[OSList] No silence in opening

Viv McWaters via OSList oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
Mon Jun 15 18:56:53 PDT 2015


Hi Harold

Ah, yes I share your annoyance. For me it has nothing to do with what you did or did not do at the opening etc, I'm sure it's just as it needed to be. It's the second-hand feedback, via email no less. "Some people" nearly always means "me". It's also slightly passive-aggressive. I try not to take on other people's anxieties about open space - of which there seems to be a lot around - and simply get on with it.

Cheers

Viv

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> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> The Open Space for the Jeannette Rankin Peace Center 
> (http://civicrm.jrpc.org/rising-from-the-ashes) I facilitated this 
> Saturday went extremely well. We had a full day of sessions and high 
> levels of engagement, and the center's Executive Director said it way 
> exceeded her expectations.
> 
> After sitting in the glow of so many thank you's, gratitude, and "good 
> job" the day of the event and afterwards - I was surprised and quite 
> annoyed by a bit of feed back second hand through email...
> 
>     "there should have been a 5-minute or so thinking time."
> 
>     "Some people needed more quiet time to gather there thoughts."
> 
> As people become more familiar with Open Space, my personal experience 
> is that rather than a long awkward and anxiety filled pause as 
> facilitators worry if anyone will post a session - instead, especially 
> in public OST events, people launch and line up to populate the agenda. 
> This has bothered me, but this is the first time I've heard the 
> complaint of a *lack* of silence in the opening.
> 
> After my initial annoyance, and speaking with an Open Space colleague, 
> my wife, and another space holding professional, I wondered if this 
> weren't actually something that can help there be authentic open space, 
> and not just a cargo cult going through the motions.
> 
> I'm pondering a way to help there be space before people come to the 
> center to announce their sessions - but without doing some heavy 
> facilitated silence or meditation process.
> 
> Any thoughts, suggestions?
> 
>     Thank you!
>     Harold
> 
> 
> -- 
> Harold Shinsato
> harold at shinsato.com <mailto:harold at shinsato.com>
> http://shinsato.com
> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
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> To: Harold Shinsato <harold at shinsato.com>,    World wide Open Space
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> i think you can build it in, as much or as little as you feel is right for
> each situation, harold, just in the pacing of your opening briefing, if you
> like.  you ring the bells, silence happens.  you decide when to bump that
> silence with walking into the circle.  you decide when to break it when you
> start talking.  you put space between sentences and the different parts of
> your briefing.
> 
> i saw a video of myself in a circle of about 300, one big circle.  my
> pacing was, for me, excrutiatingly slow to watch.  but i also had what felt
> like a lot of ground to cover, to get around and engage with folks all
> along that circle.  when i finished, people literally ran to the center of
> the circle.  so i think it worked pretty well.
> 
> lisa kimball suggested to me recently that a minute of silence is one of
> the simplest possible liberating structure.  (liberatingstructures.com)
> she describes taking a minute at the beginning of a meeting, not in a
> woo-woo way, but in a very practical way:  we're all busy people, coming
> from different places, let's take EXACTLY on minute to let brains finish
> where they've been and get ready for the work we're about to do here...
> will be long for some and too short for others, but promise it will be
> EXACTLY a minute... and then we'll dive into [the work].  her liberating
> structures materials might be posted somewhere at groupjazz.com
> 
> m
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
>> The Open Space for the Jeannette Rankin Peace Center (
>> http://civicrm.jrpc.org/rising-from-the-ashes) I facilitated this
>> Saturday went extremely well. We had a full day of sessions and high levels
>> of engagement, and the center's Executive Director said it way exceeded her
>> expectations.
>> 
>> After sitting in the glow of so many thank you's, gratitude, and "good
>> job" the day of the event and afterwards - I was surprised and quite
>> annoyed by a bit of feed back second hand through email...
>> 
>>    "there should have been a 5-minute or so thinking time."
