[OSList] the oracle's musings

doug ost at footprintsinthewind.com
Fri Feb 24 08:33:15 PST 2012


Harrison--

That too is juicy: finding trust in their fellows and themselves....
Upon that I will contemplate....

			:- Doug.




On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 11:11 -0500, Harrison Owen wrote:
> Doug -- I think it is fair to say that if the only people invited to an Open
> Space were those who trusted each other, then none of the gatherings I have
> facilitated or attended would have taken place. As a matter of fact one of
> the prime reasons for opening space is to enable folks who have no trust to
> find some -- both in themselves and their fellows.
> 
> Harrison
> 
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> Harrison--
> 
> I'm not driving at anything, actually. Just exploring. It seemed a juicy
> tidbit that mistrust, distrust, might actually lead to better engagement,
> better diversity, better creativity, better...?
> 
> So you have seen this in the territory. Does it help the people do their
> work?
> 
> Stated the other way around: Should we seek to bring into the space only
> people who trust each other?
> 
> 			:- Doug.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 08:10 -0500, Harrison Owen wrote:
> > Doug -- "Mistrust"??? I am not quite sure what you are driving at... 
> > People are people in the great open space or in the smaller ones we 
> > convene. They are all sorts of things, including trusting and 
> > mistrusting. Comes with the territory so to speak. So ?
> > 
> > Harrison
> > 
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > [mailto:oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of doug
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:34 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [OSList] the oracle's musings
> > 
> > Harrison and Kerry--
> > 
> > (Wonderful to see you back on the list the last few months, Kerry!)
> > 
> > Peggy Holman in her Engaging Emergence has hinted (maybe she said it
> > outright) that a little bit of distrust can actually help the Open 
> > Space, equating it to just so much more diversity, if I recall.
> > 
> > Comments on distrust among the participants as a good thing?
> > 
> > 			:- Doug.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 02/23/2012 05:27 PM, Kerry Napuk wrote:
> > > Hi Harrison
> > >
> > > Enjoyed your analogy of teaching someone to fish in lieu of handing 
> > > them a fish.  It certainly is applicable to the failures of 
> > > traditional foreign aid.
> > >
> > > Yeah, Open Space is easy.  I facilitated my first group with 175 
> > > people in an old tram works in Glasgow for the entire theatre sector 
> > > of Scotland.  My training was reading your Handbook and a weekend 
> > > course in OD.  But, like most simple things, you can spend your life 
> > > working on it.  So, simple it is, but practising and perfecting it 
> > > is an
> > art.
> > >
> > > I now have done over 100 events with a bit more than 7,000 
> > > participants and I still am amazed at large group energy and dynamics.
> > > It sure beats facilitating top teams in organisations who, agree a 
> > > vision and strategy, then watch it fail when they try to cascade it
> > downwards.
> > > Nobody buys in, because they were not a part of its creation.
> > >
> > > It is far easier to get the whole system in one room and let people 
> > > commit at the point of participation.  After all, what more can you 
> > > ask than an organisation creating the space where people totally 
> > > equal contribute and participate on a level field.  Nobody is in 
> > > control and nobody can influence outcomes.  So, there can be no 
> > > stacked deck or hidden agendas.
> > >
> > > That is yet another thing so brilliant about Open Space, you can 
> > > seed the field with grass and players far faster than any other 
> > > large group process.  Flexibility is the hallmark of Open Space, 
> > > along with its complete bottom up self organisation driven by 
> > > motivation and action through _*passion* _(care enough about 
> > > something to stand up in front of everyone with your burning issue) 
> > > *_and responsibility_* (care enough to lead a group and do something 
> > > about your passion.)
> > >
> > > Simple it is, but you can spend a life time working on it.  In this 
> > > respect, Open Space has a Zen like quality.  Practise, practise, 
> > > polish, polish.
> > >
> > > So, thank you Harrison for your laziness and penchant for martinis.  
> > > You have done well.  And we all can attest to your generosity as 
> > > David Osborne discovered.  You gave your creation to the world 
> > > without strings and without royalties.  Bravo!
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Kerry
> > > Edinburgh
> > >
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