[OSList] : Speech acts

Sat Oct 26 11:16:53 PDT 2013

Thank you for sharing your readings. We have an important author in spanish
from Chile Echeverria he wrote a book called Ontologia del lenguage about
the same topic.

2013/10/26 Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>

>  Howdy Harrison,
> This background story on the "wonderful internal contradiction" does
> explain the curiously dissonant sentence structure of "Be prepared to be
> surprised."
>
> "Be prepared to be surprised" is a directive, a structure that is
> dissonant and might even be in conflict with the concepts of
> self-management, self-governance, self-organization et al.
>
> I have been studying, arranging and facilitating OST meetings for over 5
> years, and I just noticed this curious fact for the 1st time.
>
> Probably something to do with the books I'm reading lately.
>
> And this guy:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin
> Austin pointed out that we use language to *do* things as well as to *
> assert* things, and that the utterance of a statement like "I promise to
> do so-and-so" is best understood as *doing* something — *making a promise*— rather than making an assertion about anything. Hence the name of one of
> his best-known works: "How to do Things with Words".
>
> Kind Regards,
> Dan
>
> On 10/26/13 11:38 AM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
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> you couldnt, because you are already dead
> mmp
>
> On 26.10.2013 17:35, Harrison Owen wrote:
>
> Actually Dan – it is and always has been a serious joke, with (I think)
> a wonderful internal contradiction. If you were really prepared to be
> surprised, you couldn’t be surprised... or could you J
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> ho
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> When responding to Jenifer's thoughts earlier, I realized:
>
> The slogan "Be Prepared to Be Surprised" is a most interesting one in OST.
>
> It is actually an illocutionary speech act.... of type "*/Directive/*".
>
> So, located here in OST, baked into it, we have a specific slogan that
> is attempting to *cause* the hearer to take a particular action, e.g. a
> request, *commands* and advice. A directive!
>
> I wonder if the undeniably directive structure of "Be Prepared to Be
> Surprised" really aligned with the intention/spirit/philosophy of OST.
>
> Dan
>
>
> Background links:
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> What is a speech act?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts
> A */speech act/* in linguistics
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>and the philosophy of
> language <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language>is an
> utterance that has performative function in language and communication.
>
> What is an illocutionary act?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illocutionary_act
> *Illocutionary act* is a term in linguistics
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistics>introduced by the philosopher
> John L. Austin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_L._Austin>in his
> investigation of the various aspects of speech acts
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_acts>.
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> What is a Directive illocutionary act?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illocutionary_act#Classes_of_illocutionary_acts
> *directives* = speech acts that are to *cause the hearer to take a
> particular action*, e.g. requests, commands and advice
>
> More than you asked for:
> What is a Commissive speech act?
> *commissives* = speech acts that commit a speaker to some future action,
> e.g. promises and oaths
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> On 10/24/13 1:29 PM, Jenifer Toksvig wrote:
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>     Dan wrote: >> Consider the man who loves a certain woman, and waits
>     for the current trend of her interest in him to change. He is goal
>     seeking without controlling. Likewise, trend-following market
>     traders do not attempt to create, control or make trends. They
>     simply identify & ride them, while seeking wealth. <<
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>     Waiting and seeking are still forms of controlling. Your loving man
>     has chosen to wait for his goal rather than (to coin a phrase) being
>     prepared to be surprised by another woman. He may not be trying to
>     control her, but he’s still trying to control the situation in a way
>     that he thinks will allow him to achieve his goal.
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>     Those who seek wealth do likewise: they don’t randomly ride the
>     trends, they identify them and make choices about how to ride them,
>     in order to obtain wealth. That is control.
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>     I don’t think it’s possible to be goal-oriented and try to exert
>     some kind of control over the process, unless your goal is… to have
>     no goal. Actually, even being prepared to be surprised is a goal. A
>     sort of wonderfully ridiculous one.
>
>     Jen x
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>     *Jenifer Toksvig
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