[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 44, Issue 31
Anne Stadler via OSList
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Wed Oct 22 14:51:21 PDT 2014
Groups and Will
No question in my experience: groups have "purpose" and "Flow" in a particular direction.
The two OS principles refer to Spirit: when IT starts... Etc. When IT'S over... Etc. The existence of the transfinite or Spirit is definitely palpable.
We saw that in Spirited Work (an OS Learning community of practice) several times. Eg:
1. When some of us Stewards began to meditate on "What is Spirited Work's higher purpose?" And got clear collective answers.
2. When, in its 7th year, it was "over". The energy had visibly departed. We all "knew" that. So we declared it "complete" and moved on to experiment with other forms.
The purpose: being a co-creative collective, has continued to manifest in other forms.
I agree with HO re "groups" and "individuals" An individual is a form of group.
"Will" might be evolutionary flow? Maybe?
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> 1. Re: Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
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> 2. Re: Authority Distribution in Open Space
> (Harrison Owen via OSList)
> 3. Re: Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
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> 4. Online Facilitation Unconference - Kick off TOMORROW, Thurs
> 10-23 @12pm Eastern! (Tricia Chirumbole via OSList)
> 5. Re: Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
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> 6. Re: Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
> (Jeff Aitken via OSList)
> 7. Re: December workshops (Berkeley California USA): Open Space
> Learning Workshop December 17-18 + Fabulous Facilitation Forum
> December 19 (Daniel Mezick via OSList)
> 8. Re: Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
> (Tricia Chirumbole via OSList)
> 9. Re: December workshops (Berkeley California USA): Open Space
> Learning Workshop December 17-18 + Fabulous Facilitation Forum
> December 19 (Lisa Heft - via OSList)
> 10. Re: Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
> (Daniel Mezick via OSList)
> 11. Re: Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
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> From: Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Wow - Tricia - great BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Hairy_Audacious_Goal>). Count me in! I
> love that you say you're unreasonable reminds me of the George Bernard
> Shaw quote:
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> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
> depends on the unreasonable man." Or woman!
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> The Dalai Llama said he'd to come to my neighborhood in Montana when the
> Garden of 1000 Buddhas <http://www.ewambuddhagarden.org/> is finished.
> Maybe Montana could host?
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> Cheers,
> Harold
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>> On 10/21/14 1:33 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
>> Side note inspired by Harrison's comment re: introducing OS to
>> researchers at the Tibet Policy Institute.....
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>> ....I have a dream vision of holding an Open Space with the Dalai Lama
>> as a host, on any one of the inspiring topics that he champions and
>> embodies, but my favorites include: interfaith dialogue, compassion,
>> science & _____ fill in the blank with any number of concepts
>> generally held to be unscientific and/or new age...
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>> I have written twice to the Dalai Lama's offices introducing open
>> space and offering to help them explore open space further and to
>> organize and facilitate an open space for them.
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>> I was planning on writing again soon as I am a generally unreasonable
>> person :) I just had to share as I am excited to hear of other
>> energies being placed in a similar direction.
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>> If anyone wants to collaborate on furthering this somewhat crazy goal,
>> I'm in :)
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>> Tricia Chirumbole
>> US: +1-571-232-0942
>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
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> From: Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> John ? your comments regarding groups and individuals certainly track with standard western understanding in which the two are radically distinct and the individual is understood to be the nexus of all action. One person, one vote sort of thing. But I think it is fair to say that the western understanding is not held in all quarters, and possibly not in the majority of quarters (of the world). Alternate opinions obviously do not invalidate the western view, but they might give pause for question.
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> Over the years, I have found that question growing in my mind, and truth to tell I rather think that the radical distinction between individual and group is overdone. Obviously at a gross physical level the distinction holds ? a single body is a lot different from a gaggle of bodies. But that I suggest is only at the gross physical level, and the truth may be somewhat more subtle. Indeed the relationship may be much more dialectic, a matter of polarity, or possibly an artifact of our language and our genuine difficulty to deal with things like that. The waters get a little deep and muddied here, but somewhere along the line I found myself saying, ?We have never seen an organization that was not composed of individuals, but I think the reverse is also true...We have never seen an individual not composed of organizations.? And if you doubt that try to describe who you are without mention of any associated organizations (family, business, country, etc). It might appear that indi
> vidual and organization/group are simply two sides of a common reality?
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> You might reasonably ask...Why bother? What good does all this ?philosophizing? do? I can?t really answer generically, but I can tell you why I kept chasing down all those rabbit holes. The reasons are two, and are inter-connected. The first is my lifelong fascination with Spirit and Consciousness, two words for the same thing, I think. The details of which you may find, should you care, in most of my books, beginning with my first, ?Spirit: Transformation and Development in Organizations.? When thinking about Spirit/Consciousness I found that the distinction between ?individual? and ?Group,? to be confusing. It was all Spirit, sometimes manifesting as ?individual,? sometimes as ?Group,? and sometimes, ?all off the above.?
