[OSList] OSList Digest, Vol 44, Issue 22
Anne Stadler via OSList
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Fri Oct 17 08:53:41 PDT 2014
Infrastructure in OS
Yes! Peggy. I've observed that people always build infrastructure, tacit as well as formal.
To me OS infrastructure serves flow. Flow happens when resonance within me (the participant) (what i care about/love) connects with resonance within you and innerly with the resonating meme in the transfinite field. Hence the Law of Two Feet (as i interpret it) "take responsibility (or follow) for what you care about/love." And the principles of OS remind you how to make it easy on yourself; while the minimal patterns require little interpretation because they're self evident, natural human patterns of gathering and distribution.
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> 1. Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? (John Baxter via OSList)
> 2. Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?
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> 3. Re: Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?
> (Chris Corrigan via OSList)
> 4. Re: Authority in Open Space - "All Open Space"
> (John Baxter via OSList)
> 5. Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? (Daniel Mezick via OSList)
> 6. Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? (Michael Herman via OSList)
> 7. Re: Authority in Open Space - "All Open Space"
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> From: John Baxter via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Amen to the infrastructure you talk of Peggy.
>
> I think of an OST gathering as really just a piece of infrastructure in an
> ongoing social field (an open space if you will), and it is perfectly
> reasonable to wonder whether other infrastructures can not also (or
> alternatively) serve the ongoing space - especially facilitating
> information flows.
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> *John Baxter*
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> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>> Michael,
>>
>> Yes! You captured the dynamics I've experienced with public events
>> beautifully! The call of the invitation that doesn't seem to say anything
>> specific but people say I know I need to be there.
>>
>> And the proceedings on the side of the desk. It speaks to the way I think
>> about the role of infrastructure for public events.
>>
>> To your comment:
>>
>> which makes me wonder if the work in public spaces is not so much about
>> building infrastructure, which people can easily build for themselves and
>> also already exists in many ways, but rather finding ways to point out over
>> and over again through the event that the work of participants does not end
>> with the closing.
>>
>>
>> I go back to my previous message on infrastructure in public settings.
>> Infrastructure that supports connection and makes stories visible can
>> amplify the nature energies that emerge from a public event.
>>
>>
>> Peggy
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>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Michael Herman via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> some years ago i facilitated the first illinois food security summit, a
>> public meeting of very diverse group of about 200, convened by a big
>> foundation. at the end of the event, one of the common reflections heard
>> throughout the space was something like, "i can't believe we didn't know
>> each other already (given that we're all doing such similar work/have
>> similar interests)." the following year, the two things i heard over and
>> over again were something like "i still have last year's proceedings
>> sitting on the corner of my desk" and "we're all still talking." i think
>> we have to be careful not to impose internal standards for "action" on more
>> distributed public meeting/working. having the proceedings (and its
>> priorities and plans) at their fingertips and having so many connections
>> still active was definite progress and was informing all kinds of activity.
>> there just wasn't a "center" working to score that and own it like there
>> would be inside of an organization. which makes me wonder if the work in
>> public spaces is not so much about building infrastructure, which people
>> can easily build for themselves and also already exists in many ways, but
>> rather finding ways to point out over and over again through the event that
>> the work of participants does not end with the closing.
>>
>> also, to the challenge of public invitations, we wrote 37 drafts of 6
>> different editions of the invitation to what we called "the giving
>> conference." the big challenge was that there was very little language
>> shared among the several very different groups/communities of people we
>> wanted to invite. in the end, people said, "the crazy thing is that i'm
>> here, because the invitation really didn't say ANYTHING, but when i read
>> it, i knew i had to be here."
>>
>> m
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>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:07 AM, John Baxter via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Amen to the time consuming nature of "invitations".
>>>
>>> Of course, if you don't have a discrete list with an established
>>> relationship to each member, the material nature of the activity isn't
>>> "invitation", but marketing and promotion... I haven't worked on a public
>>> event where the promotion was not the hardest part.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I?d echo Christine?s observations about infrastructure. So much of that
>>>> is something that you can take for granted in an organization and requires
>>>> some thought when dealing with public settings.
>>>>
>>>> A couple other distinctions I?ve noticed:
>>>>
>>>> Organizational events are high context. A calling question is asked
>>>> within an existing culture. That?s both a blessing and a curse. It means
>>>> that there?s much that doesn?t need explaining. And it means there are
>>>> unconscious habits of relating and behaving present. Not bad. Just the
>>>> territory.
>>>>
>>>> Examples: I was recently with a group that had an internal clock for
>>>> half an hour meetings. It was interesting watching their rhythm shift over
>>>> the course of the Open Space. For that same event, I spent about 10 minutes
>>>> with the leadership team before we started encouraging them to be
>>>> themselves and participate, like everyone else. They bring a unique and
>>>> valuable perspective, as do others. And their voices carry a weight they
>>>> might not appreciate because of their place in the hierarchy. So if they
>>>> found themselves the center of attention, I suggested that it?s a good time
>>>> to ask a question that gives the focus back to the group. Or use the law of
>>>> two feet and go elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Public events don?t have the context of an existing culture. So the
>>>> calling question may have a much wider variation in meaning to people who
>>>> come. And there may be fewer existing relationships and norms. Again, not
>>>> bad. Just different.
>>>>
>>>> Many years ago I was part of a team that did a public event with a
>>>> calling question so broad that people had multiple interpretations of it.
>>>> The question: *How do we support a movement toward the conscious
>>>> evolution of increasingly conscious social systems? *(See
>>>> http://www.thegreatstory.org/ev-salon2.html). A number of people on
>>>> this list were part of it. People showed up because they were attracted to
>>>> the hosts or something about the question spoke to them. It was wild, fun,
>>>> and creative. And there was a demand on the second day to hear from the
>>>> organizers what we meant by the question, just for more context.
>>>>
>>>> The other thing I?ve learned is that the process of invitation can be
>>>> much more intense for public events. In organizations, the bulk of
>>>> participation is internal. While there are certainly issues with ensuring a
>>>> spirit of invitation, who to invite and how to reach them is pretty
>>>> straightforward.
>>>>
>>>> For public events, I find that if you want a diversity of folks,
>>>> inviting can be the most time consuming activity of all. I did some work
>>>> with the Forest Service years ago to look at the future of the forests in
>>>> the San Bernardino Mountains in California. They were heading into a rough
>>>> fire season, felt they?d done everything they could do to prepare. While
>>>> they had the public?s attention, they wanted to look to the future, 50
>>>> years out. We worked with them to identify the range of people who cared,
>>>> including state, local, federal, and regional government, community
>>>> organizations, chamber of commerce, insurance companies (small, but
>>>> influential), ranchers who leased land in the national forests,
>>>> environmental groups, and on and on. Getting the word out to all these
>>>> folks took some thought.
>>>>
>>>> Peggy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList <
>>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Daniel and all,
>>>>
>>>> In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful
>>>> results as an in-organization OST. I?ve facilitated a number of them that
>>>> were sponsored by a group of organizations in the community. For instance, Vibrant
>>>> Phoenix <http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/>, was a very
>>>> productive economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large
>>>> municipalities and several local businesses. One of the business sponsors
>>>> agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to take their ?actionable
>>>> ideas? to the next level. However, there was no budget and no
>>>> infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas they cared the
>>>> most about.
>>>>
>>>> This is where the public open spaces generally fall short. Because the
>>>> ongoing action is not the core mission of any of these organizations, it is
>>>> hoped that the participants will self-organize going forward. With very
>>>> few exceptions, this does not happen. I believe that sponsorship for the
>>>> work after the OST is what is called for.
>>>>
>>>> The Collective Impact
>>>> <http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work> model
>>>> speaks to this. It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple way
>>>> to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining collective action. I
>>>> now include my version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors to
>>>> shine the light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss their intentions
>>>> for providing backbone support for self-organized action going forward.
>>>>
>>>> I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working
>>>> with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first small step in
>>>> collaborative action. There is so much potential!
>>>>
>>>> Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,
>>>>
>>>> Christine
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>>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
>>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Greetings To All,
>>>>
>>>> I notice that there are many big differences between
>>>> public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for
>>>> organizations.
>>>>
>>>> Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making stuff
>>>> up...
>>>>
>>>> ...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these differences as
>>>> striking. Even disturbing.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I
>>>> notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is about
>>>> a public event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is clear:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>>>
>>>> Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor
>>>>
>>>> "To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the sponsor
>>>> and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore *it is your decision
>>>> as to whether or not to proceed*...(*emphasis added.*)
>>>>
>>>> </THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role
>>>> **and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST event *inside
>>>> an organization*. For the typical public-conference event on the other
>>>> hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or Unconference....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for
>>>> creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is best
>>>> suited for use in organizations.
>>>>
>>>> It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" formats
>>>> seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the public
>>>> conference setting.
>>>>
>>>> Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp
>>>> or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in bringing
>>>> about Development and Transformation in Organizations the way Open Space
>>>> can. Something about the Sponsor?
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
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> Hello all
>
> My interest at the moment is to learn simply, who here is interested in
> pattern languages and Open Space?
>
> I introduced myself to the Facebook group by asking who is interested in
> pattern languages. It seems to be kick starting a discussion, but Artur
> Silva points out that would be better suited to OSList. So abracadabra,
> here we are!
>
> Artur referred to a (~2009) conversation on the "Foundations of OST", which
> came close to the topic without being explicit. I will explore this
> sometime soon.
>
> I personally have a long-term interest in patterns for participatory
> processes, and use patterns as a frame to extrapolate lessons from OST to
> apply in other contexts.
>
> If these things are of interest I welcome a conversation : )
>
> Cheers
>
> *John Baxter*
> *?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*
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> From: Chris Corrigan via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: John Baxter <john at jsbaxter.com.au>, World wide Open Space
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> You will find the group pattern language project interesting...
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> http://groupworksdeck.org
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> Chris
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>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:28 PM, John Baxter via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all
>>
>> My interest at the moment is to learn simply, who here is interested in pattern languages and Open Space?
>>
>> I introduced myself to the Facebook group by asking who is interested in pattern languages. It seems to be kick starting a discussion, but Artur Silva points out that would be better suited to OSList. So abracadabra, here we are!
>>
>> Artur referred to a (~2009) conversation on the "Foundations of OST", which came close to the topic without being explicit. I will explore this sometime soon.
>>
>> I personally have a long-term interest in patterns for participatory processes, and use patterns as a frame to extrapolate lessons from OST to apply in other contexts.
>>
>> If these things are of interest I welcome a conversation : )
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> John Baxter
>> ?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy
>> CoCreateADL.com? | jsbaxter.com.au
>> 0405 447 829? | ?@jsbaxter_
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> I don't think you need to be so qualified, Paul;
> 3.) All "all statements" are *positively* self limiting.
>
> But then if I gather correctly, it's all a joke anyway.
>
> So from that vantage point... what do we do now?
>
>
> *John Baxter*
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> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM, paul levy via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
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>> Of course ! It's the wonderful irony of "all" statements.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:43, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>> Including this one?
>>
>> On 10/16/14 2:15 PM, paul levy via OSList wrote:
>>
>> I'd just venture to add a third to Harrison's first two...
>>
>> 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.
>>
>> And 3. All "all statements" are possibly self-limiting
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Paul Levy
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 16 October 2014, Harrison Owen via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>
>>> John ? Thank you, Thank you for all the rich stuff! Sort of a Tidal
>>> Wave, but that?s when it gets fun, albeit a tad difficult to keep track of
>>> the sundry bits and pieces J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Picking Just One: ?But I can't get past the feeling that *there are
>>> lots of barriers to the openness of space, and to self organisation*.?
>>> Absolutely. And if we were to put that into the language of the trade
>>> (Complexity Theorists and the like) we would be talking about ?system
>>> constraints.? But as I understand it, that does not mean that Self
>>> Organization is no longer operative. And in fact the System Constraints are
>>> part and parcel of the process, a very important part. I think it goes
>>> something like this ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have found myself coming to two conclusions, or better yet
>>> observations. 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As Open Systems, we, in all permutations of our ?us-ness? ? businesses,
>>> countries, families, planets, etc) are open to, and impacted by, all other
>>> systems. Sometimes a lot, and sometimes a little, but in our cosmos there
>>> is no safe, protected place. Everything is related to everything else, and
>>> we are no exception. If true, this has a number of implications. First of
>>> all the environment in which we exist is so complex, fast moving and
>>> inter-connected we can?t even think at that level. Secondly, what you can?t
>>> even think about, you can?t control. So the notion that somebody is
>>> actually ?in charge/in control? is not just a silly idea, it is delusional.
>>> 3) System preservation/growth depends on our ability to navigate this
>>> environment. And it is a good news/bad news situation. Sometimes the
>>> impacts drive us in new and creative directions, and open up new
>>> opportunities which are ours if we respond appropriately. At other times
>>> the impacts drive us to the wall, and it?s Game over. Another word is
>>> Death. If this story is in any ways valid, it would seem like Mission
>>> Impossible. And yet this story has seemingly been going on for 13.7 Billion
>>> years and we are still here to complain about it. How could that be?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> All Systems are Self Organizing ? Self Organization is in fact the
>>> mechanism whereby we navigate the environment, and all systems do it, I
>>> think. And when they stop doing it, they disappear. Self Organization is
>>> not the product of some CEO or executive committee. After all, they really
>>> haven?t been around for all that long. Self Organization is the product of
>>> the total system in all of its aspects and bits and pieces. How all that
>>> works has been a matter of stunning discovery over the past 40 years or so.
>>> I doubt we have it all right, but I do think we may have the major elements
>>> of understanding in place. The outline goes something like this ? a) Steady
>>> State b) Chaos c) A bifurcation to either dissipation (poof) or
>>> reconstitution at new and higher levels of order. Of course you have to
>>> fill in a lot of the blanks, and there is a massive literature attempting
>>> to do just that. But I do believe we have enough to get started with some
>>> basic observations. It really is a Whole System affair, in which all
>>> elements must work together, and no element has an *a priori* claim to
>>> centrality. In a business this could mean that the dumb question of an
>>> intern could just open the doors for the future. You just don?t know. But
>>> you do know that an organization?s future directly relates to its capacity
>>> to bring total system assets to bear on emergent challenges and
>>> opportunities quickly and effectively. It is always tempting to try and
>>> ?hedge the bet? with some plan, policy or procedure, but it worthwhile
>>> noting that the tighter (more constraining) the plan, the greater the
>>> likelihood of failure. It?s not that the plan was bad... but unfortunately
>>> the challenge or opportunity came from a different direction, and all our
>>> eggs were in one basket ? the wrong one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So we have a very existential question ? How do we assure sufficient room
>>> (dare I say Space?) so that the infinite elements of any organization may
>>> quickly and effectively align to meet new challenges and opportunities ?
>>> recognizing in advance that we can never know what will be required?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Open Space Technology is just a bit player in all of this, but good old
>>> OST can be useful none the less both as a natural laboratory to explore
>>> what is going on, and also as an effective intervention to encourage the
>>> appearance of the elemental power of self organization, particularly when
>>> it seems blocked and constrained. There are no guarantees of course, and
>>> it may well be that The Organization?s time is now: Game Over. But the
>>> chances of renewal are pretty good, at least that has been my experience.
>>> And no matter what, the magic sauce is not OST ? but the power of self
>>> organization. So you could say, just as a way of speaking, ?It?s all Open
>>> Space.? But that?s just a joke, son.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Winter Address
>>>
>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>>
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>
>>> 301-365-2093
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summer Address
>>>
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>>
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>
>>> 207-763-3261
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Websites
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *John Baxter via OSList
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:57 AM
>>> *To:* Harrison Owen
>>> *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have knots about empowerment, and the ubiquitous openness of space.
>>> These knots are about to inspire a rant.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These knots, I should start with, are not entirely the result of this
>>> present discussion thread - it is just this discussion that prompts me to
>>> speak.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think I understand Harrison, if you suggest that self-organisation is
>>> more common than we realise... if not ubiquitous, omnipresent, then at
>>> least that we can fruitfully challenge the assumption that formal and
>>> top-down organisation dominates how things get done.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But I can't get past the feeling that *there are lots of barriers to the
>>> openness of space, and to self organisation*. Everywhere and all the
>>> time. In my recent work, mental barriers by all involved about authority
>>> and role relationships. My personal barriers around trying too hard to
>>> "empower". My client's patronising assumptions about the "capacity" and
>>> "maturity" of "the sector". Information asymmetries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I get really conflicted when anyone starts saying "well space is open
>>> all the time" (implication: 'so chill out cos there's nothing you need to
>>> do').
