[OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours - The Report

[Sharon Joy Chao]

Just two weeks ago I had this interesting experience of opening space for 
1,100 (yes, the number swelled) under 4 hours. You probably remember the 
massive exchange in OSList on how to convene under these conditions as we 
burned the line talking about the merit of this assignment. The extent of 
our discussion was remarkable for it showed the depth of wisdom and 
passion attached to the practice with ideas flying from one side of the 
globe to the other. 

It started with an invitation to a two-day symposium on performance 
management system in government service. And because it’s a symposium 
there were 6 speakers lined up including a dozen others for concurrent 
sessions. Day 1 had a couple of plenary and concurrent sessions. Open 
Space was slated in the morning of Day 2 followed by a formal symposium 
integration and closure in the afternoon. This was the first time HR 
people in government are called together, and there was a good mix of 
people from national agencies, government corporations, state universities 
and local government units in attendance.
The open space session focused on making performance management system 
(PMS) in public service truly essential, responsive and life giving. 
Sitting through Day 1 presentations and forums made me realize that the 
audience have compelling stories to tell in addition to having contending 
views on how to move PMS in their agency. This prompted me to check my own 
motivation as I worked with government in the past and I know that PMS has 
always been a thorny issue in the service. I need to bring respect to 
everyone involved and there’s no sense adding my own ideas and arrogance 
to the issue.
Bits and pieces of the process I used that somehow worked despite the 
number and the time configuration:
·       Space was tight to include provision of an open space in the 
middle, but the hotel staff did an incredible job of assembling 5 layers 
of chairs in concentric circle. With this arrangement a thousand chairs 
almost reached the wall but then again that’s fine as there was ample 
space for people to move in the center. To facilitate movement an open 
aisle was provided from four points of the room so what we actually had 
was an open circle.

·       Opening was limited to an hour with 15-minute sponsorship and a 
walkthrough of the theme and the OST process. The whole spiel gave me time 
to completely/slowly walk the circle to establish some degree of proximity 
with the participants. The rest of the hour was spent getting people to 
queue and publicly announce their topics.

·       Convenors used placards (illustration board stapled on three-foot 
bamboo stick) instead of papers to publish their topics. There was no 
marketplace because the market was mobile. It was messy, disorderly and 
fun when convenors started to go around the room for membership, while the 
rest decide which topic to join. The decision to use placards was brought 
about by hotel’s policy not to stick anything on the wall, and this policy 
actually worked to everyone’s advantage.

·       It helped to talk about chaos openly and early on. There’s no way 
I can manage a thousand in four hours; and the only other thing left was 
expect chaos, accept it, and work it to my advantage. At the same time I 
remained calm and secure despite the seeming disarray inside the room 
especially when people start standing up and moving into groups. It’s 
essential to coach the sponsor to expect it. The analogy I used to 
convince them was that of a  wedding event, one can think things through 
and organize it to death but then again things don’t usually turn out as 
planned. I also told the participants to expect chaos, learn to live with 
the mess and love it.

·       When all the topics were declared (about a hundred), I realize it 
did not make sense sticking to the original plan of having two one-hour 
session, despite the color coded placards and instructions for groups to 
have two separate time frames. With placards on hand, people immediately 
self organized. Not even those sticky numbers posted (yes, this was the 
only concession we got from the hotel) made sense at this point. 
Respecting that tendency, I decided not to call for two sessions but 
instead do a two-hour session on the topics generated. This two hour event 
gave convenors ample time not only to convene their group and discuss the 
topic but also time to review and enrich the report. 

·       Wonderful suggestion never to let go of the microphone especially 
during the queuing for topics and the closing of circle when a drove 
wanted to speak. We apportioned an hour for closing the circle, with about 
20 people sharing their thoughts on the process and how they plan to move 
forward with PMS in their agency.

·       What worked for me in closing the circle was having someone to 
anchor it and in this case it was the Chair of the Civil Service 
Commission. This was very strategic as one can’t get any higher than this 
guy. Commitments were made on the results of the OS discussion including 
the commitment to  hold an annual gathering of HR people in public 
service.

·       I worked with one other friend in convening the circle. Having one 
person to do the walk is fine but it’s important to have someone to help 
hold the space with me, someone to ground me and to help make sense of the 
pulse of those in the circle which can easily be missed when one is caught 
up with things.

·       I remember Harrison saying that opening spaces is a dance and we 
can dance beautifully yet we should not be caught in it (I added some 
words here, not sure if he agrees). It’s this balancing act that keeps me 
grounded and calm but also allowed me to gently take rein of things when 
necessary to secure the space, and it worked especially in opening and 
closing of the space. In the end, OST became an act of accepting whatever 
comes and letting go whatever goes.

Preparing the self or what works for me two weeks ago:

·       I learn to love the mess and expect that nothing can be completely 
accounted for. I talk about it with the organizers, cue people who are in 
the circle and most importantly I embrace it like a mother embraces a 
child and just let it be without losing myself to it.

·       I learn to connect...I am passionate about this assignment as I 
worked with government for 14 years before joining my present job. There 
was deep connection between my need to serve and the intention of this 
gathering, and this was instructive in the way I prepared myself for the 
assignment. I drew strength from my love of government service, that I did 
not worry myself senseless unlike my previous OS engagements. I eased up 
and just refused to get caught in the usual pre-work worries. Don’t get me 
wrong pre-work is important and I’m glad I had a group of young women 
backing me on the details. But at the personal level, this engagement was 
unique as I dig deep and spend more time settling down. I also had a good 
night rest before opening the circle, so unlike the past. And there was a 
conscious attempt to stop talking the night before, not only outside but 
also inside. I practiced noble silence, ending the talk from the mouth and 
the mind. This is graceful silence and a very powerful one, it’s the 
silence that heals and nourishes, same energy I brought to the circle the 
next day.

·       I learn to hack my way through and think on my feet. The ways of 
OST never fail to surprise me, it served me on what I know would work yet 
there’s no one way. I learn that there are many possible ways of moving 
forward, and it is by challenging and provoking what I already know that 
helps. What is universal and unchanging, what stays are the principles and 
the law, in whatever arrangements or configuration these are the things 
that stick. The rest is as experimental as catching the wave.

·       I learn to stay humble and step back from a prescribed program 
that’s already agreed upon but at the same time fearless despite what 
others say because in the end it's also about that one solitary person in 
the middle of the circle. It’s important to be open to the flow and to 
feel one’s way through the crowd, just as we do in real life. 
_________________

For better appreciation of this experience, I’ve uploaded some photos in 
my Facebook account. 
Again, thank you for seeing me through this assignment.






