[OSList] bridging two OS conferences

Sun Aug 18 17:55:06 PDT 2013

Dear Thomas, Inspired by everything you will be doing and I mean
EVERYTHING!

Relative to the two groups, it feels that you are leaving the space open
for people to see what each other is doing in a casual sort of way which
honors the individual creativity of each group. I love Koos' comments a bit
the way it happens when people suggest to the initiators to combine their
topics. Many times they don't and it often leads to something unique and
better than any could imagine.

I so appreciate the learning and sharing here and look forward to your
updates later.

Warm greetings and wishing you clear weather for the fjords motorbiking.
Suzanne

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Thomas Herrmann <
thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> wrote:

> thanks Koos, I like that idea of having the documentation/action plans
> available for the second group and if anyone chooses to, they can look at
> it.
> We will have a follow up meeting after about 2 weeks where the leadership
> team and the sponsors of actions will meet to decide how to support the
> work with the action plans - that may be the right time to talk about
> integration of action plans, if they choose to. I will be clear about that
> opportunity - for the second group especially.
> Thanks for assisting me in my thinking - I feel more clear now
> Will let U know how this goes (it's Mo-Tue + Thu-Fri next week) - but
> first there is an OST training to facilitate and a NOSonOS to participate
> in - and a 600 km's motorbike ride across the mountains to the fjords in
> Norway - sooo much fun!
> Thomas
>
>
> 18 aug 2013 kl. 17:54 skrev Koos de Heer <koos at auryn.nl>:
>
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > Even if there is a group in the second conference that wants to work on a
> > similar topic as in the first conference, would that be a big problem?
> You
> > might connect the two groups later and they can figure out if they want
> to
> > work together or not. I think I would certainly make the work of the
> first
> > conference available for those in the second conference who are
> interested,
> > but I would not stress it too much. It would feel as closing the space -
> > telling the group "there is already some work being done and you have to
> > look at it first" feels awkward to me and not very Open.
> >
> > Let creativity flow - and sometimes it seems that it is going to flow in
> a
> > certain direction but then all of a sudden it takes a different corner an
> > becomes something else. So even if a topic looks the same when it is
> posted,
> > it can end up to be something different.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents. Knowing you, it will work well whatever the approach you
> > choose - it is spirit that guides you.
> >
> > Love
> >
> > Koos
> >
> >
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Thomas Herrmann
> > Verzonden: zondag 18 augustus 2013 16:53
> > Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list
> > Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] bridging two OS conferences
> >
> > Thanks for all the sharing and ideas.
> > Where I am with our case now is that I will probably not make such a big
> > thing about the sharing of reports from the first occasion. It will be
> > posted somewhere if anyone is interested. I will also check with my
> sponsors
> > after the first 2-day OST, what they think is the best way.
> > In each of the 2-day conferences we will devote the last half day to
> action
> > planning, the re-opening style (create the agenda and then two short
> > sessions to make the action plans). Here I think there needs to be some
> > integration, not to start parallel groups, working on the same idea.
> >
> > The first conference will probably result in a number of action plans
> (what?
> > who? when? and each action plan having one person responsible to
> > coordinate/communicate etc).
> >
> > So, when we go to action planning in the second conference we will
> already
> > have some action plans from the first 2 day conference. In my thinking so
> > far, I have come up with two alternatives which I am not 100% happy with.
> > 1. Have complete documentation from the 1st OST ready, including the
> action
> > plans. So, when the agenda for action planning is set I invite people to
> > have a look at what their colleagues achieved and think about if you
> want to
> > integrate your action plan with one of those from the previous OST.
> > 2. Have the action plans from the 1st OST on a wall, present them very
> > brief, inviting anyone to continue working on any one of them or to
> bring a
> > different action up, a new one.
> >
> > What do you think? Any other ideas?
> > Cheers
> > Thomas (just arrived in Oslo - OST training Mo-Wed!)
> >
> > 16 aug 2013 kl. 09:23 skrev Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> ...even though he might never have heard of OST, this is how Ricardo
> >> Semler does his outfit in Brazil as reported on in his books
> >> "Maverick" and "The Seven-Day Weekend" (I see these books in English
> >> and Italian and Spanish on Amazon) ...and as done by Hans-Georg Wicke
> >> who has extensively worked with OST for 13 years in his outfit in
> >> Germany, as reported in an article that has appeared in an ebook (this
> >> book contains the report in three languages, German, English and
> >> Polish...a second addition with more languages added - French,
> >> Spanisch, Chinese - is in the making...available here directly at the
> >> publisher
> >>> http://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Jugend-fuer-Europa-E-Book
> >> or here at amazon
> >>> http://www.amazon.de/Jugend-Europa-Jahre-Praxis-ebook/dp/B00CDU67H0/r
> >>> ef=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1376636746&sr=1-2&keywords=Jugen
> >>> d+f%C3%BCr+Europa
> >>
> >> As far as documentation is concerned in OST events in sequence, I would
> > generally also suggest to start "clean"... but most important, I think, I
> > would have the sponsor/client and his Planning Group mull over this and
> > think up something that best fits their purpose...
> >> On a more broader level, I think documentation of the breakout sessions
> is
> > highly overrated... If the sponsor/client is interested in action
> planning
> > and action itself that is initiated and pushed by the conveners of action
> > (as described in your mail) documentation might be more important... it
> does
> > require a three day event with a really diverse group (in a hospital this
> > would include the patients, among others) to come up with robust,
> > sustainable etc. action..
> >> But again, let the folks running their enterprise decide... I get the
> > impression I and some others in this trade, concern ourselves far too
> much
> > with matters which are the sponsor's/client's business.
> >> In the first order I am not an OD consultant or consultant of whatever
> > color (I am good at that and it gets into my way all the time) but a
> sort of
> > midman standing back, letting the forces of selforganisation do their
> stuff.
> >>
> >> Greetings from Berlin where I am spending increasing chunks of my days
> >> in minding the blackberries in our garden
> >>
> >> mmp
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16.08.2013 00:08, Kári Gunnarsson wrote:
> >>> I have also done 2 open spaces (both 3 day, one afther another), for
> >>> a multinational assosiation of youth organizations. We tryed to i
> >>> plememt some notion on building on the work from the other groups. To
> >>> day I would not choose to do it that way, I think that I should
> >>> rather put my trust in the passion of the people that are present,
> >>> and start clean with the purpuse of the space. Then we can put it all
> >>> in one document and invite people to form formal planing and action
> >>> groups with support from management ( like to use the meeting rooms
> >>> and take time from other work within limits ). One of my clients
> >>> likes to think about the aftherwork as projects, and then give these
> >>> projects funing to rent the them selfes from the departments
> >>> management, then it is up to the team to sell there idea and get the
> > funding wherever, whenever.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Kári Gunnarsson
> >>> kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is <mailto:kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
> >>> gsm: +354 8645189
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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