Organizational Transformation Conferences (was: Re: [OSLIST] ODWS - Journey through time; suggestions please !!)
Artur Silva
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Tue Jun 1 16:36:00 PDT 2010
What attachment are you talking about?
Artur
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From: Michael Herman <michael at michaelherman.com>
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Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Organizational Transformation Conferences (was: Re: [OSLIST] ODWS - Journey through time; suggestions please !!)
well, well. look at that. first attachments that actually go attached and made it to the list in about a hundred years. guess we're allowed to attach files now. m
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On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Susan M Kerr <susan.kerr at aurora.org> wrote:
>
>Hello Jack.
>
>Yes, it was. I'm sorry that I hadn't
>read the archives you attached when I posted. I see now where you call
>it Chicago; it was actually just up the lake a bit in Milwaukee. The theme
>was Welcoming Spirit which could be, I guess, a tad amorphous
>but I don't recall any weirdness nor intrigue unless one counts the polka
>dancing that took place by some participants when we joined the Polish
>fest at the lakefront one evening...
>
>The invitation is attached here. I believe
>Sheila truly hosted it solo as I remember being more amazed than helpful
>- I'm a bit institutionalized I'm afraid and was unclear of my role. (I
>was unsure about giving what I had which seems to be what happens around
>OS.)
>
>It was a small group - about 15 from
>the participant list I have but it may not be the final one. Most were
>from the US with a few from Sweden and Scotland.
>
>The 2nd attachment is something Sheila
>may have put together. It lists all the OTs, year and location, up to and
>including that OT23 one. I apologize for the Word docs but I don't have
>a webpage to post them to.
>
>
>
>I hope this is helpful. It looks as
>though when the OT was in two places one year they were "numbered"
>the same.
>Susan
>
>
>
>Jack Martin Leith <jack at leithcocreation.com>
>
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>06/01/2010 04:18 PM
>Please respond to
>
>>OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
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>Subject Re: [OSLIST] Organizational Transformation
>Conferences (was: Re: [OSLIST] ODWS - Journey through time; suggestions
>please !!)
>
>
>
>
>
>Hiya Susan.
>
>Thanks for the information about the final OT conference,
>held in Milwaukee.
>
>Is this the one that I had pegged as Chicago, convened
>by Sheila Isakson, Bill Isakson, Susan Kerr, and facilitated by John Adams?
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Jack
>
>>Jack Martin Leith
>>Leith Co-creation
>>London, United Kingdom
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>
>On 1 June 2010 03:09, Susan M Kerr <susan.kerr at aurora.org>
>wrote:
>Dear Artur, Jeff, and All:
>
>Jeff, I'm sorry to contradict you but
>the last OT I attended did indeed take place in my home town of Milwaukee.
>It may have been OT 23 in 2005 but I don't keep up with dates and numbers
>very well. I had attended the year before in northern Scotland and fell
>in love with the people and the rich dialogue we had. There was richness
>to be found that following year in Milwaukee as well. I was (still
>consider myself to be) "new" to OS and thought that group was
>a kind of subset of this larger community and the way they stayed
>in contact was through this very list.
>
>Even though I was there for the last
>two, if indeed they were they last two, I didn't hear any news of
>one the following year, in London or elsewhere. So I cannot help you,
>Artur, with what happened after the one in Milwaukee. Perhaps someone else
>who attended but hasn't had an opportunity to chime in yet will be
>able to shed more light.
>
>Grateful for the learning,
>Susan Kerr
>Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
>
>
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>From: Jeff Aitken <magic.teams at hotmail.com>
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>>
>Date: 05/31/2010 06:24PM
>
>>Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Organizational Transformation Conferences (was: Re:
>[OSLIST] ODWS - Journey through time; suggestions please !!)
>
>>Thanks for posting some history of the OT symposia Jack.
>
>I attended many in the US from 1991-1996,
>and the European OT9 in Hungary. I remember one participant convening a
>workshop that included burning money. To me, it was not outside the range
>of typical behavior with a few hundred 'transformation' oriented folks
>being together for three or four days in open space with a somewhat amorphous
>theme statement. There was a great deal of weirdness and intrigue. They
>were all very different events, and great fun and great learning for the
>most part. And I don't blame open space for any of the troubling parts.
>
>
>John Adams told me that the last OT
>symposium in Wisconsin did not take place because of lack of interest,
>about five years ago, and at that point there was the decision to discontinue.
>
>
>Jeff
>Mount Tamalpais
>
>
________________________________
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 17:04:47 +0100
>
>>From: jack at leithcocreation.com
>>Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Organizational Transformation Conferences (was: Re:
>[OSLIST] ODWS - Journey through time; suggestions please !!)