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1. Fwd:  1,000 participants in 4 hours (Suzanne Daigle)


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Dear Sharon Joy,

I am sending you my love and great "joy" that you have been asked to
facilitate this large and diverse group.

In Open Space, they say whoever comes are the right people and you my dear
are the "right facilitator".  You are already opening space so beautifully
for this event, with many on the OS list and in your midst coming forward
to contribute their great wisdom, experience and support because you have
extended the invitation.

By simply asking and sharing, what wondrous space you are opening already.
What a gift to each of us, reading all that has been contributed. The
future and possibilities are being created before our eyes.

You say in your note: "I pray for humility to open the circle, and 
strength
to step aside once the circle is open."

Is this not the beautiful yin and yang of life!  The pull of the opposites
-- the opposite of humility, the opposite of strength that we humans
struggle with so much. The walking into the unknowing that requires much
courage, wondering if we are enough to open such a big space.  Know that 
we
are walking with you, Sharon Joy.

I would not be able to offer any pearls of wisdom on the logistics of a
large group like this, not having had that experience.

Yet in my heart of heart, guided by those beautiful OS principles, that 
law
and the "be prepared to be surprised", breathing in deeply, I know you 
will
be opening beautiful space.  You will be inviting others to "experience 
the
magic" of Open Space just as we did together at WOSonOS in Taiwan where we
first met, in those early days of Open Space for each us...and now in that
short time, it has led to this!  The opportunity to open space for 1000
government Philippine people who want  to create a truly essential,
energizing and responsive performance management system? Like wow how very
cool is that!

I want to also thank you Sharon Joy. Because of what you posted and all 
the
wonderful replies that it invited,   the dual role of the facilitator came
into sharper focus for me:  the "doing" and the "not doing".

I saw more clearly the important  practical role of having all the
logistics in place, simply and effectively, from the fine details of the
traffic patterns to the basics of preparing an Open Space and then the 
more
spiritual role of opening, holding and closing space with no attachment to
outcome, just trusting the process. This too invites a duality, the 
duality
of organizing lightly and effectively and then letting go.

In the end, however it happens, the gift is that space will be opened for
people to engage on what they care about.


Suzanne








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From: Sharon Joy Chao <sharon at seameo-innotech.org>
Date: Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
To: "oslist at lists.openspacetech.org" <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>


Its overwhelming reading through all the exchanges and good intentions my
request has generated. I read  each mail and can't help but smile at the
treasure trove of ideas.

First off, the 1,000 participants in 4 hours, is definitely pushing 
through
in Cebu. As its a big event, theres a team that's helping me and  doing
much of the pre work on the ground. The venue is a huge hotel ballroom
enough to accommodate over 2,000 so space is not much of a worry. I was
shown pictures, the ballroom is squarish with high ceiling.  Now here's 
the
catch, initially we thought of deploying balloons much like how Michael 
has
done in Germany some years back. But the hotel won't allow balloons inside
the hall, and also do not permit sticking anything on the wall. So, we are
left with following options: either to use the laundry line complete with
laundry clips or placards, which can be raised for people to see.

I like the suggestion of Chris, as its something I can use to close the
circle. Some tweaking so it reads like this..."what did we learn in this
open space gathering and what do we need to do to support the momentum?" 
Of
course I still need to work with  Civil Service people to make sense of 
the
results and also to post the same question to them.

Btw, this OST event happens within a two-day symposium on Performance
Management System. And Harrison is right, there are tons of speakers on 
day
1, day 2 starts with open space in the morning. The big question paused to
them is this: What bold steps can we take to create a truly essential,
energizing and responsive performance management system? Additional
speakers take over in the afternoon mainly for government pronouncements.

The participants are government HR, OD and planning people, local
government and some private sector representatives. There might not be 
that
much exposure for deep engagement, but I'd still take this assignment
anytime.

To touch base with as many government agencies and be able to open the
discussion on performance management; to have this engagement even for 
just
four hours and get government to seriously consider the kind of system
that gives life to the service...these are enough incentives for me to
accept the assignment.

>From the practice of open space I learn to adopt a beginner's mind, one
that's open to possibility, a don't know mind, this coupled with the
practice of quieting the mind, prepares me to gracefully enter the circle.
I pray for humility to open the circle, and strength to step aside once 
the
circle is open. And yes, 15 min is enough time to set the space.

The program, thanks to your suggestions is more streamlined...one hour
opening/issue generation; two one- hour sessions and another hour for
closing the circle.

I truly can't thank everyone enough. Sending my love to Harrison, Lisa and
Franklin, and all those who are kind enough to play through the
configuration of 1,000 under 4 hours. I'll get back to you and share how 
it
goes. That would be something to look forward to :)

Metta,
Sharon Joy


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Today's Topics:

1. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Scott Gassman)
2. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Harrison Owen)
3. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Chris Corrigan)
4. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Scott Gassman)
5. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (K?ri Gunnarsson)
6. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Michael M Pannwitz)
7. open space in jeeps (K?ri Gunnarsson)
8. Re: open space in jeeps (gerardo de luzenberger)
9. Re: open space in jeeps (K?ri Gunnarsson)


10. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (Harrison Owen)
11. Re: open space in jeeps (Lise Damkj?r)
12. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours (chunili2000 at yahoo.com)
13. Re: 1,000 participants in 4 hours
(Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring)


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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 17:00:37 -0400
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Hi Harrison,

Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and 
be
hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all 
situations
to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in and/or the
process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can
slow down the speed of large group movement.
Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
consciously the participants' process.

Scott

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

> Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation
with
> large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it
> all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, 
and
> more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You 
just
> got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the
> opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with
> the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real
> business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and
> from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, 
create
> bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else 
needed.**
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> Hi Sharon Joy,****
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> ** **
>
> Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> imagination.****
>
> Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of 
a
> laid back ****
>
> OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> logistics. I ****
>
> want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> through ****
>
> well planned OS tasks. ****
>
> I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> with. I try to ****
>
> get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> preceding ****
>
> any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> positioned ****
>
> influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and 
confirm
> sought ****
>
> desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of 
important
> topics****
>
> for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. 
I
> would also ****
>
> encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> serve as ****
>
> spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>
> However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or 
two
> to share their ****
>
> hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> topics as examples ****
>
> for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> performance ****
>
> system"sought.****
>
> ** **
>
> This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.****
>
> I also look forward to learning about your experience and next 
steps.****
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> ** **
>
> Scott Gassman****
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> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:****
>
> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 
4
> hours.
>
> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on 
the
> Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
it
> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>
> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
>
> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
>
> Maraming Salamat.
>
> ========================================
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Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO) confidence, clarity
or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we
may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group 
movement."



Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different take. Truth is I 
have
ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my "competence in all
situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement." Quite to the
contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real 
clue
about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque...
BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them 
to
do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as possible, get 
out
of the way. Usually to take a napJ



And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she 
didn't
use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be terrified ... it
could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing to lose.

Harrison







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Potomac, MD 20854

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Hi Harrison,



Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and 
be
hopefully clearer about her design decisions.

I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how 
you
have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.

Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all 
situations
to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in and/or the
process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can 
slow
down the speed of large group movement.

Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
consciously the participants' process.



Scott



On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any 
reason
to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every situation with large
groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the people do it all by
themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and more
furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just got 
to
get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make sure the opening 
was
fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on with the show! Of
course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real business issue,
complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and from there on out
the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create bulletin board,
open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed.



Harrison



Harrison Owen

7808 River Falls Dr.

Potomac, MD 20854

USA



189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)

Camden, Maine 04843



Phone 301-365-2093

(summer)  207-763-3261



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On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours



Hi Sharon Joy,



Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
imagination.

Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a
laid back

OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
logistics. I

want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
through

well planned OS tasks.

I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away 
with.
I try to

get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
preceding

any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
positioned

influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm
sought

desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important
topics

for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I
would also

encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
serve as

spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.

However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two
to share their

hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
topics as examples

for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
performance

system"sought.



This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.

I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.



Scott Gassman







On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao 
<sharon at seameo-innotech.org>
wrote:

Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go 
through
an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours.

This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the
Philippine government service, its performance management system and how 
it
can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.

Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.

Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours 
time?


Maraming Salamat.

========================================
Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
SEAMEO INNOTECH
Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
Fax (632) 928-7692


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Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 15:47:45 -0700
From: Chris Corrigan <chris at chriscorrigan.com>
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Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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Agreeing with Harrison here.

Lisa has given some great advice.  If you were going to make it possible 
to
host 1000 people in Open Space for 4 hours, Lisa's detailed list gives you
your best shot of doing that and being successful.

Don't be fooled though...this is a huge ask to do this well.  The largest
group I ever hosted was about 600 people and honestly, the thought of 
doing
that in a half day is truly overwhelming.  You need a large team with you
to make sure the logistics flow and make sure that people can find where
they need to go in a timely way.  But 1000 people moving about in a space
is a really big ask, and that takes WAAAAY more time than you think it
will. And God forbid someone calls a session and 75 people show up because
it is rich and juicy - just being able to be heard and get a few comments
in will be challenging.

As for the design teams idea, that one is really simple.  With a crowd of
1000 people all proposing and hosting conversations I think having a few
people predetermine some trigger topics will give a false sense of comfort
that they are actually able to be influential.  The fact is that 1000
people are ALREADY talking and this Open Space will simply make that all
visible.  To host this in Open Space you simply HAVE to have confidence in
your ability to stand in the room and host.  If you can't do that, it's
going to be hard for you.  You will not be able to control the shadow of
the group nor the possibility of emergence.  Once the group is working you
will barely be able to reconvene them, let alone impact the emotional 
field
of the event.  So you and the core team need to let go of outcomes and get
really curious about what might emerge from this afternoon of work.

Instead of design teams I would counsel that you have several dozen
listeners somehow connected to the bigger project who can discern what is
going on.  After the event invite them and the conveners of every
conversation to engage in a little meaning making together.  That could
still be a meeting of more than 100 people, but you could do it in Open
Space and ask the question: "So what did we learn from our 1000 people 
open
space and what do we need to do to support momentum?"

And as for outcomes, there is very little this group collectively will be
able to accomplish in four hours other than people shaving the 
conversation
they came to have (not the ones the sponsors want them to have) with a few
people who managed to find them.  You might use a tool like
http://smsharvest.com as a way of catching insights on the fly from
everywhere.  But it will be really hard to get any collective clarity.

This is a tough one Sharon Joy.  I wish you a lot of luck and good clarity
and hope you will share the story with us of whatever happens.  There will
be lots of learning in it for all of us.

Chris


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

> Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence, 
clarity
> or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization 
we
> may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group
movement.?
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I
> have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in 
all
> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work 
in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the
> contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real
clue
> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, 
opaque...
> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite 
them
> to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible,
get
> out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
>
> ** **
>
> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she
didn?t
> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it
> could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as 
we
> all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.****
>
> ****
>
> Harrison****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Harrison Owen****
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>
> Potomac, MD 20854****
>
> USA****
>
> ** **
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>
> Camden, Maine 04843****
>
> ** **
>
> Phone 301-365-2093****
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261****
>
> ** **
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi Harrison,****
>
> ** **
>
> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and
> be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>
> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
> you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.****
>
> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all
> situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>
> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie 
Dannemiller
> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
> consciously the participants' process.****
>
> ** **
>
> Scott****
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> 
wrote:
> ****
>
> Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation
with
> large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it
> all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, 
and
> more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You 
just
> got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the
> opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with
> the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real
> business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and
> from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, 
create
> bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else 
needed.**
> **
>
>  ****
>
> Harrison****
>
>  ****
>
> Harrison Owen****
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>
> Potomac, MD 20854****
>
> USA****
>
>  ****
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>
> Camden, Maine 04843****
>
>  ****
>
> Phone 301-365-2093****
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261****
>
>  ****
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>
>  ****
>
> Hi Sharon Joy,****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> imagination.****
>
> Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of 
a
> laid back ****
>
> OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> logistics. I ****
>
> want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> through ****
>
> well planned OS tasks. ****
>
> I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> with. I try to ****
>
> get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> preceding ****
>
> any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> positioned ****
>
> influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and 
confirm
> sought ****
>
> desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of 
important
> topics****
>
> for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. 
I
> would also ****
>
> encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> serve as ****
>
> spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>
> However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or 
two
> to share their ****
>
> hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> topics as examples ****
>
> for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> performance ****
>
> system"sought.****
>
>  ****
>
> This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.****
>
> I also look forward to learning about your experience and next 
steps.****
>
>  ****
>
> Scott Gassman****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:****
>
> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 
4
> hours.
>
> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on 
the
> Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
it
> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>
> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
>
> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
>
> Maraming Salamat.
>
> ========================================
> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> SEAMEO INNOTECH
> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> Fax (632) 928-7692
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSList mailing list
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>
>
>
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> --
> Scott Gassman
> IdeaJuice
> (917) 951 - 0258
> scott.gassman at gmail.com
> www.ideajuices.com
>
> America Speaks on Scott:
> 
http://americaspeaks.org/facilitator-spotlight/spotlight-on-scott-gassman/
>
> ****
>
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> ** **
>
> --
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> IdeaJuice
> (917) 951 - 0258
> scott.gassman at gmail.com
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>
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 20:47:52 -0400
From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
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Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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Harrison,

I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO
confidence," "about what is going on."
That's  good  material for me to think about as I approach future group
work.
I am touched by your Kathie story.  Kathie's respect for you came out in a
conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really
steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember
you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle,
can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open 
Space
and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to
support the group and deliver a quick start.  I want the organizational
team to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps 
of
how to get going on their own.
I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of 
control,"
aiming to get them to keep pedaling  and stay up.

Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.

Scott

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

> Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence, 
clarity
> or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization 
we
> may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
> bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group
movement.?
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I
> have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in 
all
> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work 
in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the
> contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real
clue
> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, 
opaque...
> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite 
them
> to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible,
get
> out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
>
> ** **
>
> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she
didn?t
> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it
> could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as 
we
> all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.****
>
> ****
>
> Harrison****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Harrison Owen****
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>
> Potomac, MD 20854****
>
> USA****
>
> ** **
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>
> Camden, Maine 04843****
>
> ** **
>
> Phone 301-365-2093****
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261****
>
> ** **
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi Harrison,****
>
> ** **
>
> Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and
> be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>
> I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how
> you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.****
>
> Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all
> situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>
> Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie 
Dannemiller
> lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
> consciously the participants' process.****
>
> ** **
>
> Scott****
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> 
wrote:
> ****
>
> Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation
with
> large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it
> all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, 
and
> more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You 
just
> got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the
> opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with
> the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real
> business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and
> from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, 
create
> bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else 
needed.**
> **
>
>  ****
>
> Harrison****
>
>  ****
>
> Harrison Owen****
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.****
>
> Potomac, MD 20854****
>
> USA****
>
>  ****
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
>
> Camden, Maine 04843****
>
>  ****
>
> Phone 301-365-2093****
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261****
>
>  ****
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20> ****
>
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20> (Personal Website)****
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>
>  ****
>
> Hi Sharon Joy,****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> imagination.****
>
> Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of 
a
> laid back ****
>
> OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> logistics. I ****
>
> want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> through ****
>
> well planned OS tasks. ****
>
> I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> with. I try to ****
>
> get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> preceding ****
>
> any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> positioned ****
>
> influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and 
confirm
> sought ****
>
> desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of 
important
> topics****
>
> for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. 
I
> would also ****
>
> encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> serve as ****
>
> spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>
> However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or 
two
> to share their ****
>
> hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
> topics as examples ****
>
> for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> performance ****
>
> system"sought.****
>
>  ****
>
> This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.****
>
> I also look forward to learning about your experience and next 
steps.****
>
>  ****
>
> Scott Gassman****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:****
>
> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 
4
> hours.
>
> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on 
the
> Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
it
> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>
> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
>
> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
>
> Maraming Salamat.
>
> ========================================
> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> SEAMEO INNOTECH
> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> Fax (632) 928-7692
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 05:55:23 +0000
From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
<oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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A question here

I have been a bit confused about the selection process for open space.
In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening up the idea
to my client that we should have a self-selection of participants in
the open space by use of open invitation letters to the possible
participants. My client did not like that.

How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in the open
space and dose that mater in any way?

with a breeze from Iceland
K?ri

On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
> Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you here! You do have a
> hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my biggest concern is
> always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need some major room to
> maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two spaces are critical: 
in
> the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that many people I would
> look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is more than likely
that
> you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center, and that will
become
> quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the wall ? remember
that
> there will be a time when you have 1000 people all trying to read what 
is
up
> there (issues) and make their session selections. If the wall is too
short,
> the people will bunch up, and when people are standing 5-6 deep, it will
get
> frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of thumb is 6 inches of
> wall per participant. That way people will never be more than 2-3 deep.
You
> can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a price. In terms of 
time
> periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 -- 1 hour Sessions,
and
> a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all ?doable? but I do
have
> to ask: Why just 4 hours?
>
>
>
> I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will be speeches and
> presentations in the morning, which presumably will provide the people
with
> the necessary inspiration and information to do the job. However, every
time
> I have been in a situation like that, the information provided was never
> enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do the job. More to 
the
> point, there is an implicit statement made which I find most troubling. 
It
> would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters? somehow was equal
to
> and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and experience of 1000
> people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I seriously doubt 
that
> Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably better to just fire
> (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000 person collective
> wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ? the allocation of
time
> is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful. It might seem that
the
> ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play time after the 
experts
> and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you and your
colleagues
> thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a possible conclusion 
based
on
> the facts on the ground. And I have definitely experienced situations
where
> the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally conscious. Worst case
was a
> CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to say, ?Never turn 
the
> asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was the company, and
the
> ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that creativity and
> innovation at that company were virtually non-existent, and that 
employee
> morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of business.
>
>
>
> Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you Sharon Joy, I 
know
> that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That said, I find that
> sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we think or say. 
And
> even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis of our real
> intentions.
>
>
>
> Harrison
>
>
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
>
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 04843
>
>
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
>
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
>
> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
OSLIST
> Go to:
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>
>
>
> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
On Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM
> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
> Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>
>
>
> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
through
> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours.
>
> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on 
the
> Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
it
> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>
> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
>
> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
time?
>
> Maraming Salamat.
>
> ========================================
> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> SEAMEO INNOTECH
> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> Fax (632) 928-7692
>
>
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>



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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:00:29 +0200
From: Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannwitz at gmail.com>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
<oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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Dear Kari,
if an invitation is sent to all that the Planning Group (sponsor
included) want to be at the event under the approach/question "who
should be at the event so that the stuff we expect from the event under
the Heading we came up with for the event will happen?" those receiving
the invitation respond to the invitation the way one would usually
respond: accept or decline (selfselection).
Huge advantage of this selfselection is that the people picking up their
spirit and body to come are the right people.
People that come because they ought to, feel they have to, are forced to
etc. are also selfselecting themselves.
And all that show up hear my words about "The Law" and my invitation to
"obey" it (at least twice in the event)... listening to their feedback I
find that most folks find it liberating when they follow The Law, and
stay and participate (passionately).
Now, this is not really an answer to your question on the selection of
the 1000 people.
The event that HO refers to occasionally (the event with 2108
participants) took place at the end of a five day conference with 3500
folks in attendance. In the invitation to the conference people wanting
to attend the OST part had to sign up for it seperately (this determined
how many cushions we bought and how much food was supplied and how many
toilets had to be set up etc.) and pay an additonal fee.
In this way, following the invitation meant putting down some extra
money, filling out a form with their contact data for the documentation
all in addition to the decision that they wanted to be part of it. These
kinds of commitments are perhaps trivial but many sponsors are trying to
avoid to attach those commitments to the invitation to make it "easier"
for people to come... also a form of control.