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am also conflicted about stepping back from the goal of empowerment, as
>>> if everybody else needs to just step into open space and take
>>> responsibility.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes - many people don't realise the power that they have. (In my last
>>> project; nobody seemed to quite buy into the fact that *they could
>>> directly author the document that they were trying to influence*.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But it is also patronising to suggest that empowerment lies in just
>>> helping people to see how powerful they are... because many people
>>> *don't* have the power that we or they might like. To suggest that
>>> people have the power and just don't use it... that effectively blames them
>>> for their situation, and washes our hands of responsibility.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The biggest barrier to group change I see time and time again is
>>> authority figures who believe others need to change, not themselves. (Most
>>> commonly, that their employees need to "be empowered", and that they need
>>> to manage a culture change program to get there... or better yet, that HR
>>> needs to manage the change program, while we are busy getting the real work
>>> done.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't pretend that empowerment is something that can be done to other
>>> people (patronising), but I do firmly believe that we all first need to
>>> look to ourselves and what we need to do to play our role making such a
>>> future possible. And, in fact, that *this is all that we can ever do*.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe the wisdom in what you say Harrison is that we do this by focusing
>>> on respect first, as a productive way to enable empowerment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe I am picking on the wrong things and have misunderstood them, and I
>>> apologise if I have been critical. But I also see a lot of things said
>>> that make me uncomfortable, that knot me up. Again, most of these things
>>> are from my memory, not the present discussion. While my memory might not
>>> be the best, I'm sure it is based on something.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your patience and for being in this discussion
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *John Baxter*
>>>
>>> *?**Co**?**Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*
>>>
>>> CoCreateADL.com? <http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B> |
>>> jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/>
>>>
>>> 0405 447 829
>>>
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>>>
>>> @jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> John -- I?m rather curious what you meant by ?The overall project was
>>> more complicated than OST?? My confusion comes in part from my experience
>>> that complexity is actually an essential precondition for OST, or more
>>> exactly the effective operation of self organization. The essential
>>> pre-conditions as I have experienced the are: A Real business issue
>>> (something that people really care about). High levels of complexity such
>>> that no single person or group has a prayer of figuring it out. High levels
>>> of diversity in terms of people and points of view. Lots of passion and
>>> conflict. And a decision time of yesterday (urgency). Given these 5
>>> conditions, self organization in the more formal setting of OST or as a
>>> natural occurrence just seems to happen... unless...And this may be the
>>> point of problem... It is arbitrarily constrained... which usually means
>>> that somebody already has the plan/program/design and they are just looking
>>> for buy-in or (worst case) they are simply trying to sugar coat the pill,
>>> and make it seem like the folks are creating something, when in fact the
>>> cake is already baked.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A clue to the dilemma may be in the phrase, ?I struggled to help the
>>> client (the funding body) to really 'empower'...? I know we talk a lot
>>> about empowerment, but I have come to the conclusion that it is really a
>>> red herring, and most painfully so in those situations where you actually
>>> try to do it. Sounds odd, I guess, but think about it. If I empower
>>> you...you are in my power. And the more I try to empower you the worse it
>>> gets. Real empowerment, in my book, is not an act that we (or somebody) do,
>>> but an acknowledgement of a pre-existing condition...you are powerful. Of
>>> course I might encourage you a bit to be as powerful as you are, but it is
>>> not something I can give you. You must claim it for yourself. Strange as it
>>> may seem, I find the notion of ?empowerment? to be just the opposite of
>>> that fundament of effective working relationships (or any relationship)
>>> RESPECT. And I suspect that it is precisely here that the fickle finger of
>>> fate is pointing to the critical issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Another word that fits in here for me is ?Patronizing.? Everything may
>>> sound super nice, and all the proper and correct words may be spoken, but
>>> if the implication is that the folks (participants) really do not have the
>>> competence or ability to deal with the issues, it is fairly predictable
>>> that they will not bother to try. Or if they ?try? it will be pretty much
>>> of a pro forma situation. Sound familiar?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Winter Address
>>>
>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>>
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>
>>> 301-365-2093
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summer Address
>>>
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>>
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>
>>> 207-763-3261
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Websites
>>>
>>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *John Baxter via OSList
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 2:41 AM
>>> *To:* Daniel Mezick
>>> *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Daniel. Thanks for your considered response.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I will try to keep my response in line with the topic.... but expect it
>>> may meander.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The OST day I was preparing for has since come and gone.
>>>
>>> I decided in the end to least give OST a crack and see what happened.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It didn't go very well; but it also went well enough (vis overall project
>>> goals, and client expectations), so I don't feel so bad about it... even if
>>> I had personally envisaged more.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am not one to worry about the cannon... which means sometimes I break
>>> things, as I did this time. There was still an (informal) sponsor, the one
>>> that sent the invites. They just did not have a presence on the day.
>>> Thank you Daniel as you did make me think critically about the strength of
>>> my role as host. I think I dealt with that through my introduction to the
>>> day; and as it turns out the authority to host was not an issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But as it turns out, that was not really the biggest challenge!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The main lessons I took away about what contributed to the average result:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *There needs to be clear, compelling shared work.*
>>>
>>> The overall project was more complicated than OST, so it wasn't clear
>>> what turning up actually meant, and I think many did not turn up on the
>>> basis of wanting to resolve a shared challenge (the work), as you might
>>> expect for OST. In straight OST terms, you could say this was an issue of
>>> invitation, but really it was many things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So the group was interesting. They had the heart, but not the will.
>>> They were committed, but without ownership of the result. I've seen this a
>>> lot in the community engagement field, but nowhere that I have used (or
>>> seen) OST.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I thought about this a lot, I thought it might have been about the
>>> invitation and self-selection; but at the end of the day I think it comes
>>> down to the sense of (and invitation in to) shared work.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *It is super hard to dissolve ingrained power and authority relationships
>>> in the short term. These can't be sidestepped by an external facilitator.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I struggled to help the client (the funding body) to really 'empower'.
>>> They talked about it and genuinely want to, but old habits and mental
>>> models don't change overnight. They really struggled to push beyond
>>> managing the process as superiours (to a set of subordinate participants).
>>> This is 'empowerment' within a patriarchal system, and it doesn't work. It
>>> felt very yucky at times.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A curious side effect of this partriarchal 'empowerment' was an
>>> unwillingness to be clear about the work ("we want to be open and let them
>>> lead the process" they would say... I got the client to agree that *the*y were
>>> clearly the leaders, but we didn't quite work out how to put that into
>>> practice).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Over the course of the engagement, we all took baby steps together that
>>> invest in their (/our) capacity to really work together in future. They
>>> learned a LOT in a short period of time, and so did I, but it was too
>>> short. By the end of the project I had the client calling me up to ask how
>>> they could reword things so they didn't reflect a control response. : )
>>> That was good, but obviously if they need me for this then there is some
>>> way to go. And different client reps had different levels of self
>>> reflection.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hosting an isolated OST workshop against this grain was very ambitious,
>>> it was always going to be, no matter how we conducted ourselves.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And perhaps 20% were very proactive, and led the bulk of the work that
>>> occurred... they saved the day!
>>>
>>> But the length of the OST was not enough for this leadership to really be
>>> contagious and precipitate a productive culture.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Or in other words: we struggled to free up authorisation to be more
>>> dynamic*
>>>
>>> Reading your blog post Daniel, the idea of dynamic authorisation would
>>> have been very useful earlier in the project. Another way of looking at
>>> the project: we struggled to free the space of ingrained authority to
>>> enable dynamic authorisation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There were lots of other insights into how we could have done it
>>> differently, but to me these were the fundamental stumbling blocks for us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Still, they were not too big, and I'm pleased we made a good start.
>>>
>>> My favourite feedback was "thank you, this was the first time I have been
>>> part of genuine engagement in more than a decade in the sector" : )
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Next time, we will do better.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *John Baxter*
>>>
>>> *?**Co**?**Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*
>>>
>>> CoCreateADL.com? <http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B> |
>>> jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/>
>>>
>>> 0405 447 829 <0405%20447%20829>
>>>
>>> ? | ?
>>>
>>> @jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> Yours is a very interesting story.
>>>
>>> You say:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *"...To be honest I am not sure how I need to deal with this, though my
>>> strategy is to accept the authority for hosting the space in the next
>>> workshop, obsolving the department of their responsibility to manage the
>>> day." "...I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority candidates
>>> hosting something genuinely participatory. The relevant director has said
>>> she doesn't want to speak formally and become The Authority for the day, a
>>> position I agree with."*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In the situation as described, it sounds like the org is the very
>>> earliest stages of moving in a direction of more
>>> open/participatory/inviting.
>>>
>>> Do you agree with this assessment?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If this assessment is correct, based on what you describe, I would
>>> probably avoid attempting Open Space in the canonical form whatsoever (as
>>> described in the OST GUIDE) because the Sponsor role is vacant.
>>> Unoccupied. And so, by my reckoning, if I understand you right, a true Open
>>> Space event isn't even possible, because the essential OST-Sponsor-role is
>>> in fact not willingly occupied by anyone with enough authority to play that
>>> essential role well.
>>>
>>> What's clear is that someone who could function as OST-Sponsor is
>>> currently unwilling to do so. And so I might try a "taster" or "demo" event
>>> instead, where the goal is to *learn about Open Space in general*, and
>>> do a *little* bit of "real" work too. Especially if the allotted time a
>>> mere 1/2 day, I am even more inclined to strongly favor this re-framing of
>>> the stated goals.
>>>
>>> So the primary and stated goal for the "taster" is learning about OST.
>>> Another goal for a short event might be to see who shows up
>>> super-interested in the art of Facilitation, and then offer to mentor those
>>> who do self-select by showing interest. In this manner some Facilitation
>>> capacity is developed inside the org, to help with current meetings and
>>> processes. Introducing Facilitation into typical meetings is a easy and
>>> effective "culture hack".
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For me, the total unwillingness of an obvious candidate to occupy the
>>> Sponsor role is a huge warning signal to slow down, pause, or even stop.
>>>
>>> Lots of people here have more experience than me, and might be willing to
>>> lend you some of their expertise regarding the authority dynamics of
>>> Facilitating an OST event with the essential OST-Sponsor-role completely
>>> vacant
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/28/14 11:30 PM, John Baxter wrote:
>>>
>>> I am navigating some challenging authority dynamics in a project at the
>>> moment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was brought in a week out from the first of three forums, and asked to
>>> 'facilitate a codesign process' which was at that stage a black box (with
>>> many hidden expectations) scheduled into that event (1 hour before lunch
>>> and 1 hour afterwards).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a long journey, but you can imagine how my role has changed as I
>>> prepare for the third forum which I am hosting in Open Space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The overall process is an engagement between a government department and
>>> their funded agencies. The most obvious direct power dynamics are obvious,
>>> the effective power and authority dynamics are much more complex (though
>>> predictable).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Department staff have authority challenges as much as the agencies. They
>>> are trying so hard to be 'neutral' and 'non controlling' that they are
>>> effectively reinforcing their own authority positions (which often have
>>> little real correlation to the power, knowledge etc that they imagine them
>>> to).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> To be honest I am not sure how I need to deal with this, though my
>>> strategy is to accept the authority for hosting the space in the next
>>> workshop, obsolving the department of their responsibility to manage the
>>> day.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It has been interesting to watch push back so far from agency reps who
>>> are committed to participating, who are genuinely engaged, but are playing
>>> to an us-them tension that is getting in the way of the shared work (and
>>> serves them no good ends except protecting them from their own
>>> responsibility). Stand-offishness is gradually being resolved, though some
>>> pockets are holding firm.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am crossing my fingers for WS3 that we can traverse these and get into
>>> Open Space without being pushed off the bridge by the reactionary tension;
>>> and that once on the other side, the department reps can embrace Open Space
>>> and take responsibility for their role.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We will get across *as long as I have the authority* to host the space
>>> for them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority candidates hosting
>>> something genuinely participatory. The relevant director has said she
>>> doesn't want to speak formally and become The Authority for the day, a
>>> position I agree with.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But it does leave something of a shell, where I am crossing my fingers
>>> that our time together thus far affords me the authority to host that space.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think we are ready. I am bringing my harness and floaties just in case.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *John Baxter*
>>>
>>> *? Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*
>>>
>>> CoCreateADL.com ? <http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B> |
>>> jsbaxter.com.au <http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/>
>>>
>>> 0405 447 829
>>>
>>> ? | ?
>>>
>>> @jsbaxter_ <http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
>>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Harrison,
>>>
>>> So interesting how the Law of 2 Feet authorizes me, and every other
>>> member of an OST event, to go anywhere we may want to go.
>>>
>>> Without asking anyone else for any kind of "permission"...
>>>
>>>
>>> Reminds me of this past June, being in Camden with you, and Ethelyn, and
>>> Harold, and friends... when we were standing on the porch of that Camden
>>> restaurant... waiting for everyone to arrive, and assemble for dinner...
>>>
>>> And as we wait, I notice there is this convenient-looking, alternate
>>> entry-door... into the dining area.
>>>
>>> And I say: "Hmm...I wonder if we are authorized to use that door."
>>>
>>> And you say:
>>>
>>> "We're authorized to go Anywhere we want to go."
>>>
>>> ...and I like that.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> Picture of that place:
>>> https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161
>>> See also:
>>> https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360
>>>
>>>
>>> <mime-attachment.png>
>>>
>>> On 9/25/14 4:58 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:
>>>
>>> Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language comes from a place
>>> I don?t know... which is to say that I probably wouldn?t say what you say
>>> in the way that you do (duh). BUT when I run my ?translator? it comes out
>>> sounding pretty good! So... I can?t help with the questions you have
>>> raised. Actually I think you are doing pretty well on your own, and
>>> (hopefully) will incite others to a similarly riotous performance. Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Harrison
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Winter Address
>>>
>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>>
>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>
>>> 301-365-2093
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Summer Address
>>>
>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>>
>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>
>>> 207-763-3261
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Websites
>>>
>>> www.openspaceworld.com <http://%20www.openspaceworld.com>
>>>
>>> www.ho-image.com
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 AM
>>> *To:* oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> *Subject:* [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greetings to All,
>>>
>>> For the past several years I have attended conferences of the Group
>>> Relations community, and encouraged others to do the same. I've studied
>>> their literature, and harvested some important learning as a result. One of
>>> the things I have come to understand a little bit better is the role of
>>> "authority dynamics" in self-organizing social systems.
>>>
>>> Link:
>>> www.akriceinstitute.org
>>>
>>> Over the past several years I've been using Open Space with intent to
>>> improve the results of my work in helping companies implement Agile ideas
>>> in their organizations. We do an initial Open Space, then the folks get
>>> about 3 months to play with Agile (we carefully use the word
>>> "experimentation" with management,) then we do another Open Space after
>>> that, to inspect what just happened across the enterprise. The initial and
>>> subsequent Open Space events form a "safe" container or field in which the
>>> members can *learn*... as they explore how to *improve* together by
>>> *experimenting* with new practices, and see if they actually work. I
>>> call the process Open Agile Adoption.
>>>
>>> Link:
>>> OpenAgileAdoption.com
>>>
>>> This seems to work pretty good. It seems to "take the air out of" most of
>>> the fear, most of the anxiety and most of the worry that is created. The
>>> key aspect is *consent*: absolutely no one is forced to do anything they
>>> are unwilling to do. No one is *coerced* to *comply*. Everyone is
>>> instead respectfully *invited* to help *write* the story, and be a
>>> *character* in the story...of the contemplated process change. Open
>>> Agile Adoption encourages a spirit of experimentation and play.
>>>
>>> The spirit of Open Space is the spirit of freedom. Isn't it? In the OST
>>> community, we discuss and talk a lot about self-organization,
>>> self-management and self-governance. The Agile community also talks about
>>> these ideas a lot.
>>>
>>> So I have some questions. What is really going on during
>>> self-organization in a social system? What are the steps? What information
>>> is being sent and received? >From whom, and by whom? Is the information
>>> about *authority* important? How important? Can a social system self
>>> organize without regard to who has the right to do what work? *How do
>>> decisions that affect others get made in a self-organizing system?*
>>>
>>> Who decides about *who decides*? How important is the process of
>>> *authorization* in a self-organizing system? Is self-organization in
>>> large part the process of dynamic authorization (and *de-authorization*)
>>> in real time?
>>>
>>> What *is *authorization? Can self-organization occur without the sending
>>> and receiving of authorization data by and between the members?
>>>
>>> Is Bruce Tuckman's forming/storming/performing/adjourning actually
>>> decomposing the *dynamics of authorization* inside a social system?
>>>
>>> The essay below attempts to answer some of these difficult questions. I'd
>>> love your thoughts on it. Will you give it a look?
>>>
>>>
>>> Essay: Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>> http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>>
>>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>
>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>>
>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>>
>>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the
>>> Agile Manager.
>>>
>>> Explore Agile Team Training
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>>
>>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>
>>> Community.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>>
>>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>
>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>>
>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>>
>>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the
>>> Agile Manager.
>>>
>>> Explore Agile Team Training
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>>
>>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>
>>> Community.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> OSList mailing list
>>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>>
>>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>
>>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>>
>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>>
>>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the
>>> Agile Manager.
>>>
>>> Explore Agile Team Training
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>>
>>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/>
>>> Community.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> --
>>
>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>
>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>
>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>
>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>
>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile
>> Manager.
>>
>> Explore Agile Team Training
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>
>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>
>> Community.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:31:56 -0400
> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Christine Whitney Sanchez <christine at innovationpartners.com>,
> World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?
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> Greetings Christine,
>
> Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience
> whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds,
> industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless!
>
> As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about those use
> cases. I do have some theories however, and I hope I can ask some
> questions about OST for guilds & industry associations...
>
> I see it like this:
>
> (1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very private,
> business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family system.
>
> (2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public conference that
> anyone can attend, if they pay the money...
>
> * It is an event that has some Open Space of varying quality, in
> 1/2 day, full day or multiple day formats.
> * It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not have
> Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on the wall. If it
> has Proceedings at all, they are often late.
> * "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end of the range.
>
>
> My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds, industry
> associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of these two
> extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how these events take
> on the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the very private,
> business-org-specific event. They might even effectively BE private
> events. It's not like anyone with the fee (if any) can just waltz into
> the meeting right?
>
>
> And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events aside,
> and/or characterize them as private events. Is that OK?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very huge
> differences between these two ways to use Open Space.
>
> Like, the difference between Night and Day.
