[OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours

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ONward, sis

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On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Sharon Joy Chao <sharon at seameo-innotech.org
> wrote:

> Its overwhelming reading through all the exchanges and good intentions my
> request has generated. I read  each mail and can't help but smile at the
> treasure trove of ideas.
>
> First off, the 1,000 participants in 4 hours, is definitely pushing
> through in Cebu. As its a big event, theres a team that's helping me and
>  doing much of the pre work on the ground. The venue is a huge hotel
> ballroom enough to accommodate over 2,000 so space is not much of a worry.
> I was shown pictures, the ballroom is squarish with high ceiling.  Now
> here's the catch, initially we thought of deploying balloons much like how
> Michael has done in Germany some years back. But the hotel won't allow
> balloons inside the hall, and also do not permit sticking anything on the
> wall. So, we are left with following options: either to use the laundry
> line complete with laundry clips or placards, which can be raised for
> people to see.
>
> I like the suggestion of Chris, as its something I can use to close the
> circle. Some tweaking so it reads like this..."what did we learn in this
> open space gathering and what do we need to do to support the momentum?" Of
> course I still need to work with  Civil Service people to make sense of the
> results and also to post the same question to them.
>
> Btw, this OST event happens within a two-day symposium on Performance
> Management System. And Harrison is right, there are tons of speakers on day
> 1, day 2 starts with open space in the morning. The big question paused to
> them is this: What bold steps can we take to create a truly essential,
> energizing and responsive performance management system? Additional
> speakers take over in the afternoon mainly for government pronouncements.
>
> The participants are government HR, OD and planning people, local
> government and some private sector representatives. There might not be that
> much exposure for deep engagement, but I'd still take this assignment
> anytime.
>
> To touch base with as many government agencies and be able to open the
> discussion on performance management; to have this engagement even for just
>  four hours and get government to seriously consider the kind of system
> that gives life to the service...these are enough incentives for me to
> accept the assignment.
>
> From the practice of open space I learn to adopt a beginner's mind, one
> that's open to possibility, a don't know mind, this coupled with the
> practice of quieting the mind, prepares me to gracefully enter the circle.
> I pray for humility to open the circle, and strength to step aside once the
> circle is open. And yes, 15 min is enough time to set the space.
>
> The program, thanks to your suggestions is more streamlined...one hour
> opening/issue generation; two one- hour sessions and another hour for
> closing the circle.
>
> I truly can't thank everyone enough. Sending my love to Harrison, Lisa and
> Franklin, and all those who are kind enough to play through the
> configuration of 1,000 under 4 hours. I'll get back to you and share how it
> goes. That would be something to look forward to :)
>
> Metta,
> Sharon Joy
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:00:37 -0400
> From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com>
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> Hi Harrison,
>
> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and be
> hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
> you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all situations
> to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in and/or the
> process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can
> slow down the speed of large group movement.
> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
> consciously the participants' process.
>
> Scott
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation
> with
> > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it
> > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and
> > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just
> > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the
> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with
> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real
> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and
> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle,
> create
> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else
> needed.**
> > **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Harrison****
> >
> > ** **
> >
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> >
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> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> > imagination.****
> >
> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of
> a
> > laid back ****
> >
> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> > logistics. I ****
> >
> > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> > through ****
> >
> > well planned OS tasks. ****
> >
> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> > with. I try to ****
> >
> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> > preceding ****
> >
> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> > positioned ****
> >
> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and
> confirm
> > sought ****
> >
> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important
> > topics****
> >
> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I
> > would also ****
> >
> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> > serve as ****
> >
> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
> >
> > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or
> two
> > to share their ****
> >
> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> > topics as examples ****
> >
> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> > performance ****
> >
> > system"sought.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.****
> >
> > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Scott Gassman****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:****
> >
> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4
> > hours.
> >
> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on
> the
> > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
> it
> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
> >
> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
> >
> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> > time?
> >
> > Maraming Salamat.
> >
> > ========================================
> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> > Fax (632) 928-7692
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> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:06:55 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
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> Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO) confidence, clarity
> or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we
> may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement."
>
>
>
> Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different take. Truth is I have
> ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my "competence in all
> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement." Quite to the
> contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue
> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque...
> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them
> to
> do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as possible, get
> out
> of the way. Usually to take a napJ
>
>
>
> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she didn't
> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be terrified ... it
> could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
> all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing to lose.
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
>
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> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
> On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>
>
>
> Hi Harrison,
>
>
>
> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and be
> hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
>
> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
> you
> have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
>
> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all situations
> to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in and/or the
> process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can
> slow
> down the speed of large group movement.
>
> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
> consciously the participants' process.
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> reason
> to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every situation with large
> groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the people do it all by
> themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and more
> furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just got to
> get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make sure the opening was
> fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on with the show! Of
> course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real business issue,
> complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and from there on out
> the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create bulletin board,
> open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed.
