[OSList] Speech acts
Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring
adriana at diazberrio.com
Sun Oct 27 16:32:05 PDT 2013
MIchael: Thany you I will contact Dan to ask him about all this visit.
Adriana
2013/10/27 Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> Dear Adriana,
> I just had a look at the little map that Dan included in his mail with
> the subject line "Quebec City by the way of Sherbrooke" and it seemed to
> me that Drummondville might be closest place to Montreal AND Annick
> Corriveau lives in Drummondville, she is on the world map, look here
>
>> http://www.openspaceworldmap.**org/moreinfo/businesscard.php?**
>> p_id=728&country_name=Canada&**c_id=34<http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/moreinfo/businesscard.php?p_id=728&country_name=Canada&c_id=34>
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>
> she probably knows the best place to meet in Drummondville and who
> knows, wants to join you and Dan. A little Stammtisch.
> In case you meet Dan on his trip in Drummondville, I would love to hear
> about it.
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> On 27.10.2013 05:17, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring wrote:
>
>> Micheal: DO you mean Drummondville in Quebec or is it another place
>> called like this?
>> Adriana
>>
>>
>> 2013/10/26 Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com
>> <mailto:mmpannwitz at gmail.com>>
>>
>> This puzzled me and still puzzles me: The notion that we open space.
>> I always stumble over it when I hear someone saying that. Why is
>> that done?
>> In my frame, I just call it: I make an introduction.
>> And sometimes I say: The sponsor opens the space (does a 3-Minute
>> whatever) and then introduces me to the crowd, best by saying: and
>> here is Michael.
>> I did this once when I was sponsor and introduced Harrison as
>> facilitator by saying "And here is Harrison" and sat down. It dawned
>> on him in about 3 seconds that he was on.
>> The role of the facilitator, another grand question for Utrecht.
>> And all of you who find it too far away: This is actually the reason
>> why we do the European OSonOS in the years when WOSonOS is simply
>> too far away for some... and for some years now for me, too.
>> So next year, when it is in Belgrade, there will be no "European"
>> OSonOS... hold it, be prepared to be surprised.
>>
>> Love that invitation that Dan extended... Drummondville seems a real
>> possibility.
>>
>> cheers
>> mmp
>>
>> On 26.10.2013 20:26, Harrison Owen wrote:
>>
>> Dan you are totally correct. The sentence structure is a mess. I
>> knew
>> that when I said it, and said it intentionally... to make a point:
>> “Opening” an OST is a serious joke. It is serious because useful
>> good
>> stuff happens, and it is a joke because we don’t really open
>> anything.
>> It already is (open). What we do do is playfully remind people
>> of what
>> they already know, but may have forgotten. Emphasis:
>> _play_fully. Law,
>> Principles, and Final Admonition, all best done with a smile J
>>
>> ho
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>> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] : Speech acts
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>> Howdy Harrison,
>> This background story on the "wonderful internal contradiction"
>> does
>> explain the curiously dissonant sentence structure of "Be
>> prepared to be
>> surprised."
>>
>> "Be prepared to be surprised" is a directive, a structure that is
>> dissonant and might even be in conflict with the concepts of
>> self-management, self-governance, self-organization et al.
>>
>> I have been studying, arranging and facilitating OST meetings
>> for over 5
>> years, and I just noticed this curious fact for the 1st time.
>>
>> Probably something to do with the books I'm reading lately.
>>
>> And this guy:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_**_John_L._Austin<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__John_L._Austin>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**John_L._Austin<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin>
>> >
>> Austin pointed out that we use language to /do/ things as well as
>> to
>> /assert/ things, and that the utterance of a statement like "I
>> promise
>> to do so-and-so" is best understood as /doing/ something —
>> /making a
>> promise/ — rather than making an assertion about anything. Hence
>> the
>> name of one of his best-known works: "How to do Things with
>> Words".