>
>
> Here's one of those very striking differences: in public-conference
> events where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or full day formats, getting good
> Proceedings is difficult. Or impossible. The Proceedings are typically
> late and poorly formatted, or more commonly: /non-existent./
>
> Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task of
> Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a magnet. They
> typically wave off any offers of help and take an absolutely huge
> interest in the Proceedings generation. They rivet on it.
>
>
>
> And this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences. And
> so I continue to assert that for public-conference events where OST is a
> full day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can and does get
> equivalent, similar, as-good results.
>
> Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what Open
> Space does for organizations. And that's because Open Space is optimized
> for enabling "development and transformation in organizations. "
>
> And those other two aren't.
>
>
> Daniel
>
> PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature all-day
> Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this is clearly the
> exception, and not the rule where Agile conferences are concerned.
>
>
>
>
>> On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
>> Daniel and all,
>>
>> In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful
>> results as an in-organization OST. I?ve facilitated a number of them
>> that were sponsored by a group of organizations in the community. For
>> instance, Vibrant Phoenix
>> <http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/>, was a very productive
>> economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large
>> municipalities and several local businesses. One of the business
>> sponsors agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to take their
>> ?actionable ideas? to the next level. However, there was no budget
>> and no infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas
>> they cared the most about.
>>
>> This is where the public open spaces generally fall short. Because
>> the ongoing action is not the core mission of any of these
>> organizations, it is hoped that the participants will self-organize
>> going forward. With very few exceptions, this does not happen. I
>> believe that sponsorship for the work after the OST is what is called for.
>>
>> The Collective Impact
>> <http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work> model
>> speaks to this. It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple
>> way to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining collective
>> action. I now include my version of this model when I talk with
>> potential sponsors to shine the light beyond the meeting so that we
>> can discuss their intentions for providing backbone support for
>> self-organized action going forward.
>>
>> I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working
>> with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first small step in
>> collaborative action. There is so much potential!
>>
>> Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,
>>
>> Christine
>>
>> Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.
>> Phoenix,AZ, USA ?+1.480.759.0262
>> www.innovationpartners.com <http://www.innovationpartners.com>
>>
>> Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez> | LinkedIn
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez> |Twitter
>> <https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings To All,
>>
>> I notice that there are many big differences between
>> public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for
>> organizations.
>>
>> Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making
>> stuff up...
>>
>> ...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these differences
>> as striking. Even disturbing.
>>
>>
>>
>> And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I
>> notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is
>> about a public event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is
>> clear:
>>
>>
>> <THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>
>> Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor
>>
>> "To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the
>> sponsor and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore */it is your
>> decision as to whether or not to proceed/*...(/emphasis added./)
>>
>> </THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>
>>
>>
>> My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role
>> **and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST
>> event /inside an organization/. For the typical public-conference
>> event on the other hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a
>> Barcamp or Unconference....
>>
>>
>> Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for
>> creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is best
>> suited for use in organizations.
>>
>> It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference"
>> formats seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the
>> public conference setting.
>>
>> Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp
>> or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in
>> bringing about Development and Transformation in Organizations the way
>> Open Space can. Something about the Sponsor?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>
>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>
>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>
>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>
>> Examine my new book:The Culture Game
>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the
>> Agile Manager.
>>
>> Explore Agile Team Training
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>
>> Explore the Agile Boston
>> <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org>
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>
> --
>
> Daniel Mezick, President
>
> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>
> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>
> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>
> Examine my new book:The Culture Game
> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the
> Agile Manager.
>
> Explore Agile Team Training
> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>
> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>Community.
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 09:15:42 -0500
> From: Michael Herman via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> To: Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>, World wide Open Space
> Technology email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?
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>
> Not sure the differences you articulate have anything to do with public and
> private, Daniel. It's about the different structures. I've seen very loose
> corporate add-on events and very productive and long-lived action (spanning
> years and continents) come from open public conferences. So id say
> structure matters much more than setting.
>
>
> On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>
>> Greetings Christine,
>>
>> Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience
>> whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds,
>> industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless!
>>
>> As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about those use
>> cases. I do have some theories however, and I hope I can ask some questions
>> about OST for guilds & industry associations...
>>
>> I see it like this:
>>
>> (1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very private,
>> business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family system.
>>
>> (2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public conference that
>> anyone can attend, if they pay the money...
>>
>> - It is an event that has some Open Space of varying quality, in 1/2
>> day, full day or multiple day formats.
>> - It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not have
>> Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on the wall. If it has
>> Proceedings at all, they are often late.
>> - "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end of the
>> range.
>>
>>
>> My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds, industry
>> associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of these two
>> extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how these events take on
>> the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the very private,
>> business-org-specific event. They might even effectively BE private events.
>> It's not like anyone with the fee (if any) can just waltz into the meeting
>> right?
>>
>>
>> And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events aside, and/or
>> characterize them as private events. Is that OK?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very huge
>> differences between these two ways to use Open Space.
>>
>> Like, the difference between Night and Day.
>>
>>
>> Here's one of those very striking differences: in public-conference events
>> where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or full day formats, getting good Proceedings
>> is difficult. Or impossible. The Proceedings are typically late and poorly
>> formatted, or more commonly: *non-existent.*
>>
>> Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task of
>> Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a magnet. They typically
>> wave off any offers of help and take an absolutely huge interest in the
>> Proceedings generation. They rivet on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> And this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences. And so
>> I continue to assert that for public-conference events where OST is a full
>> day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can and does get
>> equivalent, similar, as-good results.
>>
>> Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what Open
>> Space does for organizations. And that's because Open Space is optimized
>> for enabling "development and transformation in organizations. "
>>
>> And those other two aren't.
>>
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature all-day
>> Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this is clearly the
>> exception, and not the rule where Agile conferences are concerned.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:
>>
>> Daniel and all,
>>
>> In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful
>> results as an in-organization OST. I?ve facilitated a number of them that
>> were sponsored by a group of organizations in the community. For instance, Vibrant
>> Phoenix <http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/>, was a very
>> productive economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large
>> municipalities and several local businesses. One of the business sponsors
>> agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to take their ?actionable
>> ideas? to the next level. However, there was no budget and no
>> infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas they cared the
>> most about.
>>
>> This is where the public open spaces generally fall short. Because the
>> ongoing action is not the core mission of any of these organizations, it is
>> hoped that the participants will self-organize going forward. With very
>> few exceptions, this does not happen. I believe that sponsorship for the
>> work after the OST is what is called for.
>>
>> The Collective Impact
>> <http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work> model
>> speaks to this. It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple way
>> to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining collective action. I
>> now include my version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors to
>> shine the light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss their intentions
>> for providing backbone support for self-organized action going forward.
>>
>> I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working
>> with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first small step in
>> collaborative action. There is so much potential!
>>
>> Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,
>>
>> Christine
>>
>> Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.
>> Phoenix, AZ, USA ? +1.480.759.0262
>> www.innovationpartners.com
>>
>> Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez> | LinkedIn
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez> | Twitter
>> <https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <
>> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','oslist at lists.openspacetech.org');>> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings To All,
>>
>> I notice that there are many big differences between
>> public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for
>> organizations.
>>
>> Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making stuff
>> up...
>>
>> ...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these differences as
>> striking. Even disturbing.
>>
>>
>>
>> And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I
>> notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is about
>> a public event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is clear:
>>
>>
>> <THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>
>> Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor
>>
>> "To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the sponsor
>> and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore *it is your decision as
>> to whether or not to proceed*...(*emphasis added.*)
>>
>> </THE GUIDE PAGE 18>
>>
>>
>>
>> My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role
>> **and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST event *inside
>> an organization*. For the typical public-conference event on the other
>> hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or Unconference....
>>
>>
>> Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for
>> creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is best
>> suited for use in organizations.
>>
>> It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" formats
>> seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the public
>> conference setting.
>>
>> Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp or
>> Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in bringing about
>> Development and Transformation in Organizations the way Open Space can.
>> Something about the Sponsor?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>
>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>
>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>
>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>
>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile
>> Manager.
>>
>> Explore Agile Team Training
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>
>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>
>> Community.
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList at lists.openspacetech.org');>
>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org');>
>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>
>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>
>> (203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>
>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>
>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for the Agile
>> Manager.
>>
>> Explore Agile Team Training
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and Coaching.
>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/>
>>
>> Explore the Agile Boston <http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/>
>> Community.
>
>
> --
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
>
> http://MichaelHerman.com
> http://OpenSpaceWorld.org
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 11:10:06 -0400
> From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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>> On 10/17/14 7:01 AM, John Baxter wrote:
>> I don't think you need to be so qualified, Paul;
>> 3.) All "all statements" are /positively/ self limiting.
>>
>> But then if I gather correctly, it's all a joke anyway.
>>
>> So from that vantage point... what do we do now?
>>
>>
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>> On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM, paul levy via OSList
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Of course ! It's the wonderful irony of "all" statements.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:43, Daniel Mezick via OSList
>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> Including this one?
>>>
>>>> On 10/16/14 2:15 PM, paul levy via OSList wrote:
>>>> I'd just venture to add a third to Harrison's first two...
>>>>
>>>> 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.
>>>>
>>>> And 3. All "all statements" are possibly self-limiting
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Paul Levy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, 16 October 2014, Harrison Owen via OSList
>>>> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>> <mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John ? Thank you, Thank you for all the rich stuff! Sort of
>>>> a Tidal Wave, but that?s when it gets fun, albeit a tad
>>>> difficult to keep track of the sundry bits and pieces J
>>>>
>>>> Picking Just One: ?But I can't get past the feeling that
>>>> /there are lots of barriers to the openness of space, and to
>>>> self organisation/.? Absolutely. And if we were to put that
>>>> into the language of the trade (Complexity Theorists and the
>>>> like) we would be talking about ?system constraints.? But as
>>>> I understand it, that does not mean that Self Organization
>>>> is no longer operative. And in fact the System Constraints
>>>> are part and parcel of the process, a very important part. I
>>>> think it goes something like this ?
>>>>
>>>> I have found myself coming to two conclusions, or better
>>>> yet observations. 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems
>>>> are self organizing.
>>>>
>>>> As Open Systems, we, in all permutations of our ?us-ness? ?
>>>> businesses, countries, families, planets, etc) are open to,
>>>> and impacted by, all other systems. Sometimes a lot, and
>>>> sometimes a little, but in our cosmos there is no safe,
>>>> protected place. Everything is related to everything else,
>>>> and we are no exception. If true, this has a number of
>>>> implications. First of all the environment in which we exist
>>>> is so complex, fast moving and inter-connected we can?t even
>>>> think at that level. Secondly, what you can?t even think
>>>> about, you can?t control. So the notion that somebody is
>>>> actually ?in charge/in control? is not just a silly idea, it
>>>> is delusional. 3) System preservation/growth depends on our
>>>> ability to navigate this environment. And it is a good
>>>> news/bad news situation. Sometimes the impacts drive us in
>>>> new and creative directions, and open up new opportunities
>>>> which are ours if we respond appropriately. At other times
>>>> the impacts drive us to the wall, and it?s Game over.
>>>> Another word is Death. If this story is in any ways valid,
>>>> it would seem like Mission Impossible. And yet this story
>>>> has seemingly been going on for 13.7 Billion years and we
>>>> are still here to complain about it. How could that be?
>>>>
>>>> All Systems are Self Organizing ? Self Organization is in
>>>> fact the mechanism whereby we navigate the environment, and
>>>> all systems do it, I think. And when they stop doing it,
>>>> they disappear. Self Organization is not the product of some
>>>> CEO or executive committee. After all, they really haven?t
>>>> been around for all that long. Self Organization is the
>>>> product of the total system in all of its aspects and bits
>>>> and pieces. How all that works has been a matter of stunning
>>>> discovery over the past 40 years or so. I doubt we have it
>>>> all right, but I do think we may have the major elements of
>>>> understanding in place. The outline goes something like this
>>>> ? a) Steady State b) Chaos c) A bifurcation to either
>>>> dissipation (poof) or reconstitution at new and higher
>>>> levels of order. Of course you have to fill in a lot of the
>>>> blanks, and there is a massive literature attempting to do
>>>> just that. But I do believe we have enough to get started
>>>> with some basic observations. It really is a Whole System
>>>> affair, in which all elements must work together, and no
>>>> element has an /a priori/ claim to centrality. In a business
>>>> this could mean that the dumb question of an intern could
>>>> just open the doors for the future. You just don?t know. But
>>>> you do know that an organization?s future directly relates
>>>> to its capacity to bring total system assets to bear on
>>>> emergent challenges and opportunities quickly and
>>>> effectively. It is always tempting to try and ?hedge the
>>>> bet? with some plan, policy or procedure, but it worthwhile
>>>> noting that the tighter (more constraining) the plan, the
>>>> greater the likelihood of failure. It?s not that the plan
>>>> was bad... but unfortunately the challenge or opportunity
>>>> came from a different direction, and all our eggs were in
>>>> one basket ? the wrong one.
>>>>
>>>> So we have a very existential question ? How do we assure
>>>> sufficient room (dare I say Space?) so that the infinite
>>>> elements of any organization may quickly and effectively
>>>> align to meet new challenges and opportunities ? recognizing
>>>> in advance that we can never know what will be required?
>>>>
>>>> Open Space Technology is just a bit player in all of this,
>>>> but good old OST can be useful none the less both as a
>>>> natural laboratory to explore what is going on, and also as
>>>> an effective intervention to encourage the appearance of the
>>>> elemental power of self organization, particularly when it
>>>> seems blocked and constrained. There are no guarantees of
>>>> course, and it may well be that The Organization?s time is
>>>> now: Game Over. But the chances of renewal are pretty good,
>>>> at least that has been my experience. And no matter what,
>>>> the magic sauce is not OST ? but the power of self
>>>> organization. So you could say, just as a way of speaking,
>>>> ?It?s all Open Space.? But that?s just a joke, son.
>>>>
>>>> Harrison
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> *From:*OSList
>>>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
>>>> Of *John Baxter via OSList
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 16, 2014 2:57 AM
>>>> *To:* Harrison Owen
>>>> *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>>
>>>> I have knots about empowerment, and the ubiquitous openness
>>>> of space. These knots are about to inspire a rant.
>>>>
>>>> These knots, I should start with, are not entirely the
>>>> result of this present discussion thread - it is just this
>>>> discussion that prompts me to speak.
>>>>
>>>> I think I understand Harrison, if you suggest that
>>>> self-organisation is more common than we realise... if not
>>>> ubiquitous, omnipresent, then at least that we can
>>>> fruitfully challenge the assumption that formal and top-down
>>>> organisation dominates how things get done.
>>>>
>>>> But I can't get past the feeling that /there are lots of
>>>> barriers to the openness of space, and to self
>>>> organisation/. Everywhere and all the time. In my recent
>>>> work, mental barriers by all involved about authority and
>>>> role relationships. My personal barriers around trying too
>>>> hard to "empower". My client's patronising assumptions
>>>> about the "capacity" and "maturity" of "the sector".
>>>> Information asymmetries.
>>>>
>>>> So I get really conflicted when anyone starts saying "well
>>>> space is open all the time" (implication: 'so chill out cos
>>>> there's nothing you need to do').
>>>>
>>>> I am also conflicted about stepping back from the goal of
>>>> empowerment, as if everybody else needs to just step into
>>>> open space and take responsibility.
>>>>
>>>> Yes - many people don't realise the power that they have.
>>>> (In my last project; nobody seemed to quite buy into the
>>>> fact that /they could directly author the document that they
>>>> were trying to influence/.)
>>>>
>>>> But it is also patronising to suggest that empowerment lies
>>>> in just helping people to see how powerful they are...
>>>> because many people /don't/ have the power that we or they
>>>> might like. To suggest that people have the power and just
>>>> don't use it... that effectively blames them for their
>>>> situation, and washes our hands of responsibility.
>>>>
>>>> The biggest barrier to group change I see time and time
>>>> again is authority figures who believe others need to
>>>> change, not themselves. (Most commonly, that their
>>>> employees need to "be empowered", and that they need to
>>>> manage a culture change program to get there... or better
>>>> yet, that HR needs to manage the change program, while we
>>>> are busy getting the real work done.)
>>>>
>>>> I don't pretend that empowerment is something that can be
>>>> done to other people (patronising), but I do firmly believe
>>>> that we all first need to look to ourselves and what we need
>>>> to do to play our role making such a future possible. And,
>>>> in fact, that /this is all that we can ever do/.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe the wisdom in what you say Harrison is that we do this
>>>> by focusing on respect first, as a productive way to enable
>>>> empowerment.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I am picking on the wrong things and have
>>>> misunderstood them, and I apologise if I have been
>>>> critical. But I also see a lot of things said that make me
>>>> uncomfortable, that knot me up. Again, most of these things
>>>> are from my memory, not the present discussion. While my
>>>> memory might not be the best, I'm sure it is based on something.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all for your patience and for being in this discussion
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> */John Baxter/*
>>>>
>>>> /?//Co//?//Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of
>>>> Realise consultancy/
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>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Harrison Owen
>>>> <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> John -- I?m rather curious what you meant by ?The overall
>>>> project was more complicated than OST?? My confusion comes
>>>> in part from my experience that complexity is actually an
>>>> essential precondition for OST, or more exactly the
>>>> effective operation of self organization. The essential
>>>> pre-conditions as I have experienced the are: A Real
>>>> business issue (something that people really care about).