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> My second reason was all about Open Space. As our collective experience grew over the past 30 years it became clear to me that thoughts about what happened in Open Space did not fit comfortably with what I might call the standard definitions of individual, group, organization, and the processes they all engage. For example, I, and I would believe all of us, have witnessed large groups of people making radical departures without any apparent, formal decision making, or even obvious discussion. Words get a little sloppy, but it just seemed they were suddenly flowing in a new direction, and nobody could quite way how that happened. Not always, not everywhere, but often enough to be a noticeable bother. Could I then talk about a group possessing ?will?? Not really, but something like that was happening, even if we didn?t have a ?correct? word for it.
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> So John ? I think the conversation is still getting richer, and probably no closer to closure. But that?s what makes it fun J
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> Sure thing Harold
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> Yes groups have an emergent wholeness, but that does not mean that they take on characteristics we understand in individuals. We should be careful not to anthropomorphise (?) them.
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> Groups definitely have aliveness, needs, strengths, weakenesses, robustness, identity... lots of things. I can understand what these characteristics mean for a collective, as a system, and a collection of individuals. To me they all make sense.
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> I can't understand what "will" means for a group. Nor do I see will in action. Some similar things I do see... e.g. the individuals in a group give consent for a collective decision... but this isn't the same thing as will. This is group behaviour emerging out of a collective of individuals, with individual wills, consenting to be identified with a certain position by virtue of membership (some more loosely bound than others, and all with their own interpretation of the contract).
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> This is not will, it is characteristically different.
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> I am guilty myself of shorthanding, using individual psychological terms to describe group behaviour. Sometimes it is pragmatic, but we shouldn't hold on too tight.
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> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:04 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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> Hi John,
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> Thank you for your engagement on the OSList - I'm greatly enjoying what you are helping us look at.
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> When you spoke about "nothing mystical about" the will of the group, and in fact, that groups don't have a "will" - this goes explicitly against the core thinking I've experienced from several different traditions in looking at the group in the light of systems thinking. To take one tradition, here's a quote from what many call the "coaching bible", "Co-active Coaching: New Skills for Coaching People Toward Success":
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> "A team, an organization, even a partnership or intimate relationship exists as a living system, not simply a collection of individual parts. A human system can be thought of as a group of interdependent members with a common focus. The behavior of the system emerges out of the interaction of its players and is greater than the sum of its parts. The system itself is alive, has needs, strengths, weaknesses, values. It can be robust or fragile. In organization and relationship systems coaching, we refer to the system as the 'third entity'."
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> In this light, would you say more about your thinking that groups don't have will?
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> Thanks,
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> On 10/16/14 12:28 AM, John Baxter wrote:
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> Interesting questions Harold.
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> My first thought regards "will" - there's nothing mystical about it. Groups don't have will, individuals have will... groups just exhibit collective behaviour when these wills are aligned... though I guess it takes much more than that!
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> I think the magic (if not mysticism) of self organisation is that people can and do get together and do things themselves, regardless of formal authority from a boss or a group. All they need is to get adequate resources working towards an intent, with access to the right levers (including time, passion, social capital...; money is often down the list of importance).
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> The Formal Organisation assumes that this doesn't happen, but we all know that it does. Harrison gives good examples.
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> One or two or three people with aligned will might be enough for "where there is a will there is a way". Or in the case of the Pirate Party of Sweden (I just posted here about Swarmwise), the required "will" was 225,000 votes... and of course the thousands of activists who needed to campaign in order to catalyse that will.
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> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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> Harrison,
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> A deep bow of gratitude for your thoughts around the patronizing quality of "empowerment" as well as the rich questions raised in your response to Daniel.
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> Thank you for this quote "...if we understand OST simply to be an invitation to maximize the ongoing process of Self Organization - the basics are already in place and fully operational..."
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> You say *the basics* are already in place. That seems to imply that using OST (for now at least) is helping us get beyond the basics. Is there anything else that helps us get beyond the basics for Self Organizing?
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> Also, to your statement "When there's a will (desire/care), there's almost inevitably a way." Whose will? Is it the "will" of the Group/Organization as a whole?
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> So despite the duly authorized say so of the Boss/Sponsor (or lack thereof), if the "will" of the Group is to do something, it will find a way. Could we better consider "Sponsor" support as the "will" of the Group? And if the will of the Group is at odds with the Boss's will, how do we tell when it'll be ok/safe/legal to run OST despite the Boss "just saying no"?
