[OSList] [SPAM] A.MX - Re: Ang.: How to assess the effectiveness of an OS Meeting.

[Harrison Owen]

Annamarie - Yes I think that all systems are self organizing, but that
doesn't mean that all of them work perfectly all of the time, nor that they
won't come to an ending point. Indeed one of the marks of a self-organizing
system (organic system) is that it always has a beginning, middle and end.
So what about community gardens? Or community anything? Same thing, I think.
As for your garden. Sounds to me like a classic case of the "Nicies" -
Everybody wants to be "nice," not say anything nasty (even if honest) so
nothing gets said. And the results, sooner or later, are predictable.
Communication closes down, system space contracts, and morbidity, even
morality results. Living, self organizing systems don't do very well when
they can't breathe. Or something.

 

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Pluhar
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Subject: Re: [OSList] [SPAM] A.MX - Re: Ang.: How to assess the
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HI all, 

 

Slightly off topic, maybe, but I'd be interested in your thoughts.  HO says
(copied below) we are self-organizing top to bottom, beginning to end.  

 

So how does one handle in a community garden the one person who consistently
doesn't act in the best interests of the community but only insists on her
perspective? Flouting agreements, signed contracts.. etc. etc.  I think the
answer is in total transparency?  That the folks who knew this was going on
didn't broadcast it and make it apparent to everyone else? 

 

Of course this is relevant to anytime you have a group of people doing
something together:  teamwork, project management... 

 

I often think of the adage "One bad apple spoils the barrel" .. I wonder if
there are versions of this is German, French, Spanish, Swedish, Hebrew...  ?
Unlike in Open Space the gardeners can't pick up and move their gardens to
another space....  (though I do fear some are opting out which will
eventually kill the garden) 

 

Your thoughts? 

 

Thanks! 

 

 

Annamarie Pluhar

 

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On May 6, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:





We are, for better or worse, self organizing systems, top to bottom,
beginning to end. And it remains true that organizing a self organizing
system is not only an oxymoron, but futile and destructive.

 

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