>>>> High levels of complexity such that no single person or
>>>> group has a prayer of figuring it out. High levels of
>>>> diversity in terms of people and points of view. Lots of
>>>> passion and conflict. And a decision time of yesterday
>>>> (urgency). Given these 5 conditions, self organization in
>>>> the more formal setting of OST or as a natural occurrence
>>>> just seems to happen... unless...And this may be the point
>>>> of problem... It is arbitrarily constrained... which usually
>>>> means that somebody already has the plan/program/design and
>>>> they are just looking for buy-in or (worst case) they are
>>>> simply trying to sugar coat the pill, and make it seem like
>>>> the folks are creating something, when in fact the cake is
>>>> already baked.
>>>>
>>>> A clue to the dilemma may be in the phrase, ?I struggled to
>>>> help the client (the funding body) to really 'empower'...? I
>>>> know we talk a lot about empowerment, but I have come to the
>>>> conclusion that it is really a red herring, and most
>>>> painfully so in those situations where you actually try to
>>>> do it. Sounds odd, I guess, but think about it. If I empower
>>>> you...you are in my power. And the more I try to empower you
>>>> the worse it gets. Real empowerment, in my book, is not an
>>>> act that we (or somebody) do, but an acknowledgement of a
>>>> pre-existing condition...you are powerful. Of course I might
>>>> encourage you a bit to be as powerful as you are, but it is
>>>> not something I can give you. You must claim it for
>>>> yourself. Strange as it may seem, I find the notion of
>>>> ?empowerment? to be just the opposite of that fundament of
>>>> effective working relationships (or any relationship)
>>>> RESPECT. And I suspect that it is precisely here that the
>>>> fickle finger of fate is pointing to the critical issue.
>>>>
>>>> Another word that fits in here for me is ?Patronizing.?
>>>> Everything may sound super nice, and all the proper and
>>>> correct words may be spoken, but if the implication is that
>>>> the folks (participants) really do not have the competence
>>>> or ability to deal with the issues, it is fairly predictable
>>>> that they will not bother to try. Or if they ?try? it will
>>>> be pretty much of a pro forma situation. Sound familiar?
>>>>
>>>> Harrison
>>>>
>>>> Winter Address
>>>>
>>>> 7808 River Falls Drive
>>>>
>>>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>>>
>>>> 301-365-2093 <tel:301-365-2093>
>>>>
>>>> Summer Address
>>>>
>>>> 189 Beaucaire Ave.
>>>>
>>>> Camden, ME 04843
>>>>
>>>> 207-763-3261 <tel:207-763-3261>
>>>>
>>>> Websites
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> *From:*OSList
>>>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf
>>>> Of *John Baxter via OSList
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 2:41 AM
>>>> *To:* Daniel Mezick
>>>> *Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>>
>>>> Hi Daniel. Thanks for your considered response.
>>>>
>>>> I will try to keep my response in line with the topic....
>>>> but expect it may meander.
>>>>
>>>> The OST day I was preparing for has since come and gone.
>>>>
>>>> I decided in the end to least give OST a crack and see what
>>>> happened.
>>>>
>>>> It didn't go very well; but it also went well enough (vis
>>>> overall project goals, and client expectations), so I don't
>>>> feel so bad about it... even if I had personally envisaged more.
>>>>
>>>> I am not one to worry about the cannon... which means
>>>> sometimes I break things, as I did this time. There was
>>>> still an (informal) sponsor, the one that sent the invites.
>>>> They just did not have a presence on the day. Thank you
>>>> Daniel as you did make me think critically about the
>>>> strength of my role as host. I think I dealt with that
>>>> through my introduction to the day; and as it turns out the
>>>> authority to host was not an issue.
>>>>
>>>> But as it turns out, that was not really the biggest challenge!
>>>>
>>>> The main lessons I took away about what contributed to the
>>>> average result:
>>>>
>>>> *There needs to be clear, compelling shared work.*
>>>>
>>>> The overall project was more complicated than OST, so it
>>>> wasn't clear what turning up actually meant, and I think
>>>> many did not turn up on the basis of wanting to resolve a
>>>> shared challenge (the work), as you might expect for OST.
>>>> In straight OST terms, you could say this was an issue of
>>>> invitation, but really it was many things.
>>>>
>>>> So the group was interesting. They had the heart, but not
>>>> the will. They were committed, but without ownership of the
>>>> result. I've seen this a lot in the community engagement
>>>> field, but nowhere that I have used (or seen) OST.
>>>>
>>>> I thought about this a lot, I thought it might have been
>>>> about the invitation and self-selection; but at the end of
>>>> the day I think it comes down to the sense of (and
>>>> invitation in to) shared work.
>>>>
>>>> *It is super hard to dissolve ingrained power and authority
>>>> relationships in the short term. These can't be sidestepped
>>>> by an external facilitator.*
>>>>
>>>> I struggled to help the client (the funding body) to really
>>>> 'empower'. They talked about it and genuinely want to, but
>>>> old habits and mental models don't change overnight. They
>>>> really struggled to push beyond managing the process as
>>>> superiours (to a set of subordinate participants). This is
>>>> 'empowerment' within a patriarchal system, and it doesn't
>>>> work. It felt very yucky at times.
>>>>
>>>> A curious side effect of this partriarchal 'empowerment' was
>>>> an unwillingness to be clear about the work ("we want to be
>>>> open and let them lead the process" they would say... I got
>>>> the client to agree that /the/y were clearly the leaders,
>>>> but we didn't quite work out how to put that into practice).
>>>>
>>>> Over the course of the engagement, we all took baby steps
>>>> together that invest in their (/our) capacity to really work
>>>> together in future. They learned a LOT in a short period of
>>>> time, and so did I, but it was too short. By the end of the
>>>> project I had the client calling me up to ask how they could
>>>> reword things so they didn't reflect a control response. : )
>>>> That was good, but obviously if they need me for this then
>>>> there is some way to go. And different client reps had
>>>> different levels of self reflection.
>>>>
>>>> Hosting an isolated OST workshop against this grain was very
>>>> ambitious, it was always going to be, no matter how we
>>>> conducted ourselves.
>>>>
>>>> And perhaps 20% were very proactive, and led the bulk of the
>>>> work that occurred... they saved the day!
>>>>
>>>> But the length of the OST was not enough for this leadership
>>>> to really be contagious and precipitate a productive culture.
>>>>
>>>> *Or in other words: we struggled to free up authorisation to
>>>> be more dynamic*
>>>>
>>>> Reading your blog post Daniel, the idea of dynamic
>>>> authorisation would have been very useful earlier in the
>>>> project. Another way of looking at the project: we
>>>> struggled to free the space of ingrained authority to enable
>>>> dynamic authorisation.
>>>>
>>>> There were lots of other insights into how we could have
>>>> done it differently, but to me these were the fundamental
>>>> stumbling blocks for us.
>>>>
>>>> Still, they were not too big, and I'm pleased we made a good
>>>> start.
>>>>
>>>> My favourite feedback was "thank you, this was the first
>>>> time I have been part of genuine engagement in more than a
>>>> decade in the sector" : )
>>>>
>>>> Next time, we will do better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> */John Baxter/*
>>>>
>>>> /?//Co//?//Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of
>>>> Realise consultancy/
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Daniel Mezick
>>>> <dan at newtechusa.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi John,
>>>>
>>>> Yours is a very interesting story.
>>>>
>>>> You say:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /"...To be honest*I am not sure* how I need to deal with
>>>> this, though *my strategy is to accept the authority* for
>>>> hosting the space in the next workshop, *obsolving the
>>>> department of their responsibility* to manage the day."
>>>>
>>>> "...I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority
>>>> candidates hosting something genuinely participatory. *The
>>>> relevant director has said she doesn't want to speak
>>>> formally and become The Authority for the day*, a position I
>>>> agree with."/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the situation as described, it sounds like the org is the
>>>> very earliest stages of moving in a direction of more
>>>> open/participatory/inviting.
>>>>
>>>> Do you agree with this assessment?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If this assessment is correct, based on what you describe, I
>>>> would probably avoid attempting Open Space in the canonical
>>>> form whatsoever (as described in the OST GUIDE) because the
>>>> Sponsor role is vacant. Unoccupied. And so, by my reckoning,
>>>> if I understand you right, a true Open Space event isn't
>>>> even possible, because the essential OST-Sponsor-role is in
>>>> fact not willingly occupied by anyone with enough authority
>>>> to play that essential role well.
>>>>
>>>> What's clear is that someone who could function as
>>>> OST-Sponsor is currently unwilling to do so. And so I might
>>>> try a "taster" or "demo" event instead, where the goal is to
>>>> /learn about Open Space in general/, and do a /little/ bit
>>>> of "real" work too. Especially if the allotted time a mere
>>>> 1/2 day, I am even more inclined to strongly favor this
>>>> re-framing of the stated goals.
>>>>
>>>> So the primary and stated goal for the "taster" is learning
>>>> about OST. Another goal for a short event might be to see
>>>> who shows up super-interested in the art of Facilitation,
>>>> and then offer to mentor those who do self-select by showing
>>>> interest. In this manner some Facilitation capacity is
>>>> developed inside the org, to help with current meetings and
>>>> processes. Introducing Facilitation into typical meetings is
>>>> a easy and effective "culture hack".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me, the total unwillingness of an obvious candidate to
>>>> occupy the Sponsor role is a huge warning signal to slow
>>>> down, pause, or even stop.
>>>>
>>>> Lots of people here have more experience than me, and might
>>>> be willing to lend you some of their expertise regarding the
>>>> authority dynamics of Facilitating an OST event with the
>>>> essential OST-Sponsor-role completely vacant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On 9/28/14 11:30 PM, John Baxter wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am navigating some challenging authority dynamics in a
>>>> project at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> I was brought in a week out from the first of three
>>>> forums, and asked to 'facilitate a codesign process'
>>>> which was at that stage a black box (with many hidden
>>>> expectations) scheduled into that event (1 hour before
>>>> lunch and 1 hour afterwards).
>>>>
>>>> It's a long journey, but you can imagine how my role has
>>>> changed as I prepare for the third forum which I am
>>>> hosting in Open Space.
>>>>
>>>> The overall process is an engagement between a
>>>> government department and their funded agencies. The
>>>> most obvious direct power dynamics are obvious, the
>>>> effective power and authority dynamics are much more
>>>> complex (though predictable).
>>>>
>>>> Department staff have authority challenges as much as
>>>> the agencies. They are trying so hard to be 'neutral'
>>>> and 'non controlling' that they are effectively
>>>> reinforcing their own authority positions (which often
>>>> have little real correlation to the power, knowledge etc
>>>> that they imagine them to).
>>>>
>>>> To be honest I am not sure how I need to deal with this,
>>>> though my strategy is to accept the authority for
>>>> hosting the space in the next workshop, obsolving the
>>>> department of their responsibility to manage the day.
>>>>
>>>> It has been interesting to watch push back so far from
>>>> agency reps who are committed to participating, who are
>>>> genuinely engaged, but are playing to an us-them tension
>>>> that is getting in the way of the shared work (and
>>>> serves them no good ends except protecting them from
>>>> their own responsibility). Stand-offishness is gradually
>>>> being resolved, though some pockets are holding firm.
>>>>
>>>> I am crossing my fingers for WS3 that we can traverse
>>>> these and get into Open Space without being pushed off
>>>> the bridge by the reactionary tension; and that once on
>>>> the other side, the department reps can embrace Open
>>>> Space and take responsibility for their role.
>>>>
>>>> We will get across /as long as I have the authority/ to
>>>> host the space for them.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority
>>>> candidates hosting something genuinely participatory.
>>>> The relevant director has said she doesn't want to speak
>>>> formally and become The Authority for the day, a
>>>> position I agree with.
>>>>
>>>> But it does leave something of a shell, where I am
>>>> crossing my fingers that our time together thus far
>>>> affords me the authority to host that space.
>>>>
>>>> I think we are ready. I am bringing my harness and
>>>> floaties just in case.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> */John Baxter/*
>>>>
>>>> /? Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of
>>>> Realise consultancy/
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Daniel Mezick via
>>>> OSList <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Harrison,
>>>>
>>>> So interesting how the Law of 2 Feet authorizes me, and
>>>> every other member of an OST event, to go anywhere we
>>>> may want to go.
>>>>
>>>> Without asking anyone else for any kind of "permission"...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reminds me of this past June, being in Camden with you,
>>>> and Ethelyn, and Harold, and friends... when we were
>>>> standing on the porch of that Camden restaurant...
>>>> waiting for everyone to arrive, and assemble for dinner...
>>>>
>>>> And as we wait, I notice there is this
>>>> convenient-looking, alternate entry-door... into the
>>>> dining area.
>>>>
>>>> And I say: "Hmm...I wonder if we are authorized to use
>>>> that door."
>>>>
>>>> And you say:
>>>>
>>>> "We're authorized to go Anywhere we want to go."
>>>>
>>>> ...and I like that.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Picture of that place:
>>>> https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161
>>>> See also:
>>>> https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <mime-attachment.png>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/25/14 4:58 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language
>>>> comes from a place I don?t know... which is to say
>>>> that I probably wouldn?t say what you say in the way
>>>> that you do (duh). BUT when I run my ?translator? it
>>>> comes out sounding pretty good! So... I can?t help
>>>> with the questions you have raised. Actually I think
>>>> you are doing pretty well on your own, and
>>>> (hopefully) will incite others to a similarly
>>>> riotous performance. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Harrison
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>>>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 AM
>>>> *To:* oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>>>> *Subject:* [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>>
>>>> Greetings to All,
>>>>
>>>> For the past several years I have attended
>>>> conferences of the Group Relations community, and
>>>> encouraged others to do the same. I've studied their
>>>> literature, and harvested some important learning as
>>>> a result. One of the things I have come to
>>>> understand a little bit better is the role of
>>>> "authority dynamics" in self-organizing social systems.
>>>>
>>>> Link:
>>>> www.akriceinstitute.org <http://www.akriceinstitute.org>
>>>>
>>>> Over the past several years I've been using Open
>>>> Space with intent to improve the results of my work
>>>> in helping companies implement Agile ideas in their
>>>> organizations. We do an initial Open Space, then the
>>>> folks get about 3 months to play with Agile (we
>>>> carefully use the word "experimentation" with
>>>> management,) then we do another Open Space after
>>>> that, to inspect what just happened across the
>>>> enterprise. The initial and subsequent Open Space
>>>> events form a "safe" container or field in which the
>>>> members can /learn/... as they explore how to
>>>> /improve/ together by /experimenting/ with new
>>>> practices, and see if they actually work. I call the
>>>> process Open Agile Adoption.
>>>>
>>>> Link:
>>>> OpenAgileAdoption.com <http://OpenAgileAdoption.com>
>>>>
>>>> This seems to work pretty good. It seems to "take
>>>> the air out of" most of the fear, most of the
>>>> anxiety and most of the worry that is created. The
>>>> key aspect is /consent/: absolutely no one is forced
>>>> to do anything they are unwilling to do. No one is
>>>> /coerced/ to /comply/. Everyone is instead
>>>> respectfully /invited/ to help /write/ the story,
>>>> and be a /character/ in the story...of the
>>>> contemplated process change. Open Agile Adoption
>>>> encourages a spirit of experimentation and play.
>>>>
>>>> The spirit of Open Space is the spirit of freedom.
>>>> Isn't it? In the OST community, we discuss and talk
>>>> a lot about self-organization, self-management and
>>>> self-governance. The Agile community also talks
>>>> about these ideas a lot.
>>>>
>>>> So I have some questions. What is really going on
>>>> during self-organization in a social system? What
>>>> are the steps? What information is being sent and
>>>> received? >From whom, and by whom? Is the
>>>> information about /authority/ important? How
>>>> important? Can a social system self organize without
>>>> regard to who has the right to do what work? /How do
>>>> decisions that affect others get made in a
>>>> self-organizing system?/
>>>>
>>>> Who decides about /who decides/? How important is
>>>> the process of /authorization/ in a self-organizing
>>>> system? Is self-organization in large part the
>>>> process of dynamic authorization (and
>>>> /de-authorization/) in real time?
>>>>
>>>> What /is /authorization? Can self-organization occur
>>>> without the sending and receiving of authorization
>>>> data by and between the members?
>>>>
>>>> Is Bruce Tuckman's
>>>> forming/storming/performing/adjourning actually
>>>> decomposing the /dynamics of authorization/ inside a
>>>> social system?
>>>>
>>>> The essay below attempts to answer some of these
>>>> difficult questions. I'd love your thoughts on it.
>>>> Will you give it a look?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Essay: Authority Distribution in Open Space
>>>> http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>>>
>>>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>>
>>>> (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)
>>>>
>>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>>>
>>>> Examine my new book:The Culture Game
>>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools
>>>> for the Agile Manager.
>>>>
>>>> Explore Agile Team Training
>>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/>
>>>> and Coaching.
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>>>>
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>>>> Daniel Mezick, President
>>>>
>>>> New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>>
>>>> (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)
>>>>
>>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
>>>> <http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/>.
>>>>
>>>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game
>>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>:
>>>> Tools for the Agile Manager.
>>>>
>>>> Explore Agile Team Training
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>>>>
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>>>> Examine my new book: The Culture Game
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>>>> for the Agile Manager.
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>>>
>>> Bio <http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/>. Blog
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/blog/>. Twitter
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>>>
>>> Examine my new book:The Culture Game
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/>: Tools for
>>> the Agile Manager.
