[OSList] About time and napping

chris.corrigan at gmail.com chris.corrigan at gmail.com
Thu Jul 10 09:27:03 PDT 2014


Just woke up and saw this conversation.

I think it’s no surprise in my life that two of the most influential teachers I have ever had _Harrison Owen and Toke Moeller- are also master nappers.  That seems an essential skill for this work.  

Napping appears to be a luxury or an expression of laziness.  But it is not at all.  It is an act of incredible kindness to a group to renew one’s energy when one can in order to be of service when energy is required.  To appear busy for the sake of being busy is the the latest affectation of people who need to be seen to be “productive” in every moment.  But all living things grown and participate throug the rhythms of rest and exertion.  There is a time for one and a time for the other, and if it is all in service of the group and the greater good, then it is a kind and generaous thing to do.

This worldview and practice would do well to be adopted in northern North America and northern Europe before we become in danger of the “productivity at all costs” mindset becoming the way of the world.

Chris


On Jul 9, 2014, at 7:19 PM, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com> wrote:

> Hello again on the very interesting topic of naps...once I was in a three day training this was a Saturday during the meal time or lunch some people started saying things like " I wish I could rest in my bed" or I feel so sleappy after eating, etc so when we came back to the place I told the this : We have half an hour to do exactly what we decide to do. Some participants sayed they wanted a meditation, we started that meditation ...for me it war nap time. I slept for 20 minutes and I was so happy this was the first time that I had a group that was able to be so honest and congruent regarding their needs.
> My mother is very good at falling asleep VERY fast! She can take  9 minutes naps and she asked me to wake her up and she asked me please wake me up again in 5 minutes and she would go back to sleep as soon as she finished the sentence. Amassing!
> And she wakes up also in seconds,  she is really a special case!
> Adriana
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> 2014-07-09 11:44 GMT-04:00 Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>:
> This discussion about napping is definitely getting out of hand...to say nothing of control! As one who has taken no small amount of abuse over the years in regard to my proclivity for supination, I am simply delighted to see so many closet supinators coming out. “Supination,” by the way, is a word I made up ( I think). As you probably know, to be “supine” is to lie down, and that is the normal position of nappers – hence supination, supinator, supinated, etc. It is a great cover word, so you don’t give away the secret! And every arcane practice MUST have its secret nomenclature.
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> I confess that I supinate primarily for one reason: It feels good. Never according to plan, but always in response to need and situation. I have a sign in my office that says, “No day is so bad that it can’t be improved with a nap.” True! I find it also helps me to pace my energy expenditure. In fact I find that the critical time for a good supination is when I am over the top busy. It restores a sense of flow, purpose and presence. It also reminds me that I am really not essential. The world will turn all by itself J
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> In the special situation of facilitating an Open Space, supination has a special value, I think. The supination of the facilitator say in ways that nothing else can – that The People are in Charge. Really, they do it all by themselves. And the fact that nobody ever really notices that I am absent drives the point home. Folks, It is your thing!
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> So Supinate to your heart’s content – it will fix up just about anything, I find.
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> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Tenneson Woolf
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> Ah..., who is the stroller for Toke?
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> On Jul 9, 2014, at 2:54 AM, Toke Paludan Møller wrote:
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> Hi friends of napping and open spaces
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> What an important sharing going on here….
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> I too find it useful and kind to my self and others to nap at a good timing and an appropriate place during days of work and days of resting both - whenever possible.
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> My mother was a great teacher of this very human practice - she napped every day of her life between 20 minutes to 1 hour - and she lived until she was 94.
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> I became a practitioner early on and although I have wavered in my dedication during some years of getting too busy -  I am returning to the practice and enjoyment with very good fruits
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> - similar to what you have all described….
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> We had an one our intentional and collective napping during a Open space day at the warrior of the heart dojo in Croatia in 2012 - where 4 generation napped on the lawn together
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>  - it brought more consciousness and ease to the harvest of new understanding and wiser action steps.
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> Cheers to the art of napping!
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> have a good summer with lots of napping going on
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> Intergenerational napping practice yesterday in the Danish woods….
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> Toke Paludan Moeller
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> On 09/07/2014, at 10.02, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi Artur, Harrison, Spark, Adriana and you other nappers out there,
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> tell me what works for you around napping: time of day, length, space, light, naked, clothed... I have been experimenting (trying a regular rhythm or when I feel I need a nap, short such as 15 minutes and up to an hour, setting a timer or leave it to whenever I wake up...) and its not really working for me, yet!
> While I hate to admit it, it annoys me when people grin or joke about my napping attempts.
> In my os work, I have taken naps. Once I did it in a semi-public space and was rudely attacked by a participant: How dare you take a nap when things are really chaotic here! After that I chose out-of-sight spaces.
> When I take a nap while a soccer game is going on (in Germany its serious business and everyone is off their whatever after the game last nite) I dont tell anyone!!
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> I would not bother you but since it seems to be such an essential activity I thought I dare, its been an important issue for me!
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> Have a nap-rich day
> Greetings from Berlin
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> On 09.07.2014 00:09, Harrison Owen wrote:
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> Thank you Artur! One of the few things I am absolutely positive about!
> Naps are essential!!!
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