[OSList] Fees for OS conferences?

[Harrison Owen]

Michael -- Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have read the
piece and would recommend that others do as well. Particularly if you are a
"consultant" (old hand or just starting). I never did anything quite the way
described, but close -- and having read this piece, and should I ever "go
back into the trade" -- believe me this would be the way to go.

Read it! --

http://www.sanneroemen.nl/wp-content/uploads/071107_nrc_en.pdf 

Harrison

Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Dr.
Potomac, MD 20854
USA

189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
Camden, Maine 20854

Phone 301-365-2093
(summer)  207-763-3261

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[mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Michael M
Pannwitz
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 4:05 PM
To: World wide Open Space Technology email list
Subject: Re: [OSList] Fees for OS conferences?

A colleague from the Netherlands just included herself in the Open Space
World Map... as I took a look at her website , this is what I found

> Working outside the hourly invoicing box The pros and cons of allowing 
> your clients to determine your fee afterwards

Here is the full text
> http://www.sanneroemen.nl/wp-content/uploads/071107_nrc_en.pdf

Its not how I have done it but there are some similarities, I suggest to my
client that they set my fee.

This is a wide field, it seems
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

On 10.05.2012 20:52, Harrison Owen wrote:
> Chuni, I might add – that in talking with the client I find that the 
> following questions can be helpful.
>
> 1) How much is it worth to you to achieve the goal you have indicated 
> (whatever that might have been)?
>
> 2) How much would it cost to achieve that goal using any other 
> approach you can think of (just to create perspective)?
>
> Of course if they don’t think it is worth anything there might be some 
> question as to Why bother? Or if they can think of a more economical 
> way to achieve their intentions – Go for it!
>
> ho
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 20854
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer)  207-763-3261
>
> www.openspaceworld.com
>
> www.ho-image.com (Personal Website)
>
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> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Harrison Owen
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:15 PM
> *To:* chunili2000 at yahoo.com; 'World wide Open Space Technology email list'
> *Subject:* Re: [OSList] Fees for OS conferences?
>
> Chuni – I think it depends totally on the client and the situation. 
> When I do something like an OSONOS I simply attempt to cover costs. 
> Most recently with the OSONOS by the Sea (well not that recently as 
> that was
> 3 years ago) the fee was $25. That paid for space and coffee/donuts. A 
> local church provided the space, and all meals and accommodations were 
> handled by the individual participants. Actually we ran a considerable 
> surplus. So with the surplus, I doubled the Church’s fee, as it was 
> ridiculously low, and then sent $500 to the Access Queen. However if 
> we were talking about a major corporation holding a serious working 
> conference (2 ½ days) on a critical issue the money can and (I think) 
> should be equally serious. Of course it is all coming out of a common 
> corporate pot, but in a recent case I think it probably came out to
> $1500-2000 per participant. For whatever it is worth, I’ve never had 
> an argument with anybody in terms of the value received. For the 
> corporation the tab was probably close to $450,000, but considering 
> what they achieved, and compared to how much it could have cost had 
> they done it any other way (traditional committees over a year or two) 
> – that price was bargain basement LOW.
>
> Any help?
>
> ho
>
> Harrison Owen
>
> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>
> Potomac, MD 20854
>
> USA
>
> 189 Beaucaire Ave. (summer)
>
> Camden, Maine 20854
>
> Phone 301-365-2093
>
> (summer) 207-763-3261
>
> www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com>
>
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> *chunili2000 at yahoo.com <mailto:chunili2000 at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:31 PM
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> *Subject:* [OSList] Fees for OS conferences?
>
> Hello All,
>
> I'd like to find out if anyone has charged the attendees for coming to 
> the OS convening.
>
> If so, how do you do it? On what basis do you determine the fees?
>
> Thank you.
>
> ChuniLi
>
> New Jersey
>
> 732-306-4002
>
>
>
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