>>>
>>> Explore Agile Team Training
>>> <http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/> and
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Infrastructure in OS</div><div><br></div><div>Yes! Peggy. I've observed that people always build infrastructure, tacit as well as formal. </div><div><br></div><div>To me OS infrastructure serves flow. Flow happens when resonance within me (the participant) (what i care about/love) connects with resonance within you and innerly with the resonating meme in the transfinite field. Hence the Law of Two Feet (as i interpret it) "take responsibility (or follow) for what you care about/love." And the principles of OS remind you how to make it easy on yourself; while the minimal patterns require little interpretation because they're self evident, natural human patterns of gathering and distribution.</div><div><br></div><div>Love to all! 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Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? (John Baxter via OSList)</span><br><span> 2. Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?</span><br><span> (John Baxter via OSList)</span><br><span> 3. Re: Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?</span><br><span> (Chris Corrigan via OSList)</span><br><span> 4. Re: Authority in Open Space - "All Open Space"</span><br><span> (John Baxter via OSList)</span><br><span> 5. Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? (Daniel Mezick via OSList)</span><br><span> 6. Re: Private vs Public OST Differences? (Michael Herman via OSList)</span><br><span> 7. Re: Authority in Open Space - "All Open Space"</span><br><span> (Daniel Mezick via OSList)</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>----------------------------------------------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 1</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 14:24:20 +1030</span><br><span>From: John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: Peggy Holman <<a href="mailto:peggy at peggyholman.com">peggy at peggyholman.com</a>>, World wide Open Space</span><br><span> Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAJpg6=R=ND_Wi1EsVJNs0yX_PSkeoskeLO0LJjokTcdw1YCFnQ at mail.gmail.com">CAJpg6=R=ND_Wi1EsVJNs0yX_PSkeoskeLO0LJjokTcdw1YCFnQ at mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Amen to the infrastructure you talk of Peggy.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I think of an OST gathering as really just a piece of infrastructure in an</span><br><span>ongoing social field (an open space if you will), and it is perfectly</span><br><span>reasonable to wonder whether other infrastructures can not also (or</span><br><span>alternatively) serve the ongoing space - especially facilitating</span><br><span>information flows.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>*John Baxter*</span><br><span>*?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*</span><br><span><a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a>? <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>> |</span><br><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>></span><br><span>0405 447 829</span><br><span>? | ?</span><br><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>*City Grill? An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any Ever Seen</span><br><span><<a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au">http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>>!, Saturday 18 October 2014Connect with</span><br><span>your candidates, get your voice heard by joining with others in your</span><br><span>community, and Influence the future of the city*</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 2:54 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <</span><br><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Michael,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes! You captured the dynamics I've experienced with public events</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>beautifully! The call of the invitation that doesn't seem to say anything</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>specific but people say I know I need to be there.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And the proceedings on the side of the desk. It speaks to the way I think</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>about the role of infrastructure for public events.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To your comment:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>which makes me wonder if the work in public spaces is not so much about</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>building infrastructure, which people can easily build for themselves and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>also already exists in many ways, but rather finding ways to point out over</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and over again through the event that the work of participants does not end</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with the closing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I go back to my previous message on infrastructure in public settings.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Infrastructure that supports connection and makes stories visible can</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>amplify the nature energies that emerge from a public event.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Peggy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent from my iPad</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>425-746-6274</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.peggyholman.com">www.peggyholman.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 16, 2014, at 6:29 AM, Michael Herman via OSList <</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>some years ago i facilitated the first illinois food security summit, a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>public meeting of very diverse group of about 200, convened by a big</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>foundation. at the end of the event, one of the common reflections heard</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>throughout the space was something like, "i can't believe we didn't know</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>each other already (given that we're all doing such similar work/have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>similar interests)." the following year, the two things i heard over and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>over again were something like "i still have last year's proceedings</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sitting on the corner of my desk" and "we're all still talking." i think</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>we have to be careful not to impose internal standards for "action" on more</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>distributed public meeting/working. having the proceedings (and its</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>priorities and plans) at their fingertips and having so many connections</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>still active was definite progress and was informing all kinds of activity.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> there just wasn't a "center" working to score that and own it like there</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>would be inside of an organization. which makes me wonder if the work in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>public spaces is not so much about building infrastructure, which people</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>can easily build for themselves and also already exists in many ways, but</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>rather finding ways to point out over and over again through the event that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the work of participants does not end with the closing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>also, to the challenge of public invitations, we wrote 37 drafts of 6</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>different editions of the invitation to what we called "the giving</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>conference." the big challenge was that there was very little language</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>shared among the several very different groups/communities of people we</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wanted to invite. in the end, people said, "the crazy thing is that i'm</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>here, because the invitation really didn't say ANYTHING, but when i read</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>it, i knew i had to be here."</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>m</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Michael Herman</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Michael Herman Associates</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>312-280-7838 (mobile)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://MichaelHerman.com">http://MichaelHerman.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://OpenSpaceWorld.org">http://OpenSpaceWorld.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:07 AM, John Baxter via OSList <</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Amen to the time consuming nature of "invitations".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Of course, if you don't have a discrete list with an established</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>relationship to each member, the material nature of the activity isn't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"invitation", but marketing and promotion... I haven't worked on a public</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>event where the promotion was not the hardest part.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cheers</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*John Baxter*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a>? <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>> |</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*City Grill? An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any Ever Seen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au">http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>>!, Saturday 18 October 2014Connect with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>your candidates, get your voice heard by joining with others in your</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>community, and Influence the future of the city*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Peggy Holman via OSList <</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I?d echo Christine?s observations about infrastructure. So much of that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>is something that you can take for granted in an organization and requires</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>some thought when dealing with public settings.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>A couple other distinctions I?ve noticed:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Organizational events are high context. A calling question is asked</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>within an existing culture. That?s both a blessing and a curse. It means</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that there?s much that doesn?t need explaining. And it means there are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>unconscious habits of relating and behaving present. Not bad. Just the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>territory.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examples: I was recently with a group that had an internal clock for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>half an hour meetings. It was interesting watching their rhythm shift over</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the course of the Open Space. For that same event, I spent about 10 minutes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>with the leadership team before we started encouraging them to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>themselves and participate, like everyone else. They bring a unique and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>valuable perspective, as do others. And their voices carry a weight they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>might not appreciate because of their place in the hierarchy. So if they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>found themselves the center of attention, I suggested that it?s a good time</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to ask a question that gives the focus back to the group. Or use the law of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>two feet and go elsewhere.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Public events don?t have the context of an existing culture. So the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>calling question may have a much wider variation in meaning to people who</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>come. And there may be fewer existing relationships and norms. Again, not</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>bad. Just different.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Many years ago I was part of a team that did a public event with a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>calling question so broad that people had multiple interpretations of it.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The question: *How do we support a movement toward the conscious</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>evolution of increasingly conscious social systems? *(See</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.thegreatstory.org/ev-salon2.html">http://www.thegreatstory.org/ev-salon2.html</a>). A number of people on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>this list were part of it. People showed up because they were attracted to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the hosts or something about the question spoke to them. It was wild, fun,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and creative. And there was a demand on the second day to hear from the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>organizers what we meant by the question, just for more context.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The other thing I?ve learned is that the process of invitation can be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>much more intense for public events. In organizations, the bulk of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>participation is internal. While there are certainly issues with ensuring a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>spirit of invitation, who to invite and how to reach them is pretty</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>straightforward.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For public events, I find that if you want a diversity of folks,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>inviting can be the most time consuming activity of all. I did some work</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>with the Forest Service years ago to look at the future of the forests in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the San Bernardino Mountains in California. They were heading into a rough</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>fire season, felt they?d done everything they could do to prepare. While</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>they had the public?s attention, they wanted to look to the future, 50</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>years out. We worked with them to identify the range of people who cared,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>including state, local, federal, and regional government, community</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>organizations, chamber of commerce, insurance companies (small, but</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>influential), ranchers who leased land in the national forests,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>environmental groups, and on and on. Getting the word out to all these</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>folks took some thought.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Peggy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Peggy Holman</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Executive Director</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Journalism that Matters</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>15347 SE 49th Place</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bellevue, WA 98006</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>425-746-6274</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.journalismthatmatters.net">www.journalismthatmatters.net</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.peggyholman.com">www.peggyholman.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Twitter: @peggyholman</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>JTM Twitter: @JTMStream</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Enjoy the award winning Engaging Emergence: Turning Upheaval into</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Opportunity <<a href="http://www.engagingemergence.com">http://www.engagingemergence.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Check out my series on what's emerging in the news & information</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ecosystem</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.journalismthatmatters.net/the_emerging_news_and_information_eco_system">http://www.journalismthatmatters.net/the_emerging_news_and_information_eco_system</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList <</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel and all,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>results as an in-organization OST. I?ve facilitated a number of them that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>were sponsored by a group of organizations in the community. For instance, Vibrant</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phoenix <<a href="http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/">http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/</a>>, was a very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>productive economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>municipalities and several local businesses. One of the business sponsors</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to take their ?actionable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ideas? to the next level. However, there was no budget and no</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas they cared the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>most about.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is where the public open spaces generally fall short. Because the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>ongoing action is not the core mission of any of these organizations, it is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>hoped that the participants will self-organize going forward. With very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>few exceptions, this does not happen. I believe that sponsorship for the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>work after the OST is what is called for.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Collective Impact</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work">http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work</a>> model</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>speaks to this. It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple way</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining collective action. I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>now include my version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>shine the light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss their intentions</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for providing backbone support for self-organized action going forward.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first small step in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>collaborative action. There is so much potential!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Christine</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><clip_image002.png></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phoenix, AZ, USA ? +1.480.759.0262</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.innovationpartners.com">www.innovationpartners.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Facebook <<a href="https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez">https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez</a>> | LinkedIn</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez">https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez</a>> | Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez">https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Greetings To All,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I notice that there are many big differences between</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>organizations.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making stuff</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>up...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these differences as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>striking. Even disturbing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is about</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>a public event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is clear:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><THE GUIDE PAGE 18></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the sponsor</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore *it is your decision</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>as to whether or not to proceed*...(*emphasis added.*)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></THE GUIDE PAGE 18></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>**and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST event *inside</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>an organization*. For the typical public-conference event on the other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or Unconference....</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is best</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>suited for use in organizations.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" formats</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the public</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>conference setting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in bringing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>about Development and Transformation in Organizations the way Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>can. 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+1030</span><br><span>From: John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: [OSList] Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAJpg6=Q2wO+afeQB48E_dcavgW0QgRGO_qsq-j31w32vVLbz0w at mail.gmail.com">CAJpg6=Q2wO+afeQB48E_dcavgW0QgRGO_qsq-j31w32vVLbz0w at mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Hello all</span><br><span></span><br><span>My interest at the moment is to learn simply, who here is interested in</span><br><span>pattern languages and Open Space?</span><br><span></span><br><span>I introduced myself to the Facebook group by asking who is interested in</span><br><span>pattern languages. It seems to be kick starting a discussion, but Artur</span><br><span>Silva points out that would be better suited to OSList. So abracadabra,</span><br><span>here we are!</span><br><span></span><br><span>Artur referred to a (~2009) conversation on the "Foundations of OST", which</span><br><span>came close to the topic without being explicit. I will explore this</span><br><span>sometime soon.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I personally have a long-term interest in patterns for participatory</span><br><span>processes, and use patterns as a frame to extrapolate lessons from OST to</span><br><span>apply in other contexts.</span><br><span></span><br><span>If these things are of interest I welcome a conversation : )</span><br><span></span><br><span>Cheers</span><br><span></span><br><span>*John Baxter*</span><br><span>*?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*</span><br><span><a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a>? <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>> |</span><br><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>></span><br><span>0405 447 829</span><br><span>? | ?</span><br><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141017/e8a9b03e/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141017/e8a9b03e/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 3</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 00:41:02 -0700</span><br><span>From: Chris Corrigan via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: John Baxter <<a href="mailto:john at jsbaxter.com.au">john at jsbaxter.com.au</a>>, World wide Open Space</span><br><span> Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Patterns of OST - to whom is this of interest?</span><br><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:B247AF73-C401-4DED-A873-B6EB5DD23596 at gmail.com">B247AF73-C401-4DED-A873-B6EB5DD23596 at gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>You will find the group pattern language project interesting...</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="http://groupworksdeck.org">http://groupworksdeck.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Chris</span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>CHRIS CORRIGAN</span><br><span>Harvest Moon Consultants</span><br><span>Facilitation, Open Space Technology and process design </span><br><span></span><br><span>Check <a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com">www.chriscorrigan.com</a> for upcoming workshops, blog posts and free resources. </span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 16, 2014, at 9:28 PM, John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hello all</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My interest at the moment is to learn simply, who here is interested in pattern languages and Open Space?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I introduced myself to the Facebook group by asking who is interested in pattern languages. It seems to be kick starting a discussion, but Artur Silva points out that would be better suited to OSList. So abracadabra, here we are!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Artur referred to a (~2009) conversation on the "Foundations of OST", which came close to the topic without being explicit. I will explore this sometime soon.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I personally have a long-term interest in patterns for participatory processes, and use patterns as a frame to extrapolate lessons from OST to apply in other contexts.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>If these things are of interest I welcome a conversation : )</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Cheers</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>John Baxter</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a>? | <a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829? | ?@jsbaxter_</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141017/f575c42a/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141017/f575c42a/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 4</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:31:40 +1030</span><br><span>From: John Baxter via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: paul levy <<a href="mailto:rationalmadness at gmail.com">rationalmadness at gmail.com</a>>, World wide Open Space</span><br><span> Technology email list <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Authority in Open Space - "All Open Space"</span><br><span>Message-ID:</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:CAJpg6=S9NBRWU2emSRO+YMCR2UZ2=+Z21ed_QpZ67NeMmCW1zA at mail.gmail.com">CAJpg6=S9NBRWU2emSRO+YMCR2UZ2=+Z21ed_QpZ67NeMmCW1zA at mail.gmail.com</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br><span></span><br><span>I don't think you need to be so qualified, Paul;</span><br><span>3.) All "all statements" are *positively* self limiting.</span><br><span></span><br><span>But then if I gather correctly, it's all a joke anyway.</span><br><span></span><br><span>So from that vantage point... what do we do now?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>*John Baxter*</span><br><span>*?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*</span><br><span><a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a>? <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>> |</span><br><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>></span><br><span>0405 447 829</span><br><span>? | ?</span><br><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>*City Grill? An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any Ever Seen</span><br><span><<a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au">http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>>!, Saturday 18 October 2014Connect with</span><br><span>your candidates, get your voice heard by joining with others in your</span><br><span>community, and Influence the future of the city*</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM, paul levy via OSList <</span><br><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Of course ! It's the wonderful irony of "all" statements.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Paul</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:43, Daniel Mezick via OSList <</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Including this one?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 10/16/14 2:15 PM, paul levy via OSList wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'd just venture to add a third to Harrison's first two...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> And 3. All "all statements" are possibly self-limiting</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Best regards</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Paul Levy</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Thursday, 16 October 2014, Harrison Owen via OSList <</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> John ? Thank you, Thank you for all the rich stuff! Sort of a Tidal</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Wave, but that?s when it gets fun, albeit a tad difficult to keep track of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the sundry bits and pieces J</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Picking Just One: ?But I can't get past the feeling that *there are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>lots of barriers to the openness of space, and to self organisation*.?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Absolutely. And if we were to put that into the language of the trade</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(Complexity Theorists and the like) we would be talking about ?system</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>constraints.? But as I understand it, that does not mean that Self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Organization is no longer operative. And in fact the System Constraints are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>part and parcel of the process, a very important part. I think it goes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>something like this ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have found myself coming to two conclusions, or better yet</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>observations. 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>As Open Systems, we, in all permutations of our ?us-ness? ? businesses,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>countries, families, planets, etc) are open to, and impacted by, all other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>systems. Sometimes a lot, and sometimes a little, but in our cosmos there</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>is no safe, protected place. Everything is related to everything else, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>we are no exception. If true, this has a number of implications. First of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>all the environment in which we exist is so complex, fast moving and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>inter-connected we can?t even think at that level. Secondly, what you can?t</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>even think about, you can?t control. So the notion that somebody is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>actually ?in charge/in control? is not just a silly idea, it is delusional.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3) System preservation/growth depends on our ability to navigate this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>environment. And it is a good news/bad news situation. Sometimes the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>impacts drive us in new and creative directions, and open up new</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>opportunities which are ours if we respond appropriately. At other times</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the impacts drive us to the wall, and it?s Game over. Another word is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Death. If this story is in any ways valid, it would seem like Mission</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Impossible. And yet this story has seemingly been going on for 13.7 Billion</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>years and we are still here to complain about it. How could that be?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>All Systems are Self Organizing ? Self Organization is in fact the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>mechanism whereby we navigate the environment, and all systems do it, I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>think. And when they stop doing it, they disappear. Self Organization is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>not the product of some CEO or executive committee. After all, they really</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>haven?t been around for all that long. Self Organization is the product of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the total system in all of its aspects and bits and pieces. How all that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>works has been a matter of stunning discovery over the past 40 years or so.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I doubt we have it all right, but I do think we may have the major elements</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of understanding in place. The outline goes something like this ? a) Steady</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>State b) Chaos c) A bifurcation to either dissipation (poof) or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>reconstitution at new and higher levels of order. Of course you have to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>fill in a lot of the blanks, and there is a massive literature attempting</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to do just that. But I do believe we have enough to get started with some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>basic observations. It really is a Whole System affair, in which all</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>elements must work together, and no element has an *a priori* claim to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>centrality. In a business this could mean that the dumb question of an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>intern could just open the doors for the future. You just don?t know. But</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>you do know that an organization?s future directly relates to its capacity</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to bring total system assets to bear on emergent challenges and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>opportunities quickly and effectively. It is always tempting to try and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>?hedge the bet? with some plan, policy or procedure, but it worthwhile</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>noting that the tighter (more constraining) the plan, the greater the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>likelihood of failure. It?s not that the plan was bad... but unfortunately</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the challenge or opportunity came from a different direction, and all our</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>eggs were in one basket ? the wrong one.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So we have a very existential question ? How do we assure sufficient room</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(dare I say Space?) so that the infinite elements of any organization may</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>quickly and effectively align to meet new challenges and opportunities ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>recognizing in advance that we can never know what will be required?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Open Space Technology is just a bit player in all of this, but good old</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>OST can be useful none the less both as a natural laboratory to explore</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>what is going on, and also as an effective intervention to encourage the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>appearance of the elemental power of self organization, particularly when</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>it seems blocked and constrained. There are no guarantees of course, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>it may well be that The Organization?s time is now: Game Over. But the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>chances of renewal are pretty good, at least that has been my experience.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And no matter what, the magic sauce is not OST ? but the power of self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>organization. So you could say, just as a way of speaking, ?It?s all Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Space.? 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AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*To:* Harrison Owen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I have knots about empowerment, and the ubiquitous openness of space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>These knots are about to inspire a rant.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>These knots, I should start with, are not entirely the result of this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>present discussion thread - it is just this discussion that prompts me to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>speak.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think I understand Harrison, if you suggest that self-organisation is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>more common than we realise... if not ubiquitous, omnipresent, then at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>least that we can fruitfully challenge the assumption that formal and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>top-down organisation dominates how things get done.