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20>
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20>  (Personal Website)
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of OSLIST
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>
>
> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
> On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>
>
>
> Hi Sharon Joy,
>
>
>
> Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> imagination.
>
> Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a
> laid back
>
> OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> logistics. I
>
> want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> through
>
> well planned OS tasks.
>
> I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away with.
> I try to
>
> get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> preceding
>
> any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> positioned
>
> influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm
> sought
>
> desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important
> topics
>
> for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I
> would also
>
> encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> serve as
>
> spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
>
> However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two
> to share their
>
> hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> topics as examples
>
> for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> performance
>
> system"sought.
>
>
>
> This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.
>
> I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.
>
>
>
> Scott Gassman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> sharon at seameo-innotech.org>
> wrote:
>
> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through
> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours.
>
> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the
> Philippine government service, its performance management system and how it
> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>
> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
>
> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
>
>
> Maraming Salamat.
>
> ========================================
> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> SEAMEO INNOTECH
> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> Fax (632) 928-7692
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:47:45 -0700
> From: Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com>
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> Agreeing with Harrison here.
>
> Lisa has given some great advice.  If you were going to make it possible to
> host 1000 people in Open Space for 4 hours, Lisa's detailed list gives you
> your best shot of doing that and being successful.
>
> Don't be fooled though...this is a huge ask to do this well.  The largest
> group I ever hosted was about 600 people and honestly, the thought of doing
> that in a half day is truly overwhelming.  You need a large team with you
> to make sure the logistics flow and make sure that people can find where
> they need to go in a timely way.  But 1000 people moving about in a space
> is a really big ask, and that takes WAAAAY more time than you think it
> will. And God forbid someone calls a session and 75 people show up because
> it is rich and juicy - just being able to be heard and get a few comments
> in will be challenging.
>
> As for the design teams idea, that one is really simple.  With a crowd of
> 1000 people all proposing and hosting conversations I think having a few
> people predetermine some trigger topics will give a false sense of comfort
> that they are actually able to be influential.  The fact is that 1000
> people are ALREADY talking and this Open Space will simply make that all
> visible.  To host this in Open Space you simply HAVE to have confidence in
> your ability to stand in the room and host.  If you can't do that, it's
> going to be hard for you.  You will not be able to control the shadow of
> the group nor the possibility of emergence.  Once the group is working you
> will barely be able to reconvene them, let alone impact the emotional field
> of the event.  So you and the core team need to let go of outcomes and get
> really curious about what might emerge from this afternoon of work.
>
> Instead of design teams I would counsel that you have several dozen
> listeners somehow connected to the bigger project who can discern what is
> going on.  After the event invite them and the conveners of every
> conversation to engage in a little meaning making together.  That could
> still be a meeting of more than 100 people, but you could do it in Open
> Space and ask the question: "So what did we learn from our 1000 people open
> space and what do we need to do to support momentum?"
>
> And as for outcomes, there is very little this group collectively will be
> able to accomplish in four hours other than people shaving the conversation
> they came to have (not the ones the sponsors want them to have) with a few
> people who managed to find them.  You might use a tool like
> http://smsharvest.com as a way of catching insights on the fly from
> everywhere.  But it will be really hard to get any collective clarity.
>
> This is a tough one Sharon Joy.  I wish you a lot of luck and good clarity
> and hope you will share the story with us of whatever happens.  There will
> be lots of learning in it for all of us.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence,
> clarity
> > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we
> > may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
> > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group
> movement.?
> > ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I
> > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in all
> > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the
> > contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real
> clue
> > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving,
> opaque...
> > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them
> > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible,
> get
> > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she
> didn?t
> > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it
> > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
> > all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.****
> >
> > ****
> >
> > Harrison****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Harrison Owen****
> >
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
> >
> > Potomac, MD 20854****
> >
> > USA****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
> >
> > Camden, Maine 04843****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Phone 301-365-2093****
> >
> > (summer)  207-763-3261****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
> >
> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
> >
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> > OSLIST Go to:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
> >
> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Hi Harrison,****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and
> > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
> >
> > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
> > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.****
> >
> > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all
> > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
> >
> > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
> > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
> > consciously the participants' process.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Scott****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > ****
> >
> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation
> with
> > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it
> > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and
> > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just
> > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the
> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with
> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real
> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and
> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle,
> create
> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else
> needed.**
> > **
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Harrison****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Harrison Owen****
> >
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
> >
> > Potomac, MD 20854****
> >
> > USA****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
> >
> > Camden, Maine 04843****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Phone 301-365-2093****
> >
> > (summer)  207-763-3261****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
> >
> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
> >
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> > OSLIST Go to:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> > imagination.****
> >
> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of
> a
> > laid back ****
> >
> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> > logistics. I ****
> >
> > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> > through ****
> >
> > well planned OS tasks. ****
> >
> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> > with. I try to ****
> >
> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> > preceding ****
> >
> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> > positioned ****
> >
> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and
> confirm
> > sought ****
> >
> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important
> > topics****
> >
> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I
> > would also ****
> >
> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> > serve as ****
> >
> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
> >
> > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or
> two
> > to share their ****
> >
> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> > topics as examples ****
> >
> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> > performance ****
> >
> > system"sought.****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.****
> >
> > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Scott Gassman****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:****
> >
> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4
> > hours.
