Roll Call: Present

NigelSeys-Phillips nigel at fulcrum.com.sg
Mon Nov 30 00:57:06 PST 2009


With apologies to all for the delay....compounded by a few days out of
e-mail contact (yes....it's still possible I promise if you try) and the
resulting requirement for that delete button again....but definitely
present!!

All the best
Nigel
(wondering what the in box will be like when I switch on again....but up at
35000 feet it kind of makes no difference right now)

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-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Erik
Fabian
Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 5:13 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: [OSLIST] Roll Call: Present

I was intrigued by Phelim's observation that the OSLIST, not being a
physical space, lacks the 
information that comes from people sitting silent or choosing to leave.

I invite the many folks, the lurkers, the newbies, the old hands, the folks
with better things to do, 
anyone really...to respond to this message with a "present" if you would
like to be noted as attending 
to this virtual space.

I know it won't solve the exiting problem but it might perhaps give a sense
of scale to the ratio of 
talkers to the silent.

Erik - present

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>From  Mon Nov 30 10:17:59 2009
Message-Id: <MON.30.NOV.2009.101759.0100.>
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:17:59 +0100
Reply-To: thomas at openspaceconsulting.com
To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
Organization: Open Space Consulting
Subject: VB: [OSLIST] SV: Statistics,
 was: Open Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam,
 being readied for "speedy deletion"
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Forwarded to OS-list =96 came to me only

THomas

=20

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Fr=E5n: Peggy Holman [mailto:peggy at opencirclecompany.com]=20
Skickat: den 30 november 2009 02:43
Till: thomas at openspaceconsulting.com
=C4mne: Re: [OSLIST] SV: Statistics, was: Open Space Tech article on =
Wikipedia
marked as spam, being readied for "speedy deletion"

=20

Michael,

=20

The OS I did in Bogota with 1800+ street kids and 300+ teachers or 2100+
people was essentially the same size as the one done in Berlin.  And it =
was
2 days!

=20

I know that smaller OS's have been described on this list.  I believe =
that
both Lisa and Chris Corrigan have told stories of OS meetings with 1 or =
2
people.  I'm pretty sure Chris also had a story of an OS where no one =
came,
though I take your point about a meeting with no one probably wouldn't =
make
much sense on Wikipedia!

=20

Peggy

=20

=20

On Nov 29, 2009, at 3:05 PM, Thomas Herrmann wrote:





OK, Michael =96 thanks

Regarding the lower level =96 I agree it=92s probably too difficult to =
explain
the mastery it takes to facilitate/participate in an OST, as a =
facilitator,
when no one shows up. Anyway, I agree that to people who are new to Open
Space, it might be a bit too much.=20

If I ever get the chance I will sure invite myself to having that
experience.

Txs

Thomas

=20

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Fr=E5n: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] F=F6r Michael =
Herman
Skickat: den 29 november 2009 22:47
Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
=C4mne: Re: Statistics, was: Open Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked =
as
spam, being readied for "speedy deletion"

=20

good on the sweden chartering, thomas.  i'll fix that in my notes.

and sticking with what we can document and cite in wikipedia, i decided =
to
go with 5 as the smallest, rather than try to explain the finer points =
of
the practice!  wikipedia is not going to understand how a meeting
methodology can work in groups of "0" to 5000, i think <grin>

thanks, m


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On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Thomas Herrmann
<thomas at openspaceconsulting.com> wrote:

Hi Michael

Thanks for these statistics!!=20

=20

A couple of suggested additions/corrections.

1.      OSI Sweden is also a registered non-profit organization.

2.      I actually think that Lisa Heft followed through with a smaller
OS-meeting =96 a record hard to break.

Warm regards

Thomas Herrmann

=20

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Fr=E5n: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] F=F6r Michael =
Herman
Skickat: den 29 november 2009 20:37
Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
=C4mne: Re: Open Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam, being =
readied
for "speedy deletion"

=20

i've wanted to ask you all to help me build out a list of statistics, a =
sort
of open space tech "by the numbers".  i was going to make this part of =
the
osw site, but it might come in very handy in posting as part of this
wikipedia article.

here are some examples, please check my math and add any other =
interesting
numbers:

