<div dir="ltr"><div>MIchael: Thany you I will contact Dan to ask him about all this visit.<br></div>Adriana<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/10/27 Michael M Pannwitz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mmpannwitz@gmail.com" target="_blank">mmpannwitz@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Adriana,<br>
I just had a look at the little map that Dan included in his mail with<br>
the subject line "Quebec City by the way of Sherbrooke" and it seemed to<br>
me that Drummondville might be closest place to Montreal AND Annick<br>
Corriveau lives in Drummondville, she is on the world map, look here<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<a href="http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/moreinfo/businesscard.php?p_id=728&country_name=Canada&c_id=34" target="_blank">http://www.openspaceworldmap.<u></u>org/moreinfo/businesscard.php?<u></u>p_id=728&country_name=Canada&<u></u>c_id=34</a><br>
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<br>
she probably knows the best place to meet in Drummondville and who<br>
knows, wants to join you and Dan. A little Stammtisch.<br>
In case you meet Dan on his trip in Drummondville, I would love to hear<br>
about it.<br>
Greetings from Berlin<br>
mmp<br>
<br>
On 27.10.2013 05:17, Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Micheal: DO you mean Drummondville in Quebec or is it another place<br>
called like this?<br>
Adriana<br>
<br>
<br>
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This puzzled me and still puzzles me: The notion that we open space.<br>
I always stumble over it when I hear someone saying that. Why is<br>
that done?<br>
In my frame, I just call it: I make an introduction.<br>
And sometimes I say: The sponsor opens the space (does a 3-Minute<br>
whatever) and then introduces me to the crowd, best by saying: and<br>
here is Michael.<br>
I did this once when I was sponsor and introduced Harrison as<br>
facilitator by saying "And here is Harrison" and sat down. It dawned<br>
on him in about 3 seconds that he was on.<br>
The role of the facilitator, another grand question for Utrecht.<br>
And all of you who find it too far away: This is actually the reason<br>
why we do the European OSonOS in the years when WOSonOS is simply<br>
too far away for some... and for some years now for me, too.<br>
So next year, when it is in Belgrade, there will be no "European"<br>
OSonOS... hold it, be prepared to be surprised.<br>
<br>
Love that invitation that Dan extended... Drummondville seems a real<br>
possibility.<br>
<br>
cheers<br>
mmp<br>
<br>
On 26.10.2013 20:26, Harrison Owen wrote:<br>
<br>
Dan you are totally correct. The sentence structure is a mess. I<br>
knew<br>
that when I said it, and said it intentionally... to make a point:<br>
“Opening” an OST is a serious joke. It is serious because useful<br>
good<br>
stuff happens, and it is a joke because we don’t really open<br>
anything.<br>
It already is (open). What we do do is playfully remind people<br>
of what<br>
they already know, but may have forgotten. Emphasis:<br>
_play_fully. Law,<br>
Principles, and Final Admonition, all best done with a smile J<br>
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Howdy Harrison,<br>
This background story on the "wonderful internal contradiction" does<br>
explain the curiously dissonant sentence structure of "Be<br>
prepared to be<br>
surprised."<br>
<br>
"Be prepared to be surprised" is a directive, a structure that is<br>
dissonant and might even be in conflict with the concepts of<br>
self-management, self-governance, self-organization et al.<br>
<br>
I have been studying, arranging and facilitating OST meetings<br>
for over 5<br>
years, and I just noticed this curious fact for the 1st time.<br>
<br>
Probably something to do with the books I'm reading lately.<br>
<br>
And this guy:<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__John_L._Austin" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_<u></u>_John_L._Austin</a><br>
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promise/ — rather than making an assertion about anything. Hence the<br>
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Dan<br>
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On 10/26/13 11:38 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:<br>
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you couldnt, because you are already dead<br>
mmp<br>
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Actually Dan – it is and always has been a serious joke,<br>
with (I think)<br>
a wonderful internal contradiction. If you were really<br>
prepared to be<br>
surprised, you couldn’t be surprised... or could you J<br>
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*Subject:* [OSList] : Speech acts<br>
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When responding to Jenifer's thoughts earlier, I realized:<br>
<br>
The slogan "Be Prepared to Be Surprised" is a most<br>
interesting one<br>
in OST.<br>
<br>
It is actually an illocutionary speech act.... of type<br>
"*/Directive/*".<br>
<br>
So, located here in OST, baked into it, we have a specific<br>
slogan that<br>
is attempting to *cause* the hearer to take a particular<br>
action, e.g. a<br>
request, *commands* and advice. A directive!<br>
<br>
