[OSList] An offering! (Nasty Banks!)

Tue Jan 29 07:39:51 PST 2013

Eleder – As you may have noticed, we had a few problems with Banks here in
the USA. Some of it was due to outright incompetence, some to criminal greed
and  some more to simple mistakes (both honest and stupid). All told it
looked like another day in Human Land with the good, the bad, and the ugly
and a net result that Banks in general became #1 on the List of folks you
love to hate. Been there. 

But all that said, Banks are an essential part of our economic life and we
certainly need to take them to task when they do some of the darker things
that they did. At the same time I believe we need to encourage them when
they take some positive, albeit faltering steps, for example the video. Most
of all, Banks (like all other human institutions) desperately need some
broader open space. Having had several (banks) as clients I can say that
these poor folks ( and I really mean that) spend their lives in suffocating
conditions filled with rules, regulations, pecking orders, petty power plays
– to the point that they are isolated from each other and most especially
from the world beyond. One effect of this is that when some part of their
system goes seriously off the track and displays truly sick behavior, that
pathology is amplified by the closeness, not unlike a bad abscess. Carrying
the analogy – the first step towards a cure is to let in some fresh air and
light (open the space). Given the space/time the conscience of their
colleagues has a chance to clean things up, and when the space is opened
even wider, the whole community can render the same function. 

I don’t think this is rosy-eyed idealism
 Fact is, Banks are just another
part of humanity, and sh
 does happen. And when it does, some fresh air
helps. So it seems to me that anytime we have the opportunity to open some
space, we should seize that moment. Maybe the opening is just a little bit

but you have to start somewhere.

Harrison 

Harrison Owen

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[mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 6:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [OSList] An offering!

Harrison, my friend! I was curious on your opinion, thanks for sharing!

I try all my best not to be a sour puss, kill joy, Grinch,... :-)! You know
I really enjoy singing, dancing, laughing,...  but I have my own limits and
days, and I feel much better after expressing the shadows also.

Specially when (reading the previous messages) people seemed to ignore the
whole stuff (light and shadow), that was so apparent to me with this
commercial.

(Maybe I´m too sensitive with banks now. Last time suicides are on the
headlines -quite near Sabadell, the place of this bank and spot-, due to
people being taking out of the houses where they used to live, because they
are no more able to pay the loans they signed,... maybe just another
campaing?)

Sure "even banks can do it", of course there are nice people in banks,.. but
I still have a mix of feelings watching the commercial. 

And, concerning the subject of this list, I still think that the piece in
Sabadell seems quite different from self organized and emergent,
spontaneus,...

Thanks to this great conversation I recalled another commercial video
related to banks in Spain. This one was recorded in Sevilla some 2 years
ago. It´s not Beethoven, It´s a plain "rumba", but the lyrics are a real fun
;-)!

And the stuff seems to me much more real. There is even some conflict,
confussion, chaos at the end,... One can sense there was not much money for
the artists,  but lots of humour and spirit... Enjoy yourselves :-)!

http://in-fluyendo.blogspot.com.es/2011/01/ole.html

May people working for banks have soon the opportunity to participate in
regular OST events as the one described by Lisa to handle their/our main
issues and opportunities!

This day we will probably have one less thing to do (commercials :-) and the
whole community will join in joy and musical, artful spirit,... let´s dream
:-)!

Love,

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2013/1/28 Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>

Eleder – you old sour puss, kill joy, Grinch. Don’t you know that even Banks
can spread some joy? Actually any time anybody wants to do a commercial as
gorgeous as that one, I say bring it on! Sets a whole new standard that
needs to be repeated (IMHO – which thanks to Artur I now know what that
means). And since everything is open space (IMHO X 2), I guess even Banks
can do it. J 

ho

Harrison Owen

7808 River Falls Dr.

Potomac, MD 20854

USA

189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)

Camden, Maine 04843

Phone 301-365-2093

(summer)  207-763-3261

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[mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Eleder_BuM
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:10 AM

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Hi Anne and all friends around,

This music feels us with positivity, sure, and the stuff may resemble Open
Space,...

I´ll add, anyway, that..

*	it is a commercial for a bank (and this awakens not-so-uplifting
emotions inside me :-o) and
*	the concert seems quite different from self organized and emergent. 
*	...

long life and much love from Bilbao, on this bright day after some rainy
weeks,

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