489C44.70103@gmail.com" type="cite">Dear
Tony,
<br>
<br>
part of the Open Space World Map project is the policy on
surpluses: They can be used for spreading open space. Mostly, it
has been zero interest loans pay-back-as-you can... and
occasionally, there have been grants (for instance to assist in
the funding of someone from Africa to come to a WOSonOS, in this
particular example it was the first Berlin WOSonOS and the sum was
700 Euros... in the end the WOSonOS had a surplus itself and
reimbursed the World Map revolving credit fund).
<br>
<br>
But I was thinking of the times when I was scratching together
funds for rural development projects in the coop field in the
Bootheel of South East Missouri, long before Open Space Technology
saw the light of day. We often could generate funds when we were
able to point to some funds already raised, especially locally.
<br>
<br>
I imagine that a good number of the 750 members of OSLIST having
earned money with the free for everyone OST are contributing to
the spread or use of OST in various ways. So why not asking them.
Consider ourselves as a "Foundation" supporting an NGO to
facilitate an os-event.
<br>
Some of us might even be interested in facilitating such an event
if they in turn would get someone from the NGO helped in this way
supplying facilitation the first donor would be doing in the
future. In this way there would be no money flowing at all... but
interesting activities on a cooperative and collaborative support.
This kind of arrangement could also be reported on in OSLISt
spawning more of the same stuff.
<br>
<br>
Good fortune and greetings from Berlin
<br>
mmp
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 15.11.2015 01:47, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi Michael, Gee, it just didn't occur to
me that a EU agency would be
<br>
interested in local development, I have a lot to learn.
<br>
<br>
So you are teasing right, you have funding available? ;-)
<br>
<br>
Best,
<br>
Tony
<br>
<br>
On 11/14/2015 5:03 PM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Did you ask the EU?
<br>
Imagine they were interested or imagine not only interested
but
<br>
actually granting a bundle, how would that shame the locals.
<br>
I remember how activists in Seattle got Japanese collaborators
to send
<br>
care packages (rice) to Seattle when the food stamp program
for the
<br>
city was threatened.
<br>
It worked. Back in the 80s, I think.
<br>
<br>
By the way, you never asked me. How come?
<br>
<br>
Cheers
<br>
mmp
<br>
<br>
On 14.11.2015 22:10, Tony Budak via OSList wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">Yes of course Harrison and Léa, I
should have known that the sauce is
<br>
the secret. Thanks
<br>
<br>
Are there any archives of sets of measurable success
indicators for key
<br>
outputs of the project events that use OST?
<br>
<br>
Here in the rust belt provinces of Ohio, I doubt that EU is
interested.
<br>
But I'm certain that local foundations would look favorable
on proposals
<br>
that use base line data gathered from particular lines of
change in
<br>
terms of social or self-organizing results, evidence
(sauce)?
<br>
<br>
On 11/14/2015 3:02 PM, Léa via OSList wrote:
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<br>
Hello there...
<br>
I think depending the issue u are dealing with, you can
have grants
<br>
from a lot of eu programs (witch are quite heavy) or from
private
<br>
foundations like evans or open society
<br>
<br>
Le 14 nov. 2015 8:55 PM, "Harrison Owen via OSList"
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:
<br>
<br>
Tony – I was going to answer that I didn’t know of
any. Then I
<br>
recalled that our State Department has put multiple
millions into
<br>
Opening Space in a foreign land. I seem to recall that
the EU has
<br>
done similar sorts of things, as has The World Bank.
Even parts of
<br>
the UN are guilty. Although I am totally certain that
none of the
<br>
above would ever admit to such a thing. I guess the
secret sauce
<br>
is the program and intent – OST is just a funny
incidental.
<br>
<br>
Harrison
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