I wonder if the undeniably directive structure of "Be<br>
Prepared to Be<br>
Surprised" really aligned with the<br>
intention/spirit/philosophy of OST.<br>
<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
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Background links:<br>
<br>
What is a speech act?<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Speech_acts" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_<u></u>_Speech_acts</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Speech_acts</a>><br>
A */speech act/* in linguistics<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__Linguistics</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Linguistics</a>>><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__Linguistics</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Linguistics</a>>> and the philosophy of<br>
language<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Philosophy_of_language" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__Philosophy_of_language</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Philosophy_of_language</a>>><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Philosophy_of_language" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__Philosophy_of_language</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Philosophy_of_language</a>>> is an<br>
utterance that has performative function in language and<br>
communication.<br>
<br>
What is an illocutionary act?<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Illocutionary_act" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_<u></u>_Illocutionary_act</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illocutionary_act" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Illocutionary_act</a>><br>
*Illocutionary act* is a term in linguistics<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__Linguistics</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Linguistics</a>>><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Linguistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__Linguistics</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Linguistics</a>>> introduced by the<br>
philosopher<br>
John L. Austin<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__John_L._Austin" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__John_L._Austin</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>John_L._Austin</a>>><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__John_L._Austin" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__John_L._Austin</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>John_L._Austin</a>>> in his<br>
investigation of the various aspects of speech acts<br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Speech_acts" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__Speech_acts</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Speech_acts</a>>><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Speech_acts" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>__Speech_acts</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Speech_acts</a>>>.<br>
<br>
What is a Directive illocutionary act?<br>
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/__Illocutionary_act#Classes_of___illocutionary_acts" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/_<u></u>_Illocutionary_act#Classes_of_<u></u>__illocutionary_acts</a><br>
<<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illocutionary_act#Classes_of_illocutionary_acts" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<u></u>Illocutionary_act#Classes_of_<u></u>illocutionary_acts</a>><br>
<br>
*directives* = speech acts that are to *cause the hearer to<br>
take a<br>
particular action*, e.g. requests, commands and advice<br>
<br>
More than you asked for:<br>
What is a Commissive speech act?<br>
*commissives* = speech acts that commit a speaker to some<br>
future<br>
action,<br>
e.g. promises and oaths<br>
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On 10/24/13 1:29 PM, Jenifer Toksvig wrote:<br>
<br>
Dan wrote: >> Consider the man who loves a certain<br>
woman, and<br>
waits<br>
for the current trend of her interest in him to<br>
change. He is goal<br>
seeking without controlling. Likewise, trend-following<br>
market<br>
traders do not attempt to create, control or make<br>
trends. They<br>
simply identify & ride them, while seeking wealth. <<<br>
<br>
Waiting and seeking are still forms of controlling.<br>
Your loving<br>
man<br>
has chosen to wait for his goal rather than (to coin a<br>
phrase)<br>
being<br>
prepared to be surprised by another woman. He may not<br>
be trying to<br>
control her, but he’s still trying to control the<br>
situation in<br>
a way<br>
that he thinks will allow him to achieve his goal.<br>
<br>
Those who seek wealth do likewise: they don’t randomly<br>
ride the<br>
trends, they identify them and make choices about how<br>
to ride<br>
them,<br>
in order to obtain wealth. That is control.<br>
<br>
I don’t think it’s possible to be goal-oriented and<br>
try to exert<br>
some kind of control over the process, unless your<br>
goal is… to<br>
have<br>
no goal. Actually, even being prepared to be surprised<br>
is a<br>
goal. A<br>
sort of wonderfully ridiculous one.<br>
<br>
Jen x<br>
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