Like the breeze from Iceland which actually arrived during the night and
brought a refreshingly cool morning
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 11.07.2013 07:55, K?ri Gunnarsson wrote:
> A question here
>
> I have been a bit confused about the selection process for open space.
> In my last possibly large gathering, there I was opening up the idea
> to my client that we should have a self-selection of participants in
> the open space by use of open invitation letters to the possible
> participants. My client did not like that.
>
> How have these 1000 people been selected to take part in the open
> space and dose that mater in any way?
>
> with a breeze from Iceland
> K?ri
>
> On 10 July 2013 19:56, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>> Sharon Joy -- What a joy (excuse the pun) to see you here! You do have 
a
>> hand full, but it will be fun. With large groups, my biggest concern is
>> always to have enough space. And 1000 people do need some major room to
>> maneuver, particularly when the time is short. Two spaces are critical:
in
>> the center of the circle, and at the wall. With that many people I 
would
>> look for a center open space of 100 feet across. It is more than likely
that
>> you will have 100-150 people all rushing to the center, and that will
become
>> quite confusing if they don?t have any room. And at the wall ? remember
that
>> there will be a time when you have 1000 people all trying to read what
is up
>> there (issues) and make their session selections. If the wall is too
short,
>> the people will bunch up, and when people are standing 5-6 deep, it 
will
get
>> frustrating and things will move slowly. My rule of thumb is 6 inches 
of
>> wall per participant. That way people will never be more than 2-3 deep.
You
>> can get away with less wall, but, but you do pay a price. In terms of
time
>> periods I would suggest 1 ? hours for the opening, 2 -- 1 hour 
Sessions,
and
>> a half hour for the close, maybe even less. It is all ?doable? but I do
have
>> to ask: Why just 4 hours?
>>
>>
>>
>> I suspicion the answer is something like ? there will be speeches and
>> presentations in the morning, which presumably will provide the people
with
>> the necessary inspiration and information to do the job. However, every
time
>> I have been in a situation like that, the information provided was 
never
>> enough, and the inspiration imparted simply didn?t do the job. More to
the
>> point, there is an implicit statement made which I find most troubling.
It
>> would seem that the wisdom of the several ?presenters? somehow was 
equal
to
>> and/or took precedence over the collective wisdom and experience of 
1000
>> people. Of course this could be true, but if it is, I seriously doubt
that
>> Opening Space will do all that much good. Probably better to just fire
>> (terminate) the lot. On the other hand, if that 1000 person collective
>> wisdom is of the sort and depth I suspect it to be ? the allocation of
time
>> is, if nothing else, short sighted and disrespectful. It might seem 
that
the
>> ?idiots and children? will be allowed a little play time after the
experts
>> and adults have set the stage. Am I suggesting that you and your
colleagues
>> thought this way? Definitely not. But that is a possible conclusion
based on
>> the facts on the ground. And I have definitely experienced situations
where
>> the ?thought? not only occurred, but was totally conscious. Worst case
was a
>> CEO of a large American corporation who was heard to say, ?Never turn 
the
>> asylum over to the inmates.? The Asylum, of course was the company, and
the
>> ?inmates? were all the employees. Is it any wonder that creativity and
>> innovation at that company were virtually non-existent, and that 
employee
>> morale was dismal? Thankfully the company is now out of business.
>>
>>
>>
>> Doubtless I have gone way too far here, and knowing you Sharon Joy, I
know
>> that such thoughts would never enter your mind. That said, I find that
>> sometimes what we do speaks so much louder than what we think or say. 
And
>> even worse when our actions are the direct antithesis of our real
>> intentions.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
>> Potomac, MD 20854
>>
>> USA
>>
>>
>>
>> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>>
>> Camden, Maine 04843
>>
>>
>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
>> (summer)  207-763-3261
>>
>>
>>
>> www.openspaceworld.com
>>
>> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>>
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
OSLIST
>> Go to:
http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>
>>
>>
>> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
On Behalf Of Sharon Joy Chao
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 8:39 PM
>> To: oslist at lists.openspacetech.org
>> Subject: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>>
>>
>>
>> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
through
>> an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 
hours.
>>
>> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on
the
>> Philippine government service, its performance management system and 
how
it
>> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>>
>> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
>> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on 
OSList.
>>
>> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
time?
>>
>> Maraming Salamat.
>>
>> ========================================
>> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>> SEAMEO INNOTECH
>> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>> Fax (632) 928-7692
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> OSList mailing list
>> To post send emails to OSList at lists.openspacetech.org
>> To unsubscribe send an email to OSList-leave at lists.openspacetech.org
>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below:
>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org
>>
>
>
>

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:04:55 +0000
From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
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Subject: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to
host a moving open space.

If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would
be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my
extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a
road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open
space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour
in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over
and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This
year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the
groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue
in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the
possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that
protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our
papers in the jeeps.

Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would
need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take
with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion
group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place
names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a
group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir
site.

The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site
guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries
along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other
maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and
informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the
jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the
sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I
would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the
site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual
dimension of the discussion.

In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep
traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open
space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would
need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.

There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is
that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building
when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups
to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going
on with the business that matters.

Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome.


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:53:30 +0200
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Hi Kari, what marvellous story.
While reading I was just wondering
what happens to the law of two feet and
how you manage to aloud butterflying.
Are those lovely creatures that are just
there doing nothing sitting on a special car?
ge

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2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>

> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to
> host a moving open space.
>
> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would
> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my
> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a
> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open
> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour
> in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over
> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This
> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the
> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue
> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the
> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that
> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our
> papers in the jeeps.
>
> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would
> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take
> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion
> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place
> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a
> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir
> site.
>
> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site
> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries
> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other
> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and
> informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the
> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the
> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I
> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the
> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual
> dimension of the discussion.
>
> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep
> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open
> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would
> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>
> There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is
> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building
> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups
> to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going
> on with the business that matters.
>
> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome.
> _______________________________________________
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From: K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
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Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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Hi Gerardo

I have often been butterflying with my mind out of the window enjoying
the marvels of the landscape while begin a passenger of a Jeep, taking
no notice of the conversations happening next to me.

