[OSList] bridging two OS conferences

Sun Aug 18 22:37:27 PDT 2013

Have fun! It all sounds great, especially the motorbike ride. And indeed,
please keep us all posted. :-)

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[mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Thomas Herrmann
Verzonden: zondag 18 augustus 2013 23:08
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Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] bridging two OS conferences

thanks Koos, I like that idea of having the documentation/action plans
available for the second group and if anyone chooses to, they can look at
it. 
We will have a follow up meeting after about 2 weeks where the leadership
team and the sponsors of actions will meet to decide how to support the work
with the action plans - that may be the right time to talk about integration
of action plans, if they choose to. I will be clear about that opportunity -
for the second group especially.
Thanks for assisting me in my thinking - I feel more clear now Will let U
know how this goes (it's Mo-Tue + Thu-Fri next week) - but first there is an
OST training to facilitate and a NOSonOS to participate in - and a 600 km's
motorbike ride across the mountains to the fjords in Norway - sooo much fun!

Thomas

18 aug 2013 kl. 17:54 skrev Koos de Heer <koos at auryn.nl>:

> Hi Thomas,
> 
> Even if there is a group in the second conference that wants to work on a
> similar topic as in the first conference, would that be a big problem? You
> might connect the two groups later and they can figure out if they want to
> work together or not. I think I would certainly make the work of the first
> conference available for those in the second conference who are
interested,
> but I would not stress it too much. It would feel as closing the space -
> telling the group "there is already some work being done and you have to
> look at it first" feels awkward to me and not very Open.
> 
> Let creativity flow - and sometimes it seems that it is going to flow in a
> certain direction but then all of a sudden it takes a different corner an
> becomes something else. So even if a topic looks the same when it is
posted,
> it can end up to be something different.
> 
> Just my 2 cents. Knowing you, it will work well whatever the approach you
> choose - it is spirit that guides you.
> 
> Love
> 
> Koos
> 
> 
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> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Thomas Herrmann
> Verzonden: zondag 18 augustus 2013 16:53
> Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] bridging two OS conferences
> 
> Thanks for all the sharing and ideas.
> Where I am with our case now is that I will probably not make such a big
> thing about the sharing of reports from the first occasion. It will be
> posted somewhere if anyone is interested. I will also check with my
sponsors
> after the first 2-day OST, what they think is the best way.
> In each of the 2-day conferences we will devote the last half day to
action
> planning, the re-opening style (create the agenda and then two short
> sessions to make the action plans). Here I think there needs to be some
> integration, not to start parallel groups, working on the same idea.
> 
> The first conference will probably result in a number of action plans
(what?
> who? when? and each action plan having one person responsible to
> coordinate/communicate etc).
> 
> So, when we go to action planning in the second conference we will already
> have some action plans from the first 2 day conference. In my thinking so
> far, I have come up with two alternatives which I am not 100% happy with.
> 1. Have complete documentation from the 1st OST ready, including the
action
> plans. So, when the agenda for action planning is set I invite people to
> have a look at what their colleagues achieved and think about if you want
to
> integrate your action plan with one of those from the previous OST.
> 2. Have the action plans from the 1st OST on a wall, present them very
> brief, inviting anyone to continue working on any one of them or to bring
a
> different action up, a new one. 
> 
> What do you think? Any other ideas?
> Cheers
> Thomas (just arrived in Oslo - OST training Mo-Wed!)
> 
> 16 aug 2013 kl. 09:23 skrev Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>:
> 
>> ...even though he might never have heard of OST, this is how Ricardo 
>> Semler does his outfit in Brazil as reported on in his books 
>> "Maverick" and "The Seven-Day Weekend" (I see these books in English 
>> and Italian and Spanish on Amazon) ...and as done by Hans-Georg Wicke 
>> who has extensively worked with OST for 13 years in his outfit in 
>> Germany, as reported in an article that has appeared in an ebook (this 
>> book contains the report in three languages, German, English and 
>> Polish...a second addition with more languages added - French, 
>> Spanisch, Chinese - is in the making...available here directly at the 
>> publisher
>>> http://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Jugend-fuer-Europa-E-Book
>> or here at amazon
>>> http://www.amazon.de/Jugend-Europa-Jahre-Praxis-ebook/dp/B00CDU67H0/r
>>> ef=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1376636746&sr=1-2&keywords=Jugen
>>> d+f%C3%BCr+Europa
>> 
>> As far as documentation is concerned in OST events in sequence, I would
> generally also suggest to start "clean"... but most important, I think, I
> would have the sponsor/client and his Planning Group mull over this and
> think up something that best fits their purpose...
>> On a more broader level, I think documentation of the breakout sessions
is
> highly overrated... If the sponsor/client is interested in action planning
> and action itself that is initiated and pushed by the conveners of action
> (as described in your mail) documentation might be more important... it
does
> require a three day event with a really diverse group (in a hospital this
> would include the patients, among others) to come up with robust,
> sustainable etc. action..
>> But again, let the folks running their enterprise decide... I get the
> impression I and some others in this trade, concern ourselves far too much
> with matters which are the sponsor's/client's business.
>> In the first order I am not an OD consultant or consultant of whatever
> color (I am good at that and it gets into my way all the time) but a sort
of
> midman standing back, letting the forces of selforganisation do their
stuff.
>> 
>> Greetings from Berlin where I am spending increasing chunks of my days 
>> in minding the blackberries in our garden
>> 
>> mmp
>> 
>> 
>> On 16.08.2013 00:08, Kári Gunnarsson wrote:
>>> I have also done 2 open spaces (both 3 day, one afther another), for 
>>> a multinational assosiation of youth organizations. We tryed to i 
>>> plememt some notion on building on the work from the other groups. To 
>>> day I would not choose to do it that way, I think that I should 
>>> rather put my trust in the passion of the people that are present, 
>>> and start clean with the purpuse of the space. Then we can put it all 
>>> in one document and invite people to form formal planing and action 
>>> groups with support from management ( like to use the meeting rooms 
>>> and take time from other work within limits ). One of my clients 
>>> likes to think about the aftherwork as projects, and then give these 
>>> projects funing to rent the them selfes from the departments 
>>> management, then it is up to the team to sell there idea and get the
> funding wherever, whenever.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Kári Gunnarsson
>>> kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
>>> gsm: +354 8645189
>>> 
>>> 
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