> >
> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on
> the
> > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
> it
> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
> >
> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
> >
> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> > time?
> >
> > Maraming Salamat.
> >
> > ========================================
> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> > Fax (632) 928-7692
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> >
> >
> >
> > ****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > --
> > Scott Gassman
> > IdeaJuice
> > (917) 951 - 0258
> > scott.gassman at gmail.com
> > www.ideajuices.com
> >
> > America Speaks on Scott:
> >
> http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
> >
> > ****
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> >
> >
> >
> > ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > --
> > Scott Gassman
> > IdeaJuice
> > (917) 951 - 0258
> > scott.gassman at gmail.com
> > www.ideajuices.com
> >
> > America Speaks on Scott:
> >
> http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
> >
> >
> > ****
> >
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> >
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:47:52 -0400
> From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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> Harrison,
>
> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO
> confidence," "about what is going on."
> That's  good  material for me to think about as I approach future group
> work.
> I am touched by your Kathie story.  Kathie's respect for you came out in a
> conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really
> steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember
> you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle,
> can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open Space
> and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to
> support the group and deliver a quick start.  I want the organizational
> team to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps of
> how to get going on their own.
> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of control,"
> aiming to get them to keep pedaling  and stay up.
>
> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>
> Scott
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence,
> clarity
> > or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we
> > may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
> > bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group
> movement.?
> > ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I
> > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in all
> > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the
> > contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real
> clue
> > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving,
> opaque...
> > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them
> > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible,
> get
> > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she
> didn?t
> > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it
> > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
> > all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.****
> >
> > ****
> >
> > Harrison****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Harrison Owen****
> >
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
> >
> > Potomac, MD 20854****
> >
> > USA****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
> >
> > Camden, Maine 04843****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Phone 301-365-2093****
> >
> > (summer)  207-763-3261****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
> >
> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
> >
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> > OSLIST Go to:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
> >
> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Hi Harrison,****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and
> > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
> >
> > I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
> > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.****
> >
> > Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all
> > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
> >
> > Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
> > lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
> > consciously the participants' process.****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > Scott****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > ****
> >
> > Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation
> with
> > large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it
> > all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and
> > more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just
> > got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the
> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with
> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real
> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and
> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle,
> create
> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else
> needed.**
> > **
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Harrison****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Harrison Owen****
> >
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
> >
> > Potomac, MD 20854****
> >
> > USA****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
> >
> > Camden, Maine 04843****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Phone 301-365-2093****
> >
> > (summer)  207-763-3261****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
> >
> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
> >
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> > OSLIST Go to:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> > imagination.****
> >
> > Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of
> a
> > laid back ****
> >
> > OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> > logistics. I ****
> >
> > want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> > through ****
> >
> > well planned OS tasks. ****
> >
> > I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> > with. I try to ****
> >
> > get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> > preceding ****
> >
> > any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> > positioned ****
> >
> > influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and
> confirm
> > sought ****
> >
> > desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important
> > topics****
> >
> > for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I
> > would also ****
> >
> > encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> > serve as ****
> >
> > spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
> >
> > However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or
> two
> > to share their ****
> >
> > hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> > topics as examples ****
> >
> > for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> > performance ****
> >
> > system"sought.****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.****
> >
> > I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > Scott Gassman****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:****
> >
> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4
> > hours.
> >
> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on
> the
> > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
> it
> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
> >
> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
> >
> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> > time?
> >
> > Maraming Salamat.
> >
> > ========================================
> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> > Fax (632) 928-7692
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> >
> >
> >
> > ****
> >
> >  ****
> >
> > --
> > Scott Gassman
> > IdeaJuice
> > (917) 951 - 0258
> > scott.gassman at gmail.com
> > www.ideajuices.com
> >
> > America Speaks on Scott:
> >
> http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
> >
> > ****
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
> > To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> >
> >
> >
> > ****
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > --
> > Scott Gassman
> > IdeaJuice
> > (917) 951 - 0258
> > scott.gassman at gmail.com
> > www.ideajuices.com
> >
> > America Speaks on Scott:
> >
> http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
> >
> >
> > ****
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > OSList mailing list
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> > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Scott Gassman
> IdeaJuice
> (917) 951 - 0258
> scott.gassman at gmail.com
> www.ideajuices.com
>
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> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 05:55:23 +0000
> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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> A question here
>
> I have been a bit confused about the selection process for open space.
> In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening up the idea
> to my client that we should have a self-selection of participants in
> the open space by use of open invitation letters to the possible
> participants. My client did not like that.
>
> How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in the open
> space and dose that mater in any way?