In our Open Space Jeep ride with frequent stops for sites and
conversations and many Jeeps, the butterflies will see the sites and
find them sleeves in different jeeps all of the time.

I think Ill draft out a fun 3 day tour and an empowering 5 day tour
for this new moving by jeep open space format, with hot-spring outdoor
thermal pools, geysers, volcanic lava-fields, waterfalls, glaciers,
Nordic buffets, green energy sites and all the traditional fun stuff,
ready for a topic and an invited group.

with a breeze from Iceland
K?ri


On 11 July 2013 10:53, gerardo de luzenberger <xge at loci.it> wrote:
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> there doing nothing sitting on a special car?
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> 2013/7/11 K?ri Gunnarsson <kari.gunnarsson at simnet.is>
>>
>> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to
>> host a moving open space.
>>
>> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would
>> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my
>> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a
>> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open
>> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour
>> in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over
>> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This
>> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the
>> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue
>> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
>> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the
>> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that
>> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our
>> papers in the jeeps.
>>
>> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
>> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would
>> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take
>> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion
>> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place
>> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a
>> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir
>> site.
>>
>> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site
>> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries
>> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other
>> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and
>> informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the
>> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the
>> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I
>> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the
>> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual
>> dimension of the discussion.
>>
>> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep
>> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open
>> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would
>> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
>> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>>
>> There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is
>> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building
>> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups
>> to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going
>> on with the business that matters.
>>
>> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome.
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 08:35:31 -0400
From: "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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Scott - When teaching a kid to ride a bike, you only push as long as you
have to. When the kid takes off - Let Them Go! In my experience, when 
riding
the "Open Space Bike" a 15 min push will do the job, provided the 
conditions
are right (real issue, complexity, diversity, etc). Actually, with every
group I've ever worked with - large or small - it seems like they already
knew how to ride. They just needed a gentle reminder - and off they went. 
No
help needed.



Harrison



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Harrison,



I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO
confidence," "about what is going on."

That's  good  material for me to think about as I approach future group
work.

I am touched by your Kathie story.  Kathie's respect for you came out in a
conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really 
steered
me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember you 
leaving
to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle, can you let
go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open Space and joint
design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to support the
group and deliver a quick start.  I want the organizational team to 
discover
and I also want to have them have those first few steps of how to get 
going
on their own.

I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of 
control,"
aiming to get them to keep pedaling  and stay up.



Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.



Scott



On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

Scott said - "Not all of us have your (that's me - HO) confidence, clarity
or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we
may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group 
movement."



Nice words, Scott - but once again I have a different take. Truth is I 
have
ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my "competence in all
situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement." Quite to the
contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real 
clue
about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque...
BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them 
to
do what only they know how to do - and then, as quickly as possible, get 
out
of the way. Usually to take a napJ



And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she 
didn't
use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was - "I'd be terrified ... it
could get out of control." The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
all are) was always out of control - so there was nothing to lose.

Harrison







Harrison Owen

7808 River Falls Dr.

Potomac, MD 20854

USA



189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)

Camden, Maine 04843



Phone 301-365-2093

(summer)  207-763-3261



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Hi Harrison,



Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and 
be
hopefully clearer about her design decisions.

I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of how 
you
have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.

Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all 
situations
to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in and/or the
process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can 
slow
down the speed of large group movement.

Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
consciously the participants' process.



Scott



On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

Scott - I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any 
reason
to "plant" topics, or emplace "spark plugs." In every situation with large
groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) - the people do it all by
themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and more
furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just got 
to
get out of the way quickly - which is why I would make sure the opening 
was
fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only - and on with the show! Of
course the "necessary conditions" must be in place (real business issue,
complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) - and from there on out
the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create bulletin board,
open market place - and go to work. Nothing else needed.



Harrison



Harrison Owen

7808 River Falls Dr.

Potomac, MD 20854

USA



189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)

Camden, Maine 04843



Phone 301-365-2093

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Hi Sharon Joy,



Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
imagination.

Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of a
laid back

OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
logistics. I

want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
through

well planned OS tasks.

I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away 
with.
I try to

get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
preceding

any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
positioned

influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and confirm
sought

desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important
topics

for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I
would also

encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
serve as

spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.

However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or two
to share their

hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
topics as examples

for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
performance

system"sought.



This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.

I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.



Scott Gassman







On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao 
<sharon at seameo-innotech.org>
wrote:

Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go 
through
an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4 hours.

This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on the
Philippine government service, its performance management system and how 
it
can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.

Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.

Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours 
time?


Maraming Salamat.

========================================
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SEAMEO INNOTECH
Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
Fax (632) 928-7692


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 14:38:15 +0200
From: Lise Damkj?r <lise at learning4life.dk>
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Subject: Re: [OSList] open space in jeeps
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Hey K?ri

I really like your idea - I certainly would like to enjoy Iceland and do
an open space at the same time - lot of fun with the jeeps as well I 
think.

I hope your idea will grow and become thrue one day...