>>To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>
>Thanks for raising this, Artur.
>
>I've pulled a couple of old web pages
>about the OT symposia from my very dusty digital archives, blown off the
>cobwebs, and uploaded them to www.leithcocreation.com/ot
>.
>
>Hope these are useful.
>
>In 1988, John Adams ( www.eartheart-ent.com
>) wrote:
>
>Sometime during the very early years
>of this decade [the 1980s], probably in 1981 or 1982, a large number of
>people began to use the term organisation transformation to describe their
>work. During the Spring of 1982, a few of these people recognized each
>other at a conference outside of Boston, and began to discuss their common
>interest in concepts like vision,
>purpose, spirit in the workplace and
>global perspective
>.
>
>Could it be that the ideas highlighted
>in red are taken as read (sorry - no pun intended) these days, and that
>OD has - to some extent - morphed into OT, as you mention?
>
>The rest of the John Adams article can
>be found here: www.leithcocreation.com/ot
>.
>
>With regard to your earlier email, I
>agree that PC is rife in the Open Space community, and that it is not safe
>to raise certain issues - not only in these posts, but beyond OSList.
>
>Two years ago, Paul Levy and I announced
>a discussion session, Open Space 2.0: Beyond the Dogma. The announcement
>triggered some hostility and a heap of defensive responses. Paul received
>an item of what can only be called hate mail from a prominent member of
>the so-called OS community (perhaps more like what Scott Peck would call
>'pseudo-community').
>
>Pseudo-community: Where participants
>are "nice with each other", playing-safe, and presenting what
>they feel is the most favourable sides of their personalities.
>Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community
>
>
>I've had similar responses to other
>posts, which is why I rarely post to this list these days.
>
>25 years down the track, if they survive
>that long, most organisational concepts and tools have splintered
>and evolved. Open Space hasn't, and I'm not sure this is a good thing.
>It seems to reflect a degree of orthodoxy.
>
>I await howls of protest.
>
>Thank you again, Artur. These things
>need to be said.
>
>If some among you fear taking a stand
>because you are afraid of reprisals from customers, clients, or even government,
>recognize that you are just feeding the crocodile, hoping he'll eat you
>last. – Ronald Reagan
>
>>Jack
>
>Jack Martin Leith
>>Leith Co-creation
>>London, United Kingdom
>>email: jack at leithcocreation.com
>
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>
>
>On 29 May 2010 19:19, Artur Silva <
>arturfsilva at yahoo.com
>> wrote:
>Dear all
>
>Thanks for the map, Jack.
>
>The map, and some clarifications
>by Harrison, reminded me of a different thing.
>
>OST was born in the "Organization
>Transformation Conferences".
>
>In WOSonOS in Berlin, I met a lady
>(that I cannot remember the name and later have not seen her again to ask
>for the contacts) that told me that the last OT Conference was to be held
>in London, but there were insufficient registrations and it did not took
>place. Nor any other after that.
>
>In ancient mails, in the OSLIST
>Archives, I can see that OT22 took place in Scotland, in 2004, and OT23
>was planned to take place in Milwaukee, in 2005. I also remember to later
>receive an invitation to London, and I even considered to go there (and
>profit to see my sister and my English family, in Brighton). But later
>I could not. But that exchange of mails is lost with a computer that crashed
>many moons ago.
>
>If there is anyone that can complete
>the story from OT22 to the last one that took (or not) place, I would be
>grateful.
>
>I would also like to understand
>why the OT Conferences died (without any trace that I could discover in
>the Internet).
>
>And why have the OT Conferences
>died if the distinction between OD and OT is IMHO more needed now than
>ever before?
>
>Maybe this can be somehow related
>with my previous post.
>If there is no longer a clear distinction
>between OD and OT, than OST and all the other "large group facilitation
>methods" belong after all to the same stream - OD.
>
>Interesting, don't you think?
>
>Regards
>
>Artur
>
>
________________________________
From: Harrison Owen < hhowen at verizon.net
>>
>>To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>
>>Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 10:34:02 PM
>>Subject: Re: [OSLIST] ODWS - Journey through time; suggestions please
>!!
