[OSList] Certification?

Chris Weaver chrisgweaver13 at gmail.com
Sat Aug 10 18:33:22 PDT 2013


*so, whats so unfortunate about teaching?*
:-)  Dear Michael,*
*
Nothing, indeed...except that the demands are akin to a tsunami, and I will
have a hard time persuading myself that it's a good time for an hour at the
pub.
c.


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear Chris W.,
> so, whats so unfortunate about teaching?
> cheers
> mmp
>
>
> On 10.08.2013 16:53, Chris Weaver wrote:
>
>
>> Unfortunately I will begin teaching in about a week and my time will be
>> under much greater demands than in summer.  I'm also active in a most
>> inspiring response to the current alarming political situation in my
>> home state, including by using OST.  I'll at least be dropping by to
>> share how that goes.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Artur Silva <arturfsilva at yahoo.com
>> <mailto:arturfsilva at yahoo.com>**> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Chris:____
>>
>>
>>     Nice to see you back to a list were you were once a frequent
>>     contributor, until you had your time and interests diverted to
>>     another movement and list, as you have now explained. ____
>>
>>
>>     You were not, by the way, the only person that almost disappeared
>>     from this list. In fact, as I see it, it was like a schism, with
>>     some people that stayed beyond, for reasons that only they know, but
>>     anyone can speculate about.____
>>
>>
>>     I was not in your virtual table of the pub and could not taste the
>>     pinot noir, but it happens that I was in a close table, drinking an
>>     Oporto wine, and could not avoid listening to your interesting
>>     story.____
>>
>>     I think that there are a lot of interesting stuff in your post, that
>>     probably could give occasion to have (or repeat) discussions about,
>>     in other threads (one probably - again - about the "givens" question
>>     - if one does not want to search the archives; another about the
>>     history of what you have called the ""falling out"that apparently
>>     was at the origin of the schism, that has an historical interest,
>>     and maybe others on and off topic).____
>>
>>     But, for the moment, and to stay on topic, I would like to remember
>>     that you wrote:____
>>
>>     «When I completed the Genuine Contact "Working with OST" workshop, I
>>     received a certificate, but not a certification.  (The distinction
>>     is important because there was no intention on the workshop leader's
>>     part to evaluate my "competence" in any way.)»____
>>
>>
>>     I could not understand the difference between "certificate" and
>>     "certification" (maybe I had already drunk too much Oporto wine or,
>>     more probably, the cause is my lack of English proficiency...).
>>     Could you be so kind to please elaborate a bit more about what is
>>     the difference between the two concepts?____
>>
>>     Thank you and best regards____
>>     Artur ____
>>
>>     ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>> ------------
>>     *From:* Chris Weaver <chrisgweaver13 at gmail.com
>>     <mailto:chrisgweaver13 at gmail.**com <chrisgweaver13 at gmail.com>>>
>>
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>>     *Sent:* Friday, August 9, 2013 5:45 AM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Certification?
>>
>>
>>     Greetings All,
>>
>>     Ah, I can't resist jumping in to stir the pot.  It is an honor to
>>     join a thread peopled by so many folks whom I respect (and
>>     appreciate and love) so much.  I invite you to settle in for rather
>>     a long story, which may, at some point, have something to do with
>>     "certification."
>>
>>     After learning of Open Space in Anne Stadler's kitchen, I walked
>>     around as a newbie at the OSonOS in Monterrey (the one fifteen years
>>     ago, from which Harrison was unexpectedly absent, due to a nasty
>>     flu, I believe), with my jaw hanging open to meet so many bold and
>>     brilliant facilitators (I remember especially Michael P, Alan
>>     Stewart, Brian Bainbridge, Roxy, and Birgitt Bolton) sharing stories
>>     that I sweetly strove to wrap my head at least half-way around.
>>
>>     For a few years I engaged actively on the OSLIST as I began to
>>     facilitate some OST meetings (without even "finishing the book," as
>>     I recall) in the Seattle school where I worked as a teacher.  In
>>     1999 I landed here in North Carolina, where I attended my first OST
>>     workshop as part of the Genuine Contact Program with Birgitt
>>     (Bolton) Williams who had recently landed a few hours away.
