[OSList] Agile for OST Facilitators (Call #2: Monday 10/28, 7PM NYC/EST time)
ANNE BENNETT
anne.bennett8ac at btinternet.com
Mon Oct 21 04:54:04 PDT 2013
I'm currently Liaising with colleagues in Mountain time - I dail them at 8pm here in British Summer time (ends this week - back to GMT, so would become 7pm) and they in Denver are 1pm. Civilized??
Anne in London
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From: Dan Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net>
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Sent: Saturday, 19 October 2013, 21:38
Subject: Re: [OSList] Agile for OST Facilitators (Call #2: Monday 10/28, 7PM NYC/EST time)
What time of day do you think is best for folks in Europe, Usa West and UsaEast?
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 19, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Marie Ann Östlund <marieann.ostlund at gmail.com> wrote:
And would you consider scheduling a call earlier one day for the benefit of your European friends? Or will 7pm EST be the only option ever?
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>Marie Ann
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>On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Daniel Mezick <dan at newtechusa.net> wrote:
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>Greetings,
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>>You are cordially invited to participate in the next "Agile for OST Facilitators" call! We had 17 folks on Call#1 (see below)
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>>The idea is it answer questions about Agile adoptions so that
OST folks can more fully understand the Open Agile Adoption
(with Open Space) technique.
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>>The call is limited to just 25 persons, so please note that your
registration is an explicit commitment to attend.
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>>Call #2: Agile for OST Facilitators Date: Monday October 28 2013 7PM EST
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>>Purpose of Call: Orient OST folks on Agile adoptions, and discuss using OST in Agile Adoptions, including discussion of specific challenges and opportunities.
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>>You can register here...
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>>Registration Link:
>>http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/conference/register/OGJUMYQ0FRQ67ZR
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>> I hope to talk to you on the call!
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>>Kind Regards,
>>Dan
>>http://www.openagileadoption.com/
>>203 915 7248
>>http://www.danielmezick.com/
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>>=========================
>>DETAILS ON NEXT CALL:
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>>Call #2:
>>Agile for OST Facilitators
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>>Date:
>>Monday October 28 2013 7PM EST
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>>Registration Link:
>>http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/conference/register/OGJUMYQ0FRQ67ZR
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>>Agenda: One Hour Call #2:
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>>0/ Quick Review: (05 mins)
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>>1/ Answer questions generated from Call#1 (25 mins)
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>>2/ Dialogue/New Questions (25 mins)
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>>3/ Deconvene/Summary (05 mins)
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>>Recap of Call#1 on 10/05/2013:
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>>1. On Call#1, I suggested that the participants (new and existing) send questions with the text "[AgileOST]" in the subject line, so I can collect, list and answer your questions on the next call.
>>2. We ended the Call#1 with a suggestion that every one participating examine these docs:
>>http://www.agilemanifesto.org/
>>http://www.agilemanifesto.org/principles.html
>>https://www.scrum.org/Scrum-Guides
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>>=================================
>>CALL #2 Details
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>>Questions that have come in from Call#1 are listed below.
>>There are many interesting questions.
>>I plan to answer them on the next call on 10/28.
>>Senders of questions are not listed in the data.
>>I disclose these questions so you can see what is happening, and
decide if you want to opt-in to the call.
>>The questions form the rough agenda; there will be a brief
review at the start.
>>You can use Call#2 as your entry point; there is no requirement
to have been on Call #1 to participate in Call#2.
>>If you are new to the topic, consider examining the links
Agile-related links (above) to get oriented before the call.
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>>Q. About Open Agile Adoption:
>>If the facilitator for the 1st OS is external to the organization (neutral as oppose to an on-going 'coach'), why can that person not also facilitate the 2nd OS? ...granted that it is also a good idea to pass on the learning of opening space to someone internal if they can play comfortably that neutral role among their peers.
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>>Q. the question I have is about roles. reading the scrum.org site, i see different trainings for different roles. it would be helpful to get a sort of program, cuz i can't tell the players without a program. there are a bunch of folks sitting at computers, writing code, cobbling code, etc. there's some project owner. there are users. and some others in between. would help to know something about sizes of groups, training required for different roles, languages used, and these sorts of details.
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>> I Q. I struggle with the notion that “agile has become mainstream, while at the same time has a “85% failure” rate - on the face of it this seems like folly - why would any company want to adopt agile with such a poor track record?
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>>· Q. In the case of OAA where there has already been an attempt to adopt agile (rescuing an adoptation), training in agile (scrum etc) will already have taken place, but in the case where a unit goes straight into agile via OAA (straight adaptation), when does the training take place? Before the first Open Space, or between the two OS event (as part of liminality)?