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> On 10/15/14 10:47 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList wrote:
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> Dan ? Your Sponsor Properties are intriguing. My first-take response would be, Sure. All are useful. And the same could be said for having any party. After all, who would want to go to a party when there is nowhere to go, nothing to consume (resources), and the party itself is contrary to all regulations? End of report. Full stop!
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> But is it? If so a whole mess of teenagers, Gen-X?s, what have you, would be very surprised. My experience aligns with theirs. When there?s a will (desire/care), there?s almost inevitably a way. Somehow the space clears, the consumables manifest, and who cares about the regulations. A fellow parent once said in jest that the fastest way to insure a massive neighborhood teen blowout was 1) Restrict all likely participants to their bedrooms. 2) Remove any and all possible ?consumables,? and 3) Issue a proclamation that the Party Can?t Happen. That?s not a joke son. But of course such behavior could never happen in a well managed, bureaucratic organization. Right?
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> Maybe. But my organizational experience suggests a rather different conclusion. I spent some 10 years in the (US) Federal Health Care establishment, mostly the NIH (National Institutes of Health), which most folks at the time (1970-1980) would describe as hugely bureaucratic and generally well managed. I can?t give you a totally accurate account, but I venture to guess that something like 50% of all the ?program initiatives? I was involved with occurred without ?official? sponsorship, with little to no resources, and no time or space allocated going in. In one situation where we were working to spell out something called ?Competence Based Re-licensure? for physicians ? which was about as popular as a skunk at a garden party ? we worked together for better than a year, involved a broad base of experts (including the past Director of NIH), and produced a product which is still having influence today. At the conclusion of our efforts, the Director of NIH came to me and asked wh
> at the budget had been. My response: ?I don?t know sir. We never found one.?
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> Doubtless that is just the aberrant behavior of HH Owen. But if so, that marvelous creative source of innovation, The Skunk Works, could never have happened. I think Tom Peters named the critter, but anybody involved with the creation of new products and who honestly describes how they happened, will recognize the beast. The poster child, of course is the ?Post-it? from 3M. If you listen to the voice of 3M today, you might think that the new product arose from a careful plan, richly resourced, and fully blessed by the corporate powers that be. Nothing could be further from the truth. Post-its was actually the product of a small motley crew, with virtually no resources, except those they could ?borrow,? often operating in secret to avoid corporate censure.
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> But what does all this have to do with Open Space? Nothing, I guess. And everything, I do believe. Obviously Open Space as a formal entity (sit in circle...) had nothing to do with any of the above. It didn?t exist. On the other hand if we understand OST simply to be an intentional invitation to maximize the ongoing process of Self Organization ? the basics are already in place and fully operational, as has been the case for 13.7 billion years. I have found it very worthwhile to consider the operation of naturally occurring ?Open Space? as a guide to our own efforts with OST. And there is a lot to consider, but in the area of ?sponsorship? it would seem that what Dan has suggested may well be true, but is by no means the whole story. In a word, there is a lot more than meets the eye. I think.
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> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Mezick via OSList
> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:37 AM
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> Hi Harrison,
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> Thanks for your rich reply and explanation of the role of [empowerment].
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> Question:
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> Is is true that if we have the 5 preconditions as you describe, do we still need the following to have an effective OST event?
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> (Note I am assuming a private (not a public-conference-type OST event...)
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> Sponsor Properties:
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> 1. A Sponsor who has permission from the org, to allocate some of the org's scarce capital, to pay for the event expenses;
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> 2. A Sponsor who has permission from the org, to invite people to spend a day if they so choose, by accepting the invite;
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> 3. A Sponsor who has permission from the org, and is willing and able to "keep it open", with all the issues "on the table" with no issues "off limits" as described on page 20 of the GUIDE;
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> 4. A Sponsor who has permission from the org, and is willing to:
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> a) Represent to the people that the Sponsor's plan is to immediately act the (as yet unknown) Proceedings and (drum roll here...)
> b) ...actually follow through and act on the issues that appear in the Proceedings, immediately following the event.
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> If the Sponsor is missing even one of these properties, is it advised to proceed at all?
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> Where is he now? When is he in Pittsburgh or Missoula? Connecticut?
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> DC? And so on
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> Is there an app that shows where he is now? Where he is planning to be?
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>> Wow - Tricia - great BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal). Count me in! I love that you say you're unreasonable reminds me of the George Bernard Shaw quote:
>>
>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." Or woman!
>>
>> The Dalai Llama said he'd to come to my neighborhood in Montana when the Garden of 1000 Buddhas is finished. Maybe Montana could host?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Harold
>>
>>> On 10/21/14 1:33 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
>>> Side note inspired by Harrison's comment re: introducing OS to researchers at the Tibet Policy Institute.....