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But I can't get past the feeling that *there are lots of barriers to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>openness of space, and to self organisation*. Everywhere and all the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>time. In my recent work, mental barriers by all involved about authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and role relationships. My personal barriers around trying too hard to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"empower". My client's patronising assumptions about the "capacity" and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"maturity" of "the sector". Information asymmetries.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So I get really conflicted when anyone starts saying "well space is open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>all the time" (implication: 'so chill out cos there's nothing you need to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>do').</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am also conflicted about stepping back from the goal of empowerment, as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>if everybody else needs to just step into open space and take</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>responsibility.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes - many people don't realise the power that they have. (In my last</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>project; nobody seemed to quite buy into the fact that *they could</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>directly author the document that they were trying to influence*.)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But it is also patronising to suggest that empowerment lies in just</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>helping people to see how powerful they are... because many people</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*don't* have the power that we or they might like. To suggest that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>people have the power and just don't use it... that effectively blames them</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for their situation, and washes our hands of responsibility.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The biggest barrier to group change I see time and time again is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>authority figures who believe others need to change, not themselves. (Most</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>commonly, that their employees need to "be empowered", and that they need</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to manage a culture change program to get there... or better yet, that HR</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>needs to manage the change program, while we are busy getting the real work</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>done.)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't pretend that empowerment is something that can be done to other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>people (patronising), but I do firmly believe that we all first need to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>look to ourselves and what we need to do to play our role making such a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>future possible. And, in fact, that *this is all that we can ever do*.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Maybe the wisdom in what you say Harrison is that we do this by focusing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>on respect first, as a productive way to enable empowerment.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Maybe I am picking on the wrong things and have misunderstood them, and I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>apologise if I have been critical. But I also see a lot of things said</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that make me uncomfortable, that knot me up. Again, most of these things</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>are from my memory, not the present discussion. While my memory might not</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>be the best, I'm sure it is based on something.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you all for your patience and for being in this discussion</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*John Baxter*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*?**Co**?**Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a>? <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>> |</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*City Grill? 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My confusion comes in part from my experience</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that complexity is actually an essential precondition for OST, or more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>exactly the effective operation of self organization. The essential</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>pre-conditions as I have experienced the are: A Real business issue</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(something that people really care about). High levels of complexity such</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that no single person or group has a prayer of figuring it out. High levels</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of diversity in terms of people and points of view. Lots of passion and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>conflict. And a decision time of yesterday (urgency). Given these 5</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>conditions, self organization in the more formal setting of OST or as a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>natural occurrence just seems to happen... unless...And this may be the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>point of problem... It is arbitrarily constrained... which usually means</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that somebody already has the plan/program/design and they are just looking</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for buy-in or (worst case) they are simply trying to sugar coat the pill,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and make it seem like the folks are creating something, when in fact the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>cake is already baked.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>A clue to the dilemma may be in the phrase, ?I struggled to help the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>client (the funding body) to really 'empower'...? I know we talk a lot</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>about empowerment, but I have come to the conclusion that it is really a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>red herring, and most painfully so in those situations where you actually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>try to do it. Sounds odd, I guess, but think about it. If I empower</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>you...you are in my power. And the more I try to empower you the worse it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>gets. Real empowerment, in my book, is not an act that we (or somebody) do,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>but an acknowledgement of a pre-existing condition...you are powerful. Of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>course I might encourage you a bit to be as powerful as you are, but it is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>not something I can give you. You must claim it for yourself. Strange as it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>may seem, I find the notion of ?empowerment? to be just the opposite of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that fundament of effective working relationships (or any relationship)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>RESPECT. And I suspect that it is precisely here that the fickle finger of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>fate is pointing to the critical issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Another word that fits in here for me is ?Patronizing.? Everything may</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>sound super nice, and all the proper and correct words may be spoken, but</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>if the implication is that the folks (participants) really do not have the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>competence or ability to deal with the issues, it is fairly predictable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that they will not bother to try. Or if they ?try? it will be pretty much</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of a pro forma situation. Sound familiar?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Harrison</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Winter Address</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls 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href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*From:* OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org</a>] *On</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Behalf Of *John Baxter via OSList</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Sent:* Monday, October 13, 2014 2:41 AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*To:* Daniel Mezick</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Cc:* World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* Re: [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Daniel. Thanks for your considered response.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I will try to keep my response in line with the topic.... but expect it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>may meander.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The OST day I was preparing for has since come and gone.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I decided in the end to least give OST a crack and see what happened.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It didn't go very well; but it also went well enough (vis overall project</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>goals, and client expectations), so I don't feel so bad about it... even if</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I had personally envisaged more.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am not one to worry about the cannon... which means sometimes I break</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>things, as I did this time. There was still an (informal) sponsor, the one</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that sent the invites. They just did not have a presence on the day.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thank you Daniel as you did make me think critically about the strength of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>my role as host. I think I dealt with that through my introduction to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>day; and as it turns out the authority to host was not an issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But as it turns out, that was not really the biggest challenge!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The main lessons I took away about what contributed to the average result:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*There needs to be clear, compelling shared work.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The overall project was more complicated than OST, so it wasn't clear</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>what turning up actually meant, and I think many did not turn up on the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>basis of wanting to resolve a shared challenge (the work), as you might</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>expect for OST. In straight OST terms, you could say this was an issue of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>invitation, but really it was many things.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So the group was interesting. They had the heart, but not the will.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>They were committed, but without ownership of the result. I've seen this a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>lot in the community engagement field, but nowhere that I have used (or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>seen) OST.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I thought about this a lot, I thought it might have been about the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>invitation and self-selection; but at the end of the day I think it comes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>down to the sense of (and invitation in to) shared work.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*It is super hard to dissolve ingrained power and authority relationships</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in the short term. These can't be sidestepped by an external facilitator.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I struggled to help the client (the funding body) to really 'empower'.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>They talked about it and genuinely want to, but old habits and mental</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>models don't change overnight. They really struggled to push beyond</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>managing the process as superiours (to a set of subordinate participants).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is 'empowerment' within a patriarchal system, and it doesn't work. It</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>felt very yucky at times.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>A curious side effect of this partriarchal 'empowerment' was an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>unwillingness to be clear about the work ("we want to be open and let them</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>lead the process" they would say... I got the client to agree that *the*y were</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>clearly the leaders, but we didn't quite work out how to put that into</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>practice).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Over the course of the engagement, we all took baby steps together that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>invest in their (/our) capacity to really work together in future. They</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>learned a LOT in a short period of time, and so did I, but it was too</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>short. By the end of the project I had the client calling me up to ask how</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>they could reword things so they didn't reflect a control response. : )</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> That was good, but obviously if they need me for this then there is some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>way to go. And different client reps had different levels of self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>reflection.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hosting an isolated OST workshop against this grain was very ambitious,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>it was always going to be, no matter how we conducted ourselves.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And perhaps 20% were very proactive, and led the bulk of the work that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>occurred... they saved the day!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But the length of the OST was not enough for this leadership to really be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>contagious and precipitate a productive culture.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Or in other words: we struggled to free up authorisation to be more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>dynamic*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Reading your blog post Daniel, the idea of dynamic authorisation would</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>have been very useful earlier in the project. Another way of looking at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the project: we struggled to free the space of ingrained authority to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>enable dynamic authorisation.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>There were lots of other insights into how we could have done it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>differently, but to me these were the fundamental stumbling blocks for us.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Still, they were not too big, and I'm pleased we made a good start.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>My favourite feedback was "thank you, this was the first time I have been</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>part of genuine engagement in more than a decade in the sector" : )</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Next time, we will do better.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*John Baxter*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*?**Co**?**Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a>? <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>> |</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829 <0405%20447%20829></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*City Grill? 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"...I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority candidates</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>hosting something genuinely participatory. The relevant director has said</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>she doesn't want to speak formally and become The Authority for the day, a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>position I agree with."*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>In the situation as described, it sounds like the org is the very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>earliest stages of moving in a direction of more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>open/participatory/inviting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do you agree with this assessment?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>If this assessment is correct, based on what you describe, I would</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>probably avoid attempting Open Space in the canonical form whatsoever (as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>described in the OST GUIDE) because the Sponsor role is vacant.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unoccupied. And so, by my reckoning, if I understand you right, a true Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Space event isn't even possible, because the essential OST-Sponsor-role is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in fact not willingly occupied by anyone with enough authority to play that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>essential role well.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>What's clear is that someone who could function as OST-Sponsor is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>currently unwilling to do so. And so I might try a "taster" or "demo" event</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>instead, where the goal is to *learn about Open Space in general*, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>do a *little* bit of "real" work too. Especially if the allotted time a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>mere 1/2 day, I am even more inclined to strongly favor this re-framing of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the stated goals.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So the primary and stated goal for the "taster" is learning about OST.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Another goal for a short event might be to see who shows up</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>super-interested in the art of Facilitation, and then offer to mentor those</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>who do self-select by showing interest. In this manner some Facilitation</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>capacity is developed inside the org, to help with current meetings and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>processes. Introducing Facilitation into typical meetings is a easy and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>effective "culture hack".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For me, the total unwillingness of an obvious candidate to occupy the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Sponsor role is a huge warning signal to slow down, pause, or even stop.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Lots of people here have more experience than me, and might be willing to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>lend you some of their expertise regarding the authority dynamics of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Facilitating an OST event with the essential OST-Sponsor-role completely</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>vacant</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kind Regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 9/28/14 11:30 PM, John Baxter wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I am navigating some challenging authority dynamics in a project at the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>moment.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I was brought in a week out from the first of three forums, and asked to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>'facilitate a codesign process' which was at that stage a black box (with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>many hidden expectations) scheduled into that event (1 hour before lunch</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and 1 hour afterwards).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It's a long journey, but you can imagine how my role has changed as I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>prepare for the third forum which I am hosting in Open Space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The overall process is an engagement between a government department and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>their funded agencies. The most obvious direct power dynamics are obvious,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the effective power and authority dynamics are much more complex (though</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>predictable).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Department staff have authority challenges as much as the agencies. They</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>are trying so hard to be 'neutral' and 'non controlling' that they are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>effectively reinforcing their own authority positions (which often have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>little real correlation to the power, knowledge etc that they imagine them</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To be honest I am not sure how I need to deal with this, though my</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>strategy is to accept the authority for hosting the space in the next</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>workshop, obsolving the department of their responsibility to manage the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>day.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>It has been interesting to watch push back so far from agency reps who</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>are committed to participating, who are genuinely engaged, but are playing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>to an us-them tension that is getting in the way of the shared work (and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>serves them no good ends except protecting them from their own</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>responsibility). Stand-offishness is gradually being resolved, though some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>pockets are holding firm.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I am crossing my fingers for WS3 that we can traverse these and get into</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Open Space without being pushed off the bridge by the reactionary tension;</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and that once on the other side, the department reps can embrace Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and take responsibility for their role.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>We will get across *as long as I have the authority* to host the space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>for them.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority candidates hosting</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>something genuinely participatory. The relevant director has said she</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>doesn't want to speak formally and become The Authority for the day, a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>position I agree with.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But it does leave something of a shell, where I am crossing my fingers</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that our time together thus far affords me the authority to host that space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think we are ready. I am bringing my harness and floaties just in case.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*John Baxter*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*? 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An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any Ever Seen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au">http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>>*, Saturday 18 October 2014</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Influence your city by building relationships and joining voices with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>others in your community</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi Harrison,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So interesting how the Law of 2 Feet authorizes me, and every other</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>member of an OST event, to go anywhere we may want to go.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Without asking anyone else for any kind of "permission"...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Reminds me of this past June, being in Camden with you, and Ethelyn, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Harold, and friends... when we were standing on the porch of that Camden</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>restaurant... waiting for everyone to arrive, and assemble for dinner...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And as we wait, I notice there is this convenient-looking, alternate</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>entry-door... into the dining area.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And I say: "Hmm...I wonder if we are authorized to use that door."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And you say:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"We're authorized to go Anywhere we want to go."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>...and I like that.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Picture of that place:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161">https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>See also:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360">https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><mime-attachment.png></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 9/25/14 4:58 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language comes from a place</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I don?t know... which is to say that I probably wouldn?t say what you say</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in the way that you do (duh). BUT when I run my ?translator? it comes out</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>sounding pretty good! So... I can?t help with the questions you have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>raised. Actually I think you are doing pretty well on your own, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(hopefully) will incite others to a similarly riotous performance. Thanks!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Harrison</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Winter Address</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>7808 River Falls 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href="http://www.openspaceworld.com">www.openspaceworld.com</a> <<a href="http://%20www.openspaceworld.com">http://%20www.openspaceworld.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.ho-image.com">www.ho-image.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>of OSLIST Go to:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*From:* OSList [<a href="mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org</a>] *On</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*To:* <a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*Subject:* [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Greetings to All,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>For the past several years I have attended conferences of the Group</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Relations community, and encouraged others to do the same. I've studied</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>their literature, and harvested some important learning as a result. One of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the things I have come to understand a little bit better is the role of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"authority dynamics" in self-organizing social systems.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Link:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.akriceinstitute.org">www.akriceinstitute.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Over the past several years I've been using Open Space with intent to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>improve the results of my work in helping companies implement Agile ideas</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in their organizations. We do an initial Open Space, then the folks get</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>about 3 months to play with Agile (we carefully use the word</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>"experimentation" with management,) then we do another Open Space after</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>that, to inspect what just happened across the enterprise. The initial and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>subsequent Open Space events form a "safe" container or field in which the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>members can *learn*... as they explore how to *improve* together by</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*experimenting* with new practices, and see if they actually work. I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>call the process Open Agile Adoption.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Link:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://OpenAgileAdoption.com">OpenAgileAdoption.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>This seems to work pretty good. It seems to "take the air out of" most of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the fear, most of the anxiety and most of the worry that is created. The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>key aspect is *consent*: absolutely no one is forced to do anything they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>are unwilling to do. No one is *coerced* to *comply*. Everyone is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>instead respectfully *invited* to help *write* the story, and be a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*character* in the story...of the contemplated process change. Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Agile Adoption encourages a spirit of experimentation and play.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The spirit of Open Space is the spirit of freedom. Isn't it? In the OST</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>community, we discuss and talk a lot about self-organization,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>self-management and self-governance. The Agile community also talks about</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>these ideas a lot.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So I have some questions. What is really going on during</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>self-organization in a social system? What are the steps? What information</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>is being sent and received? >From whom, and by whom? Is the information</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>about *authority* important? How important? Can a social system self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>organize without regard to who has the right to do what work? *How do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>decisions that affect others get made in a self-organizing system?*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Who decides about *who decides*? How important is the process of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>*authorization* in a self-organizing system? Is self-organization in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>large part the process of dynamic authorization (and *de-authorization*)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>in real time?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>What *is *authorization? Can self-organization occur without the sending</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>and receiving of authorization data by and between the members?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Is Bruce Tuckman's forming/storming/performing/adjourning actually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>decomposing the *dynamics of authorization* inside a social system?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>The essay below attempts to answer some of these difficult questions. I'd</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>love your thoughts on it. Will you give it a look?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Essay: Authority Distribution in Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/">http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Kind Regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examine my new book: The Culture Game</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools for the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Agile Manager.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore Agile Team Training</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>> and Coaching.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore the Agile Boston <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/">http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Community.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examine my new book: The Culture Game</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools for the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Agile Manager.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore Agile Team Training</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>> and Coaching.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore the Agile Boston <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/">http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Community.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examine my new book: The Culture Game</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools for the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Agile Manager.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore Agile Team Training</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>> and Coaching.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore the Agile Boston <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/">http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Community.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:http://<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Examine my new book: The Culture Game</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools for the Agile</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Manager.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore Agile Team Training</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>> and Coaching.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Explore the Agile Boston <<a href="http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/">http://newtechusa.net//user-groups/ma/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Community.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>OSList mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To post send emails to <a href="mailto:OSList at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe send an email to <a href="mailto:OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org">OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org">http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><span>-------------- next part --------------</span><br><span>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...</span><br><span>URL: <<a href="http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141017/bed9365b/attachment-0001.htm">http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20141017/bed9365b/attachment-0001.htm</a>></span><br><span></span><br><span>------------------------------</span><br><span></span><br><span>Message: 5</span><br><span>Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 07:31:56 -0400</span><br><span>From: Daniel Mezick via OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>To: Christine Whitney Sanchez <<a href="mailto:christine at innovationpartners.com">christine at innovationpartners.com</a>>,</span><br><span> World wide Open Space Technology email list</span><br><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>></span><br><span>Subject: Re: [OSList] Private vs Public OST Differences?</span><br><span>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:5440FE2C.9050704 at newtechusa.net">5440FE2C.9050704 at newtechusa.net</a>></span><br><span>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"</span><br><span></span><br><span>Greetings Christine,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience </span><br><span>whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds, </span><br><span>industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless!</span><br><span></span><br><span>As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about those use </span><br><span>cases. I do have some theories however, and I hope I can ask some </span><br><span>questions about OST for guilds & industry associations...