Wikis and Open Space

Mon Nov 30 15:07:42 PST 2009

> "What wikis
are for internet, Open Space is for face to face meetings".

<grin> those not familiar with wiki and ward cunningham might appreciate
another quote of ward's, about what a wiki is:  "wiki is the simplest online
database that could possibly work."

--

Michael Herman
Michael Herman Associates

http://www.michaelherman.com
http://www.ronanparktrail.com
http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org
http://www.openspaceworld.org

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On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:43 PM, <openspacedk1 at webhotel18.webhosting.dk>wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> To Michaels' summary I can add one detail about the link between Open
> Space and Wikis.
> The 2006 Wikisym, where Ted & I facilitated the Open Space part, was the
> one and only time where I went not knowing the central theme, not having
> met either my client or my
> co-facilitator, and not knowing the exact time schedule either. Nor was it
> clear who was going to make an opening statement. I had visited the
> premises so I had an idea what was possible, and other than that after
> having E-mailed and Skyped a bit I had a sense
> we'd figure things out at the site, the evening beforehand.
>
> The one detail that came to my mind is that while we were sitting at a
> dinner table
> in a restaurant not far from the meeting site, and we came to the point on
> my little checklist on who would make an openings statement, there were a
> couple other participants at another table, one of whom was Ward
> Cunningham. He gracefully accepted
> making an opening statement, and I recall one sentence from it "What wikis
> are for internet, Open Space is for face to face meetings".
>
> How's that for a summary, or quote ?
>
> Greetings from Holland,
>
>
>
>
> Gerard Muller
> Open Space Institute Denmark
>
>
>
>
> > hello rut,
> >
> > here  is some of the link between wiki and open space...
> >
> > peggy holman told me about wiki, maybe as early as 1999 or 2000?  i went
> > to see ward's wiki and portland pattern language and didn't understand
> > any of it.  in fact, i walked around for a few days utterly baffled by
> > this word "pattern" that i thought i remembered actually knowing and
> > using, but now i had no idea what it meant anymore.
> >
> > then, the real connecting happened in 2001.  i facilitatated a big slice
> > of the agile/xp universe (agile development, extreme programming)
> > conference here in chicago.  they used a wiki to capture all the
> > proceedings.  along the way, a participant from stuttgart, chris wega,
> > coached me in how to set up a wiki, and asked lots of questions about
> > facilitating open space.  i had a wiki up and running by the end of the
> > conference.  six months later, i'd set them up at open spaceworld for
> > all the english content, for artur's iberian language work, for the
> > estonians, and some others.  we used a wiki for the proceedings of the
> > 2002 osonos in marysville (australia) and i introduced wikis to my
> > training groups in various places around the world, using it to capture
> > some proceedings.  i also heard from chris that he'd gone home and the
> > local/regional java users group/board had blown up and he'd jumped in
> > and facilitated a larger open space meeting of the membership in that
> > vacuum.  so that was one big trade.  i know i met diana larsen at that
> > conference, as well.  and if she knew about ost before the conference,
> > she knew more about it afterward, and that's when she started
> > facilitating ost, i think.
> >
> > later, 2006, a number of us organized "recent changes camp" in portland.
> > this was a downstream thing that flowed from a "giving conference" and
> > two "omidyar member conferences" that we'd planned in 2004 and 2005.
> > the planning for recent changes camp was actually begun by ted ernst and
> > some wiki folks, who'd been to our earlier conferences and so used the
> > expansive dashboard of their mini-van as that posting wall for open
> > space discussion topics, as they drove from portland to seattle to *san
> > diego* to wikisym. at wiki sym, they opened a spontaneous space with a
> > bulletin board wall for issues created in a hallway and with nametags
> > that said "ask me about open space."  ted ernst was asked to facilitate
> > more formal open space at two or more subsequent wikisyms, one of which
> > he co-facilitated with gerard muller.
> >
> > when recent changes camp did happen, i facilitated that.  ward
> > cunningham, wiki creator, was there, as were a number of other very wiki
> > people.  the point of the event was, after the wikisym guerrilla open
> > space effort, to do a proper 3-day open space, with wiki folks, other
> > tech folks and a bunch of community organizer/facilitator types, to make
> > a lot of connecting and learning, but also so the techies could get a
> > really good, clean look at ost.  many were intrigued, given barcamp
> > history, but hadn't seen a good clean ost event.  so they ran the test,
> > it worked perfectly.  the whole thing was planned, documented, and
> > sustained for several rounds, maybe still echoing, in a series of wiki
> > sites.  kaliya hamlin was among the more technical folks present for
> > that first recent changes camp, so that was another big connecting
> > between the two stories.
> >
> > there's no doubt more to the story than this, but these are likely some
> > of the big chunks.
> >
> > m
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Michael Herman
> > Michael Herman Associates
> >
> > http://www.michaelherman.com
> > http://www.ronanparktrail.com
> > http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org
> > http://www.openspaceworld.org
> >
> > 312-280-7838 (mobile)
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:18 AM, rut jesus <rut.jesus at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear All,
> >>
> >> Anne Goldenberg and I have recently proposed to the conference
> >> WikiWars (to be held in Bangalore, January 2010) an installation
> >> (consisting of a giant cube with concepts to be written, connected,
> >> discussed) that is a mixture of Open Space, Glass Plate Game and Mind
> >> Maps.
> >>
> >> So, we have a question to the list that would really inform our work:
> >>
> >> - The link between Open Space and Wikis seems to be there. Who were
> >> the people who did it? Has anyone written about it?
> >>
> >> We were also interested in finding out what academic/research work has
> >> been done on Open Space, where to find it, what were the
> >> results/conclusions - but this was answered in a post some days ago.
> >> thank you.
> >>
> >> best wishes,
> >> Rut
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