SV: SV: Online WOSonOS Documentation

Gerard Muller gm at openspace.dk
Thu May 20 14:05:43 PDT 2010 

Dear Thomas,

I recall the sensation of writing a report of a discussion, and suddenly someone ten thousand miles away inserting a paragraph 
in the middle of my document :-) - it gave really the sense of being connected to those who could not make it.

Greetings from Western Svenmark 

Gerard

Open Space Institute Denmark


On May 20, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Thomas Herrmann wrote:

> It sure was inspiring for us as organizers to have all of you out there contributing and involve yourselves with us at site in Swenmark. I remember we used the term off-site participants. We had a beamer to show new posts immediately and we also made copies to the reports I think. And it was so much fun to have a team of “helpers” out there to assist with whatever technicalities we bumped into – great teamwork! Txs again!
> Thomas
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> Från: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] För Michael Herman
> Skickat: den 20 maj 2010 07:50
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> Ämne: Re: SV: Online WOSonOS Documentation
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> i'd forgotten this altogether, artur.  and going back now to see it, i think we were rather ahead of our time.  wikis were really new.  i don't know if wikipedia had even started yet.  
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> i thought the osonos cafe was rather remarkable:  5 days and as best i can count, 27 different people checking in, from oz, europe (at the gathering and not), usa, canada.  harrison chimed in from maine.  it was all in english, but it didn't have to be.  that wiki could handle spanish or french or haitian creole just fine.  
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> if you've never been to an osonos gathering, this page is a pretty good teaser, as are some others, like the one you flagged, artur...http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark/OSonOSCafe ...and some good notes in the debriefing session, too.  
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> i guess the progress we made in marysville and svenmark got a bit lost when osonos went to india the following year.  maybe next year -- if not sooner -- we can pick up a bit where we left off.  openspaceworld.NET is still wide open for hosting and posting, for any osonos or other event.  
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> by the way, there is a fun story behind how wiki and open space came together.  i was facilitating an open space track at the 'agile/extreme programming' conference in chicago in 2002.  a guy named chris wege from stuttgart showed me how to set up a wiki and i taught him and some others about ost.  we both went off and used what we learned -- and used it a lot.  so these bits abotu agile using ost and ost using wiki always makes me smile.  
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> thanks for the reminding, artur.
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> Michael Herman
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> 2010/5/20 Artur Silva <arturfsilva at yahoo.com>
> Thanks, Thomas and Michael H. 
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> It was indeed the SwenMark OSonOS (2003) I was referring...
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> (I had planned to go, but then an helth problem, discovered in the previous month, did not allow me to go (and the organizers, did not obliged me to pay anything for the cancelation of my pre-commitement to go).
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> Anyhow, from my house, I could follow the discussions and even participate in it.
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> I have selected a page (of the first session of the Proceeedings) to show what was happennning. The proceedings were being typed in the wiki immediatly after the session. That allowed for a follow up discussion, and even for further comments, either by presencial participants or by anyone that could not came, for whatever reason. Being ill, I had the free time to participate (indirectly?) myself, which I did. I felt has if I was (almost) there. See this session as an example: http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark/HowToLearnToBeHappyWithWhatHappens
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> Artur
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> From: Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 12:39:02 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] SV: Online WOSonOS Documentation
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> all of the proceeding from marysville, australia, were posted to a wiki.  this was one of the earliest uses of the wiki that still holds half of the content of the www.openspaceworld.ORG website.  that was 2002, osonos10.  i was there in marysville and played caretaker for the whole wiki process.  we had a regular document, too, but a bit more happened online than in that doc.  http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/wiki.cgi?MarysvilleAustralia
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> then, the following year, thomas and friends posted all the svenmark notes from osonos11.  those got posted at the newwww.openspaceworld.NET side of things.  http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?OSonOSinSwenMark
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> after that, the planners for goa did not apparently have an interest in continuing this and things when in another direction.  
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> and, yes, as artur says, we had wikis set up for many languages, haitian, iberia (spanish and portuguese), estonia, italian, maybe french, too.  
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> i've offered web support to osonos hosts since then, but as more and more options became available and known and accessible to people everywhere, nobody else has taken me up on this.