>>>
>>> ....I have a dream vision of holding an Open Space with the Dalai Lama as a host, on any one of the inspiring topics that he champions and embodies, but my favorites include: interfaith dialogue, compassion, science & _____ fill in the blank with any number of concepts generally held to be unscientific and/or new age...
>>>
>>> I have written twice to the Dalai Lama's offices introducing open space and offering to help them explore open space further and to organize and facilitate an open space for them.
>>>
>>> I was planning on writing again soon as I am a generally unreasonable person :) I just had to share as I am excited to hear of other energies being placed in a similar direction.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to collaborate on furthering this somewhat crazy goal, I'm in :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tricia Chirumbole
>>> US: +1-571-232-0942
>>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>>
>>
>> --
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> open: http://bit.ly/ZGNKrQ <http://bit.ly/ZGNKrQ>*
>
> Sign in as a guest and start posting your sessions! You can post sessions
> on topics where you have expertise and want to share, or in areas that are
> completely foreign to you that you want to learn about - curiosity and
> questions as session topics are welcome!
>
> *Session windows: *
>
> - Five, 3-hour windows of time each day for holding sessions.
> - Each of the 5 windows accommodates at least two of the three
> continents North America, Europa and Australasia.
> - Once scheduling opens tomorrow following the kick-off, we encourage
> you to host your sessions during those times so as to make it easier for
> people from everywhere to participate.
>
> *Let's get global* Like last year #OFU214 is shaping up to be a pretty
> international affair. We currently have people registered from: Canada,
> Finland, France, Germany, Netherlands, New Zealand, South Africa, United
> Kingdom, and the United States.
>
> *Intro to online tool:* The tool we are using Boardthing, is a relatively
> new and simplete online whiteboarding solution. Check out this <2 minute
> intro: http://app.looplogic.com/davegray/boardthing-trailr
>
> *Spread the word!* Please help us get the word out to your friends and
> colleagues - post on LinkedIn and talk about it on social media :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Your #OFU2014 Team
>
> Tricia Chirumbole
>
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>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:22:11 -0400
> From: Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Dan Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>, World wide Open Space Technology
> email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
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> woo hoo! thanks Harold and Dan! I LOVE BHAGs, and I love even more the
> people who love BHAGs!
>
> Thanks for the enthusiasm and support for unreasonable ideas ;)
>
> Harold, thanks for the intel re: the Garden of 1000 Buddhas in Montana -
> what a great anchor and a wonderful excuse to visit Montana :)
>
> Dan, I am a bit of a Dalai stalker - thanks for the app! He will be headed
> to Boston Oct 30th, but that is just a tad short notice!
>
> 2015 is not yet announced...perhaps an invitation is being called for :)
>
> Tricia Chirumbole
> US: +1-571-232-0942
> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Dan Mezick via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Where is he now? When is he in Pittsburgh or Missoula? Connecticut?
>>
>> DC? And so on
>>
>> Is there an app that shows where he is now? Where he is planning to be?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Wow - Tricia - great BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Hairy_Audacious_Goal>). Count me in! I
>> love that you say you're unreasonable reminds me of the George Bernard Shaw
>> quote:
>>
>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
>> depends on the unreasonable man." Or woman!
>>
>> The Dalai Llama said he'd to come to my neighborhood in Montana when the Garden
>> of 1000 Buddhas <http://www.ewambuddhagarden.org/> is finished. Maybe
>> Montana could host?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Harold
>>
>> On 10/21/14 1:33 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
>>
>> Side note inspired by Harrison's comment re: introducing OS to researchers
>> at the Tibet Policy Institute.....
>>
>> ....I have a dream vision of holding an Open Space with the Dalai Lama
>> as a host, on any one of the inspiring topics that he champions and
>> embodies, but my favorites include: interfaith dialogue, compassion,
>> science & _____ fill in the blank with any number of concepts generally
>> held to be unscientific and/or new age...
>>
>> I have written twice to the Dalai Lama's offices introducing open space
>> and offering to help them explore open space further and to organize and
>> facilitate an open space for them.
>>
>> I was planning on writing again soon as I am a generally unreasonable
>> person :) I just had to share as I am excited to hear of other energies
>> being placed in a similar direction.
>>
>> If anyone wants to collaborate on furthering this somewhat crazy goal,
>> I'm in :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Tricia Chirumbole
>> US: +1-571-232-0942
>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Harold Shinsato
>> harold at shinsato.com
>> http://shinsato.com
>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
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> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 10:23:30 -0700
> From: Jeff Aitken via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Dan Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>, World wide Open Space Technology
> email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
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> Two wonderful staff of the Dalai Lama Fellows organization have
> participated in Art of Hosting trainings in the SF Bay area - and have
> used Open Space among other methods during their Ethical Leadership
> gatherings of college age Fellows from around the world.