>
> with a breeze from Iceland
> K?ri
>
> On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
> > Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you here! You do have a
> > hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my biggest concern is
> > always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need some major room to
> > maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two spaces are critical:
> in
> > the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that many people I would
> > look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is more than likely
> that
> > you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center, and that will
> become
> > quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the wall ? remember
> that
> > there will be a time when you have 1000 people all trying to read what
> is up
> > there (issues) and make their session selections. If the wall is too
> short,
> > the people will bunch up, and when people are standing 5-6 deep, it will
> get
> > frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of thumb is 6 inches of
> > wall per participant. That way people will never be more than 2-3 deep.
> You
> > can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a price. In terms of
> time
> > periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 -- 1 hour Sessions,
> and
> > a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all ?doable? but I do
> have
> > to ask: Why just 4 hours?
> >
> >
> >
> > I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will be speeches and
> > presentations in the morning, which presumably will provide the people
> with
> > the necessary inspiration and information to do the job. However, every
> time
> > I have been in a situation like that, the information provided was never
> > enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do the job. More to
> the
> > point, there is an implicit statement made which I find most troubling.
> It
> > would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters? somehow was equal
> to
> > and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and experience of 1000
> > people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I seriously doubt
> that
> > Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably better to just fire
> > (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000 person collective
> > wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ? the allocation of
> time
> > is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful. It might seem that
> the
> > ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play time after the
> experts
> > and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you and your
> colleagues
> > thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a possible conclusion
> based on
> > the facts on the ground. And I have definitely experienced situations
> where
> > the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally conscious. Worst case
> was a
> > CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to say, ?Never turn the
> > asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was the company, and
> the
> > ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that creativity and
> > innovation at that company were virtually non-existent, and that employee
> > morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of business.
> >
> >
> >
> > Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you Sharon Joy, I
> know
> > that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That said, I find that
> > sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we think or say. And
> > even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis of our real
> > intentions.
> >
> >
> >
> > Harrison
> >
> >
> >
> > Harrison Owen
> >
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.
> >
> > Potomac, MD 20854
> >
> > USA
> >
> >
> >
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> >
> > Camden, Maine 04843
> >
> >
> >
> > Phone 301-365-2093
> >
> > (summer)  207-763-3261
> >
> >
> >
> > www.openspaceworld.com
> >
> > www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
> >
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST
> > Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >
> >
> >
> > From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
> On Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM
> > To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> > Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
> >
> >
> >
> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through
> > an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours.
> >
> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on
> the
> > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
> it
> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
> >
> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
> >
> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
> >
> > Maraming Salamat.
> >
> > ========================================
> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> > Fax (632) 928-7692
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> K?ri Gunnarsson
> kari at openspace.is
> gsm: +354 8645189
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:00:29 +0200
> From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
> Message-ID: <51DE580D.6040408 at gmail.com>
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>
> Dear Kari,
> if an invitation is sent to all that the Planning Group (sponsor
> included) want to be at the event under the approach/question "who
> should be at the event so that the stuff we expect from the event under
> the Heading we came up with for the event will happen?" those receiving
> the invitation respond to the invitation the way one would usually
> respond: accept or decline (selfselection).
> Huge advantage of this selfselection is that the people picking up their
> spirit and body to come are the right people.
> People that come because they ought to, feel they have to, are forced to
> etc. are also selfselecting themselves.
> And all that show up hear my words about "The Law" and my invitation to
> "obey" it (at least twice in the event)... listening to their feedback I
> find that most folks find it liberating when they follow The Law, and
> stay and participate (passionately).
> Now, this is not really an answer to your question on the selection of
> the 1000 people.
> The event that HO refers to occasionally (the event with 2108
> participants) took place at the end of a five day conference with 3500
> folks in attendance. In the invitation to the conference people wanting
> to attend the OST part had to sign up for it seperately (this determined
> how many cushions we bought and how much food was supplied and how many
> toilets had to be set up etc.) and pay an additonal fee.
> In this way, following the invitation meant putting down some extra
> money, filling out a form with their contact data for the documentation
> all in addition to the decision that they wanted to be part of it. These
> kinds of commitments are perhaps trivial but many sponsors are trying to
> avoid to attach those commitments to the invitation to make it "easier"
> for people to come... also a form of control.
>
> Like the breeze from Iceland which actually arrived during the night and
> brought a refreshingly cool morning
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> On 11.07.2013 07:55, K?ri Gunnarsson wrote:
> > A question here
> >
> > I have been a bit confused about the selection process for open space.
> > In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening up the idea
> > to my client that we should have a self-selection of participants in
> > the open space by use of open invitation letters to the possible
> > participants. My client did not like that.
> >
> > How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in the open
> > space and dose that mater in any way?