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Dan
>>
>> On 10/26/13 11:38 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
>>
>> you couldnt, because you are already dead
>> mmp
>>
>> On 26.10.2013 17:35, Harrison Owen wrote:
>>
>> Actually Dan – it is and always has been a serious joke,
>> with (I think)
>> a wonderful internal contradiction. If you were really
>> prepared to be
>> surprised, you couldn’t be surprised... or could you J
>>
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>> *Subject:* [OSList] : Speech acts
>>
>> When responding to Jenifer's thoughts earlier, I realized:
>>
>> The slogan "Be Prepared to Be Surprised" is a most
>> interesting one
>> in OST.
>>
>> It is actually an illocutionary speech act.... of type
>> "*/Directive/*".
>>
>> So, located here in OST, baked into it, we have a specific
>> slogan that
>> is attempting to *cause* the hearer to take a particular
>> action, e.g. a
>> request, *commands* and advice. A directive!
>>
>> I wonder if the undeniably directive structure of "Be
>> Prepared to Be
>> Surprised" really aligned with the
>> intention/spirit/philosophy of OST.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>> Background links:
>>
>> What is a speech act?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_**_Speech_acts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Speech_acts>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Speech_acts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts>
>> >
>> A */speech act/* in linguistics
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Linguistics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Linguistics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>
>> >>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Linguistics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Linguistics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>>>
>> and the philosophy of
>> language
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Philosophy_of_language<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Philosophy_of_language>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Philosophy_of_language<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language>
>> >>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Philosophy_of_language<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Philosophy_of_language>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Philosophy_of_language<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language>>>
>> is an
>> utterance that has performative function in language and
>> communication.
>>
>> What is an illocutionary act?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_**_Illocutionary_act<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Illocutionary_act>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Illocutionary_act<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illocutionary_act>
>> >
>> *Illocutionary act* is a term in linguistics
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Linguistics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Linguistics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>
>> >>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Linguistics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Linguistics<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>>>
>> introduced by the
>> philosopher
>> John L. Austin
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__John_L._Austin<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__John_L._Austin>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**John_L._Austin<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin>
>> >>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__John_L._Austin<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__John_L._Austin>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**John_L._Austin<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin>>>
>> in his
>> investigation of the various aspects of speech acts
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Speech_acts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Speech_acts>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Speech_acts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts>
>> >>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**__Speech_acts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Speech_acts>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Speech_acts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts>
>> >>.
>>
>> What is a Directive illocutionary act?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_**_Illocutionary_act#Classes_of_**
>> __illocutionary_acts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Illocutionary_act#Classes_of___illocutionary_acts>
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Illocutionary_act#Classes_of_**
>> illocutionary_acts<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illocutionary_act#Classes_of_illocutionary_acts>
>> >
>>
>> *directives* = speech acts that are to *cause the hearer to
>> take a
>> particular action*, e.g. requests, commands and advice
>>
>> More than you asked for:
>> What is a Commissive speech act?
>> *commissives* = speech acts that commit a speaker to some
>> future
>> action,
>> e.g. promises and oaths
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> On 10/24/13 1:29 PM, Jenifer Toksvig wrote:
>>
>> Dan wrote: >> Consider the man who loves a certain
>> woman, and
>> waits
>> for the current trend of her interest in him to
>> change. He is goal
>> seeking without controlling. Likewise, trend-following
>> market
>> traders do not attempt to create, control or make
>> trends. They
>> simply identify & ride them, while seeking wealth. <<
>>
>> Waiting and seeking are still forms of controlling.
>> Your loving
>> man
>> has chosen to wait for his goal rather than (to coin a
>> phrase)
>> being
>> prepared to be surprised by another woman. He may not
>> be trying to
>> control her, but he’s still trying to control the
>> situation in
>> a way
>> that he thinks will allow him to achieve his goal.
>>
>> Those who seek wealth do likewise: they don’t randomly
>> ride the
>> trends, they identify them and make choices about how
>> to ride
>> them,
>> in order to obtain wealth. That is control.
>>
>> I don’t think it’s possible to be goal-oriented and
>> try to exert
>> some kind of control over the process, unless your
>> goal is… to
>> have
>> no goal. Actually, even being prepared to be surprised
>> is a
>> goal. A
>> sort of wonderfully ridiculous one.
>>
>> Jen x
>>
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