>
> Unfortunately they have no formal affiliation with the Dalai Lama -
> tho he has endorsed their work (the organization was inspired into
> creation after a talk that he gave at UC Irvine.) They decline it
> seems to consider themselves a conduit to him.
>
> Jeff
>
>> On 10/22/14, Dan Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>> Where is he now? When is he in Pittsburgh or Missoula? Connecticut?
>>
>> DC? And so on
>>
>> Is there an app that shows where he is now? Where he is planning to be?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow - Tricia - great BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal). Count me in! I love
>>> that you say you're unreasonable reminds me of the George Bernard Shaw
>>> quote:
>>>
>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
>>> depends on the unreasonable man." Or woman!
>>>
>>> The Dalai Llama said he'd to come to my neighborhood in Montana when the
>>> Garden of 1000 Buddhas is finished. Maybe Montana could host?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Harold
>>>
>>>> On 10/21/14 1:33 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
>>>> Side note inspired by Harrison's comment re: introducing OS to
>>>> researchers at the Tibet Policy Institute.....
>>>>
>>>> ....I have a dream vision of holding an Open Space with the Dalai Lama as
>>>> a host, on any one of the inspiring topics that he champions and
>>>> embodies, but my favorites include: interfaith dialogue, compassion,
>>>> science & _____ fill in the blank with any number of concepts generally
>>>> held to be unscientific and/or new age...
>>>>
>>>> I have written twice to the Dalai Lama's offices introducing open space
>>>> and offering to help them explore open space further and to organize and
>>>> facilitate an open space for them.
>>>>
>>>> I was planning on writing again soon as I am a generally unreasonable
>>>> person :) I just had to share as I am excited to hear of other energies
>>>> being placed in a similar direction.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone wants to collaborate on furthering this somewhat crazy goal,
>>>> I'm in :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tricia Chirumbole
>>>> US: +1-571-232-0942
>>>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Harold Shinsato
>>> harold at shinsato.com
>>> http://shinsato.com
>>> twitter: @hajush
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OSList mailing list
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>>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:33:19 -0400
> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: Re: [OSList] December workshops (Berkeley California USA):
> Open Space Learning Workshop December 17-18 + Fabulous Facilitation
> Forum December 19
> Message-ID: <5447F86F.7020908 at newtechusa.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>
> Hi Lisa,
>
> I'm happy to include your class-offering notices in course materials for
> a 15++ person class scheduled 10/27-28 in Raleigh NC, arranged and
> sponsored by Scrum Alliance as part of a wider Scrum Coaching Retreat
> event, seen here:
> http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-success-with-open-agile-adoption/
>
> Course materials print Friday. Ha
>
>> On 10/22/14 12:21 AM, Lisa Heft - via OSList wrote:
>> It's me again... !
>>
>> I am also offering the Open Space Learning Workshop -and- a one-day
>> facilitation conference (using Open Space as its format, of course) -
>> directly following.
>> I used to call my facilitation conferences 'Open Space on Open Space'
>> but I realized that we get together and explore everything about
>> facilitation, not just about Open Space. So I simply changed the name,
>> to welcome others who have all sorts of diverse experiences. I have
>> been hosting these for years, and they are always rich with mutual
>> learning. Join us !
>>
>> If you like, take the workshop as a stand-alone learning experience,
>> come just for the one-day conference, or join us for three days of
>> sharing learning about this fascinating work we all do. First the
>> workshop, then the conference. Whatever fits your time and learning
>> interests.
>>
>> Contact me directly if you would like further information describing
>> content, schedule and other details about either or both of these events.
>> And as I mentioned in my London workshop announcement: Thank you for
>> sharing this news with others in your networks and communities via
>> emails, tweets, via facebook or secret messages, shouting over the
>> fence or across a cafe table while enjoying a lovely beverage of choice.
>>
>> As I am registrar-host for all of these US and UK events in December,
>> please recommend to the folks you refer that all inquiries have the
>> name of the event in the email title - thanks.
>>
>> Workshop: The *Open Space Learning Workshop*
>> Wednesday and Thursday December 17 and 18 in Berkeley, California USA
>> - For anyone you know who may be interested in learning about this
>> particular dialogue method used around the world - for those new
>> to the method and also those who are deeply experienced.
>>
>> Conference: The *Fabulous Facilitation Forum*
>> Friday December 19 in Berkeley, California USA
>> - For all of you who asked me for a shorter, weekday facilitation
>> conference, I will be hosting this a few times a year. It
>> is/convened/using the method of Open Space but is about_all_things
>> facilitation - whatever you want to learn and share and explore
>> and discover about any kind or aspect of facilitation that
>> interests, puzzles or inspires you.
>>
>> Both of these workshops follow my usual pricing structure - several
>> levels of pricing plus a pay-the-most-you-can option if you cannot
>> afford the other prices.