>> 
>>    "Some people needed more quiet time to gather there thoughts."
>> 
>> As people become more familiar with Open Space, my personal experience is
>> that rather than a long awkward and anxiety filled pause as facilitators
>> worry if anyone will post a session - instead, especially in public OST
>> events, people launch and line up to populate the agenda. This has bothered
>> me, but this is the first time I've heard the complaint of a *lack* of
>> silence in the opening.
>> 
>> After my initial annoyance, and speaking with an Open Space colleague, my
>> wife, and another space holding professional, I wondered if this weren't
>> actually something that can help there be authentic open space, and not
>> just a cargo cult going through the motions.
>> 
>> I'm pondering a way to help there be space before people come to the
>> center to announce their sessions - but without doing some heavy
>> facilitated silence or meditation process.
>> 
>> Any thoughts, suggestions?
>> 
>>    Thank you!
>>    Harold
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Harold Shinsato
>> harold at shinsato.com
>> http://shinsato.com
>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
>> 
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> Harold,
> I think the key is not to *add* something that is not for everyone, but to always work in a *way* that includes everyone. 
> Which you I am sure do.
> 
> So designing ample time for a non-rushed Opening Circle is one of the keys. 
> Giving time for both the quick responders and the reflective thinkers. Breathing.
> Being calm and centered and not rushing your own way of speaking as you explain the principles and process.
> All those things.
> 
> ?there should have been? or ?some people? is often what one person may have enjoyed or needed but not always a spark for changing something for 100% of people.
> 
> I think if there was enough time for Opening Circle, with clarity that you will wait as folks who may still be thinking, reflecting and writing have their time as well, you are making visible the power and nature of invitation for differences. And the breathing? is in there?
> Lisa
> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> The Open Space for the Jeannette Rankin Peace Center (http://civicrm.jrpc.org/rising-from-the-ashes) I facilitated this Saturday went extremely well. We had a full day of sessions and high levels of engagement, and the center's Executive Director said it way exceeded her expectations.
>> 
>> After sitting in the glow of so many thank you's, gratitude, and "good job" the day of the event and afterwards - I was surprised and quite annoyed by a bit of feed back second hand through email...
>> 
>>    "there should have been a 5-minute or so thinking time."
>> 
>>    "Some people needed more quiet time to gather there thoughts."
>> 
>> As people become more familiar with Open Space, my personal experience is that rather than a long awkward and anxiety filled pause as facilitators worry if anyone will post a session - instead, especially in public OST events, people launch and line up to populate the agenda. This has bothered me, but this is the first time I've heard the complaint of a *lack* of silence in the opening.
>> 
>> After my initial annoyance, and speaking with an Open Space colleague, my wife, and another space holding professional, I wondered if this weren't actually something that can help there be authentic open space, and not just a cargo cult going through the motions.
>> 
>> I'm pondering a way to help there be space before people come to the center to announce their sessions - but without doing some heavy facilitated silence or meditation process.
>> 
>> Any thoughts, suggestions?
>> 
>>    Thank you!
>>    Harold
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Harold Shinsato
>> harold at shinsato.com
>> http://shinsato.com
>> twitter: @hajush
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> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
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> Thanks, Micheal, those were both structures I was considering.
> 
> My neighbors in Missoula have lots of facilitated silence in other things
> they do, like yoga, spiritual retreats, etc. I should not have been
> surprised some felt deprived.
> 
> Has anyone else received such feedback, and if so how did you process it.
> 
> Thanks again!
> Harold
> On Jun 15, 2015 12:37 PM, "Michael Herman" <michael at michaelherman.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> i think you can build it in, as much or as little as you feel is right for
>> each situation, harold, just in the pacing of your opening briefing, if you
>> like.  you ring the bells, silence happens.  you decide when to bump that
>> silence with walking into the circle.  you decide when to break it when you
>> start talking.  you put space between sentences and the different parts of
>> your briefing.
