oslist will end soon -- it's time to deliberate, decide and act

[sdaigle4 at comcast.net]

Wow Harold. The precious gift that you are giving to this community with  
such loving attention and that wonderful sense of humor of yours plus the  
extraordinary work of Michael over so many years are truly Christmas gifts  
that never stop giving. Thank you so much to both of you.  Suzanne

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-----Original message-----
From: Harold Shinsato <harold at shinsato.com>
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Sent: Thu, Jan 1, 1970 00:00:00 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: oslist will end soon -- it's time to deliberate, decide and act

Hi Raffi,

You're welcome. Thanks for insisting that I take a closer look. Bottom line  
- no - this is not a problem and I don't think we need to process more  
messages first. The conversion is working perfectly. But there is something  
to consider.

The ListServ software collects the messages as they come in and creates a  
separate archive file for each month. Looking over the 54 messages that  
Michael Herman posted online to http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist.log9904  
there's a message definitely marked as if it were from June 1999. So if you  
take the messages at their word - the message is really from June 1999. So  
the conversion did not introduce any errors. (You can check this yourself at  
Michael's link.)

But based on the context, the one message with the June date stamp looks  
like the person who sent it had put an invalid time stamp on their message.  
I get messages like this sometimes from people who don't set the clock on  
their computer properly.

The Mailman software does not collect the messages into separate files for  
each month. Mailman stores the archived messages all in a single mbox file.  
So the date sorting is very dependent on the timestamp on the messages being  
accurate to sort them properly.

So even though the conversion happened properly - it might be worthwhile  
going over all the ListServ archives and making a guess at the correct  
timestamp. The message was written somewhere between April 17 and April 20,  
1999 based on the message thread evidence. Hopefully it didn't happen that  
often, as it's a bit of detective work for each message.

      Happy Holidays!
      Harold



On 12/24/10 5:10 PM, Raffi Aftandelian wrote:
> Harold, thanks for this. I'm really grateful that you have taken this  
time,
> along with Michael Herman, to research a post-Boise home for OSlist.
>
> And just to clarify:
>
> You're saying that in your test run you converted one month, April 1999.  
And
> that you're confident that the stray message from June 1999 (which isn't
> really from June 1999) should not be an indication of a problem?
>
> I don't know if you'd have the chance to do so, I'm wondering if you >  
think it would be worthwhile to convert a few more months just to > make  
sure that
> this conversion would work?
>
> happy holidays and belated yalda!
>
> appreciatively,
> Raffi
>

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