[OSList] Self Organizing vs. Physics & Entropy... Who wins?

Wed Feb 12 06:30:11 PST 2014

It wasn¹t until a couple of years ago that I was introduced to syntropy 
the pull of life. I had found entropy to be depressing, but had accepted it.
Funny, how it had not occurred to me that both/and is part of life.

Then I listened to the webinar sponsored by the International Consciousness
Research Lab (formerly PEAR with their 30 years of consciousness research,
where the Global Consciousness Project birthed.) http://www.icrl.org

Antonella Vannini and Ulisses di Corpo  introduced us to "Syntropy: The
Energy of Love². (It may still be on the ICRL web site.) Antonella and
Ulisses agreed to join us in an action research project to demonstrate how
love can transform a community. In our case, St Petersburg FL.

If you would like to join me and The Connection Partners down this rabbit
hole, check out http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/
http://noosphere.princeton.edu/  http://www.psyleron.com

One of our fellow explorers is taking a course in Sacred Economics at Unity
of Tampa. They spent a session on syntropy. Here¹s what Sigrid shared:

"This is the incredible we powerpoint I mentioned:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDA836rOW00&feature=youtu.be

"The discussion about the heart being the center of the consciousness in the
body: Ulisse Di Corpo and Antonella Vannini - West and East: Entropy versus
Syntropy? <http://www.lifeenergyscience.it/english/2013-eng-3-07.pdf>

"And the journal that has all these incredible articles:
http://www.sintropia.it/journal.htm"

We have found these explorations too much fun to miss.

Besides, indicators are that are theories are working. We live in a
Œterritory' filled with flow and synchronicity. We even find that this field
of love (we call it the heart field) travels with us, so they keep showing
up everywhere.

You don¹t have to wait for the fair to go on wild rides!

Who wants to play?

Happy Valentine¹s Day!

Sharon Joy Kleitsch
The Connection Partners, Inc
    -  linking people, resources and ideas
St Petersburg FL 33701
Kleitsch at verizon.net
727-550-9660

From:  John Watkins <johnw536 at mac.com>
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Date:  Wednesday, February 12, 2014 at 12:45 AM
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Subject:  Re: [OSList] Self Organizing vs. Physics & Entropy... Who wins?

Lucas,

This is a great question you raise!  It seems that our universe operates by
several intriguing principles.  In general, it seems to be true that overall
entropy increases (but I think the final conclusions on that one are still
not available to us).  But the strange and really cool thing is, it does so
by increasing order in some sub-systems.  So, the big bang happens, and if
entropy were the total picture, we would never have had any matter at all.
All that energy would merely have dissipated into all that expanding space.
But something happened that caused the swirls of chaotic energy to begin to
coalesce into sub atomic particles, then particles, then atoms, then
molecules, then stars and eventually planets and life and us.  It seems that
inherent in chaos is the emergence of patterns that result in orders, and
orders then recursively develop themselves into complexity.  One of the
coolest things is the way that established patterns become autopoietic, that
is, they take in energy, sort the energy into that which helps them recreate
themselves at a higher level of organization, and then they excrete the rest
of the energy back into the broader system.  That is one definition of
entropy, but the intriguing thing is that the excreted energy does not just
go all random; it actually gets used in the emergence of other new orders.
So.  Classical thermodynamics does explain all this, but it does so without
recourse to complexity theory.  Complexity theory helps us understand how
new orders emerge from open systems in far from equilibrium states.  I take
Open Space to be one of those sorts of far from equilibrium states settings
for the emergence of new orders.

John

On Feb 11, 2014, at 8:19 PM, Lucas Cioffi wrote:

> Hi All, 
> 
> I read that "Open Space works because self-organization works."  But I
> remember from physics class that disorder (entropy) in the Universe is always
> increasing, so when the order of something increases (such as during OS), the
> order of something else must decrease.
> 
> Paraphrased from Wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy> :
> "The second law of thermodynamics states that in general the total entropy of
> any system (the disorder, randomness, or our lack of information about it)
> will not decrease other than by increasing the entropy of some other system."
> 
> So when participants organize themselves during Open Space does something else
> become disorganized?  Or is it that all the disorder created (by consuming the
> muffins, coffee, fuel, paper, electricity, etc) always outweighed by the order
> created by the self-organization?
> 
> For what it's worth, below is an interesting thread I found from the list
> archives from a few years ago that mentions entropy...
> 
> Lucas Cioffi
> Charlottesville, VA
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: John Watkins <johnw536 at mac.com>
> Date: Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 12:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] Designing an OS way
> To: Artur Silva <arturfsilva at yahoo.com>, World wide Open Space Technology
> email list <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Cc: "76066.515 at compuserve.com" <76066.515 at compuserve.com>
> 
> 
> Artur,
> 
> The term "open systems" comes from thermodynamics, especially from Prigogine
> and Stengers, who also refer to them as "dissipative" systems.  It does not
> mean open to change; it means open in the sense of importing "energy" from
> outside itself and excreting "energy" back into the surrounding system.  Such
> systems are most often self-organizing and self-recreating (autopoiesis).
> They "sort" energy into that which will help them recreate themselves and that
> which will not, and they dissipate the rest, creating, paradoxically,
> internally order and externally more entropy.  Bureaucracies are actually
> great examples of open systems in this regard.
> 
> John
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