[OSList] Open Space videos

Sat Jan 18 19:33:56 PST 2014

Thank you for your advises an ideas. I  have now more experience after this
situation.
I did not have a clear agreement with this association concerning this
video since the begining.  I will remove it from my site and learn from
this case.
Adriana

2014/1/18 Lisa Heft - <lisaheft at openingspace.net>

> Adriana - I know you are thoughtful and ethical. It is both thoughtful and
> ethical to have an agreement about permission for the use of other peoples'
> faces and quotes before any face-to-face documentation. And good practice
> would say the same may be true for virtual conversations.
>
> So in any dialogue / group setting I start by saying I am taking photos
> (for x use), others may as well, and if any participant does not want to be
> in these photos I respect both their choice and their responsibility to
> walk up to any of us taking photos to request they not be included. Same is
> true for anyone doing audio or video recording. I also say that in this
> electronic age, we can each have intention to only use (for example) a
> digital photo or video in a certain way, but people we know and do not know
> can often cut-and-paste from an original source and use it in ways that are
> not sourced (attributed / named) or used in original context. Just as an
> awareness. I look around the group and say 'may we all agree to x?' - and
> then we move on.
>
> In a client situation, we always discuss this in advance - during the
> pre-work - as documentation is always part of whatever dialogue work I do,
> whatever the process. We have an agreement whether both
> print-electronic-whatever discussion documentation -and- visual imagery can
> be used by both parties and in what circumstances they can be used. For
> example I always get permission to have a final draft Book of Proceedings
> for my own archives, and then we also get into very specific wording
> (depends on the client) about whether I can use a printed version of their
> Book of Proceedings in a workshop / educational setting - or not. Whether I
> can use digital photos taken for documentation (by them or by me) on my
> website - or not - and usually they ask to see which ones in case there is
> someone in that photo they know has requested no photos.
>
> It is all very manageable and easy but I think is very respectful to let
> people (or a hosting organization for a group event) know in advance how
> their words and likenesses may be used, and to ask for permission and give
> credit wherever possible. Even if you paid for the images.
>
> So this can be handled very easily at a live event by either clarity with
> the client before the event that they speak on behalf of their organization
> (therefore no individual people's permission required) or as Dan says -
> registration - or a piece of paper they sign as they arrive - clearly
> saying that their signing (or registration) gives consent.
>
> Adriana - perhaps they may give permission to use certain parts of what
> you recorded on your website - as one of my clients has done. Not the full
> body of documentation, but certain parts of it...
>
> Lisa
>
>
>
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> *On Behalf Of *Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:52 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Open Space videos
>
>
>
> ...  I have a question for this group.It is about OS video ownership and
> use.
>
>  I facilitate an OS in april 2013 and my client was not interested in
> having a video of this OS but I was, so I ask their permission to make this
> video. But I did not ask permission to put it on mi web site. After they
> told me I have to remove it from there because  they did not agree and
> because more than a 100 people are there and we did not asked their
> permission to film.them. But they saw the camara man (women) filming an
> nobody said they don accept to be filmed.
>
> The have told me to remove it but the reasons don't seem clear to me at
> all. What is the correct way to use OS videos according to your experiences?
>
> by the way, I payed it, of course and I did not charge for the preparation
> of this OS I only charged the 2 days that I was  there...
>
> and this is delicate because I am a member of the association that decided
> to do this OS.
>
> The video can be seen at www.diazberrio.com
>
> Thank you very much for telleing me about how I could do next time or how
> can I do now i think this question is important for other people also.
>
> Adriana
>
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Adriana Díaz-Berrio Ph.D. CRHA
(514) 739 2268
www.diazberrio.com
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