>>
>> I welcome you to join me at any of these for our mutual learning - and
>> feel free to invite your friends and colleagues to contact me directly
>> for further information and registration materials about any one of
>> these.
>> And stay tuned for more facilitation workshops, conferences and
>> conversations about facilitation in 2015.
>>
>> Thanks and take care, Lisa
>>
>> ___
>>
>>
>> *Lisa Heft*
>> Consultant, Facilitator, Educator
>> - President Emerita, Open Space Institute US
>> - Fellow Emerita, Columbia University Center for International
>> Conflict Resolution
>> Contributing author:
>> - SAGE Encyclopedia of Action Research
>> - IIAC Bonfire Collection
>> - Beyond Bullets and Bombs: Grassroots Peacebuilding between Israelis
>> and Palestinians
>> Founder, Fabulous Facilitators
>> *Opening Space*
>>
>> ___
>>
>> For everyone who wishes to learn more about the method of Open
>> Space Technology or deepen their existing knowledge by learning more
>> about pre-work, documentation and other elements:
>> *The Open Space Learning Workshop / el Taller de Aprendizaje de
>> Espacio Abierto
>> * - December 8-9, 2014 - London, United Kingdom
>> - December 17-18, 2014 - San Francisco Bay Area (Berkeley)
>>
>> ___
>>
>> For facilitators of all kinds, an interactive knowledge- and
>> experience-exchange conference:
>> *Fabulous Facilitation Forum
>> *- December 19, 2014 - San Francisco Bay Area (Berkeley)
>>
>> ___
>>
>> For facilitators and others who convene groups face-to-face for
>> dialogue and knowledge-exchange, no matter what may be the method or
>> process:
>> *The Power of Pre-Work*
>> - December 10-11, 2014 - London, United Kingdom
>>
>> ___
>>
>> Other workshops, conferences and conversations for facilitators in
>> 2015 - dates and cities / countries to be announced.
>> If you are interested in attending or hosting one of these workshops
>> in your part of the world, contact me directly for more information.
>>
>>
>>
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>
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>
> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>
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> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the
> Agile Manager.
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:38:01 -0400
> From: Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>
> Cc: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
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> Wow! What a great idea Dan! I am impressed and grateful for your initiative!
>
> "Endeavor" duly noted ;)
>
> Image idea is great - let me think on that. Following are his 4 Boston
> engagements 10-30 thru 11-1:
>
> *Teaching in Boston, MA, USA on October 30: *His Holiness will give a
> day-long Buddhist teaching based on *Geshe Langri Thangpa's Eight Verses of
> Training the Mind (lojong tsikgyema)* and confer the*Generation of
> Bodhicitta (semkyi)* organized by the Vietnamese Buddhist community at the
> Wang Centre for Performing Arts. Contact Website: www.prajnaupadesa.net
>
> *Talk in Boston, MA, USA on October 31:* His Holiness will give a talk at
> the International Symposium for Contemplative Studies organized by the Mind
> and Life Institute in the morning at the Boston Marriott Copley. Contact
> Website: http://www.mindandlife.org
>
> *Panel Discussion in Boston, MA, USA on October 31: *His Holiness will
> participate in a panel discussion entitled *Change-Makers for a Better
> World *organized by The Dalai Lama Centre for Ethics and Transformative
> Values in the afternoon. Contact Website:
> http://thecenter.mit.edu/visit2014/
>
> *Public Talk in Boston, MA, USA on November 1: *His Holiness will give a
> public talk on *Educating the Heart and Mind* organized by the Tibetan
> Association of Boston in the morning at TD Gardens. Contact Website:
> www.bostontibet.org
>
> Tricia Chirumbole
> US: +1-571-232-0942
> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>
>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net> wrote:
>>
>> I can endeavor to deliver [something] into his hands (or the hands of one
>> of his peeps) on Oct 30 in Boston.
>> (Note: Emphasis on "endeavor".)
>>
>> I wonder what the [something] might be?
>>
>> They say a picture is worth 1000 words. I wonder if there is a picture of
>> one of those big huge world-record Opening Circles (from long ago) that we
>> might be able to include with the [something.] Or something.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/22/14 1:22 PM, Tricia Chirumbole wrote:
>>
>> woo hoo! thanks Harold and Dan! I LOVE BHAGs, and I love even more the
>> people who love BHAGs!
>>
>> Thanks for the enthusiasm and support for unreasonable ideas ;)
>>
>> Harold, thanks for the intel re: the Garden of 1000 Buddhas in Montana -
>> what a great anchor and a wonderful excuse to visit Montana :)
>>
>> Dan, I am a bit of a Dalai stalker - thanks for the app! He will be
>> headed to Boston Oct 30th, but that is just a tad short notice!