-the first ost meeting happened in 1985 at the symposium for =
organization
transformation (OT)
-a total of 20 OT symposia were held annually, that last 19 of them were =
run
"in open space"
-ost meetings have now happened in 165 countries, as listed at
openspaceworldmap.org <http://openspaceworldmap.org/>=20
-there are 469 facilitators listed in the openspaceworldmap.org
<http://openspaceworldmap.org/>=20
-the worldwide open space on open space practitioner conference has been
annually since 1993
-the wosonos conference has been held in 8 different countries=20
-an email group, called OSLIST, for practitioners worldwide was started =
in
1996.
-as of december 2009, there are more than 26,400 messages in the OSLIST
publicly searchable archives.
-OSLIST membership in december 2009 stood at 662.
-there are __ open space institutes active around the world.
-three open space institute groups (US, Canada, and Germany) are formal,
government-chartered, non-profit organizations
-openspaceworld.org <http://openspaceworld.org/>  offers (or links to)
explanations of open space technology in more than 20 different =
languages.
-harrison owen has authored 8 books on the process.
-harrison owen estimates that there have been more than 100,000 =
applications
of open space since 1985.
-the smallest open space meeting commonly reported was a meeting run by
harrison owen, for 5 participants (when 7 others were snowed out)
-the largest open space meetings commonly reported were in germany, 2108
participants, facilitated by harrison owen and michael pannwitz (theme?) =
and
____ participants at a girl scouts event in _______, facilitated by
christine whitney sanchez and (others?)

what other numbers might we offer?  and did i get these right?



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<http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org/>=20
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312-280-7838 (mobile)

On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> =
wrote:

Bye Bye

Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, Maryland   20854
Phone 301-365-2093
Skype hhowen
Open Space Training www.openspaceworld.com =
<http://www.openspaceworld.com/>=20
Open Space Institute www.openspaceworld.org =
<http://www.openspaceworld.org/>

Personal website www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com/>=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Dirk
Riehle
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:43 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Open Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam, being =
readied
for "speedy deletion"

Subject line says it all, article is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Space_Technology

Dirk

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Peggy Holman [mailto:peggy at opencirclecompany.com] <br>
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2009
02:43<br>
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w:st=3D"on">thomas at openspaceconsulting.com</st1:PersonName><br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>The OS I did in <st1:City w:st=3D"on">Bogota</st1:City> with =
1800+ street
kids and 300+ teachers or 2100+ people was essentially the same size as =
the one
done in <st1:State w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Berlin</st1:place></st1:State>.
 And it was 2 days!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I know that smaller OS's have been described on this list. =
 I
believe that both Lisa and Chris Corrigan have told stories of OS =
meetings with
1 or 2 people.  I'm pretty sure Chris also had a story of an OS =
where no
one came, though I take your point about a meeting with no one probably
wouldn't make much sense on Wikipedia!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>OK, Michael – =
thanks<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>Regarding the lower level – I agree =
it’s probably too
difficult to explain the mastery it takes to facilitate/participate in =
an OST,
as a facilitator, when no one shows up. Anyway, I agree that to people =
who are
new to Open Space, it might be a bit too much. =
<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>If I ever get the chance I will sure invite myself =
to
having that experience.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>Txs<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>Thomas<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Fr=E5n:</span></font></b><font =
size=3D2
face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> =
<st1:personname u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> =
[mailto:<st1:personname u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.=
EDU] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>F=F6r </span></b>Michael Herman<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Skickat:</span></b> den 29 november =
2009
22:47<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Till:</span></b> <st1:personname =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>@LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.=
EDU<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>=C4mne:</span></b> Re: Statistics, =
was: Open
Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam, being readied for =
"speedy
deletion"</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>good on the =
<st1:country-region u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">sweden</st1:place></st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:coun=
try-region>
chartering, thomas.  i'll fix that in my notes.<br>
<br>
and sticking with what we can document and cite in wikipedia, i decided =
to go
with 5 as the smallest, rather than try to explain the finer points of =
the
practice!  wikipedia is not going to understand how a meeting =
methodology
can work in groups of "0" to 5000, i think <grin><br>
<br>
thanks, m<br>
<br clear=3Dall>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
Michael Herman<br>
Michael Herman Associates<br>
<br>
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href=3D"http://www.michaelherman.com/">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><b=
r>
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href=3D"http://www.ronanparktrail.com/">http://www.ronanparktrail.com</a>=
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rvationcorps.org</a><br>
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312-280-7838 (mobile)<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Thomas Herrmann <<a
href=3D"mailto:thomas at openspaceconsulting.com">thomas at openspaceconsulting=
.com</a>>
wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>Hi
Michael</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>Thanks
for these statistics!! </span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'> </span></font><u1:p=
></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>A
couple of suggested =
additions/corrections.</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>1.</span></font><font size=3D1><span =
style=3D'font-size-adjust: none;
font-stretch: normal'><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>     
</span></span></font><font size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>OSI Sweden is also a registered non-profit =
organization.</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>2.</span></font><font size=3D1><span =
style=3D'font-size-adjust: none;
font-stretch: normal'><span =
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt'>     
</span></span></font><font size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>I actually think that Lisa Heft followed through =
with a
smaller OS-meeting – a record hard to =
break.</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>Warm
regards</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'>Thomas
Herrmann</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D4 face=3DGaramond><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Garamond'> </span></font><u1:p=
></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><font
size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:
bold'>Fr=E5n:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:personname u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>F=F6r </span></b>Michael Herman<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Skickat:</span></b> den 29 november =
2009
20:37<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Till:</span></b> <a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>=C4mne:</span></b> Re: Open Space =
Tech article
on Wikipedia marked as spam, being readied for "speedy =
deletion"</span></font><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></p>