> >
> > with a breeze from Iceland
> > K?ri
> >
> > On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you here! You do have a
> >> hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my biggest concern is
> >> always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need some major room to
> >> maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two spaces are critical:
> in
> >> the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that many people I would
> >> look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is more than likely
> that
> >> you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center, and that will
> become
> >> quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the wall ? remember
> that
> >> there will be a time when you have 1000 people all trying to read what
> is up
> >> there (issues) and make their session selections. If the wall is too
> short,
> >> the people will bunch up, and when people are standing 5-6 deep, it
> will get
> >> frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of thumb is 6 inches of
> >> wall per participant. That way people will never be more than 2-3 deep.
> You
> >> can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a price. In terms of
> time
> >> periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 -- 1 hour
> Sessions, and
> >> a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all ?doable? but I do
> have
> >> to ask: Why just 4 hours?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will be speeches and
> >> presentations in the morning, which presumably will provide the people
> with
> >> the necessary inspiration and information to do the job. However, every
> time
> >> I have been in a situation like that, the information provided was never
> >> enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do the job. More to
> the
> >> point, there is an implicit statement made which I find most troubling.
> It
> >> would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters? somehow was
> equal to
> >> and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and experience of 1000
> >> people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I seriously doubt
> that
> >> Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably better to just fire
> >> (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000 person collective
> >> wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ? the allocation of
> time
> >> is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful. It might seem
> that the
> >> ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play time after the
> experts
> >> and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you and your
> colleagues
> >> thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a possible conclusion
> based on
> >> the facts on the ground. And I have definitely experienced situations
> where
> >> the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally conscious. Worst case
> was a
> >> CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to say, ?Never turn
> the
> >> asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was the company, and
> the
> >> ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that creativity and
> >> innovation at that company were virtually non-existent, and that
> employee
> >> morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of business.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you Sharon Joy, I
> know
> >> that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That said, I find that
> >> sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we think or say.
> And
> >> even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis of our real
> >> intentions.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Harrison
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Harrison Owen
> >>
> >> 7808 River Falls Dr.
> >>
> >> Potomac, MD 20854
> >>
> >> USA
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> >>
> >> Camden, Maine 04843
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Phone 301-365-2093
> >>
> >> (summer)  207-763-3261
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> www.openspaceworld.com
> >>
> >> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
> >>
> >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST
> >> Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> >> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
> On Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao
> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM
> >> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> >> Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through
> >> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours.
> >>
> >> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on
> the
> >> Philippine government service, its performance management system and
> how it
> >> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
> >>
> >> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> >> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
> >>
> >> Maraming Salamat.
> >>
> >> ========================================
> >> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> >> SEAMEO INNOTECH
> >> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> >> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> >> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> >> Fax (632) 928-7692
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> OSList mailing list
> >> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
> >> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
> >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
> >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
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>
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>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:04:55 +0000
> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to
> host a moving open space.
>
> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would
> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my
> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a
> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open
> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour
> in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over
> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This
> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the
> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue
> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the
> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that
> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our
> papers in the jeeps.
>
> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would
> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take
> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion
> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place
> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a
> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir
> site.
>
> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site
> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries
> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other
> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and
> informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the
> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the
> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I
> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the
> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual
> dimension of the discussion.
>
> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep
> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open
> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would
> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>
> There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is
> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building
> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups
> to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going
> on with the business that matters.
>
> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:53:30 +0200
> From: gerardo de luzenberger <xge at loci.it>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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> Hi Kari, what marvellous story.
> While reading I was just wondering
> what happens to the law of two feet and
> how you manage to aloud butterflying.
> Are those lovely creatures that are just
> there doing nothing sitting on a special car?
> ge
>
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> 2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
>
> > I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to
> > host a moving open space.
> >
> > If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would
> > be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my
> > extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a
> > road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open
> > space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour
> > in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over
> > and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This
> > year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the
> > groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue
> > in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
> > changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the
> > possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that
> > protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our
> > papers in the jeeps.
> >
> > Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
> > impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would
> > need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take
> > with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion
> > group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place
> > names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a
> > group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir
> > site.
> >
> > The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site
> > guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries
> > along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other
> > maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and
> > informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the
> > jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the
> > sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I
> > would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the
> > site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual
> > dimension of the discussion.
> >
> > In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep
> > traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open
> > space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would
> > need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
> > application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
> >
> > There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is
> > that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building
> > when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups
> > to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going
> > on with the business that matters.
> >
> > Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome.
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 11:23:40 +0000
> From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
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> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
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> Hi Gerardo
>
> I have often been butterflying with my mind out of the window enjoying
> the marvels of the landscape while begin a passenger of a Jeep, taking
> no notice of the conversations happening next to me.
>
> In our Open Space Jeep ride with frequent stops for sites and
> conversations and many Jeeps, the butterflies will see the sites and
> find them sleeves in different jeeps all of the time.
>
> I think Ill draft out a fun 3 day tour and an empowering 5 day tour
> for this new moving by jeep open space format, with hot-spring outdoor
> thermal pools, geysers, volcanic lava-fields, waterfalls, glaciers,
> Nordic buffets, green energy sites and all the traditional fun stuff,
> ready for a topic and an invited group.
