re honouring each other

[Pat Black]

Thanks for this Michael.  It resonates for me.
Pat Black

 even harrison has told stories about the places where he first learned this
> piece or that piece of what became the practice of open space.  discovered
> not invented.
>
> that's what i think really distinguishes this conversation from so many
> others about methods and techniques.  there's a lineage here.  i think the
> nature of lineage is equal parts challenge and support, the outside might
> look challenging but inside there is also a strong flow of support.  it's
> about knowing and not, the past is quite well known and oft-told, but the
> future is uncertain, adapting and evolving.  so the only way for lineage to
> continue is to balance all of that.
>
> it's a very active, dynamic process and if you're here, on this list,
> learning quietly or contributing vocally, you're already it in.  cuz in the
> end, the practice isn't about the lurking or posting, learning or
> contributing, it's about each of us navigating for ourselves the edge that
> runs between them.  no matter if you've posted or not, if you've considered
> posting... or considered NOT posting to something that you would normally
> have a stock answer to... then i think you're on that edge, active in this
> circle and in this practice.
>
> m
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> On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Harold Shinsato <harold at shinsato.com>wrote:
>
>> Dear Michael M,
>>
>> The "forbidding" aspect of a space with this many listeners for me had
>> nothing to do with the "size" of people taking up the space as it did the
>> pure size of the group and the number of listeners who felt like strangers.
>> True, the power and value of the content and the contributors raised a high
>> bar, but it's certainly not because it seemed to me like anyone was
>> "hogging" the space. If anything, this is an amazingly welcoming group for
>> its size and I'm certain it's because of the Open Space principles. I could
>> also see that questions were always warmly received and answered, but I
>> still felt after I joined that I'd better have a really good question to
>> post before I dared to do so.
>>
>> It makes it a lot easier for me to post now that I've been in actual Open
>> Space events with a number of the active contributors. In some ways, the
>> OpenSpaceWorld.ning.com site also makes it easier to post - because over
>> there I can see a lot of your faces and it's easier to feel the humanity of
>> many of those posting - as well as being in smaller circle conversations.
>> Like they say in writing and speaking classes, know your audience. It just
>> takes more time with a group with 600+ listeners.
>>
>>   Harold
>>
>>
>> Michael M Pannwitz wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Michael Dobbie,
>>> hope you have a great time in Australia and run into many of the
>>> os-workers there! Are you facilitating os-events there or do os-related
>>> stuff? I remember
>>> Since I have always just simply participated in the oslist, the aspect of
>>> being invited never came to my mind. Maybe that contributes to what Harold
>>> (and many, as he states) perceives as "forbidding", fat guys like me taking
>>> up the space.
>>> The "roll call" in process did reveal to me that there are many on the
>>> list who are mostly in the "learning" mode (as in the Law: "I honor a group
>>> with my absence if I neither learn nor contribute. If I learn, I stay, If I
>>> contribute, I stay. But if neither nor, I leave.")
>>> By the way, I noticed that the email you used in your post varies from
>>> the one in your info box in the Open Space World Map...let me know if you
>>> would like to have it adjusted).
>>> Greetings from Berlin
>>> mmp
>>>
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