[OSList] SA1 Re: Openspace and Toastmasters - A Taster

Annamarie Pluhar annamarie at pluharconsulting.com
Mon Jan 2 09:38:36 PST 2012


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On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:

> I am sure it is irrelevant, and probably irreverent… but when I saw “TM” in the conversation, I never thought about Toastmasters. Probably says a lot about me, but that group of elegant speechifies had never been part of my experience. What came up was Transcendental Meditation, a guru brand that held some currency a few years back, and may still as far as I know. You can imagine my confusion.
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> From: oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Tim Lam
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:04 AM
> To: Jane Lewis; World wide Open Space Technology emaillist
> Subject: Re: [OSList] SA1 Re: Openspace and Toastmasters - A Taster
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> Thanks all for your valuable comments.
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> It is undeniable that futher discussions need to be held with the TM group to create a theme that sparks the passion of both groups involved.
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> I was also concerned very much about what Koos mentioned "Outlining the differences at the start of the meeting would only confuse people", and did myself once experiment with 'report-backs'.  I too found it made the end drag, despite attendees wanting to know what happened in the other sessions.
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> Anyways, I'll advise as the story unfolds.
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> Thanks,
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> Tim.
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> From: Jane Lewis <janeelewis at gmail.com>
> To: Tim Lam <timkylam at yahoo.com>; World wide Open Space Technology emaillist <oslist at lists.openspacetech.org> 
> Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 7:42 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSList] SA1 Re: Openspace and Toastmasters - A Taster
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> Tim, Juicy question for me:
> 
> > my original question:  how a balance can be made between the 'chaos' of OS and the 'rigidity' of TM?
> >  
> > Maybe there is none...
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> I say that because it makes me laugh, or amuses me. My mind doesn't comprehend, so I want to articulate what I heard (that you didn't say) that tickled me. I can't catch what balance might mean here. 
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> My simple view of the world: Someone(s) set a structure, tell a story about "come here and X will happen" and people either come or they don't. Then you get to watch/join in what really happens. And you get to stay as long as you want. Same for OS, same for TM.
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> I'm familiar with TM, from many different perspectives and involvement.
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> For me there's no either/or here. Let people get an invitation that indicates what's on offer and they'll decide by whatever conscious or unconscious criteria they happen to. 
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> So, I'm wondering what may feel out of balance for you in the situation. I'm thinking you can just do it, and watch *that* it works.
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> I read a suggestion that you might hold a conversation with a few people to decide the theme. When you find a group that lights up over something (a theme) and wants to discuss it, and is keen to invite others and get a place/time/tea supplies... your gig's on, yes? Then you can invite enthusiastically and be prepared to be surprised by it all.
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> I'm happy to hear what I missed as my mind processed your words through its myriad filters. Also, I'm curious to read how the story unfolds. 
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> Warm regards, Jane
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