>
> with a breeze from Iceland
> K?ri
>
>
> On 11 July 2013 10:53, gerardo de luzenberger <xge at loci.it> wrote:
> > Hi Kari, what marvellous story.
> > While reading I was just wondering
> > what happens to the law of two feet and
> > how you manage to aloud butterflying.
> > Are those lovely creatures that are just
> > there doing nothing sitting on a special car?
> > ge
> >
> > Gerardo de Luzenberger
> > Mob: +39 3293281343
> > Tel: +39 02 89751746
> > Fax: +39 02 87151318
> > Skype: gerardodeluz ? xge at loci.it
> > IAF: Certified Professional Facilitator
> >
> > geniusloci
> >
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> > DELLA PROVINCIA DI MILANO
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> >
> > Sede legale: Via A. Volta 12 - 20121 Milano ? Italy
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> > 2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
> >>
> >> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to
> >> host a moving open space.
> >>
> >> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would
> >> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my
> >> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a
> >> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open
> >> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour
> >> in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over
> >> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This
> >> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the
> >> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue
> >> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
> >> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the
> >> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that
> >> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our
> >> papers in the jeeps.
> >>
> >> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
> >> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would
> >> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take
> >> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion
> >> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place
> >> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a
> >> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir
> >> site.
> >>
> >> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site
> >> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries
> >> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other
> >> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and
> >> informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the
> >> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the
> >> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I
> >> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the
> >> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual
> >> dimension of the discussion.
> >>
> >> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep
> >> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open
> >> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would
> >> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
> >> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
> >>
> >> There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is
> >> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building
> >> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups
> >> to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going
> >> on with the business that matters.
> >>
> >> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome.
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:35:31 -0400
> From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
> To: "'World wide Open Space Technology email list'"
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
> Message-ID: <000301ce7e33$2242d440$66c87cc0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Scott - When teaching a kid to ride a bike, you only push as long as you
> have to. When the kid takes off - Let Them Go! In my experience, when
> riding
> the "Open Space Bike" a 15 min push will do the job, provided the
> conditions
> are right (real issue, complexity, diversity, etc). Actually, with every
> group I've ever worked with - large or small - it seems like they already
> knew how to ride. They just needed a gentle reminder - and off they went.
> No
> help needed.
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
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>
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> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
> On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:48 PM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>
>
>
> Harrison,
>
>
>
> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO
> confidence," "about what is going on."
>
> That's  good  material for me to think about as I approach future group
> work.
>
> I am touched by your Kathie story.  Kathie's respect for you came out in a
> conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really
> steered
> me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember you
> leaving
> to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle, can you let
> go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open Space and joint
> design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to support the
> group and deliver a quick start.  I want the organizational team to
> discover
> and I also want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going
> on their own.
>
> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of control,"
> aiming to get them to keep pedaling  and stay up.
>
>
>
> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO) confidence, clarity
> or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we
> may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement."
>
>
>
> Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different take. Truth is I have
> ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my "competence in all
> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement." Quite to the
> contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue
> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque...
> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them
> to
> do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as possible, get
> out
> of the way. Usually to take a napJ
>
>
>
> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she didn't
> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be terrified ... it
> could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
> all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing to lose.
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20>
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20>  (Personal Website)
>
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>
>
> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
> On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>
>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>
>
>
> Hi Harrison,
>
>
>
> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and be
> hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
>
> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
> you
> have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
>
> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all situations
> to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in and/or the
> process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can
> slow
> down the speed of large group movement.
>
> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
> consciously the participants' process.
>
>
>
> Scott
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> reason
> to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every situation with large
> groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the people do it all by
> themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and more
> furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just got to
> get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make sure the opening was
> fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on with the show! Of
> course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real business issue,
> complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and from there on out
> the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create bulletin board,
> open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed.
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20>
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20>  (Personal Website)
>
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>
>
> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
> On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>
>
>
> Hi Sharon Joy,
>
>
>
> Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> imagination.
>
> Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a
> laid back
>
> OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> logistics. I
>
> want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> through
>
> well planned OS tasks.
>
> I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away with.
> I try to
>
> get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> preceding
>
> any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> positioned
>
> influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm
> sought
>
> desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important
> topics
>
> for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I
> would also
>
> encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> serve as
>
> spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
>
> However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two
> to share their
>
> hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> topics as examples
>
> for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> performance
>
> system"sought.
>
>
>
> This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.
>
> I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.
>
>
>
> Scott Gassman
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> sharon at seameo-innotech.org>
> wrote:
>
> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through
> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours.
>
> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the
> Philippine government service, its performance management system and how it
> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>
> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
>
> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
>
>
> Maraming Salamat.
>
> ========================================
> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> SEAMEO INNOTECH
> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> Fax (632) 928-7692
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:38:15 +0200
> From: Lise Damkj?r <lise at learning4life.dk>
> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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> Hey K?ri
>
> I really like your idea - I certainly would like to enjoy Iceland and do
> an open space at the same time - lot of fun with the jeeps as well I think.
