[OSList] Certification?

paul levy paul at cats3000.net
Fri Aug 9 23:59:00 PDT 2013


Sounds like dogma to me, Harrison.

On Saturday, 10 August 2013, Carmela Ariza wrote:

> Dear HO and the rest of OS loving colleagues,
>
> While reading again fully and partly the sharing/discussion on
> certification and now this - point of Harrison on "I will be the first to
> cheer the departure of OST...."
>
> Somehow my poem that I wrote this morning resonates with the ongoing
> discussion. Allow me to share this....
>
> Holding Things Lightly
> by: Carmela Ariza
> 5:55AM, 10 August 2013
>
> Allow me
> To hold things lightly
> For when I cling to them
> I loose sight
> Of the more beautiful
> Of the more important
> And the more fulfilling
> Things in life
>
> When I have an idea
> Give me the wisdom
> To hold it lightly
> That I may give room
> For this idea to grow
> Along with other ideas
> Acknowledging
> Collective wisdom
>
> When I have an opinion
> Whether about an issue
> Or about a person
> Or even an event
> Allow me to hold this opinion
> Lightly
> So that I could lend an ear
> To other opinions I hear
>
> When I have something
> I call my favorite thing
> Allow me to hold it lightly
> So that I will not hold it
> Too tightly
> Grasping for more
> Never letting go
> Hurting myself or others
>
> When I hold someone dearly
> Allow me to relax my grip
> On the one I love
> So that she may grow
> Through and with others
> Affirming my part
> As well as the role of others
> In forming and shaping my beloved
>
> When I am so attached to my life
> Allow me to see beyond this life
> And when the end is near
> I shall gracefully exit
> Not fearing
> Nor doubting
> That this road ahead
> Is where I am meant to be
>
> Help me to hold things lightly
> Suspending my thoughts
> Making space for something new
> Stepping back
> Taking a different view
> Confirming, disconfirming
> Breathing in, breathing out
> Simply letting go
>
> All the best to all! Have a good weekend!
>
> Carms
>
>
> *If there is to be any peace it will come through being, not having. --
> Henry Miller*
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>  *From:* Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
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> *Sent:* Saturday, 10 August 2013, 8:14
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Certification?
>
> Paul – it ain’t Dogma – just experience. If the experience changes, change
> the story. And that is what we are – Story Tellers. And the Tale has yet to
> be fully told. One thing I am absolutely clear about. We didn’t invent it.
> And certainly I didn’t invent it. Been going on for 14.7 billion years, and
> we are just catching up – just barely. Wherever it happens is the right
> place. We just have to keep out eyes open. And Be prepared to be surprised.
> I will be the first to cheer the departure of Open Space Technology. It is,
> and always has been in my mind a “half-way technology.” Something we do
> until we can easily and openly do the real thing. Which paradoxically is
> nothing new and nothing strange. Just what we do, and what we are. So relax
> Paul... the story is just getting started....
>
> Harrison
>
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> *Sent:* Friday, August 09, 2013 7:23 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Certification?
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> The problem, dear colleagues, is that if you fix this as dogma...
>
> For me it all comes down to this:
> ·         5 Conditions of Use
> ·         A few logistics
> ·         Circle
> ·         5 Principles
> ·         Law of 2 feet
> ·         Be Prepared to be Surprised
> ·         Trust the People
> ... Then you have killed the space for change. What Harrison calls (also
> dogmatically) "the genuine article" sets up a tragic polarity between
> genuine or NOT genuine.
>
> George W Bush did the same in the Iraq war: "Either you are with us or you
> are against us"
>
> Harrison will take this "genuine article" dogma to his grave. Shame.
>
> Certification even arises at all because of this false dogma. It has drawn
> it in by becoming a blueprint. Oh dear.
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