</span><br><span></span><br><span>I see it like this:</span><br><span></span><br><span>(1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very private, </span><br><span>business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family system.</span><br><span></span><br><span>(2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public conference that </span><br><span>anyone can attend, if they pay the money...</span><br><span></span><br><span> * It is an event that has some Open Space of varying quality, in</span><br><span> 1/2 day, full day or multiple day formats.</span><br><span> * It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not have</span><br><span> Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on the wall. If it</span><br><span> has Proceedings at all, they are often late.</span><br><span> * "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end of the range.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds, industry </span><br><span>associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of these two </span><br><span>extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how these events take </span><br><span>on the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the very private, </span><br><span>business-org-specific event. They might even effectively BE private </span><br><span>events. It's not like anyone with the fee (if any) can just waltz into </span><br><span>the meeting right?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events aside, </span><br><span>and/or characterize them as private events. Is that OK?</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very huge </span><br><span>differences between these two ways to use Open Space.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Like, the difference between Night and Day.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Here's one of those very striking differences: in public-conference </span><br><span>events where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or full day formats, getting good </span><br><span>Proceedings is difficult. Or impossible. The Proceedings are typically </span><br><span>late and poorly formatted, or more commonly: /non-existent./</span><br><span></span><br><span>Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task of </span><br><span>Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a magnet. They </span><br><span>typically wave off any offers of help and take an absolutely huge </span><br><span>interest in the Proceedings generation. They rivet on it.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>And this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences. And </span><br><span>so I continue to assert that for public-conference events where OST is a </span><br><span>full day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can and does get </span><br><span>equivalent, similar, as-good results.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what Open </span><br><span>Space does for organizations. And that's because Open Space is optimized </span><br><span>for enabling "development and transformation in organizations. "</span><br><span></span><br><span>And those other two aren't.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>Daniel</span><br><span></span><br><span>PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature all-day </span><br><span>Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this is clearly the </span><br><span>exception, and not the rule where Agile conferences are concerned.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel and all,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>results as an in-organization OST. I?ve facilitated a number of them </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that were sponsored by a group of organizations in the community. For </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>instance, Vibrant Phoenix </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/">http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/</a>>, was a very productive </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>municipalities and several local businesses. One of the business </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sponsors agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to take their </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>?actionable ideas? to the next level. However, there was no budget </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and no infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>they cared the most about.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This is where the public open spaces generally fall short. Because </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the ongoing action is not the core mission of any of these </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>organizations, it is hoped that the participants will self-organize </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>going forward. With very few exceptions, this does not happen. I </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>believe that sponsorship for the work after the OST is what is called for.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Collective Impact </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work">http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work</a>> model </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>speaks to this. It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>way to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining collective </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>action. I now include my version of this model when I talk with </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>potential sponsors to shine the light beyond the meeting so that we </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>can discuss their intentions for providing backbone support for </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>self-organized action going forward.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first small step in </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>collaborative action. There is so much potential!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Christine</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phoenix,AZ, USA ?+1.480.759.0262</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.innovationpartners.com">www.innovationpartners.com</a> <<a href="http://www.innovationpartners.com">http://www.innovationpartners.com</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Facebook <<a href="https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez">https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez</a>> | LinkedIn </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez">https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez</a>> |Twitter </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez">https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Greetings To All,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I notice that there are many big differences between </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>organizations.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>stuff up...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these differences </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>as striking. Even disturbing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>about a public event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>clear:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><THE GUIDE PAGE 18></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>sponsor and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore */it is your </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>decision as to whether or not to proceed/*...(/emphasis added./)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></THE GUIDE PAGE 18></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>**and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>event /inside an organization/. For the typical public-conference </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>event on the other hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Barcamp or Unconference....</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is best </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>suited for use in organizations.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>formats seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>public conference setting.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>or Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>bringing about Development and Transformation in Organizations the way </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Open Space can. 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It's about the different structures. I've seen very loose</span><br><span>corporate add-on events and very productive and long-lived action (spanning</span><br><span>years and continents) come from open public conferences. So id say</span><br><span>structure matters much more than setting.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On Friday, October 17, 2014, Daniel Mezick via OSList <</span><br><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span> Greetings Christine,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks for your detailed reply. I must admit, I have no experience</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>whatsoever with doing quasi-public OST events arranged for guilds,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>industry-associations and the like. I'm clueless!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As such, my opinion does not have much (if any) validity about those use</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>cases. I do have some theories however, and I hope I can ask some questions</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>about OST for guilds & industry associations...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I see it like this:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(1) At one extreme end of the spectrum, there is the very private,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>business-org-specific event. A kind of big-family system.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(2) At the other extreme, there is the totally public conference that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>anyone can attend, if they pay the money...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - It is an event that has some Open Space of varying quality, in 1/2</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> day, full day or multiple day formats.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - It may of may not have a Sponsor, it may of may not have</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Proceedings. It may or may not have posters on the wall. If it has</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Proceedings at all, they are often late.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> - "Agile" conferences are commonly at found at this end of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> range.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My theory is that quasi-public OST events for and with guilds, industry</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>associations and the like lie somewhere in the middle of these two</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>extremes. And I can certainly imagine (theorize) how these events take on</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the look, feel, tone, temp and flavor of the very private,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>business-org-specific event. They might even effectively BE private events.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It's not like anyone with the fee (if any) can just waltz into the meeting</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>right?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so, for now, I want to set these quasi-public OST events aside, and/or</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>characterize them as private events. Is that OK?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so, referring to (1) and (2) above, I continue to see very huge</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>differences between these two ways to use Open Space.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Like, the difference between Night and Day.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Here's one of those very striking differences: in public-conference events</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>where OST is an add-on in 1/2 or full day formats, getting good Proceedings</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>is difficult. Or impossible. The Proceedings are typically late and poorly</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>formatted, or more commonly: *non-existent.*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yet inside private events, you can't pull the people off the task of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Proceedings creation. The task attracts them like a magnet. They typically</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>wave off any offers of help and take an absolutely huge interest in the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Proceedings generation. They rivet on it.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And this is just one example. There are many more BIG differences. And so</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I continue to assert that for public-conference events where OST is a full</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>day or 1/2 day add-on, a Barcamp or Unconference can and does get</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>equivalent, similar, as-good results.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Stated another way, Barcamp and/or Unconference can never do what Open</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Space does for organizations. And that's because Open Space is optimized</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>for enabling "development and transformation in organizations. "</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And those other two aren't.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>PS I realize some public, paid, Agile conferences that feature all-day</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Open Space do a very good job with Proceedings. Yet this is clearly the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>exception, and not the rule where Agile conferences are concerned.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 10/15/14 11:43 AM, Christine Whitney Sanchez wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel and all,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> In my experience, public events have the same buzz and meaningful</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>results as an in-organization OST. I?ve facilitated a number of them that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>were sponsored by a group of organizations in the community. For instance, Vibrant</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phoenix <<a href="http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/">http://vibrantphx.com/next-actions/top-ideas/</a>>, was a very</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>productive economic development OST, sponsored by two mayors of large</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>municipalities and several local businesses. One of the business sponsors</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>agreed to be the contact for folks who wanted to take their ?actionable</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ideas? to the next level. However, there was no budget and no</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>infrastructure to really keep folks connected the the ideas they cared the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>most about.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> This is where the public open spaces generally fall short. Because the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ongoing action is not the core mission of any of these organizations, it is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>hoped that the participants will self-organize going forward. With very</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>few exceptions, this does not happen. I believe that sponsorship for the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>work after the OST is what is called for.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> The Collective Impact</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work">http://www.ssireview.org/blog/entry/channeling_change_making_collective_impact_work</a>> model</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>speaks to this. It?s nothing new, really, but does represent a simple way</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to talk about the necessary conditions for sustaining collective action. I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>now include my version of this model when I talk with potential sponsors to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>shine the light beyond the meeting so that we can discuss their intentions</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>for providing backbone support for self-organized action going forward.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> I especially love public Open Space events and look forward to working</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>with sponsors who see the meeting as merely the first small step in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>collaborative action. There is so much potential!</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Warm wishes from a sunny autumn morning in the rain-greened desert,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Christine</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Christine Whitney Sanchez, M.C.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Phoenix, AZ, USA ? +1.480.759.0262</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.innovationpartners.com">www.innovationpartners.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Facebook <<a href="https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez">https://www.facebook.com/ChristineWhitneySanchez</a>> | LinkedIn</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez">https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewhitneysanchez</a>> | Twitter</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez">https://twitter.com/CWhitneySanchez</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> On Oct 15, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>');>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Greetings To All,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I notice that there are many big differences between</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>public-conference-type OST events, and OST events arranged for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>organizations.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Do you also notice this? Maybe I am imagining this....just making stuff</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>up...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>...maybe not. In many key dimensions, I experience these differences as</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>striking. Even disturbing.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And so I have been poking around inside the GUIDE (3rd edition) and I</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>notice that, in some spots, the implication is that the discussion is about</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a public event. Up to page 18 for example, this implication is clear:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><THE GUIDE PAGE 18></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Working With The Client if you ARE NOT the Sponsor</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>"To this point I have assumed that you (the reader) will be the sponsor</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>and facilitator of the Open Space, and therefore *it is your decision as</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to whether or not to proceed*...(*emphasis added.*)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></THE GUIDE PAGE 18></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>My current belief is that having the same person in the Sponsor role</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>**and** the Facilitator role is probably a very bad idea for an OST event *inside</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>an organization*. For the typical public-conference event on the other</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>hand, this seems to work just fine. Kinda like a Barcamp or Unconference....</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Another current belief I hold is that OST is the essential tool for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>creating "Development and Transformation in Organizations". It is best</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>suited for use in organizations.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>It is interesting to note how the Barcamp and/or "Unconference" formats</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>seem to get the same or as-good results as Open Space, in the public</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>conference setting.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Not so inside organizations! In fact, as of now, I don't think Barcamp or</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Unconference has any chance whatsoever at being effective in bringing about</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Development and Transformation in Organizations the way Open Space can.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Something about the Sponsor?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>--</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(203) 915 7248 (cell)</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. 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All "all statements" are /positively/ self limiting.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But then if I gather correctly, it's all a joke anyway.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>So from that vantage point... what do we do now?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>*/John Baxter/*</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>/?Co?Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of Realise consultancy/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a> ? <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>> | </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>0405 447 829</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>? | ?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>@jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>/*City Grill? An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any Ever Seen </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au">http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>>!*, Saturday 18 October 2014</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Connect with your candidates, get your voice heard by joining with </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>others in your community, and Influence the future of the city/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>/</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:59 AM, paul levy via OSList </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a> </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Of course ! It's the wonderful irony of "all" statements.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> Paul</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> On 16 Oct 2014, at 22:43, Daniel Mezick via OSList</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Including this one?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> On 10/16/14 2:15 PM, paul levy via OSList wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I'd just venture to add a third to Harrison's first two...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems are self organizing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> And 3. All "all statements" are possibly self-limiting</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Best regards</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Paul Levy</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> On Thursday, 16 October 2014, Harrison Owen via OSList</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> John ? Thank you, Thank you for all the rich stuff! Sort of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> a Tidal Wave, but that?s when it gets fun, albeit a tad</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> difficult to keep track of the sundry bits and pieces J</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Picking Just One: ?But I can't get past the feeling that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> /there are lots of barriers to the openness of space, and to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> self organisation/.? Absolutely. And if we were to put that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> into the language of the trade (Complexity Theorists and the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> like) we would be talking about ?system constraints.? But as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I understand it, that does not mean that Self Organization</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> is no longer operative. And in fact the System Constraints</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> are part and parcel of the process, a very important part. I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> think it goes something like this ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I have found myself coming to two conclusions, or better</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> yet observations. 1) All Systems are Open. 2) All Systems</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> are self organizing.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> As Open Systems, we, in all permutations of our ?us-ness? ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> businesses, countries, families, planets, etc) are open to,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> and impacted by, all other systems. Sometimes a lot, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> sometimes a little, but in our cosmos there is no safe,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> protected place. Everything is related to everything else,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> and we are no exception. If true, this has a number of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> implications. First of all the environment in which we exist</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> is so complex, fast moving and inter-connected we can?t even</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> think at that level. Secondly, what you can?t even think</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> about, you can?t control. So the notion that somebody is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> actually ?in charge/in control? is not just a silly idea, it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> is delusional. 3) System preservation/growth depends on our</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ability to navigate this environment. And it is a good</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> news/bad news situation. Sometimes the impacts drive us in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> new and creative directions, and open up new opportunities</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> which are ours if we respond appropriately. At other times</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the impacts drive us to the wall, and it?s Game over.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Another word is Death. If this story is in any ways valid,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> it would seem like Mission Impossible. And yet this story</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> has seemingly been going on for 13.7 Billion years and we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> are still here to complain about it. How could that be?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> All Systems are Self Organizing ? Self Organization is in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> fact the mechanism whereby we navigate the environment, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> all systems do it, I think. And when they stop doing it,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> they disappear. Self Organization is not the product of some</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> CEO or executive committee. After all, they really haven?t</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> been around for all that long. Self Organization is the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> product of the total system in all of its aspects and bits</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> and pieces. How all that works has been a matter of stunning</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> discovery over the past 40 years or so. I doubt we have it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> all right, but I do think we may have the major elements of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> understanding in place. The outline goes something like this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ? a) Steady State b) Chaos c) A bifurcation to either</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> dissipation (poof) or reconstitution at new and higher</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> levels of order. Of course you have to fill in a lot of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> blanks, and there is a massive literature attempting to do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> just that. But I do believe we have enough to get started</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> with some basic observations. It really is a Whole System</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> affair, in which all elements must work together, and no</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> element has an /a priori/ claim to centrality. In a business</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> this could mean that the dumb question of an intern could</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> just open the doors for the future. You just don?t know. But</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> you do know that an organization?s future directly relates</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> to its capacity to bring total system assets to bear on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> emergent challenges and opportunities quickly and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> effectively. It is always tempting to try and ?hedge the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> bet? with some plan, policy or procedure, but it worthwhile</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> noting that the tighter (more constraining) the plan, the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> greater the likelihood of failure. It?s not that the plan</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> was bad... but unfortunately the challenge or opportunity</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> came from a different direction, and all our eggs were in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> one basket ? the wrong one.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> So we have a very existential question ? How do we assure</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> sufficient room (dare I say Space?) so that the infinite</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> elements of any organization may quickly and effectively</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> align to meet new challenges and opportunities ? recognizing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> in advance that we can never know what will be required?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Open Space Technology is just a bit player in all of this,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> but good old OST can be useful none the less both as a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> natural laboratory to explore what is going on, and also as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> an effective intervention to encourage the appearance of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> elemental power of self organization, particularly when it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> seems blocked and constrained. There are no guarantees of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> course, and it may well be that The Organization?s time is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> now: Game Over. But the chances of renewal are pretty good,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> at least that has been my experience. And no matter what,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the magic sauce is not OST ? but the power of self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> organization. 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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I have knots about empowerment, and the ubiquitous openness</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> of space. These knots are about to inspire a rant.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> These knots, I should start with, are not entirely the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> result of this present discussion thread - it is just this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> discussion that prompts me to speak.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I think I understand Harrison, if you suggest that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> self-organisation is more common than we realise... if not</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ubiquitous, omnipresent, then at least that we can</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> fruitfully challenge the assumption that formal and top-down</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> organisation dominates how things get done.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> But I can't get past the feeling that /there are lots of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> barriers to the openness of space, and to self</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> organisation/. Everywhere and all the time. In my recent</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> work, mental barriers by all involved about authority and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> role relationships. My personal barriers around trying too</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> hard to "empower". My client's patronising assumptions</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> about the "capacity" and "maturity" of "the sector".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Information asymmetries.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> So I get really conflicted when anyone starts saying "well</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> space is open all the time" (implication: 'so chill out cos</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> there's nothing you need to do').</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I am also conflicted about stepping back from the goal of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> empowerment, as if everybody else needs to just step into</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> open space and take responsibility.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Yes - many people don't realise the power that they have.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> (In my last project; nobody seemed to quite buy into the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> fact that /they could directly author the document that they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> were trying to influence/.)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> But it is also patronising to suggest that empowerment lies</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> in just helping people to see how powerful they are...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> because many people /don't/ have the power that we or they</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> might like. To suggest that people have the power and just</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> don't use it... that effectively blames them for their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> situation, and washes our hands of responsibility.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> The biggest barrier to group change I see time and time</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> again is authority figures who believe others need to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> change, not themselves. (Most commonly, that their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> employees need to "be empowered", and that they need to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> manage a culture change program to get there... or better</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> yet, that HR needs to manage the change program, while we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> are busy getting the real work done.)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I don't pretend that empowerment is something that can be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> done to other people (patronising), but I do firmly believe</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> that we all first need to look to ourselves and what we need</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> to do to play our role making such a future possible. And,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> in fact, that /this is all that we can ever do/.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Maybe the wisdom in what you say Harrison is that we do this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> by focusing on respect first, as a productive way to enable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> empowerment.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Maybe I am picking on the wrong things and have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> misunderstood them, and I apologise if I have been</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> critical. But I also see a lot of things said that make me</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> uncomfortable, that knot me up. Again, most of these things</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> are from my memory, not the present discussion. While my</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> memory might not be the best, I'm sure it is based on something.