>
> I hope your idea will grow and become thrue one day...
>
> Lise, Copenhagen
>
> Den 11-07-2013 10:04, K?ri Gunnarsson skrev:
> > I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to
> > host a moving open space.
> >
> > If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would
> > be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my
> > extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a
> > road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open
> > space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour
> > in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over
> > and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This
> > year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the
> > groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue
> > in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
> > changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the
> > possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that
> > protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our
> > papers in the jeeps.
> >
> > Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
> > impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would
> > need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take
> > with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion
> > group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place
> > names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a
> > group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir
> > site.
> >
> > The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site
> > guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries
> > along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other
> > maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and
> > informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the
> > jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the
> > sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I
> > would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the
> > site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual
> > dimension of the discussion.
> >
> > In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep
> > traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open
> > space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would
> > need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
> > application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
> >
> > There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is
> > that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building
> > when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups
> > to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going
> > on with the business that matters.
> >
> > Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome.
> > _______________________________________________
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:33:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: chunili2000 at yahoo.com
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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>
> Interesting discussion...
> Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to discover and I also
> want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going on their
> own.?" What do THEY want?
> ?
> I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly conveyed?from the
> outset?is who's responsible for the outcomes of the meeting? If you are,
> and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure certain things
> happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are simply providing an
> environment that allows them to be their own leaders and be responsible for
> their?own passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction, there
> is something to be learned?about themselves.
> ?
> I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the least amount of
> time is wasted.
> ?
> ?
> ?
> Chuni Li
> ?
>
> ?
> From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com>
> To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>
>
>
> Harrison,
>
> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO
> confidence," "about what is going on."?
> That's ?good ?material for me to think about as I approach future group
> work.?
> I am touched by your Kathie story. ?Kathie's respect for you came out in a
> conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really
> steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember
> you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle,
> can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open Space
> and joint?design team?sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to
> support the group and deliver a quick start. ?I want the organizational team
> to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps of how
> to get going on their own.?
> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of
> control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling ?and stay up.
>
> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence, clarity
> or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we
> may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.??
> >?
> >Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I
> have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in all
> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the
> contrary, ?I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real clue
> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque...
> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them
> to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible, get
> out of the way. Usually to take a napJ
> >?
> >And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she didn?t
> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it
> could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
> all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.
> >Harrison
> >?
> >?
> >?
> >Harrison Owen
> >7808 River Falls Dr.
> >Potomac, MD 20854
> >USA
> >?
> >189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> >Camden, Maine 04843
> >?
> >Phone 301-365-2093
> >(summer)? 207-763-3261
> >?
> >www.openspaceworld.com
> >www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
> >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >?
> >From:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [
> mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
> On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
> >
> >To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
> >?
> >Hi Harrison,
> >?
> >Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and
> be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
> >I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly,"?and the authenticity of how
> you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
> >Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all
> situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.?
> >Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
> consciously the participants' process.
> >?
> >Scott
> >?
> >On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation with
> large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it
> all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and
> more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just
> got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the
> opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with the
> show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real business
> issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and from there
> on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create bulletin
> board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else needed.
> >?
> >Harrison
> >?
> >Harrison Owen
> >7808 River Falls Dr.
> >Potomac, MD 20854
> >USA
> >?
> >189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
> >Camden, Maine 04843
> >?
> >Phone 301-365-2093
> >(summer)? 207-763-3261
> >?
> >http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/
> >http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website)
> >To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
> >?
> >From:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [
> mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
> On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> >To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> >Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
> >?
> >Hi Sharon Joy,
> >?
> >Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> imagination.
> >Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of
> a laid back?
> >OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> logistics. I?
> >want people to?see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> through?
> >well planned OS tasks.?
> >I think about the?outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> with. I try to?
> >get clear on their?goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> preceding?
> >any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> positioned?
> >influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and
> confirm sought?
> >desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important
> topics
> >for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I
> would also?
> >encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> serve as?
> >spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
> >However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or
> two to share their?
> >hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> topics as examples?
> >for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> performance?
> >system"sought.
> >?
> >This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.
> >I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.
> >?
> >Scott Gassman
> >?
> >?
> >?
> >On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:
> >Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4
> hours.
> >
> >This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on
> the Philippine government service, its performance management system and
> how it can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
> >
> >Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
> >
> >Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
> >
> >Maraming Salamat.
> >
> >========================================
> >Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> >SEAMEO INNOTECH
> >Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> >Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> >Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> >Fax (632) 928-7692
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >?
> >--
> >Scott Gassman
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> >scott.gassman at gmail.com
> >http://www.ideajuices.com/
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
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> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:38:20 +0200
> From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
> To: chunili2000 at yahoo.com, World wide Open Space Technology email list
> <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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> Hello: Responding to the question about an OS for a large group but  e few
> hours I agree with Lisa and I want to say that yes it is very importqnt to
> have a lot os space for the agenda. I had 320 participants last week and
> this was a problem because they had problems getting to the wall to read.
