re honouring each other
Denise Tennen
denisetennen at comcast.net
Fri Nov 20 09:09:54 PST 2009
I took the statement "hooray for public chastisement" as being
delivered with irony.
At least I hope that was what it was.
That said, I personally have always found irony confusing.
Denise
On Nov 20, 2009, at 3:12 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
> this is just stunning. all i ever said is that i would post
> anything related to open space that anyone cared to send to me.
> and that is pretty much what i've done. at times the site was
> designed to support public posting, but there was never enough
> community interest or energy to support that.
>
> somebody called me yesterday and said, "this is why so many leaders
> won't do open space. this is exactly what they're afraid will
> happen. someone will use the openness of the space to attack
> existing leadership."
>
> ...and when that happens, if the leader responds (defend, control,
> or otherwise counters the attacker) he/she is tagged as
> dominating. his/her open invitation is called phony. and he/she
> is defeated. if he does not, the false accusations are allowed to
> stand, and he/she is defeated again.
>
> in the end, open space can not be sustained by those in positions
> of leadership -- only by the kindness of the every one else.
>
> this is critically important... attacking anyone else, but anyone
> with any sort of leadership role is particularly vulnerable, closes
> the space. that's why the rule is that everyone needs to keep
> learning and contributing!
>
> i never realized the meaning of this, but now i do recall that in
> lloyd kepferle's university of kentucky rules for ongoing open
> space story, in tales from open space, their ten rules addressed
> this specifically...
>
> Personal empowerment is constrained by the following:
>
>
> When a problem or opportunity is to be discussed, there must be
> wide notification of the meeting time and place so that anyone who
> is interested can attend.
> Proposed solutions/ideas must be broadcast widely so that they can
> be acknowledged as organizational policies, programs, or
> procedures, or, if they are contradictory to organizational rules,
> another solution can be sought.
> Proposed solution cannot be hurtful to anyone else.
>
> i've been a member of this list since it started. we've had some
> difficult moments, but really surprisngly very few of them. and i
> can't remember anything like this.
>
> since when is our practice of invitation about inviting others to
> speak badly about another person??? hooray for public
> chastisement? would that be learning or contributing??? this is
> just insane.
>
> and for what? because i'm supposedly blocking access to the
> internet??? this is nuts!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Michael Herman
> Michael Herman Associates
>
> http://www.michaelherman.com
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>
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>
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 1:43 AM, Kaliya * <identitywoman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Lets hear it for public chastisement....! Hoorah!
>
> I do wish that others of you who have had negative experiences with
> Michael and the nature of the closed "open" site that he runs would
> speak up. I understand that you won't but know that I Tree and I
> are not alone.
>
> There was some dark shadow around this in the community and it is
> now open. I do feel that Micheal was being "deaf" to what I was
> saying and spouting back open spacisims rather then addressing the
> concerns.
>
> I do think that he was/a dictator and dominating and pretending he
> was not. These are not to me personal attacks from the perspective
> of naming strongly what I and others have seen unfolding.
>
> These are harsh words to some and I see them as naming what I see
> happening.
>
> Most of you all around the world have no experience of me or him in
> real life. sigh.
>
> I hope that in a year we will have a great web presence that is
> usefully to all and more open.
>
> I love this method it is at the heart of my lively hood - I make
> the majority of my living using it. It really matters to me that as
> my work and other people's work spreads and the web becomes more
> and more important that we have good resources online that look
> professional and help us all look better to a client base that does
> and will increasingly look online to see what is legitimate/real/
> professional about this wonderful thing we call Open Space.
>
> -Kaliay
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:02 PM, alan at alanhalford.coma.u
> <alan at alanhalford.com.au> wrote:
> Kaliya*
> my feeling and experience is that if you are being direct, intense
> and holding onto truth then personal attacks are not necessary and
> if fact detract from the directness, intensity and the truth.
> blessings and thank you for the conversation
> alan
>
>
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>
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