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>>· Q. I was a little perplexed by the comment you made on OSList about there being more ways to fail with Open Space in agile adoptions than to succeed, this seems to put OST on a danger list. Put differently, it seemed to suggest that there is just one right way to run OST to be successful while there are many wrong ways – what is not clear to me is what is that right way?
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>>· Q. In our last teleconference you talked of “proceedings”, but it was not clear to me what you meant by that (OS proceedings, agile proceedings, other)?
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>>· Q. At the last teleconference we also established that the follow up after the first OST event is critical for success – but how will the follow through be run, and more importantly who will be responsible for this follow up? (If it is the OST facilitator then I would have doubts as to whether OST facilitators who are not also agile experts are really suitable for OAA.)
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>>· Q. If agile adoptions fail because they are mandated by senior management, and if we manage to turn this around with your suggested OAA approach using OST, this will surely also involve a certain degree of transformation within senior management ranks (indeed it may lead to a new kind of resistance at the top). This in turn could lead to a negative perception of OST itself. Would you like to comment?
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>>o I say this because I see a parallel problem in lean adoptions which also often don’t bring about expected results. In lean this may partly be due to mandating, but more often to either treating lean purely as a technical tool (rather than a whole system) without the equivalent Japanese attention to empowering the humans behind the system, or to very poor support and commitment to lean from senior management. This leads to lean being run more like an add-on application rather than a whole new operating system.
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>>On 10/13/13 10:00 PM, Daniel Mezick wrote:
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>>Friendly (last) Reminder regarding the call tomorrow, 7PM EST:
>>>
>>>"Agile for Open Space Facilitators".
>>>
>>>There is a minimum of 20 minutes for questions...probably more.
>>>
>>>Hope you can make it!
>>>Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>This is an invitation to signal interest in learning more about
how Open Space can help Agile adoptions, and
>>>
>>> * learn about the structure of the Agile industry, and
>>> * learn about the dynamics of the current Agile adoption situation, and
>>> * learn how Open Space can play in the Agile Space, and
>>> * learn more about Open Agile Adoption
>>>There will be no marketing of anything whatsoever on this call.
The intent is to offer a gift, to folks here who are skilled in
OST, folks who may not have a programming/IT/software/Agile
background.
>>>
>>>The date and time for the proposes conference call is:
>>>Monday, October 14 at 7PM EST
>>>
>>>Here is a starting agenda:
>>>
>>>1/ What is Agile? What is Agile coaching?
>>>2/ What are some of the special problems with Agile coaching and
Agile adoptions?
>>>3/ How can Open Space help?
>>>4/ Can Open Space facilitators can be Agile coaches? Is this
really possible? If so, what extra stuff do they need to know?
>>>5/ What is Open Agile Adoption, and why do I care?
>>>6/ What next steps can I take to learn more about the Agile
opportunity?
>>>
>>>======================================================
>>>Event name and Topic:
>>>"Agile for Open Space Facilitators"
>>>
>>>Date: 10/14 (Monday)
>>>Time: 7PM EST
>>>Duration: 1 hour
>>>
>>>Registration Link:
>>>http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/conference/register/H5KPHZNVZ5PSJ7XQ
>>>
>>>Agenda:
>>>Welcome OST Facilitators!
>>>This is an overview of Agile and Agile adoption practices for Open
Space Facilitators who are new to Agile, new to Agile adoptions
and new to Agile coaching. The purpose of the call is orient
skilled Open Space facilitators so that they can understand the
dynamics of Agile adoptions and prepare to facilitate Open Space
meetings during Agile adoptions as described at http://www.openagileadoption.com/ and the OSLIST
>>>
>>>Schedule:
>>>Minutes, Topic
>>>05, Intro
>>>15, Basic Agile ideas
>>>15, Agile Adoptions (see detail above)
>>>20, Questions and dialogue
>>>05, Summary and conclusion
>>>======================================================
>>>
>>>
>>>On 10/11/13 11:14 AM, Daniel Mezick wrote:
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>Monday 10/14 is the day when you can hop on an interesting,
1-hour, educational conference call:
>>>>
>>>>"Agile for Open Space Facilitators"
>>>>
>>>>I promise it will be an excellent use of your time!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We will cover Agile as it pertains the use of Open Space in
Agile adoptions.
>>>>
>>>>Here is the registration link and related for the call on
Monday. Signup is very simple! I hope to see you there!
>>>>
>>>>NOTE: The call is limited to 25 participants, so PLEASE register
only if you intend to be on the call. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You can reach me as follows:
>>>>
>>>>@DanMezick on Twitter
>>>>203 915 7248
>>>>dan at newtechusa.net
>>>>
>>>>Note:
>>>>You may wish to browse http://www.openagileadoption.com/ in advance of this call.
