[OSList] Designing an OS way

fischer florian florianfischer at ff-wey.com
Mon Sep 19 11:59:04 PDT 2011


It seems.
it seems order while steadily renewing order
it seems equilibrium while oscillating between different levels
it seems symetric while it becomes asymetric in the same moment
it seems dance while dancing
it seems standing in quietness while full of inner vibration
it is called sleep while steadily breathing
it seems driving straight while steadily correcting the direction
it seems to be a system while it is connected and influenced endless
it seems to be chaotic while it is cosmic
it seems to emerge within a sudden while it developed itself since  
long time

In the words of beloved late Ralph Copleman »Everything is moving«
That is: Everything is open, every process is open, every system is  
open.

My two cents.
Florian


Am 19.09.2011 um 19:45 schrieb John Watkins:

> Great questions, Michael!
>
> I think when I am feeling optimistic (most of the time) I see OST as  
> creating one of those "far from equilibrium states" that Prigogine  
> and Stengers talk about as enabling new orders to emerge; however,  
> in less sanguine times, I could also imagine OST as just a  
> "subsystem fluctuation" enabling larger system stability.  But I  
> think that most of our larger systems these days are exhibiting  
> something like either disequilibrium or bifurcation points, so maybe  
> OST is able to restructure the system architecture so fundamentally  
> that a new order could emerge.  Weick talks about that restructuring  
> of the system architecture in order to change the "flows" of energy  
> in the system.  I think Bateson referred to one kind of larger  
> system disequilibrium as an "uptight system," where at least one of  
> the "variables" is "pinned" at its upper or lower limits of its  
> range of flexibility, resulting in that rigidity rippling through  
> the whole system.   Rigid systems change more easily, but not  
> usually in a very pretty way:  chaotic bursts, turbulence, tumbling  
> into chaos, new orders emerging spontaneously...
>
> John
>
> On Sep 19, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
>

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