[OSList] Steve Jobs & Open Space

Suzanne Daigle sdaigle4 at gmail.com
Sat Dec 3 13:22:20 PST 2011


Skye, I could not even begin to respond in language what you have just
described. I do not have the conversational realm and expertise to do so. I
can only respond, with a deep stirring inside of me, that I feel this to be
true. Thank you Larry and Skye.
Suzanne
On Dec 3, 2011 4:12 PM, "Skye Hirst" <skyeh at autognomics.org> wrote:

> Larry, Thanks so much for that overview of the Jobs biography.  I'd like
> to explore your question of how does what he did in  his self-centered
> ways, lead to such productivity and quality of result?  Where is the Open
> Space and self-organization?    Each being/entity is self-directed and a
> closed system. (with the exception of energy consumption) Jobs could only
> be himself.  His "subjective aim"  was in focus for him within himself and
> he and he alone could know if what was being created was coherent with that
> vision.  There is an intensity that comes with "being on purpose"  and it
> is contagious I believe.  it also acts as inspiration for others to act in
> ways that call out "being on purpose/true to  yourself"  insisting on what
> is truth for your being nature.  But there is an even deeper nature that
> provides coherence for this process and that's just being discovered -
> there are laws of living/creative coherence - I believe that's what
> Harrison and so many here speak and point to that they experience through
> Open Space processes.
>
> When people are called together under these conditions,  something
> wonderful can happen as "the many become one and are increased by one" in
> the words of Whitehead.  This is the creative process of life becoming = it
> connects us to our aliveness, we find meaning and fulfillment when we act
> in concert with our purpose and even more meaning when that purpose can be
> joined with others doing the same. The personal purpose within a greater
> purpose that has meaning, worthiness and even urgency which one could see
> in the Apple environment, provides deep satisfaction for each participant
> in the vision.  If you look up the word compete, it means to "seek
> together."  There is a value sense of  satisfaction as we fulfill our own
> uniqueness of being and sense the connection to a greater whole.  Any
> environment that creates such conditions for life - is as Harrison says,
> "how life works if we let it."
>
> Help! Sorry for the language - we are exploring a realm that needs new
> language and so we work here at Autognomics to find new ways of talking
> about these emerging discoveries of life, living processes and how life
> creates, knows itself - Open Space and Open Spacers are pointing out
> beautifully  that "process IS reality"  - a value sensing process and as we
> share our own inner experiencing of this process we discover hopefully the
> bigger picture and ways of Life-itself, it's self-organizing and
> connectedness.  Thanks for reading this far, Skye
>
>
> On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Larry Peterson wrote:
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> I just finished reading Walter Isaacson's book "Steve Jobs". The last
> chapter has an interesting summary of some of the issues that his
> successful life raises particularly with regard to open versus closed IT
> product systems.
>
> Jobs chose to drive towards integrated, high quality, creative design and
> mostly closed products and systems. The openness is primarily for app
> developers who can count on a consistent operating system across products.
> This makes it easier to develop high quality applications that you know
> will work on phones iPad or iPod my son says.
>
> Jobs did not believe in market research because his ideas were beyond
> anyone's expectations and he believed that this vision would create the
> products that people would want. He pushed his engineers and the details of
> his vision mercilessly. Even Isaacson saw that the technical term assh*le
> applied to him quite often. He was a self centered Zen Buddhist who did not
> appropriate the more subtle qualities of a caring person. He was open to
> learning as long as it came to be his idea.****
>
> His vision “opened space” for those who would work at their top level to
> realize it.  When they didn’t he was mean and spiteful. And many didn’t
> understand his view of good design together with good technology.  He was
> used to getting what he wanted, even as a child, and this provided the
> hubris to move forward.  The space of silicon valley with its nutrient rich
> environment of engineers and garages and good schools made it possible for
> Apple to get going.  His personal Zen Buddist journey provided the self
> development, but did not make him self aware, just confident in his own
> vision.
>
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>
> People around the world got engaged in his visionary leadership and became
> followers of Apple as a counter culture product, even when it stumbled. It
> certainly has worked in the market place to integrate superior products
> that then set the model for the others to come.  Will Google and Microsoft
> be able to catch up?   ****
>
> As a PC person, I now find the products are quite amazing and the
> integration makes it easy for me to connect my iPad with my iPhone and
> project pictures on Apple TV with out enormous effort and technical
> know-how. The products and the integration are fun even if they are more
> costly. I think the book is a great read .****
>
> So where is the Open Space and the self-organization, other than at the
> beginning – maybe that was enough for real, committed if crazy leadership
> to emerge?  ****
>
> Larry****
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