Lise, Copenhagen

Den 11-07-2013 10:04, K?ri Gunnarsson skrev:
> I been wondering for a few years if anyone here has ever attempted to
> host a moving open space.
>
> If you are booking Iceland for your open space, then perhaps it would
> be fun to see some sites and have discussion on the road. In my
> extended family we have a tradition that every 3 years we meet for a
> road trip. This road trip covers a short distance and is like an open
> space. for we drive for 5 to 15 minutes and then we stop for an hour
> in different locations where the power of the coffee brake takes over
> and people gather to talk about what needs to be talked about. This
> year we had 85 people in 20 jeeps driving around and mixing up the
> groups every time. If discussion was not done, then it would continue
> in the new place, the arrangement of people in jeeps was also
> changeable based on what we needed to talk about. Even with the
> possibly bad whether we can do this, as we all have nice clothing that
> protects us from rain, snow and wind. If it rains then we keep our
> papers in the jeeps.
>
> Open Space meeting in jeeps on the road has the problem of
> impermanence of space, as we are driving around. Any wall space would
> need to be virtual. We already have good place markers that we take
> with us, that is the jeeps them selves, as a different discussion
> group can form next to jeep A or B. The time slots would be the place
> names of the sites that we visit. Like "Jeep B at Geysir" would be a
> group convening next to jeep B whenever we are next at the Geysir
> site.
>
> The traditional site seeing in groups is usually hosted with a site
> guide that dumps to much information in to short of a time and hurries
> along so most of the people become to tiered to talk about other
> maters. This must be avoided, but we can still have some light and
> informative information of the sites by use of the comm system in the
> jeeps while approaching the sites. We can also tag along and enjoy the
> sites while conversing with our groups by giving a little more time, I
> would recommend to take a step out of the discussion to take in the
> site and revive the power of the pure nature to fuel the spiritual
> dimension of the discussion.
>
> In my experiences, the energies and dimensions of a group of jeep
> traveling have almost all the parts that can be used for a good open
> space practice. The only missing part would be the wall that would
> need to be implemented virtually with tablet or smart phone
> application usable with an in jeep wifi / G4 system.
>
> There are two major factors that drive me to these thoughts, one is
> that the nature is marvels and it is a shame to be stuck in a building
> when we can be traveling. And the other factor is that I like groups
> to come to my small country for experiencing these marvels while going
> on with the business that matters.
>
> Any experiences, thoughts, opportunities or comments are welcome.
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 06:33:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: chunili2000 at yahoo.com
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Interesting discussion...
Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to discover and I also
want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going on their
own.?" What do THEY want?
?
I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly conveyed?from the
outset?is who's responsible for the outcomes of the meeting? If you are,
and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure certain things
happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are simply providing 
an
environment that allows them to be their own leaders and be responsible 
for
their?own passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction, there
is something to be learned?about themselves.
?
I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the least amount of
time is wasted.
?
?
?
Chuni Li
?

?
From: Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com>
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list <
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Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours



Harrison,

I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO
confidence," "about what is going on."?
That's ?good ?material for me to think about as I approach future group
work.?
I am touched by your Kathie story. ?Kathie's respect for you came out in a
conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really
steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember
you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the middle,
can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open 
Space
and joint?design team?sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to
support the group and deliver a quick start. ?I want the organizational 
team
to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps of how
to get going on their own.?
I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of 
control,"
aiming to get them to keep pedaling ?and stay up.

Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.

Scott


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:

Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence, clarity
or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we
may live/work in and/or the process in a room potentially filled with
bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large group 
movement.??
>?
>Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I
have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in all
situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the
contrary, ?I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real 
clue
about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, opaque...
BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite them
to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible, 
get
out of the way. Usually to take a napJ
>?
>And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she 
didn?t
use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it
could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as we
all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.
>Harrison
>?
>?
>?
>Harrison Owen
>7808 River Falls Dr.
>Potomac, MD 20854
>USA
>?
>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>Camden, Maine 04843
>?
>Phone 301-365-2093
>(summer)? 207-763-3261
>?
>www.openspaceworld.com
>www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
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>?
>From:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [
mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>
>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>?
>Hi Harrison,
>?
>Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed and
be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.
>I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly,"?and the authenticity of how
you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.
>Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all
situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.?
>Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie Dannemiller
lessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the process
consciously the participants' process.
>?
>Scott
>?
>On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> 
wrote:
>Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation 
with
large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people do it
all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is faster, and
more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You just
got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure the
opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with 
the
show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real business
issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and from there
on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, create bulletin
board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else needed.
>?
>Harrison
>?
>Harrison Owen
>7808 River Falls Dr.
>Potomac, MD 20854
>USA
>?
>189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>Camden, Maine 04843
>?
>Phone 301-365-2093
>(summer)? 207-763-3261
>?
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>From:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [
mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org
<oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org>]
On Behalf Of Scott Gassman
>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
>To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
>Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>?
>Hi Sharon Joy,
>?
>Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
imagination.
>Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy of 
a
laid back?
>OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
logistics. I?
>want people to?see what they can get done when they are focused and led
through?
>well planned OS tasks.?
>I think about the?outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
with. I try to?
>get clear on their?goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
preceding?
>any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
positioned?
>influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and 
confirm
sought?
>desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of important
topics
>for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples. I
would also?
>encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
serve as?
>spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.
>However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or 
two
to share their?
>hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list of
topics as examples?
>for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
performance?
>system"sought.
>?
>This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.
>I also look forward to learning about your experience and next steps.
>?
>Scott Gassman
>?
>?
>?
>On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao 
<sharon at seameo-innotech.org>
wrote:
>Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 4
hours.
>
>This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on 
the
Philippine government service, its performance management system and how 
it
can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>
>Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
>
>Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
time?
>
>Maraming Salamat.
>
>========================================
>Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
>SEAMEO INNOTECH
>Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
>Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
>Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
>Fax (632) 928-7692
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 19:38:20 +0200
From: Lourdes Adriana Diaz-Berrio Doring <adriana at diazberrio.com>
To: chunili2000 at yahoo.com, World wide Open Space Technology email list
<oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
Subject: Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
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Hello: Responding to the question about an OS for a large group but  e few
hours I agree with Lisa and I want to say that yes it is very importqnt to
have a lot os space for the agenda. I had 320 participants last week and
this was a problem because they had problems getting to the wall to read.
For the closing circle they helped put the chairs back in circles and I
just took a few interventions but it was really interesting!