>> 
>> i saw a video of myself in a circle of about 300, one big circle.  my
>> pacing was, for me, excrutiatingly slow to watch.  but i also had what felt
>> like a lot of ground to cover, to get around and engage with folks all
>> along that circle.  when i finished, people literally ran to the center of
>> the circle.  so i think it worked pretty well.
>> 
>> lisa kimball suggested to me recently that a minute of silence is one of
>> the simplest possible liberating structure.  (liberatingstructures.com)
>> she describes taking a minute at the beginning of a meeting, not in a
>> woo-woo way, but in a very practical way:  we're all busy people, coming
>> from different places, let's take EXACTLY on minute to let brains finish
>> where they've been and get ready for the work we're about to do here...
>> will be long for some and too short for others, but promise it will be
>> EXACTLY a minute... and then we'll dive into [the work].  her liberating
>> structures materials might be posted somewhere at groupjazz.com
>> 
>> m
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Michael Herman
>> Michael Herman Associates
>> http://MichaelHerman.com
>> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Open Space for the Jeannette Rankin Peace Center (
>>> http://civicrm.jrpc.org/rising-from-the-ashes) I facilitated this
>>> Saturday went extremely well. We had a full day of sessions and high levels
>>> of engagement, and the center's Executive Director said it way exceeded her
>>> expectations.
>>> 
>>> After sitting in the glow of so many thank you's, gratitude, and "good
>>> job" the day of the event and afterwards - I was surprised and quite
>>> annoyed by a bit of feed back second hand through email...
>>> 
>>>    "there should have been a 5-minute or so thinking time."
>>> 
>>>    "Some people needed more quiet time to gather there thoughts."
>>> 
>>> As people become more familiar with Open Space, my personal experience is
>>> that rather than a long awkward and anxiety filled pause as facilitators
>>> worry if anyone will post a session - instead, especially in public OST
>>> events, people launch and line up to populate the agenda. This has bothered
>>> me, but this is the first time I've heard the complaint of a *lack* of
>>> silence in the opening.
>>> 
>>> After my initial annoyance, and speaking with an Open Space colleague, my
>>> wife, and another space holding professional, I wondered if this weren't
>>> actually something that can help there be authentic open space, and not
>>> just a cargo cult going through the motions.
>>> 
>>> I'm pondering a way to help there be space before people come to the
>>> center to announce their sessions - but without doing some heavy
>>> facilitated silence or meditation process.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts, suggestions?
>>> 
>>>    Thank you!
>>>    Harold
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Harold Shinsato
>>> harold at shinsato.com
>>> http://shinsato.com
>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
>>> 
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> I?ve actually received feedback in the other direction. Years ago I did some work with a law firm. They hated the silence I suggested when we gathered as a whole group. It was a lesson to pay attention to the culture of the organization. Silence is helpful and it needs to be contextualized differently for different groups.
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>> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Micheal, those were both structures I was considering.
>> 
>> My neighbors in Missoula have lots of facilitated silence in other things they do, like yoga, spiritual retreats, etc. I should not have been surprised some felt deprived.
>> 
>> Has anyone else received such feedback, and if so how did you process it.
>> 
>> Thanks again!
>> Harold
>> 
>> On Jun 15, 2015 12:37 PM, "Michael Herman" <michael at michaelherman.com <mailto:michael at michaelherman.com>> wrote:
>> i think you can build it in, as much or as little as you feel is right for each situation, harold, just in the pacing of your opening briefing, if you like.  you ring the bells, silence happens.  you decide when to bump that silence with walking into the circle.  you decide when to break it when you start talking.  you put space between sentences and the different parts of your briefing.  
>> 
>> i saw a video of myself in a circle of about 300, one big circle.  my pacing was, for me, excrutiatingly slow to watch.  but i also had what felt like a lot of ground to cover, to get around and engage with folks all along that circle.  when i finished, people literally ran to the center of the circle.  so i think it worked pretty well.