>>
>> 2015 is not yet announced...perhaps an invitation is being called for :)
>>
>> Tricia Chirumbole
>> US: +1-571-232-0942
>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Dan Mezick via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Where is he now? When is he in Pittsburgh or Missoula? Connecticut?
>>>
>>> DC? And so on
>>>
>>> Is there an app that shows where he is now? Where he is planning to be?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wow - Tricia - great BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Hairy_Audacious_Goal>). Count me in! I
>>> love that you say you're unreasonable reminds me of the George Bernard Shaw
>>> quote:
>>>
>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
>>> depends on the unreasonable man." Or woman!
>>>
>>> The Dalai Llama said he'd to come to my neighborhood in Montana when the Garden
>>> of 1000 Buddhas <http://www.ewambuddhagarden.org/> is finished. Maybe
>>> Montana could host?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Harold
>>>
>>> On 10/21/14 1:33 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
>>>
>>> Side note inspired by Harrison's comment re: introducing OS to
>>> researchers at the Tibet Policy Institute.....
>>>
>>> ....I have a dream vision of holding an Open Space with the Dalai Lama
>>> as a host, on any one of the inspiring topics that he champions and
>>> embodies, but my favorites include: interfaith dialogue, compassion,
>>> science & _____ fill in the blank with any number of concepts generally
>>> held to be unscientific and/or new age...
>>>
>>> I have written twice to the Dalai Lama's offices introducing open space
>>> and offering to help them explore open space further and to organize and
>>> facilitate an open space for them.
>>>
>>> I was planning on writing again soon as I am a generally unreasonable
>>> person :) I just had to share as I am excited to hear of other energies
>>> being placed in a similar direction.
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to collaborate on furthering this somewhat crazy goal,
>>> I'm in :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tricia Chirumbole
>>> US: +1-571-232-0942
>>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Harold Shinsato
>>> harold at shinsato.com
>>> http://shinsato.com
>>> twitter: @hajush <http://twitter.com/hajush>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OSList mailing list
>>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
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>>>
>>>
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>>
>> --
>>
>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>
>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>
>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>
>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>
>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile
>> Manager.
>>
>> Explore Agile Team Training
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>
>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>
>> Community.
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 11:41:08 -0700
> From: Lisa Heft - via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>, OSLIST
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] December workshops (Berkeley California USA):
> Open Space Learning Workshop December 17-18 + Fabulous Facilitation
> Forum December 19
> Message-ID: <930E73A1-4676-432A-97EC-62FDA17EF099 at openingspace.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Thanks for passing along the word, Daniel?
> Note that the one-day facilitation conference (Fabulous Facilitation Forum) in Berkeley on December 19 is *not* a training / workshop on or about Open Space.
> However it is a knowledge- and experience-exchange conference about all things facilitation. And because it?s using OS as its format, any topic and exploration is welcome and possible.
>
> For your short reference:
> London, United Kingdom: Open Space Learning Workshop December 8-9, followed by the separate The Power of Pre-Work workshop December 10-11
> Berkeley, California USA: Open Space Learning Workshop December 17-18, followed by Fabulous Facilitation Forum December 19
>
> Looking forward to jumping into learning with old and new friends and colleagues,
> Lisa
>
>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 11:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lisa,
>>
>> I'm happy to include your class-offering notices in course materials for a 15++ person class scheduled 10/27-28 in Raleigh NC, arranged and sponsored by Scrum Alliance as part of a wider Scrum Coaching Retreat event, seen here:
>> http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-success-with-open-agile-adoption/
>>
>> Course materials print Friday. Ha
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 14:28:39 -0400
> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Tricia Chirumbole <tricia at investorswithoutborders.net>, World
> wide Open Space Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Dalai Lama & Open Space (subject change)
> Message-ID: <5447F757.5020705 at newtechusa.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"
>
> I can endeavor to deliver [something] into his hands (or the hands of
> one of his peeps) on Oct 30 in Boston.
> (Note: Emphasis on "endeavor".)
>
> I wonder what the [something] might be?
>
> They say a picture is worth 1000 words. I wonder if there is a picture
> of one of those big huge world-record Opening Circles (from long ago)
> that we might be able to include with the [something.] Or something.
>
>
>> On 10/22/14 1:22 PM, Tricia Chirumbole wrote:
>> woo hoo! thanks Harold and Dan! I LOVE BHAGs, and I love even more the
>> people who love BHAGs!
>>
>> Thanks for the enthusiasm and support for unreasonable ideas ;)
>>
>> Harold, thanks for the intel re: the Garden of 1000 Buddhas in Montana
>> - what a great anchor and a wonderful excuse to visit Montana :)
>>
>> Dan, I am a bit of a Dalai stalker - thanks for the app! He will be
>> headed to Boston Oct 30th, but that is just a tad short notice!