Adriana

2013/7/11 <chunili2000 at yahoo.com>

> Interesting discussion...
> Scott, you said: "I want the organizational team to discover and I also
> want to have them have those first few steps of how to get going on 
their
> own. " What do THEY want?
>
> I guess a fundamental message that needs to be clearly conveyed from the
> outset is who's responsible for the outcomes of the meeting? If you are,
> and so communicated, I can see your desire to make sure certain things
> happen...but if they are, and agree to it, then you are simply providing
an
> environment that allows them to be their own leaders and be responsible
for
> their own passions. If things don't turn out to their satisfaction, 
there
> is something to be learned about themselves.
>
> I would focus the planning on the logistics so that the least amount of
> time is wasted.
>
>
>
> Chuni Li
>
>
>
>   *From:* Scott Gassman <scott.gassman at gmail.com>
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list <
> oslist at lists.openspacetech.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 8:47 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours
>
> Harrison,
>
> I am going to print these paragraphs of yours and think about the "ZERO
> confidence," "about what is going on."
> That's  good  material for me to think about as I approach future group
> work.
> I am touched by your Kathie story.  Kathie's respect for you came out in 
a
> conversation and made me want to learn Open Space, and so she really
> steered me towards learning with you and Lisa up in Maine. I do remember
> you leaving to take a nap and me scratching my head - how - in the 
middle,
> can you let go? I guess until now I dance between the freedom of Open
Space
> and joint design team sharing that anchors me to do as much as I can to
> support the group and deliver a quick start.  I want the organizational
> team to discover and I also want to have them have those first few steps
of
> how to get going on their own.
> I think of it as pushing a kid on a 2 wheel bicycle, also "out of
> control," aiming to get them to keep pedaling  and stay up.
>
> Here's my honesty to you, Sharon Joy.
>
> Scott
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> 
wrote:
>
>  Scott said ? ?Not all of us have your (that?s me ? HO) confidence,
> clarity or competence in all situations to trust ourselves, in an
> organization we may live/work in and/or the process in a room 
potentially
> filled with bureaucrats, whose shadow can slow down the speed of large
> group movement.? ****
> ** **
> Nice words, Scott ? but once again I have a different take. Truth is I
> have ZERO confidence, to say nothing of clarity, in my ?competence in 
all
> situations to trust (my)ourselves, in an organization we may live/work 
in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement.? Quite to the
> contrary,  I know totally and completely that I will NEVER have a real
clue
> about what is going on. Too complex, inter-related, fast moving, 
opaque...
> BUT the people do. My only responsibility (possibility) is to invite 
them
> to do what only they know how to do ? and then, as quickly as possible,
get
> out of the way. Usually to take a napJ****
> ** **
> And Kathie Dannemiller was a special person and a friend. I respect her
> greatly. And... somebody once asked her why, given what she did, she
didn?t
> use Open Space. Her reply, as I heard it, was ? ?I?d be terrified ... it
> could get out of control.? The big secret, of course, was that she (as 
we
> all are) was always out of control ? so there was nothing to lose.****
>  ****
> Harrison****
> ** **
> ** **
> ** **
> Harrison Owen****
> 7808 River Falls Dr.****
> Potomac, MD 20854****
> USA****
> ** **
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
> Camden, Maine 04843****
> ** **
> Phone 301-365-2093****
> (summer)  207-763-3261****
> ** **
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/> ****
> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com%20/> (Personal Website)****
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
> ** **
>  *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>  ** **
> Hi Harrison,****
>  ** **
>  Glad you responded, Sharon gets to think deeper about how to proceed 
and
> be hopefully clearer about her design decisions.****
>  I clearly hear "get out of the way quickly," and the authenticity of 
how
> you have lived/practiced OpenSpace. I love it when I do it.****
>  Not all of us have your confidence, clarity or competence in all
> situations to trust ourselves, in an organization we may live/work in
> and/or the process in a room potentially filled with bureaucrats, whose
> shadow can slow down the speed of large group movement. ****
>  Whether my approach is a cop out to the OS process, my Kathie
Dannemillerlessons about Design Teams has helped me to usually make the
process
> consciously the participants' process.****
>  ** **
>  Scott****
>  ** **
>  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> wrote:****
>  Scott ? I guess I really have a different take. I have never seen any
> reason to ?plant? topics, or emplace ?spark plugs.? In every situation
> with large groups in my experience (my largest was 2108 J) ? the people
> do it all by themselves, just like usual. If anything the action is
faster,
> and more furious with a large group. Once it rolls, it really rolls. You
> just got to get out of the way quickly ? which is why I would make sure
the
> opening was fast and sweet. Once person (facilitator) only ? and on with
> the show! Of course the ?necessary conditions? must be in place (real
> business issue, complexity, diversity, passion, conflict, urgency) ? and
> from there on out the only thing you need to do is sit in a circle, 
create
> bulletin board, open market place ? and go to work. Nothing else 
needed.**
> **
>  ****
> Harrison****
>  ****
> Harrison Owen****
> 7808 River Falls Dr.****
> Potomac, MD 20854****
> USA****
>  ****
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)****
> Camden, Maine 04843****
>  ****
> Phone 301-365-2093****
> (summer)  207-763-3261****
>  ****
> http://www.openspaceworld.com%20/ ****
> http://www.ho-image.com%20/ (Personal Website)****
> To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
> OSLIST Go to:
> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org****
>  ****
>  *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Scott Gassman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 10:13 AM
> *To:* World wide Open Space Technology email list
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] 1,000 participants in 4 hours****
>   ****
> Hi Sharon Joy,****
>   ****
>  Thanks for sharing your opportunity and provoking our experience and
> imagination.****
>  Lisa has given you great tips, great food for thought. For me the joy 
of
> a laid back ****
>  OS alters when I must manage tighter time frames, larger numbers and
> logistics. I ****
>  want people to see what they can get done when they are focused and led
> through ****
>  well planned OS tasks. ****
>  I think about the outcome/purpose the client/group wants to walk away
> with. I try to ****
>  get clear on their goal(s)/desired outcomes. I am fond of design teams
> preceding ****
>  any large group initiative. I would bring together 5 to 10 vertically
> positioned ****
>  influencers as soon as possible and preceding the get together and
> confirm sought ****
>  desired outcomes, I would then ask them to brainstorm a list of
> important topics****
>  for this conversation and to rework the list into a vital few examples.
> I would also ****
>  encourage this group to recognize the significance of their role and to
> serve as ****
>  spark plugs to get the large group moving forward.****
>  However the session is opened, I would include a design team member or
> two to share their ****
>  hopes and aspirations for this meeting, and to briefly share the list 
of
> topics as examples ****
>  for the 1,000 others to raise what matters most to them per the "high
> performance ****
>  system"sought.****
>   ****
>  This is a great opportunity for your government to work together.****
>  I also look forward to learning about your experience and next 
steps.****
>   ****
>  Scott Gassman****
>   ****
>   ****
>   ****
>  On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Sharon Joy Chao <
> sharon at seameo-innotech.org> wrote:****
> Need to figure a way of convening a thousand government people to go
> through an exploratory discussion on high performance system, all under 
4
> hours.
>
> This happens next week down south in the city of Cebu. The focus is on 
the
> Philippine government service, its performance management system and how
it
> can be truly essential, responsive and life-giving.
>
> Gail West, my OS mentor friend, has provided me with some incredible
> suggestions on how to proceed and she also advised me to post on OSList.
>
> Any thoughts on how best to proceed with a cast of thousand in 4 hours
> time?
>
> Maraming Salamat.
>
> ========================================
> Sharon Joy Berlin Chao
> SEAMEO INNOTECH
> Commonwealth Avenue, U.P. Diliman, Quezon City
> Metro Manila 1101 Philippines
> Phone (632) 924-7681, 9267900
> Fax (632) 928-7692
>
>
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> ****
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