[OSList] Happy wosonos - From Chile to London

Sun Oct 30 03:29:22 PDT 2011

Love the inquiry you bring to this question Harold.  The pluses of it and
the potential disruption of it should it interfere with the intimacy of the
connections and the "in the moment" conversations.

Something that was really fun in Chile that I did was using Skype to
introduce a few family members and colleagues to some folks.   With my
sister who knows how passionate I am about Open Space (our family hosted an
open space for family and friends a few years ago on the theme:  "If I
could change my world a little bit..."), I took her on a walking tour of
our Open Space room.  I pointed my computer camera to the marketplace wall,
I showed her the newsroom, the circle, the flowers, the silent
auction/Access Queen table of goodies,  the beautifully arranged room and
through the window the gorgeous mountains in the background. I even
introduced her to a few people who were passing by and they had a short
chat.  Did the same with Elaine Hansen one evening introducing her to
people who came by as I was sitting outside.   It was part of the sharing
in the moment, bringing her into the brimming energy and excitement of this
event.

Got me thinking that maybe at WOSonOS London, we could carve out a
meet/greet of physical virtual inviting walkarounds of the room and people
introducing each other in small conversations (nothing formal, similar to
what I did with people just saying hi, seeing the room and getting a
virtual feel of the energy and hospitality).  Just a thought!

Suzanne

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Harold Shinsato <harold at shinsato.com>wrote:

>  Artur,
>
> Thanks for keeping this conversation alive, and extending the options for
> next year's WOSonOS to have a good and beneficial online presence.
>
> I hope to join the London conversation in person as well and have some
> passion for this question and would love to help if possible.
>
> There was an event a couple weeks ago where some folks wanted to come but
> couldn't be there in person - so they had a camera and a TinyChat window
> open on a laptop to help remote people participate. I'd managed to convince
> the group to meet in a circle - though it wasn't a full on OST event. (This
> was an Occupy Missoula General Assembly by the way!) It was interesting to
> watch the facilitator pushing to break the energy of the circle and get
> everyone to talk to the laptop at the front of the room and a horrible
> lectern instead of to the circle. But then the power of the circle won so
> instead the facilitator took the laptop with the camera into the circle and
> aimed it at the person speaking. The facilitator also spoke out
> questions/comments that got typed to the group.
>
> In my judgement, the online participation was very disruptive to the
> energy of the circle when the facilitator tried to force everyone to comply
> with the needs of that darn laptop. But when the facilitator, who clearly
> had passion about including the online people, moved the laptop to the
> center and occasionally brought in the thoughts of the online attendees -
> it felt like it added to the circle.
>
> This is a tricky one! There are challenges and benefits. Opening events to
> an online or recorded presence can either harm or bless, and usually it
> does both!
>
> At the WOSonOS in Berlin in 2009 I recorded video and audio of some of the
> events - and that seemed to energize some of the conversations and make it
> more animated as well as make it possible to share the power of the
> conversations. But one session I tried to record with audio caused
> discomfort to the convener of the session and I can understand how even
> just turning on an audio recorder (let alone a video camcorder) can change
> the feeling of freedom and safety of the participants. This is definitely a
> dance which can be gracious and also clumsy.
>
> Whoever Comes and Wherever it Happens both seem to be increasingly
> extending out into the internet and online - either with cameras and
> microphones or with twitter and blogs. However this happens - it would be
> great to have the pre-work help it be more of a blessing than a curse when
> WOSonOS comes to London.
>
>     Blessings!
>     Harold
>
>
> On 10/23/11 11:11 AM, Artur Silva wrote:
>
>  Hi Phelim,****
>
>
> ****
> The problem with "Whoever comes are the right people" is: what does it
> mean "who comes" in these days?****
> ** **
> I have heard of companies that have made OST meetings with simultaneous
> gatherings in two or more different locations, connected by ITC. In my
> opinion all the people in any of those gatherings "came together"****
> ** **
> I have attended many conferences and meetings with people in many
> different locations. These people "come together," still being away from
> each other, in a "coming together" that was mediated by ICT and not by
> plane (with a lower ecological footprint, btw).****
> ** **
> We all know of "communities" whose members are far away and even never
> seen each other (the two of us, as members of the "OST Community", are a
> good example).****
> ** **
> And when someone in one place connects with many people in many different
> places, using Skype or any other tool - including the telephone - are they
> "coming together" or not?****
> ** **
> During the OSonOS of 2003 in "SvenMark" the reports of the breakout
> sessions were immediately putted in a Wiki and displayed in the web, were
> they could be commented by people not in the meeting and eventually
> re-commented by the people in the gathering. Being ill in bed with a lot of
> free time I was one of those long distance participants. IMHO those outside
> that followed and commented the event were also "coming", in a form of Jean
> Lave's "legitimate peripheral participation". ****
> ** **
> If OST changed the way we do meetings, ICT is changing the way we "come
> together" and create communities. I am sure that we can have the best of
> those two worlds if we are able to think about that in an innovative way.*
> ***
> ** **
> I agree with Susanne's suggestion of creating an international support
> group to help the London Hosting team with that.****
> ** **
> Anyhow, I am planning to go to London, so this is not a personnel
> interest; it is something I think we must consider and the sooner the
> better.****
> ** **
> Care****
> ** **
> Artur
>
>  PS: You also wrote about "being able to view something through a camera
> like a security guard". What I think you are missing is that people that
> are seeing "through the camera" *are not* security guards. They are OST
> facilitators, members of the community, that in many cases have already
> attended OST events and maybe even previous WOSonOS. If that was not true
> they would never know about the transmission, neither be interested in
> following it. ****
>
>
>
> --
> Harold Shinsato
> harold at shinsato.com
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