[OSList] Fwd: Leadership denial?

Mon Jun 24 16:20:24 PDT 2013

I have tons I could share on working with Churches...what has your interest
in particular?

I always tell folks working with Churches to get Fr. Brian Bainbridge's
book on The New Parish Priest...that's what started my own inquiry with
Churches, and conversations we had together while he was working his way
through that book really inspired me in a lot of ways on what Open Space
does when you let it loose in a spiritual community whose foundations are
based on people being together and working from love (and responsibility!)

Chris

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Hege Steinsland
<steinslandhege at gmail.com>wrote:

> Chris, I´m curious about your work with Churches?
> Do you have something more to share from your experience?
> I`m working with Church and structure myself.
>
> Hege
>
> 24. juni 2013 kl. 19:59 skrev Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com>:
>
> Hey Barry...
>
> INteresting that you THINK there is a lot of bureaucracy to undo before
> proceeding.  Of course that may alos be true, but I note that it didn't
> seem to stop your competitors from offering something that completely
> finished you guys off.
>
> This is the time for the two feet, no?  The purest moment for
> entrepreneurship, passion and responsibility...
>
> I'm helping lots of organizations die these days - many of them are
> Churches.  But the demise of the struture does always mean the demise of
> the need.  When need, passion and responsibility becomes detached from
> structure, something new can flow.
>
> Good luck with it!
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:06 AM, Barry Owen <barryo at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Barry Owen <barry at paretorealtyllc.com>
>> Date: Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:06 AM
>> Subject: Re: [OSList] Leadership denial?
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>> Hi Annamarie,
>>
>> I care because I feel there's a needed space for a strong association for
>> this group of professionals who are all independent contractors.
>>
>> A local place to go to be among colleagues and peers and to learn and
>> share and grow.
>>
>> I'm not attached to the current association staying alive. In fact for
>> years, I have secretly thought that it should . . . Why hasn't it?
>>
>> there's a complex local, state, and National bureaucracy to navigate , ,
>> , and there are some key "benefits" and tools this bureaucracy controls
>> which necessitates the existence of this local association.
>>
>> We've got a LOT of undoing to do before we can do . . . and a lot of big
>> egos to deal with along the way.
>>
>> I've already begun my own work with dealing with this and am hopeful that
>> what we do now will facilitate a new and improved association in the future
>> :-)
>>
>> Thank you for your insight
>>
>> b
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>> On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Annamarie Pluhar <
>> annamarie at pluharconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> And most of the time I lurk. Your email.. yes, isn't it awful when we
>>> can see something but are powerless to do anything about it.
>>>
>>> So:  Why do you care so much? What does this association do for you that
>>> suggests it shouldn't die?
>>> Maybe you are being called to go and create something better!
>>>
>>>  Annamarie Pluhar
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Jun 23, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Barry Owen <barryo at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> I haven't spoken here in a while . . . here goes . . .
>>>
>>> I've gotta vent for a moment. I'm a member of an association which is
>>> literally on the brink of extinction because their entire source of income
>>> evaporated due to 2 things - The economic downturn . . . and the advent of
>>> new technology and crafty competitors who have figured out how to "give for
>>> free" the very service (Continuing Education) this association has (for
>>> years) controlled locally as its primary income.
>>>
>>> There are MANY members who have great ideas (including me) of creative
>>> ways to shift with the new environment (adapt) and survive, but the
>>> Leadership has created an iron wall of protection for the way they've
>>> always done things.
>>>
>>> I've offered - suggested - written "white papers" - Sat on their board
>>> of Directors to be a voice . . . but the "Leadership" chooses to be blind
>>> and deaf.
>>>
>>> The most recent meeting I attended was sad indeed as the leader spoke
>>> for 45 minutes about all of the doom and gloom . . . and dutifully had a
>>> "reason" that every new suggestion that surfaced could not work . . . Most
>>> of it centered around not wanting to violate "current policy"
>>>
>>> I'm at the point of realizing that my efforts are for naught and that my
>>> best course of action very well may be to do nothing . . . and let it die.
>>>
>>> Maybe when the death nears, the current Leaders will leave, and we can
>>> breathe new life into whatever remains.
>>>
>>> This is case study on a simple truth:
>>>
>>> We cannot "SELL" Open Space Technology to Leaders in denial that their
>>> personal need to control will likely be the death of their organization.
>>>
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