>>
>> 2015 is not yet announced...perhaps an invitation is being called for :)
>>
>> Tricia Chirumbole
>> US: +1-571-232-0942
>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Dan Mezick via OSList
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Where is he now? When is he in Pittsburgh or Missoula? Connecticut?
>>
>> DC? And so on
>>
>> Is there an app that shows where he is now? Where he is planning
>> to be?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wow - Tricia - great BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Hairy_Audacious_Goal>). Count
>>> me in! I love that you say you're unreasonable reminds me of the
>>> George Bernard Shaw quote:
>>>
>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable
>>> one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
>>> all progress depends on the unreasonable man." Or woman!
>>>
>>> The Dalai Llama said he'd to come to my neighborhood in Montana
>>> when the Garden of 1000 Buddhas
>>> <http://www.ewambuddhagarden.org/> is finished. Maybe Montana
>>> could host?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Harold
>>>
>>>> On 10/21/14 1:33 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
>>>> Side note inspired by Harrison's comment re: introducing OS to
>>>> researchers at the Tibet Policy Institute.....
>>>>
>>>> ....I have a dream vision of holding an Open Space with the
>>>> Dalai Lama as a host, on any one of the inspiring topics that he
>>>> champions and embodies, but my favorites include: interfaith
>>>> dialogue, compassion, science & _____ fill in the blank with any
>>>> number of concepts generally held to be unscientific and/or new
>>>> age...
>>>>
>>>> I have written twice to the Dalai Lama's offices introducing
>>>> open space and offering to help them explore open space further
>>>> and to organize and facilitate an open space for them.
>>>>
>>>> I was planning on writing again soon as I am a generally
>>>> unreasonable person :) I just had to share as I am excited to
>>>> hear of other energies being placed in a similar direction.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone wants to collaborate on furthering this somewhat crazy
>>>> goal, I'm in :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tricia Chirumbole
>>>> US: +1-571-232-0942 <tel:%2B1-571-232-0942>
>>>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> http://shinsato.com
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> From: Tricia Chirumbole via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Jeff Aitken <r.jeff.aitken at gmail.com>, World wide Open Space
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> Thank you also Jeff for the valuable information! Very encouraging :)
>
> Tricia Chirumbole
> US: +1-571-232-0942
> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Two wonderful staff of the Dalai Lama Fellows organization have
>> participated in Art of Hosting trainings in the SF Bay area - and have
>> used Open Space among other methods during their Ethical Leadership
>> gatherings of college age Fellows from around the world.
>>
>> Unfortunately they have no formal affiliation with the Dalai Lama -
>> tho he has endorsed their work (the organization was inspired into
>> creation after a talk that he gave at UC Irvine.) They decline it
>> seems to consider themselves a conduit to him.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>> On 10/22/14, Dan Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>> Where is he now? When is he in Pittsburgh or Missoula? Connecticut?
>>>
>>> DC? And so on
>>>
>>> Is there an app that shows where he is now? Where he is planning to be?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 22, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Harold Shinsato via OSList
>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow - Tricia - great BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal). Count me in! I
>> love
>>>> that you say you're unreasonable reminds me of the George Bernard Shaw
>>>> quote:
>>>>
>>>> "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one
>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress
>>>> depends on the unreasonable man." Or woman!
>>>>
>>>> The Dalai Llama said he'd to come to my neighborhood in Montana when the
>>>> Garden of 1000 Buddhas is finished. Maybe Montana could host?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Harold
>>>>
>>>>> On 10/21/14 1:33 PM, Tricia Chirumbole via OSList wrote:
>>>>> Side note inspired by Harrison's comment re: introducing OS to
>>>>> researchers at the Tibet Policy Institute.....
>>>>>
>>>>> ....I have a dream vision of holding an Open Space with the Dalai Lama
>> as
>>>>> a host, on any one of the inspiring topics that he champions and
>>>>> embodies, but my favorites include: interfaith dialogue, compassion,
>>>>> science & _____ fill in the blank with any number of concepts generally
>>>>> held to be unscientific and/or new age...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have written twice to the Dalai Lama's offices introducing open space
>>>>> and offering to help them explore open space further and to organize
>> and
>>>>> facilitate an open space for them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I was planning on writing again soon as I am a generally unreasonable
>>>>> person :) I just had to share as I am excited to hear of other energies
>>>>> being placed in a similar direction.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone wants to collaborate on furthering this somewhat crazy goal,
>>>>> I'm in :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tricia Chirumbole
>>>>> US: +1-571-232-0942
>>>>> Skype: tricia.chirumbole
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> harold at shinsato.com
>>>> http://shinsato.com
>>>> twitter: @hajush
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