>
>Jack – I have always loved
>your “map” – if only because it provides me and (indirectly I
>presume), and Open Space Technology with an impressive lineage which is
>at once colorful, although perhaps undeserved. It is true that my
>first public foray into the realm of Organization Transformation happened
>at a regional conference of ODN (Organization Development Network) – I
>gave a paper. What is also true is that at the time I had no real clue
>what Organization Development might be, where it came from, or what it
>might be useful for. My inspiration, training and experience came from
>a rather different place, including but not limited to a layman’s understanding
>of the New Physics, a rather deeper understanding of the myth and ritual
>of the ancient near east, and an appreciation of a variety of (what now
>would be called) esoteric traditions. Strange things like Tibetan Buddhism,
>Sufi thought (Rumi), some deep learning at the feet of (West) African Shamans,
>the work of Joseph Campbell, Ken Wilbur – and other assorted denizens
>of the Fringe. I wouldn’t claim academic expertise for most of this, but
>existential, on the ground experience for sure. Truth to tell, when Organization
>Transformation first reflected the light of day it was not viewed in a
>positive fashion by the powers that be (were) in the world of OD. Definitely
>heretical! Off the Wall! Out of Sight!! Some still feel that way, I am
>sure – but times change. And a lot of the people who found the idea of
>Organization Transformation radically abhorrent became friends. I can’t
>say we have always agreed – but we are friends.
>
>And then we come to Open Space
>Technology. It does not come from, nor is it part of the great tradition
>(lately created) of Large Scale Interventions. It began as it remains –
>The product of two Martinis (and before that the Big Bang)! There
>was no careful research, no critical analysis of preceding efforts – just
>a little Gin and (much less) vermouth. And with all that as ancestors,
>you got to keep it simple. – Sit in a circle, create a bulletin
>board, open a market place – and Go to work. Hasn’t changed a bit ever
>since. But I am sure that our understanding of what happens has gone a
>lot deeper – which is not to say that we are getting anywhere near the
>depths we must achieve. But we are moving in the right direction, I think.
>And it is fun.
>
>Harrison
>
>
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>From: OSLIST [mailto: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>] On Behalf Of Jack Martin
>Leith
>>Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:11 PM
>>To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>
>>Subject: Re: ODWS - Journey through time; suggestions please !!
>
>Thanks for mentioning the map, Michael.
>
>I've just uploaded it to my server in case
>anyone wants to see it.
>
>Here's the URL: www.leithcocreation.com/documents/history-of-large-group-methods.doc
>
>
>It's a big file ... sorry ... I don't have
>time right now to make it any smaller.
>
>Jack
>
>>Jack Martin Leith
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>
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>
>On 27 May 2010 15:05, Michael Herman <
>michael at michaelherman.com
>> wrote:
>i'll second jeff's recommendation of marv
>weisbord's 'productive workplaces.' that was the first thing that
>came to mind here. another was a map that jack martin leith did some
>years ago, showing overlapping development paths of various methods and
>leading practitioners. jack?
>
>>m
>
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>>Michael Herman
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>On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 4:39 AM, VISUELLE
>PROTOKOLLE < mail at visuelle-protokolle.de
>> wrote:
>Dear Gerard,
>
>>Our friend Jon Jenkins, who sadly died recently, said as the father of
>the IAF Method Database, that right now the three most important elements
>in our profession are VISUALIZATION, STORYTELLING and ONLINE METHODS.
>
>>Greetings from Italy
>
>>Reinhard Kuchenmüller
>
>
>>VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE®
>www.visuelle-protokolle.de
>
>>+39-0566-88929
>
>
>
>
>>Am 27/05/10 08:16 schrieb "Gerard Muller" unter < gm at openspace.dk
>>:
>Dear All,
>
>>At the upcoming Organisational Development World Summit (see http://www.odworldsummit.org/
>, which is organised in collaboration
>with several organisations and communities - amongst which several who
>are on this list , we are organising part of the program as a special journey
>through the history of our profession, before we move into it’s future.
>
>
>>I would like to ask for your help in identifying what you feel are the
>2-3 elements which deserve a place in this journey. This could be either
>in the history of the profession (a book, a bit of research, the
>birth of an method or theory), or in the history of the society around
>(political, technological, ...).
>
>>If you have a specific idea how to represent the elements which come to
>mind, that would be great.
>>In the case of a publication, it could be the book itself, in the case
>of an event maybe the invitation,
>>a poster, pictures. But we’ll also have space for filmclips and music.
>
>
>>Please mail any ideas to my E-mail at gm at openspace.dk
>, in the course of the coming week.
>
>
>>Thanks for your assistance !!
>
>>Greetings from Denmark,
>
>
>
>
>>Gerard Muller
>
>>Open Space Institute Denmark
>>Phone: (+45) 21269621
>>Mail: gm at openspace.dk
>
>>Skype: openspace1
>www.openspace.dk
>< http://www.openspace.dk/
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