>> 
>> lisa kimball suggested to me recently that a minute of silence is one of the simplest possible liberating structure.  (liberatingstructures.com <http://liberatingstructures.com/>)  she describes taking a minute at the beginning of a meeting, not in a woo-woo way, but in a very practical way:  we're all busy people, coming from different places, let's take EXACTLY on minute to let brains finish where they've been and get ready for the work we're about to do here... will be long for some and too short for others, but promise it will be EXACTLY a minute... and then we'll dive into [the work].  her liberating structures materials might be posted somewhere at groupjazz.com <http://groupjazz.com/>
>> 
>> m
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Michael Herman
>> Michael Herman Associates
>> http://MichaelHerman.com <http://michaelherman.com/>
>> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/>
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>> The Open Space for the Jeannette Rankin Peace Center (http://civicrm.jrpc.org/rising-from-the-ashes <http://civicrm.jrpc.org/rising-from-the-ashes>) I facilitated this Saturday went extremely well. We had a full day of sessions and high levels of engagement, and the center's Executive Director said it way exceeded her expectations.
>> 
>> After sitting in the glow of so many thank you's, gratitude, and "good job" the day of the event and afterwards - I was surprised and quite annoyed by a bit of feed back second hand through email...
>> 
>>    "there should have been a 5-minute or so thinking time."
>> 
>>    "Some people needed more quiet time to gather there thoughts."
>> 
>> As people become more familiar with Open Space, my personal experience is that rather than a long awkward and anxiety filled pause as facilitators worry if anyone will post a session - instead, especially in public OST events, people launch and line up to populate the agenda. This has bothered me, but this is the first time I've heard the complaint of a *lack* of silence in the opening.
>> 
>> After my initial annoyance, and speaking with an Open Space colleague, my wife, and another space holding professional, I wondered if this weren't actually something that can help there be authentic open space, and not just a cargo cult going through the motions.
>> 
>> I'm pondering a way to help there be space before people come to the center to announce their sessions - but without doing some heavy facilitated silence or meditation process.
>> 
>> Any thoughts, suggestions?
>> 
>>    Thank you!
>>    Harold
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Harold Shinsato
>> harold at shinsato.com <mailto:harold at shinsato.com>
>> http://shinsato.com <http://shinsato.com/>
>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
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> From: Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Lisa Heft - <lisaheft at openingspace.net>,    World wide Open Space
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> Hi Harold!
> 
> I often like to suggest in my description of the marketplace that people
> give themselves time to reflect on what they might like to offer and assure
> them that we will have enough time for everyone to get their thoughts out
> on the wall.
> 
> I also often add a "last call" when the popcorn seems to have all been
> popped and remind people that there is still time to think and add your
> thoughts before we get started and then allow whatever silence there is as
> people sit and often a few pop up.
> 
> You could mention in the intro that you will allow a bit of time toward the
> end of the flurry for people to ponder after they have listened to the
> group. Expectation setting helps so much, in my experience, and then people
> can be comfortable listening when there is a rush and know that they will
> have time to think quietly at the end.
> 
> :)
> 
> Tricia Chirumbole
> US: +1-571-232-0942
> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
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> 
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Lisa Heft - via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
> 
>> Harold,
>> I think the key is not to *add* something that is not for everyone, but to
>> always work in a *way* that includes everyone.
>> Which you I am sure do.
>> 
>> So designing ample time for a non-rushed Opening Circle is one of the
>> keys.
>> Giving time for both the quick responders and the reflective thinkers.
>> Breathing.
>> Being calm and centered and not rushing your own way of speaking as you
>> explain the principles and process.
>> All those things.
>> 
>> ?there should have been? or ?some people? is often what one person may
>> have enjoyed or needed but not always a spark for changing something for
>> 100% of people.
>> 
>> I think if there was enough time for Opening Circle, with clarity that you
>> will wait as folks who may still be thinking, reflecting and writing have
>> their time as well, you are making visible the power and nature of
>> invitation for differences. And the breathing? is in there?
