[OSList] 답장: FW: Once again: Blending OST with Training - an absolute NO NO?

Sat Apr 30 10:16:47 PDT 2011

Sometimes things happen behind the curtain in the OS list.  Sometimes I
write private emails to people not wanting to expose myself to everyone, to
say thank you for giving me courage, to test the waters because I feel
insecure and uncertain, and sometimes just because.  And then sometimes
people write to me for the same reasons, thanking me because I connected
with their thoughts and they felt my support.  Without ever saying so, I
often want to say "Oh how I wish you had posted this to everyone" but then I
know that "feeling" where you don't feel safe and don't want to look stupid.
Years ago, I mostly played it safe; since I met Open Space, less so and it
is so freeing!

So folks, Bernd's note and the initial responses to him triggered something
in me and I wrote to Harrison privately after he responded to my OS public
post challenging me to go for the "whole enchilada".  He responded to my
private note by saying he wished I had posted it to all.  So not because
it's Harrison, it could have been anyone nudging me along, I am posting what
I emailed him and again baring my soul to all of you, feeling quite safe
really because most days it's how I now feel in this community and in my
heart and I hope many feel or will take the risk and get to feel like that
too.

Yes we love Open Space, no we are not a cult, we just care a lot about
OPENing  Space everywhere, knowing the world would be in a better place if
people stopped a bit to open space in whatever way...small spaces or big
enchilada spaces!  And perhaps by me posting today, others including
Harrison, will continue this important conversation inviting many to share
in an open and inclusive way how we feel and what we think on this
"blending" topic with all our wonderful diverse human points of view.
Inclusive does not mean agreeing or achieving consensus. Inclusive is
leaving wonderful space for so many different opinions... It's what the two
words "Diverse" and "Community" really mean...apart and together.

With much love and a twinkle in my eye for all my OS pals around the world.

**************
*My private posting from yesterday (exposed!)
*

Harrison, Let me tell you the real truth of why I wrote this  and then you
can slap me on the side of the head and know I still have lots to learn (
controlling ways -- I hope not?!) You know I want the whole enchilada and
"sturdy heart and soul" speaks to me...a hardy Canadian after all and the
one who's nuts about Open Space. And yes, you did jerk my chain again  and
challenged me about why not do "just" OS which I love.  Keep jerking my
chain on that :-}

However as someone that became enamored with this Open Space not that long
ago, I still remember what courage it took me to pose the questions that
Bernd or others do at times.  I notice in the answers that sometimes the
discussions get cut short because the answers of those who have been at this
so long seem so very definitive.   I remember when I will still figuring
things out, how comforting it was to hear some voices that seemed a bit more
like mine and how in the end, they helped me find my courage as much as the
definitive truths that I could not then know, those spoken by people who I
felt beyond my reach like you, Michael P, Spark, Herman and others.

Their support helped me learn and grown and made me feel just a bit less
intimidated. So sometimes, me as the beginner still, I wish with all my
heart that I can give courage to others as people gave me courage.  At the
same time, I worry that this may be my old controlling way or manipulative
way but then I say the hell with it, I will trust my heart and intuition
cause in the end, I want so many others to experience and love Open Space as
I do.  I know how I feel about Open Space and I know it even more every time
I "experience" something else. The irony is that by doing something else is
how I know that OS is like life and breath, not really a process. But
sometimes less is more...than nothing.

Now how's all that for a big fat enchilada!

Suzanne

2011/4/29 Suzanne Daigle <sdaigle4 at gmail.com>

> I can relate to Bernd's posting and getting stuck sometimes. I can also
> relate to the other postings advocating the benefits of "just" Open Space.
> In the end, this work is not easy.  It is painful and blissful, often the
> doors shut as they open just a crack because of what Michael P. has just
> said:  "our ability to see it (i.e. remembering open space) has withered
> under the forces of control".
>
> So I too have wondered about opening space in other ways than Open Space
> when the doors seem tightly shut. I then wonder if I am dishonoring
> "freedom" and "choice", "self-organizing" and all that is embodied in the
> Law of 2 Feet and the 4 Principles.
>
> Last night I was part of a team hosting a World Cafe. More than 60 people
> came, many strangers to each other, all hoping for a more diverse
> cross-cultural community. The event opened many hearts and sparked amazing
> conversations. As I sat there however, I felt myself imagining the
> possibilities of how ignited these same people might have been in Open
> Space. I knew it could have been more but then I had to stop myself knowing
> that what was happening in the moment was also magical. Truth be told, space
> opened last night.
>
> So while I know deeply inside of me that Open Space is my first love, I do
> not shut the door when other spaces open in other ways. Hopefully as I learn
> to be a little less controlling every day, regressing and progressing, I can
> be "open space" in so many places even if I have not been successful to
> invite people to take a risk and Open up bigger Space.
>
> Suzanne
>
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> 2011/4/29 Stanley Park <spark.osk at gmail.com>
>
>> My experiece tells that it has to do with daring to face and be true self
>> or not.
>>
>> Seemingly scary dragon that has imprisoned our soul suddenly gets dwarfed
>> upon resurgence of daring spirit. And I likely know spirit has been there in
>> the deeps of our being always with all it's power to be invoked.
>>
>> Ubiquitously powered by OST ;-))
>>
>> spark
>>
>> Director
>> Open Space Institute of Korea
>> http://openspace.kr
>>
>> 2011. 4. 29. 오후 10:53에 "Harrison Owen" <hhowen at verizon.net>님이 작성:
>>
>> My experience is that doing something “formal” first, followed by Open
>> Space works very well. And it certainly isn’t “blended” in any sense I would
>> understand. What doesn’t work is inserting Open Space into something else or
>> inserting something else into Open Space. By “not working,” I mean that the
>> flow is broken and people become confused even if they are apparently
>> following along. The only down side of doing what you propose is that people
>> will come up at the end to ask why they “wasted” all that time at the
>> beginning? Doesn’t always happen, but it happens often enough to make me
>> notice. Have fun.
>>
>>
>>
>> Harrison**
>>
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>>
>> Harrison Owen
>>
>> 7808 River Falls Dr.
>>
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>>
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>>
>> Phone 301-365-2093
>>
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>> *From:* oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:
>> oslist-bounces at lists.openspacetech.org] *On Behalf Of *Bernd Weber
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 29, 2011 7:03 AM
>> *To:* OSLIST
>> *Subject:* [OSList] Once again: Blending OST with Training - an absolute
>> NO NO?
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>> Hi All
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>>
>> Last month I posted about a new Learning Workshop Format-in-production:
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>> "Participan...
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Suzanne Daigle
NuFocus Strategic Group
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University Park, FL 34201
FL 941-359-8877;
CT 203-722-2009
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s.daigle at nufocusgroup.com
twitter @suzannedaigle
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