> For the closing circle they helped put the chairs back in circles and I
> just took a few interventions but it was really interesting!
>
> Adriana
>
> 2013/7/11 <chunili2000 at yahoo.com>
>
> > Interesting discussion...
> > Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to discover and I also
> > want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going on their
> > own. " What do THEY want?
> >
> > I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly conveyed from the
> > outset is who's responsible for the outcomes of the meeting? If you are,
> > and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure certain things
> > happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are simply providing
> an
> > environment that allows them to be their own leaders and be responsible
> for
> > their own passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction, there
> > is something to be learned about themselves.
> >
> > I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the least amount of
> > time is wasted.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chuni Li
> >
> >
> >
> >   *From:* Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com>
> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> > oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
> >
> > Harrison,
> >
> > I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO
> > confidence," "about what is going on."
> > That's  good  material for me to think about as I approach future group
> > work.
> > I am touched by your Kathie story.  Kathie's respect for you came out in
> a
> > conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really
> > steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember
> > you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the
> middle,
> > can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open
> Space
> > and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to
> > support the group and deliver a quick start.  I want the organizational
> > team to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps
> of
> > how to get going on their own.
> > I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of
> > control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling  and stay up.
> >
> > Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >  Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence,
> > clarity or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an
> > organization we may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially
> > filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
> > group movement.? ****
> > ** **
> > Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I
> > have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in all
> > situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the
> > contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real
> clue
> > about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving,
> opaque...
> > BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them
> > to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible,
> get
> > out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
> > ** **
> > And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> > greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she
> didn?t
> > use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it
> > could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
> > all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.****
> >  ****
> > Harrison****
> > ** **
> > ** **
> > ** **
> > Harrison Owen****
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
> > Potomac, MD 20854****
> > USA****
> > ** **
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
> > Camden, Maine 04843****
> > ** **
> > Phone 301-365-2093****
> > (summer)  207-763-3261****
> > ** **
> > www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/> ****
> > www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20/> (Personal Website)****
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> > OSLIST Go to:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> > ** **
> >  *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
> >
> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
> >  ** **
> > Hi Harrison,****
> >  ** **
> >  Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and
> > be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
> >  I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
> > you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.****
> >  Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all
> > situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> > and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> > shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
> >  Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie
> Dannemillerlessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the
> process
> > consciously the participants' process.****
> >  ** **
> >  Scott****
> >  ** **
> >  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> > wrote:****
> >  Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> > reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation
> > with large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people
> > do it all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is
> faster,
> > and more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You
> > just got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure
> the
> > opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with
> > the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real
> > business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and
> > from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle,
> create
> > bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else
> needed.**
> > **
> >  ****
> > Harrison****
> >  ****
> > Harrison Owen****
> > 7808 River Falls Dr.****
> > Potomac, MD 20854****
> > USA****
> >  ****
> > 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
> > Camden, Maine 04843****
> >  ****
> > Phone 301-365-2093****
> > (summer)  207-763-3261****
> >  ****
> > http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/ ****
> > http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website)****
> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> > OSLIST Go to:
> > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> >  ****
> >  *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> > oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> > *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
> >   ****
> > Hi Sharon Joy,****
> >   ****
> >  Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> > imagination.****
> >  Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of
> > a laid back ****
> >  OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> > logistics. I ****
> >  want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> > through ****
> >  well planned OS tasks. ****
> >  I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> > with. I try to ****
> >  get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> > preceding ****
> >  any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> > positioned ****
> >  influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and
> > confirm sought ****
> >  desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of
> > important topics****
> >  for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples.
> > I would also ****
> >  encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> > serve as ****
> >  spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
> >  However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or
> > two to share their ****
> >  hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> > topics as examples ****
> >  for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> > performance ****
> >  system"sought.****
> >   ****
> >  This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.****
> >  I also look forward to learning about your experience and next
> steps.****
> >   ****
> >  Scott Gassman****
> >   ****
> >   ****
> >   ****
> >  On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> > sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:****
> > Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> > through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4
> > hours.
> >
> > This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on
> the
> > Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
> it
> > can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
> >
> > Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> > suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
> >
> > Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> > time?
> >
> > Maraming Salamat.
> >
> > ========================================
> > Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> > SEAMEO INNOTECH
> > Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> > Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> > Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> > Fax (632) 928-7692
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > ****
> >   ****
> > --
> > Scott Gassman
> > IdeaJuice
> > (917) 951 - 0258
> > scott.gassman at gmail.com
> > http://www.ideajuices.com/
> >
> > America Speaks on Scott:
> >
> http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
> >
> > ****
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> >
> > ****
> >  ** **
> > --
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> > scott.gassman at gmail.com
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> >
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> >
> http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
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> >
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