>> Lisa
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> The Open Space for the Jeannette Rankin Peace Center (
>>> http://civicrm.jrpc.org/rising-from-the-ashes) I facilitated this
>>> Saturday went extremely well. We had a full day of sessions and high levels
>>> of engagement, and the center's Executive Director said it way exceeded her
>>> expectations.
>>> 
>>> After sitting in the glow of so many thank you's, gratitude, and "good
>>> job" the day of the event and afterwards - I was surprised and quite
>>> annoyed by a bit of feed back second hand through email...
>>> 
>>>    "there should have been a 5-minute or so thinking time."
>>> 
>>>    "Some people needed more quiet time to gather there thoughts."
>>> 
>>> As people become more familiar with Open Space, my personal experience is
>>> that rather than a long awkward and anxiety filled pause as facilitators
>>> worry if anyone will post a session - instead, especially in public OST
>>> events, people launch and line up to populate the agenda. This has bothered
>>> me, but this is the first time I've heard the complaint of a *lack* of
>>> silence in the opening.
>>> 
>>> After my initial annoyance, and speaking with an Open Space colleague, my
>>> wife, and another space holding professional, I wondered if this weren't
>>> actually something that can help there be authentic open space, and not
>>> just a cargo cult going through the motions.
>>> 
>>> I'm pondering a way to help there be space before people come to the
>>> center to announce their sessions - but without doing some heavy
>>> facilitated silence or meditation process.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts, suggestions?
>>> 
>>>    Thank you!
>>>    Harold
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Harold Shinsato
>>> harold at shinsato.com
>>> http://shinsato.com
>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
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> Harold ... Two suggestions. First at the very beginning, I always stand at the edge of the circle in silence. Then, and only then, when the group has become quiet I say ?Good morning. Welcome to Open Space.? I pause another moment (how long is a moment?) and I invite everybody to take a deep breath before the excitement of the day... and let their eyes slowly wander around the circle of those assembled, noticing the people they know, the ones they don?t know, and maybe even those they never want to know. I remind people that this is a unique moment in history, for never before has this group been assembled, and never again will it meet. Further, that this is a totally remarkable group, for it contains precisely the resources needed for the work of the day... which segue ways quite naturally into ?our? theme. 
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> Second suggestion. When it seems that most of the issues have been announced... wait some more time in silence. Wait until it almost seems embarrassing...inviting any late comers. And just before your wait is ?too long,? invite everybody to go to the wall and make their selections. Time for your nap!
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> The Open Space for the Jeannette Rankin Peace Center (http://civicrm.jrpc.org/rising-from-the-ashes) I facilitated this Saturday went extremely well. We had a full day of sessions and high levels of engagement, and the center's Executive Director said it way exceeded her expectations.
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> After sitting in the glow of so many thank you's, gratitude, and "good job" the day of the event and afterwards - I was surprised and quite annoyed by a bit of feed back second hand through email...
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>    "there should have been a 5-minute or so thinking time."
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>    "Some people needed more quiet time to gather there thoughts."
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> As people become more familiar with Open Space, my personal experience is that rather than a long awkward and anxiety filled pause as facilitators worry if anyone will post a session - instead, especially in public OST events, people launch and line up to populate the agenda. This has bothered me, but this is the first time I've heard the complaint of a *lack* of silence in the opening.
> 
> After my initial annoyance, and speaking with an Open Space colleague, my wife, and another space holding professional, I wondered if this weren't actually something that can help there be authentic open space, and not just a cargo cult going through the motions.
> 
> I'm pondering a way to help there be space before people come to the center to announce their sessions - but without doing some heavy facilitated silence or meditation process.
> 
> Any thoughts, suggestions?
> 
>    Thank you!
>    Harold
> 
> 
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> -- 
> Harold Shinsato
> harold at shinsato.com
> http://shinsato.com
> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush> 
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