>>>>
>>>>======================================================
>>>>Event name and Topic:
>>>>"Agile for Open Space Facilitators"
>>>>
>>>>Date: 10/14 (Monday)
>>>>Time: 7PM EST
>>>>Duration: 1 hour
>>>>
>>>>Registration Link:
>>>>http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/conference/register/H5KPHZNVZ5PSJ7XQ
>>>>
>>>>Agenda:
>>>>Welcome OST Facilitators!
>>>>This is an overview of Agile and Agile adoption practices for
Open Space Facilitators who are new to Agile, new to Agile
adoptions and new to Agile coaching. The purpose of the call is
orient skilled Open Space facilitators so that they can
understand the dynamics of Agile adoptions and prepare to
facilitate Open Space meetings during Agile adoptions as
described at http://www.openagileadoption.com/ and the OSLIST
>>>>
>>>>Schedule:
>>>>Minutes, Topic
>>>>05, Intro
>>>>15, Basic Agile ideas
>>>>15, Agile Adoptions (see detail below)
>>>>20, Questions and dialogue
>>>>05, Summary and conclusion
>>>>======================================================
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I hope to see you there!
>>>>
>>>>Kind Regards,
>>>>Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 9/21/13 12:44 PM, Tricia Chirumbole wrote:
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>>>>Count me in Dan!
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for all of your efforts and energy in encouraging this exciting melding of practices and communities.
>>>>>
>>>>>Just became a Certified Scrum Master this week! :) woof! And launched my new practice that is OST + Scrum/Agile: Mojo Collaborative!
>>>>>
>>>>>Best Wishes in Paris Dan!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Donna Read <donna.read at managing4wellness.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi, Dan, I, too, would be interested. Thanks for doing this. Best, Donna
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sep 21, 2013, at 9:24, kathryn at energyatplay.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello Dan,
>>>>>>>I'm interested in your offering. I'm just starting up an online learning community at Microsoft that is about Adopting Agile for Content Developers.
>>>>>>>Kathryn Elliott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 2013-09-19 10:59, Daniel Mezick wrote:
>>>>>>>Greetings,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This is an invitation to signal interest in
learning more about how Open Space can help
Agile adoptions, and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * learn about the structure of the Agile industry, and
>>>>>>>> * learn about the dynamics of the current Agile adoption situation, and
>>>>>>>> * learn how Open Space can play in the Agile Space, and
>>>>>>>> * learn more about Open Agile Adoption
>>>>>>>>There will be no marketing of anything
whatsoever on this call. The intent is to
offer a gift, to folks here who are skilled
in OST, folks who may not have a
programming/IT/software/Agile background.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If there is enough interest from the OST
community, I am ready, willing and able to
arrange and conduct a short, structured
phone conference to address these topics and
facilitate some lively dialogue and Q&A
around these topics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The date and time for the proposes
conference call is:
>>>>>>>>Monday, October 14 at 7PM EST
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here is a starting agenda:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1/ What is Agile? What is Agile coaching?
>>>>>>>>2/ What are some of the special problems
with Agile coaching and Agile adoptions?
>>>>>>>>3/ How can Open Space help?
>>>>>>>>4/ Can Open Space facilitators can be Agile
coaches? Is this really possible? If so,
what extra stuff do they need to know?
>>>>>>>>5/ What is Open Agile Adoption, and why do I
care?
>>>>>>>>6/ What next steps can I take to learn more
about the Agile opportunity?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>To signal interest:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>7/ Please add a brief note of interest to
this thread, by replying to it
>>>>>>>>8/ Send me an email (dan at newtechusa.net} with "OAA 10/14" in the message subject
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You can visit http://www.openagileadoption.com/ if you want to investigate these topics a bit more in advance of responding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You are invited to signal interest! Based on
your feedback, I will know exactly what to
do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Will you reply by Monday 10/7, or sooner?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thank you and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>>Dan
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Daniel Mezick, President
>>>>>>>>New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>>>>>>(203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>>>>>>>Bio. Blog. Twitter.
>>>>>>>>Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.
>>>>>>>>Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.
>>>>>>>>Explore the Agile Boston Community.
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>Daniel Mezick, President
>>>>New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>>(203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>>>Bio. Blog. Twitter.
>>>>Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.
>>>>Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.
>>>>Explore the Agile Boston Community.
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>>>
>>>Daniel Mezick, President
>>>New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>>(203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>>Bio. Blog. Twitter.
>>>Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.
>>>Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.
>>>Explore the Agile Boston Community.
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>>Daniel Mezick, President
>>New Technology Solutions Inc.
>>(203) 915 7248 (cell)
>>Bio. Blog. Twitter.
>>Examine my new book: The Culture Game : Tools for the Agile Manager.
>>Explore Agile Team Training and Coaching.
>>Explore the Agile Boston Community.
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