oslist will end soon -- it's time to deliberate, decide and act

[Peggy Holman]

Harold,

Thanks for stepping in with such a great solution.  I'll add one little twist, if possible.  The current archives goes back to 1999.  I have an additional ~1,000 messages that take us back to the list's beginnings in December, 1996.

Is it possible to incorporate them into the archives?

Peggy

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On Dec 24, 2010, at 8:32 PM, Harold Shinsato wrote:

> Hi Raffi,
> 
> You're welcome. Thanks for insisting that I take a closer look. Bottom line - no - this is not a problem and I don't think we need to process more messages first. The conversion is working perfectly. But there is something to consider.
> 
> The ListServ software collects the messages as they come in and creates a separate archive file for each month. Looking over the 54 messages that Michael Herman posted online to http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist.log9904 there's a message definitely marked as if it were from June 1999. So if you take the messages at their word - the message is really from June 1999. So the conversion did not introduce any errors. (You can check this yourself at Michael's link.)
> 
> But based on the context, the one message with the June date stamp looks like the person who sent it had put an invalid time stamp on their message. I get messages like this sometimes from people who don't set the clock on their computer properly.
> 
> The Mailman software does not collect the messages into separate files for each month. Mailman stores the archived messages all in a single mbox file. So the date sorting is very dependent on the timestamp on the messages being accurate to sort them properly.
> 
> So even though the conversion happened properly - it might be worthwhile going over all the ListServ archives and making a guess at the correct timestamp. The message was written somewhere between April 17 and April 20, 1999 based on the message thread evidence. Hopefully it didn't happen that often, as it's a bit of detective work for each message.
> 
>     Happy Holidays!
>     Harold
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/24/10 5:10 PM, Raffi Aftandelian wrote:
>> Harold, thanks for this. I'm really grateful that you have taken this time,
>> along with Michael Herman, to research a post-Boise home for OSlist.
>> 
>> And just to clarify:
>> 
>> You're saying that in your test run you converted one month, April 1999. And
>> that you're confident that the stray message from June 1999 (which isn't
>> really from June 1999) should not be an indication of a problem?
>> 
>> I don't know if you'd have the chance to do so, I'm wondering if you think it would be worthwhile to convert a few more months just to make sure that
>> this conversion would work?
>> 
>> happy holidays and belated yalda!
>> 
>> appreciatively,
>> Raffi
>> 
> 
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