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> personally, i think i prefer a weblog format for posting notes, unless there is a bunch of action and work and other meetings going to spring from a gathering.  
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> looking forward to the new wiki, and wondering if it'll be the sort of place where many future osonos's can be reported.
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> thanks, m 
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> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
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> http://www.ronanparktrail.com
> http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org
> http://www.openspaceworld.org
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> 312-280-7838 (mobile)
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> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> wrote:
> Hi Artur
> During the 11th World OSonOS in “Swenmark” (2003) we used a wiki to capture proceedings and invite people to participate on distance during, before and after the event. The proceedings and the wiki is to be found among the other OSonOS proceedings on OSW.org
> With assistance from Michael, Chris and others it worked wonderfully! I think.
> Best regards
> Thomas Herrmann
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> Från: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] För Artur Silva
> Skickat: den 19 maj 2010 23:50
> Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Ämne: Re: Online WOSonOS Documentation
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> Dear Holger and others:
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> Thank you for creating the Wiki for WOSonOS 2010 online digital documentation.
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> I have already sighed in. But I would like to request to the two "note takers" of the two sessions I have convened, if they could be so kind to "interpret" their own characters and put the report in the Wiki. Thank you.
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> Anyhow, Holger, from your post it may seem that it is the first time the OST community is using Wikis. And it is not. 9 years ago, in 2001, Michael Herman created the space http://www.openspaceworld.net/, that was, and still is, a Wiki. In that same year, some of the "international language pages", then created, have used wikis, and the Iberian one still is in an wiki (http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/iberia.cgi?), now closed due to spam and short of resources to cleaning it up every day.
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> And in one of the two following years (I think the next one, but I am not sure), all the reports have been created directly in a wiki (that I cannot find anymore) where they could be edited and commented by anyone in the world in real time, thus giving the possibility to anyone that could not came to OSonOS to have a sense of what was happening and really commenting. (What can be more inclusive than that?). Maybe that could be something to have repeated in one (or both) of the two following WOSonOS's - next year in Chile and/or in London, in 2012...
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> Regards
>  
> Artur   
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> From: Holger Nauheimer (Change Facilitation) <h.nauheimer at change-facilitation.org>
> To: Holger Nauheimer (Change Facilitation) <h.nauheimer at change-facilitation.org>
> Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 12:06:09 AM
> Subject: Online WOSonOS Documentation
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> Dear WOSonOS participants and friends,
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> As we have announced in the action planning of the WOSonOS, we want to do an online documentation of the results of the WOSonOS. For that, we have created a Wiki. A Wiki is a document which we can edit all – it has the spirit of Open Space. Don’t worry, writing in a Wiki is as simple as writing in a Word document.
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> This is a great experiment – because not only the conveners but all participants can take responsibility to convert the handwritten materials into typed script. Let us do t like an Open Space – self-organized.
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> Please read the following instructions VERY CAREFULLY:
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> 1.       We start with the documentation of the proceedings; the action planning will come a bit later.
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> 2.       With a separate email, you will get an invitation for our Wiki (from the software company PbWorks). You will need to follow this invitation to create an account. Please be assured that your data are secure, this is a professional business version of a commercial programme.
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> 3.       On the landing page (after you have created your account) you will find detailed instructions of how to proceed.
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> 4.       If you absolutely don’t want to use the Wiki for any reason, you might also send us a Word file with the text you have typed.
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> 5.       I made the status of all of you that of writers –meaning you cannot create or delete pages. If you want to be an editor, please let me know.
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> 6.       There is also comment functions:  we can have discussions about all issues and continue the discussions of the WOSonOS.
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> 7.       This will not work if we are not passionate about and if we don’t take our responsibility
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> With best regards
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> Holger Nauheimer
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