>>
>>     Now I will say that I have an assumption only that at around that
>>     time there was something of a "falling out" between Birgitt and her
>>     work and the work of some other OS facilitators.  I do not know, nor
>>     need to know, the details.  But I do know that there are some points
>>     of practice that have generated some heated passion in the community
>>     and that I think are worthy of putting on the storytelling table.
>>       (I know that there is not supposed to be a table, but I suddenly
>>     imagine myself with Jeff, Chris, Peggy, Harrison, Michael in a pub
>>     somewhere with a rough wooden table, on which I am happily uncorking
>>     a bottle of pinot noir.)
>>
>>     When I completed the Genuine Contact "Working with OST" workshop, I
>>     received a certificate, but not a certification.  (The distinction
>>     is important because there was no intention on the workshop leader's
>>     part to evaluate my "competence" in any way.)  Based on my
>>     participation in the four-day experience, I could, if I chose, refer
>>     to myself as an authorized "Genuine Contact professional."  The
>>     workshop included an exploration of the form & essence of OST, as
>>     gifted so effectively in Harrison's /User's Guide. /The workshop
>>
>>     also shared some suggested approaches and tools for working in depth
>>     with the sponsor of an OST meeting (usually a leadership team within
>>     an organization), both prior to and after the OST event.  My own
>>     understanding is that, by referring to myself as a GC professional
>>     if I chose, I would be sharing the simple message that I had had
>>     exposure to the approach of using OST that included these pre- and
>>     post-OST meeting practices and tools.  The choice of whether and how
>>     to apply these practices and tools was up to me.
>>
>>     So that is the part that relates to this thread topic of
>>     certification.  As a practitioner, I honor the open-source nature of
>>     OST as Harrison's "discovery" and gift to the world.  I refer people
>>     to the /User's Guide/ (and also the /Non-User's Guide /and other
>>
>>     community resources) frequently.
>>
>>     As an aside, I continued in the years that followed to participate
>>     in workshops on other methodologies that are shared through the
>>     Genuine Contact Program (most notably /Whole Person Process
>>     Facilitation/, which I use very often).  I collaborated with my
>>
>>     Genuine Contact colleagues around the world in developing the
>>     minimal appropriate structure for our international community.  I
>>     participated in many mentoring circles, completed the Train the
>>     Trainer workshop, and became one of the 43 "co-owners" of the
>>     program.  I also shifted my virtual community participation to the
>>     GC List, and dropped off of the OSLIST for a number of years.  (I am
>>     enjoying being back.)
>>
>>     So here, the plot thickens :-).  One of the practices included in
>>     the GC "Working with OST" workshop is the use of...the "givens."
>>       So, lubricated with wine, I am going to place the notion of givens
>>     on the wooden storytelling table for our enjoyment.  (This is worthy
>>     of its own thread, of course, but I'll just keep going here.)
>>
>>     I have only infrequently worked as an external
>>     consultant/facilitator.  Most of my work with OST has been within
>>     schools and community organizations.  Over the years, I have come to
>>     value highly the practices I learned in the GCP of working with the
>>     sponsor prior to and after an OST (and I know that among other OST
>>     facilitators, pre- and post- meetings such as these are skillfully
>>     used and valued).
>>
>>     In my experience, the purpose of careful preparation with the
>>     sponsoring team is to assist them in considering the state of their
>>     organization.  What is the story-line that has brought them to
>>     considering an OST meeting?  What's happening in terms of the grief
>>     cycle within their organization?  What (deeply now) is the /purpose/
>>     of the meeting?  What (deeply now) is the /context? /Basically, I
>>
>>     ask the questions, and the team has the conversations.  All this I
>>     explicitly place in the reality that when you sponsor an OST, there
>>     is not, nor should there be, any turning back.
>>
>>     I use the givens as an essential tool in this process.  I draw a
>>     circle on a flip chart and say, If this circle represents the open
>>     space, what are the non-negotiables that form the parameters of the
>>     open space?