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style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></=
p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>i've =
wanted to ask
you all to help me build out a list of statistics, a sort of open space =
tech
"by the numbers".  i was going to make this part of the =
osw
site, but it might come in very handy in posting as part of this =
wikipedia
article.<br>
<br>
here are some examples, please check my math and add any other =
interesting
numbers:<br>
<br>
-the first ost meeting happened in 1985 at the symposium for =
organization
transformation (OT)<br>
-a total of 20 OT symposia were held annually, that last 19 of them were =
run
"in open space"<br>
-ost meetings have now happened in 165 countries, as listed at <a
href=3D"http://openspaceworldmap.org/" =
target=3D"_blank">openspaceworldmap.org</a><br>
-there are 469 facilitators listed in the <a
href=3D"http://openspaceworldmap.org/" =
target=3D"_blank">openspaceworldmap.org</a><br>
-the worldwide open space on open space practitioner conference has been
annually since 1993<br>
-the wosonos conference has been held in 8 different countries <br>
-an email group, called <st1:personname u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>,
for practitioners worldwide was started in 1996.<br>
-as of december 2009, there are more than 26,400 messages in the =
<st1:personname u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PersonName
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> publicly searchable
archives.<br>
-<st1:personname u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:personname></st1:PersonName>
membership in december 2009 stood at 662.<br>
-there are __ open space institutes active around the world.<br>
-three open space institute groups (US, <st1:country-region =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:country-region>, and =
<st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:country-region
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Germany</st1:country-region></st1:place></st1:place></st1:cou=
ntry-region>)
are formal, government-chartered, non-profit organizations<br>
-<a href=3D"http://openspaceworld.org/" =
target=3D"_blank">openspaceworld.org</a>
offers (or links to) explanations of open space technology in more than =
20 different
languages.<br>
-<st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">harrison</st1:place></st1:place>
owen has authored 8 books on the process.<br>
-<st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">harrison</st1:place></st1:place>
owen estimates that there have been more than 100,000 applications of =
open
space since 1985.<br>
-the smallest open space meeting commonly reported was a meeting run by =
<st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place
w:st=3D"on">harrison</st1:place></st1:place> owen, for 5 participants =
(when 7
others were snowed out)<br>
-the largest open space meetings commonly reported were in germany, 2108
participants, facilitated by harrison owen and michael pannwitz (theme?) =
and
____ participants at a girl scouts event in _______, facilitated by =
christine
whitney sanchez and (others?)<br>
<br>
what other numbers might we offer?  and did i get these right?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
<br>
Michael Herman<br>
Michael Herman Associates<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.michaelherman.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><br>
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target=3D"_blank">http://www.ronanparktrail.com</a><br>
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target=3D"_blank">http://www.chicagoconservationcorps.org</a><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org</a><br>
<br>
312-280-7838 (mobile)<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>On =
Sun, Nov 29,
2009 at 1:09 PM, <st1:personname u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">Harrison
 Owen</st1:personname></st1:PersonName> <<a =
href=3D"mailto:hhowen at verizon.net"
target=3D"_blank">hhowen at verizon.net</a>> =
wrote:<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><font
size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Bye =
Bye<br>
<br>
<st1:personname u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PersonName w:st=3D"on">Harrison =
Owen</st1:personname></st1:PersonName><br>
<st1:street u2:st=3D"on"><st1:address u2:st=3D"on"><st1:Street =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:address
 w:st=3D"on">7808 River Falls =
Drive</st1:address></st1:street></st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<st1:place u2:st=3D"on"><st1:city u2:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:City
 w:st=3D"on">Potomac</st1:city></st1:City>, <st1:state =
u2:st=3D"on"><st1:State
 w:st=3D"on">Maryland</st1:state></st1:State>   =
<st1:postalcode u2:st=3D"on"><st1:PostalCode
 =
w:st=3D"on">20854</st1:postalcode></st1:place></st1:PostalCode></st1:plac=
e><br>
Phone 301-365-2093<br>
Skype hhowen<br>
Open Space Training <a href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a><br>
Open Space Institute <a href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.openspaceworld.org</a><br>
Personal website <a href=3D"http://www.ho-image.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.ho-image.com</a><br>
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target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
On Behalf Of Dirk<br>
Riehle<br>
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 1:43 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a><br>
Subject: Open Space Tech article on Wikipedia marked as spam, being =
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