[OSList] Articles on dialogue in different cultures

Wed Jan 18 10:12:59 PST 2012

Dear Bui,
its on page 19 of "On Dialogue", Routledge Classic, 1996, ISBN10: 
0415336414, available on amazon for between 12 and 16 Euro... introduced 
by Senge and Nichol.
cheers
mmp

On 18.01.2012 18:36, Bui Petersen wrote:
> Thanks Birgitt,
>
> I'm mostly interesting in what is universal (i.e. option 2.) As someone
> who has moved around a fair amount myself, I can certainly identify with
> your experience.
>
> I am particularly inspired by the following quote attributed to David
> Bohm (supposedly from "On Dialogue" but it is not it my copy of the book):
>> /From time to time, (the) tribe (gathered) in a circle. They just
>> talked and talked and talked, apparently to no purpose. They made no
>> decisions. There was no leader. And everybody could participate. There
>> may have been wise men or wise women that were listened to a bit more
>> – the older ones – but everybody could talk. The meeting went on,
>> until it finally seemed to stop for no reason at all and the group
>> dispersed. Yet after that, everybody seemed to know what to do,
>> because they understood each other so well. They could get together in
>> smaller groups and do something or decide things./
>
> Bui
>
>
> On 18/01/2012 12:33 PM, Birgitt Williams wrote:
>> One consideration...it is important to distinguish whether you wish to focus
>> on
>> 1.what is different among different cultures
>> OR
>> 2.what is universal and the same among the entire human race
>>
>> I personally spent years attempting to understand what was different and
>> spent three years of training as a cultural interpreter. I finally figured
>> out that unless I was deeply 'in' a culture, I could not really understand.
>> I find this even in my own life. I was born in Germany, yet because I moved
>> to Canada when I was two, I don't totally understand the German culture or
>> forms of dialogue. Because I was an immigrant into Canada, I also never came
>> to fully understand the Canadian culture of ways of dialogue. And then I
>> moved to the southeastern USA some years ago and still am finding my way
>> after 12 years to understand this culture and the nuances of dialogue. I
>> have spent some considerable time in India and in Africa...and the same
>> findings.
>>
>> So, after all of my investigations to the cultural differences, when I was
>> putting together our workshop modules, I focused on what is universal, what
>> is the same. We are all members of the human race and what is the same is in
>> us all.
>>
>> Blessings,
>> Birgitt Williams
>> www.dalarinternational.com
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Bui Petersen
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:31 AM
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>>
>> I intend to have them do that but it is part of an academic course. So
>> it is required to be at least a little bit academic. Thanks for the
>> suggestion though. :)
>>
>> Bui
>>
>> On 17/01/2012 10:40 PM, doug wrote:
>>> Bui--
>>>
>>> Permit me to borrow the hat from the man and ask: Why have them read
>>> about it and listen to someone talking about it? Instead you could have
>>> them do dialogue and then report out what it was like and what they
>>> learned....
>>>
>>> Or not....
>>>
>>> <Handing hat back to the man>
>>>
>>> 			:- Doug.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2012-01-17 at 16:23 -0330, Bui Petersen wrote:
>>>> Hi fellow OSers,
>>>>
>>>> I have been ask to present a talk about on dialogue as part of
>>>> university course on Cross-cultural communication. I am thinking that it
>>>> may be interesting to talk about dialogue and how some of the approaches
>>>> we use are influenced by traditions from different cultures (e.g.
>>>> circles, OS marketplace, etc.). The intent to assign reading for the
>>>> students prior to the class, but it is proving to be a bit more
>>>> difficult than expected to find articles on this topic. There are lots
>>>> of sources on how people from the "west" have gone to other countries to
>>>> do dialogue, but I have found very little describing traditional
>>>> dialogue, neither theory or practice. (one likely problem is that what I
>>>> am referring to as "dialogue" may well be called something else in the
>>>> literature).
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? Theoretical sources are OK too.
>>>>
>>>> Always grateful for the generous help from this list. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Bui Petersen
>>>>
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