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Thank you all for your patience and for being in this discussion</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> */John Baxter/*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> /?//Co//?//Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Realise consultancy/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a>?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>> | <a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 0405 447 829 <tel:0405%20447%20829></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ? | ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> @jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> */City Grill? An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Ever Seen <<a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au">http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>>!/*/, Saturday</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 18 October 2014</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Connect with your candidates, get your voice heard by</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> joining with others in your community, and Influence the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> future of the city/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Harrison Owen</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="mailto:hhowen at verizon.net">hhowen at verizon.net</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> John -- I?m rather curious what you meant by ?The overall</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> project was more complicated than OST?? My confusion comes</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> in part from my experience that complexity is actually an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> essential precondition for OST, or more exactly the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> effective operation of self organization. The essential</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> pre-conditions as I have experienced the are: A Real</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> business issue (something that people really care about).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> High levels of complexity such that no single person or</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> group has a prayer of figuring it out. High levels of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> diversity in terms of people and points of view. Lots of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> passion and conflict. And a decision time of yesterday</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> (urgency). Given these 5 conditions, self organization in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the more formal setting of OST or as a natural occurrence</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> just seems to happen... unless...And this may be the point</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> of problem... It is arbitrarily constrained... which usually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> means that somebody already has the plan/program/design and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> they are just looking for buy-in or (worst case) they are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> simply trying to sugar coat the pill, and make it seem like</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the folks are creating something, when in fact the cake is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> already baked.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> A clue to the dilemma may be in the phrase, ?I struggled to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> help the client (the funding body) to really 'empower'...? I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> know we talk a lot about empowerment, but I have come to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> conclusion that it is really a red herring, and most</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> painfully so in those situations where you actually try to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> do it. Sounds odd, I guess, but think about it. If I empower</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> you...you are in my power. And the more I try to empower you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the worse it gets. Real empowerment, in my book, is not an</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> act that we (or somebody) do, but an acknowledgement of a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> pre-existing condition...you are powerful. Of course I might</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> encourage you a bit to be as powerful as you are, but it is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> not something I can give you. You must claim it for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> yourself. Strange as it may seem, I find the notion of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ?empowerment? to be just the opposite of that fundament of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> effective working relationships (or any relationship)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> RESPECT. And I suspect that it is precisely here that the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> fickle finger of fate is pointing to the critical issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Another word that fits in here for me is ?Patronizing.?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Everything may sound super nice, and all the proper and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> correct words may be spoken, but if the implication is that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the folks (participants) really do not have the competence</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> or ability to deal with the issues, it is fairly predictable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> that they will not bother to try. 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type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Hi Daniel. Thanks for your considered response.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I will try to keep my response in line with the topic....</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> but expect it may meander.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> The OST day I was preparing for has since come and gone.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I decided in the end to least give OST a crack and see what</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> happened.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> It didn't go very well; but it also went well enough (vis</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> overall project goals, and client expectations), so I don't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> feel so bad about it... even if I had personally envisaged more.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I am not one to worry about the cannon... which means</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> sometimes I break things, as I did this time. There was</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> still an (informal) sponsor, the one that sent the invites. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> They just did not have a presence on the day. Thank you</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Daniel as you did make me think critically about the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> strength of my role as host. I think I dealt with that</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> through my introduction to the day; and as it turns out the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> authority to host was not an issue.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> But as it turns out, that was not really the biggest challenge!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> The main lessons I took away about what contributed to the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> average result:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> *There needs to be clear, compelling shared work.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> The overall project was more complicated than OST, so it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> wasn't clear what turning up actually meant, and I think</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> many did not turn up on the basis of wanting to resolve a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> shared challenge (the work), as you might expect for OST. </span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> In straight OST terms, you could say this was an issue of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> invitation, but really it was many things.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> So the group was interesting. They had the heart, but not</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the will. They were committed, but without ownership of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> result. I've seen this a lot in the community engagement</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> field, but nowhere that I have used (or seen) OST.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I thought about this a lot, I thought it might have been</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> about the invitation and self-selection; but at the end of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the day I think it comes down to the sense of (and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> invitation in to) shared work.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> *It is super hard to dissolve ingrained power and authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> relationships in the short term. These can't be sidestepped</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> by an external facilitator.*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I struggled to help the client (the funding body) to really</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 'empower'. They talked about it and genuinely want to, but</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> old habits and mental models don't change overnight. They</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> really struggled to push beyond managing the process as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> superiours (to a set of subordinate participants). This is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 'empowerment' within a patriarchal system, and it doesn't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> work. It felt very yucky at times.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> A curious side effect of this partriarchal 'empowerment' was</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> an unwillingness to be clear about the work ("we want to be</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> open and let them lead the process" they would say... I got</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the client to agree that /the/y were clearly the leaders,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> but we didn't quite work out how to put that into practice).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Over the course of the engagement, we all took baby steps</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> together that invest in their (/our) capacity to really work</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> together in future. They learned a LOT in a short period of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> time, and so did I, but it was too short. By the end of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> project I had the client calling me up to ask how they could</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> reword things so they didn't reflect a control response. : )</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> That was good, but obviously if they need me for this then</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> there is some way to go. And different client reps had</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> different levels of self reflection.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Hosting an isolated OST workshop against this grain was very</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ambitious, it was always going to be, no matter how we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> conducted ourselves.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> And perhaps 20% were very proactive, and led the bulk of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> work that occurred... they saved the day!</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> But the length of the OST was not enough for this leadership</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> to really be contagious and precipitate a productive culture.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> *Or in other words: we struggled to free up authorisation to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> be more dynamic*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Reading your blog post Daniel, the idea of dynamic</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> authorisation would have been very useful earlier in the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> project. Another way of looking at the project: we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> struggled to free the space of ingrained authority to enable</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> dynamic authorisation.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> There were lots of other insights into how we could have</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> done it differently, but to me these were the fundamental</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> stumbling blocks for us.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Still, they were not too big, and I'm pleased we made a good</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> start.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> My favourite feedback was "thank you, this was the first</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> time I have been part of genuine engagement in more than a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> decade in the sector" : )</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Next time, we will do better.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> */John Baxter/*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> /?//Co//?//Create Adelaide Facilitator, Director of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Realise consultancy/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://CoCreateADL.com">CoCreateADL.com</a>?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B">http://cocreateadl.com/localgov%E2%80%8B</a>> | <a href="http://jsbaxter.com.au">jsbaxter.com.au</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/">http://www.jsbaxter.com.au/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 0405 447 829 <tel:0405%20447%20829></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ? | ?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> @jsbaxter_ <<a href="http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_">http://twitter.com/jsbaxter_</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> */City Grill? An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Ever Seen <<a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au">http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>>!/*/, Saturday</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 18 October 2014</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Connect with your candidates, get your voice heard by</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> joining with others in your community, and Influence the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> future of the city/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Daniel Mezick</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="mailto:dan at newtechusa.net">dan at newtechusa.net</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Hi John,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Yours is a very interesting story.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> You say:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> /"...To be honest*I am not sure* how I need to deal with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> this, though *my strategy is to accept the authority* for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> hosting the space in the next workshop, *obsolving the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> department of their responsibility* to manage the day."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> "...I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> candidates hosting something genuinely participatory. *The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> relevant director has said she doesn't want to speak</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> formally and become The Authority for the day*, a position I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> agree with."/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> In the situation as described, it sounds like the org is the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> very earliest stages of moving in a direction of more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> open/participatory/inviting.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Do you agree with this assessment?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> If this assessment is correct, based on what you describe, I</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> would probably avoid attempting Open Space in the canonical</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> form whatsoever (as described in the OST GUIDE) because the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Sponsor role is vacant. Unoccupied. And so, by my reckoning,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> if I understand you right, a true Open Space event isn't</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> even possible, because the essential OST-Sponsor-role is in</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> fact not willingly occupied by anyone with enough authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> to play that essential role well.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> What's clear is that someone who could function as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> OST-Sponsor is currently unwilling to do so. And so I might</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> try a "taster" or "demo" event instead, where the goal is to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> /learn about Open Space in general/, and do a /little/ bit</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> of "real" work too. Especially if the allotted time a mere</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> 1/2 day, I am even more inclined to strongly favor this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> re-framing of the stated goals.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> So the primary and stated goal for the "taster" is learning</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> about OST. Another goal for a short event might be to see</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> who shows up super-interested in the art of Facilitation,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> and then offer to mentor those who do self-select by showing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> interest. In this manner some Facilitation capacity is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> developed inside the org, to help with current meetings and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> processes. Introducing Facilitation into typical meetings is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> a easy and effective "culture hack".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> For me, the total unwillingness of an obvious candidate to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> occupy the Sponsor role is a huge warning signal to slow</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> down, pause, or even stop.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Lots of people here have more experience than me, and might</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> be willing to lend you some of their expertise regarding the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> authority dynamics of Facilitating an OST event with the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> essential OST-Sponsor-role completely vacant</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Kind Regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> On 9/28/14 11:30 PM, John Baxter wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I am navigating some challenging authority dynamics in a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> project at the moment.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I was brought in a week out from the first of three</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> forums, and asked to 'facilitate a codesign process'</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> which was at that stage a black box (with many hidden</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> expectations) scheduled into that event (1 hour before</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> lunch and 1 hour afterwards).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> It's a long journey, but you can imagine how my role has</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> changed as I prepare for the third forum which I am</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> hosting in Open Space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> The overall process is an engagement between a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> government department and their funded agencies. The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> most obvious direct power dynamics are obvious, the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> effective power and authority dynamics are much more</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> complex (though predictable).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Department staff have authority challenges as much as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the agencies. They are trying so hard to be 'neutral'</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> and 'non controlling' that they are effectively</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> reinforcing their own authority positions (which often</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> have little real correlation to the power, knowledge etc</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> that they imagine them to).</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> To be honest I am not sure how I need to deal with this,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> though my strategy is to accept the authority for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> hosting the space in the next workshop, obsolving the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> department of their responsibility to manage the day.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> It has been interesting to watch push back so far from</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> agency reps who are committed to participating, who are</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> genuinely engaged, but are playing to an us-them tension</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> that is getting in the way of the shared work (and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> serves them no good ends except protecting them from</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> their own responsibility). Stand-offishness is gradually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> being resolved, though some pockets are holding firm.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I am crossing my fingers for WS3 that we can traverse</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> these and get into Open Space without being pushed off</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the bridge by the reactionary tension; and that once on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the other side, the department reps can embrace Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Space and take responsibility for their role.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> We will get across /as long as I have the authority/ to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> host the space for them.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I don't think it is feasible for the obvious authority</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> candidates hosting something genuinely participatory.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> The relevant director has said she doesn't want to speak</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> formally and become The Authority for the day, a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> position I agree with.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> But it does leave something of a shell, where I am</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> crossing my fingers that our time together thus far</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> affords me the authority to host that space.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> I think we are ready. I am bringing my harness and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> floaties just in case.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> */John Baxter/*</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> /? 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An Election Forum More Magnificent Than Any</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Ever Seen <<a href="http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au">http://citygrill.eventbrite.com.au</a>>/,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Saturday 18 October 2014</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Influence your city by building relationships and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> joining voices with others in your community</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Daniel Mezick via</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> OSList <<a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Hi Harrison,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> So interesting how the Law of 2 Feet authorizes me, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> every other member of an OST event, to go anywhere we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> may want to go.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Without asking anyone else for any kind of "permission"...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Reminds me of this past June, being in Camden with you,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> and Ethelyn, and Harold, and friends... when we were</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> standing on the porch of that Camden restaurant...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> waiting for everyone to arrive, and assemble for dinner...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> And as we wait, I notice there is this</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> convenient-looking, alternate entry-door... into the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> dining area.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> And I say: "Hmm...I wonder if we are authorized to use</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> that door."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> And you say:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> "We're authorized to go Anywhere we want to go."</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> ...and I like that.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Picture of that place:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161">https://twitter.com/DanielMezick/status/483054326265692161</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> See also:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360">https://twitter.com/danielgullo/status/483434622009999360</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <mime-attachment.png></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> On 9/25/14 4:58 PM, Harrison Owen wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Daniel... You really did it! I think. Your language</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> comes from a place I don?t know... which is to say</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> that I probably wouldn?t say what you say in the way</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> that you do (duh). BUT when I run my ?translator? it</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> comes out sounding pretty good! So... I can?t help</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> with the questions you have raised. Actually I think</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> you are doing pretty well on your own, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> (hopefully) will incite others to a similarly</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> riotous performance. 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lists.openspacetech.org">mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org</a>] *On</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Behalf Of *Daniel Mezick via OSList</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2014 9:39 AM</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> *To:* <a href="mailto:oslist at lists.openspacetech.org">oslist at lists.openspacetech.org</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> *Subject:* [OSList] Authority Distribution in Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Greetings to All,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> For the past several years I have attended</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> conferences of the Group Relations community, and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> encouraged others to do the same. I've studied their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> literature, and harvested some important learning as</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> a result. One of the things I have come to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> understand a little bit better is the role of</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> "authority dynamics" in self-organizing social systems.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Link:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://www.akriceinstitute.org">www.akriceinstitute.org</a> <<a href="http://www.akriceinstitute.org">http://www.akriceinstitute.org</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Over the past several years I've been using Open</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Space with intent to improve the results of my work</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> in helping companies implement Agile ideas in their</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> organizations. We do an initial Open Space, then the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> folks get about 3 months to play with Agile (we</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> carefully use the word "experimentation" with</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> management,) then we do another Open Space after</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> that, to inspect what just happened across the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> enterprise. The initial and subsequent Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> events form a "safe" container or field in which the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> members can /learn/... as they explore how to</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> /improve/ together by /experimenting/ with new</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> practices, and see if they actually work. I call the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> process Open Agile Adoption.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Link:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://OpenAgileAdoption.com">OpenAgileAdoption.com</a> <<a href="http://OpenAgileAdoption.com">http://OpenAgileAdoption.com</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> This seems to work pretty good. It seems to "take</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the air out of" most of the fear, most of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> anxiety and most of the worry that is created. The</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> key aspect is /consent/: absolutely no one is forced</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> to do anything they are unwilling to do. No one is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> /coerced/ to /comply/. Everyone is instead</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> respectfully /invited/ to help /write/ the story,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> and be a /character/ in the story...of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> contemplated process change. Open Agile Adoption</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> encourages a spirit of experimentation and play.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> The spirit of Open Space is the spirit of freedom.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Isn't it? In the OST community, we discuss and talk</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> a lot about self-organization, self-management and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> self-governance. The Agile community also talks</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> about these ideas a lot.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> So I have some questions. What is really going on</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> during self-organization in a social system? What</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> are the steps? What information is being sent and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> received? >From whom, and by whom? Is the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> information about /authority/ important? How</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> important? Can a social system self organize without</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> regard to who has the right to do what work? /How do</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> decisions that affect others get made in a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> self-organizing system?/</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Who decides about /who decides/? How important is</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> the process of /authorization/ in a self-organizing</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> system? Is self-organization in large part the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> process of dynamic authorization (and</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> /de-authorization/) in real time?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> What /is /authorization? Can self-organization occur</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> without the sending and receiving of authorization</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> data by and between the members?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Is Bruce Tuckman's</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> forming/storming/performing/adjourning actually</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> decomposing the /dynamics of authorization/ inside a</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> social system?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> The essay below attempts to answer some of these</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> difficult questions. I'd love your thoughts on it.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Will you give it a look?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Essay: Authority Distribution in Open Space</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <a href="http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/">http://newtechusa.net/agile/authority-distribution-in-open-space/</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Kind Regards,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Daniel</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> -- </span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Examine my new book:The Culture Game</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> for the Agile Manager.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Explore Agile Team Training</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> and Coaching.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Explore the Agile Boston</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/">http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/</a>>Community.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> -- </span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Daniel Mezick, President</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> New Technology Solutions Inc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> (203) 915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Examine my new book: The Culture Game</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Tools for the Agile Manager.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Explore Agile Team Training</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-training/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> and Coaching.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/">http://newtechusa.net/services/agile-scrum-coaching/</a>></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Explore the Agile Boston</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/">http://newtechusa.net/user-groups/ma/</a>>Community.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> _______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> OSList mailing 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Blog</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/blog/">http://newtechusa.net/blog/</a>>. Twitter</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/">http://twitter.com/#%21/danmezick/</a>>.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Examine my new book: The Culture Game</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/">http://newtechusa.net/about/the-culture-game-book/</a>>: Tools</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> for the Agile Manager.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote 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915 7248 <tel:%28203%29%20915%207248> (cell)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> Bio <<a href="http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/">http://newtechusa.net/dan-mezick/</a>>. 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