>>
>>     In the past, there have been passionate objections to this practice
>>     on this list, based, I think, on the belief that to establish givens
>>     is to close the space before it is even opened.  My long-haul
>>     experience within organizations has taught me something different.
>>
>>     What happens when I ask what the non-negotiables are is that a bunch
>>     of stuff goes up on the flip chart.  Then, I probe each one, and
>>     ask, "Is this REALLY a given at this time for this meeting?"  The
>>     fifteen givens get whittled down to twelve, and then eight, and then
>>     maybe five (ish).  As you can imagine, the level of trust that
>>     organizational leaders have in the people plays in heavily.  I let
>>     it be.  I cannot make them trust more; I can only model trust, and
>>     hold space for trust.
>>
>>     But I also find that the few givens that remain are, every time,
>>     very important and meaningful.  Some examples:  Perhaps the
>>     organizational purpose is a given, and perhaps there is value in
>>     re-sharing the organizational purpose at the start of the OST.
>>       Perhaps there has been a year of good work by a sub-group within
>>     the organization that has culminated in a policy that not everyone
>>     attending the OST is aware of, and that policy is a given.  Perhaps
>>     a "law of the land" that administrators, but not all participants,
>>     know about is a given.  Perhaps it is a given that the organization
>>     will stay within a certain budget, and any ideas generated beyond
>>     the budget will have to include the funding source to support them.
>>
>>     Yes, the givens are shared with the group at the start of the OST.
>>       In my experience, this does not close the space, but rather it
>>     opens the space clearly and honestly.  More importantly, it is a
>>     tool for building trust.  When participants hear their formal
>>     organizational leaders share, clearly and transparently, what the
>>     givens are, they are more trusting that their own ideas will be
>>     honored after the meeting and not squelched.
>>
>>     And this is what happens.  Using givens is a way to profoundly
>>     mitigate the phenomenon, with which any seasoned OST facilitator is
>>     familiar, of leadership freaking out and clamping down on the
>>     results of an OST.  The practice does not (thankfully) prevent the
>>     productive chaos and re-framing that happens after the meeting, but
>>     it greatly reduces the phenomenon of /reactionary fear/ on the part
>>
>>     of formal leadership.  The result is that leadership is more
>>     inclined to sponsor another OST soon, and indeed to invite other
>>     groups withing the organization to utilize OST themselves.
>>
>>     Perhaps because I have worked inside organizations for many years, I
>>     have a deep respect for the challenges that formal leaders face.
>>       Perhaps an organization is possible without any formal leaders,
>>     but I have not yet encountered this.  In the school where I work,
>>     there is a fragile and indeed even tender respect for our formal
>>     leaders whose responsibility it is to hold the space for the
>>     organization in the community.  When leadership is in its integrity,
>>     followership is a natural and beautiful thing.
>>
>>     Okay, I will pour the last of the bottle into all the glasses.
>>       Sadly, I won't hear your fine words until tomorrow, but so it is,
>>     according to the odd and illusory parameters of space & time.
>>
>>     Take Care, with Love,
>>     Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Donna Read
>>     <donna.read at managing4wellness.**org<donna.read at managing4wellness.org>
>>     <mailto:donna.read@**managing4wellness.org<donna.read at managing4wellness.org>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>         Amen to that, Harrison!  Blessings, Donna
>>
>>         Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>         On Aug 8, 2013, at 17:36, "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net
>>         <mailto:hhowen at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>
>>          Jeff – as a sometime perpetrator and totally confused
>>>         (certifiable) I can attest that if at any point I were to
>>>         intimate that I actually knew what I was doing, that would be
>>>         a significant error. However I feel quite comfortable in my
>>>         not-knowing if only because the “process” (OST) is not
>>>         something I “do.” Under the best of circumstances my
>>>         contribution is to invite folks to do what they already know
>>>         how to do – to be what they already are. It always works, and
>>>         it works even better when I get out of the way. ____
>>>
>>>         __ __
>>>         Harrison____
>>>         __ __
>>>
>>
>>
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