New York City Stammtisch last night

Esther Matte ematte at excellence.ca
Tue Nov 17 06:14:08 PST 2009


FRENCH FOLLOWS ENGLISH

 

Hi all,

 

I guess Monday is not a popular night... There were only two of us at our
Open Space gathering. But we were the right people!

 

I had the wonderful surprise to meet a man who is a mediator, connected with
the Quaker community and practicing more and more group facilitation. He did
not know a lot about Open Space, so we talked about perceptions, process and
spirit, preparation work, the principles, different types of convergence.
For some reason (intuition maybe?) I had taken a couple of "Books of
proceedings " with me! So he could see the end result of an Open Space
meeting. He shared some of his experience with group conflict resolution,
which was really interesting. And we shared info on meeting rooms in and
around the NYC area. 

 

So we had good food and great conversation, in a restaurant that was a lot
quieter than the Belgium pub on Belgian National Day! 

 

Cheers!

 

Esther

 

FRENCH

Bonjour à tous!

 

Eh bien il semble que lundi ne soit pas un soir très populaire... Nous
n'étions que deux personnes, mais c'étaient les bonnes!

 

J'ai eu l'heureuse surprise de faire la connaissance d'un médiateur, qui a
des liens avec la communauté Quaker, et dont la pratique prend de plus en
plus la couleur du travail en groupe. Il connaissait peu le Forum ouvert,
alors nous avons parlé des perceptions, de la méthodologie et de son esprit,
du travail préparatoire, des principes, de divers types de convergence. Pour
une raison que j'ignore (l'intuition, peut-être?), j'avais apporté avec moi
quelques «Recueils de Forum ouvert». Il a donc pu voir le produit final
d'une réunion en Forum ouvert. Il m'a parlé de son expérience avec la
résolution de conflit en groupes, ce qui était vraiment très intéressant.
Nous avons aussi parlé de salles de réunion à NY et aux alentours.

 

Un bon repas en bonne compagnie, dans un restaurant beaucoup plus tranquille
qu'un pub Belge le jour de la Fête nationale belge! C'était une belle soirée
:-)

 

À la prochaine! 

 

 

Esther Matte

Discover - Engage - Accomplish

www.excellence.ca

New York: 212-755-0551

Montreal: 450-583-5849

 






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Hi all 

Thanks for this interesting and rich discussion. I thought I’d just share
what we are in the process of, in the Genuine Contact community – creating a
virtual home based on open source. We had the experience of losing our
online space once when “Smartgroups” disappeared, and that was no fun. 

We do invest quite a lot of funds into this. I think that one of the keys is
to make it user friendly enough to allow as many as possible to take part.
We also like it to be multifunctional so it is a real “home”. I would love
the idea to see if we could cooperate on this – we’re doing it anyway...

Best regards

Thomas Herrmann (also member on Facebook, LinkedIn, Ning and wherever...)

 

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Från: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] För christine koehler
Skickat: den 17 november 2009 10:15
Till: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Ämne: Re: Come join us at Open Space Technology World Community Ning site!!

 

I think I'd like to jump into this conversation as it resonnates with many
of my present concerns.
As an Open Space and self-organization lover, I understand the interest and
huge possibilities of open source tools and would naturally turn toward
them. That's probably why I have an OpenId for years now (since the very
beginning I think of the Open Id movement, thanks to people who are related
to this OS community), even if I don't get I am sure what it may mean.

Yet, as a non-tech person,well... that's simple : I don't know what to
chose, I can't follow all the new possibilities that emerge every 6 months
-if not quicker- , and when I do take time to find out what is best for the
time being, then I don't have the skills to handle those open tools
properly.

And for people like me, today's worls is just wonderful : I can pay for it,
if I have money, or  I can get free stuff like Ning communities, Facebook
etc.. that do solve all these technical questions for me. 
Of course, I know that in this world, everything has a cost : maybe they
give me things free but then will want to get it back for $$$ by selling my
information to corporations. Well, I guess they will. 
But my alternative is : doing nothing and not giving any of my personal
datas to big bad corporations ( that, as OST facilitator,  are my potential
clients by the way) 
or
taking this risk and use the possibilities offered by the internet.

Now, if someone like Kaliya offers help and skills, well, that's wonderful !
As wonderful as the current possibilities. Thanks to all of you who made
things happen !

No doubt for me the choice is similar : someone handle this technical stuff,
as I never will be able to do it and don't want to learn it. To a certain
extand, I'll have to trust this people.

This community is self-organized, nobody has the autority to say "let's do
this" and all will follow. What I appreciate  is that people who want that
new things happen explain what and why then want it.  I guess their passion
will make other people follow them !

Kaliya, if you explain what criteria are now important to consider when
chosing some new tools,  explain where we can find them and how to use them,
and  share  the reasons behind your choices,  I would really appreciate this
sharing of knowledge.

I have also had the tentation to create a Ning community for OS in France.
I can see that people from IT field are not very open to this. But as long
as noone helps  find a better solution and handle it, what can I do ?...

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
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thought I’d just share what we are in the process of, in the Genuine
Contact community – creating a virtual home based on open source. We had
the experience of losing our online space once when “Smartgroups”
disappeared, and that was no fun. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
font-family:Garamond'>We do invest quite a lot of funds into this. I think that
one of the keys is to make it user friendly enough to allow as many as possible
to take part. We also like it to be multifunctional so it is a real “home”.
I would love the idea to see if we could cooperate on this – we’re
doing it anyway...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=4 face=Garamond><span style='font-size:14.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I think I'd like to jump into this conversation as it resonnates with
many of my present concerns.<br>
As an Open Space and self-organization lover, I understand the interest and
huge possibilities of open source tools and would naturally turn toward them.
That's probably why I have an OpenId for years now (since the very beginning I
think of the Open Id movement, thanks to people who are related to this OS
community), even if I don't get I am sure what it may mean.<br>
<br>
Yet, as a non-tech person,well... that's simple : I don't know what to chose, I
can't follow all the new possibilities that emerge every 6 months -if not
quicker- , and when I do take time to find out what is best for the time being,
then I don't have the skills to handle those open tools properly.<br>
<br>
And for people like me, today's worls is just wonderful : I can pay for it, if
I have money, or  I can get free stuff like Ning communities, Facebook
etc.. that do solve all these technical questions for me. <br>
Of course, I know that in this world, everything has a cost : maybe they give
me things free but then will want to get it back for $$$ by selling my
information to corporations. Well, I guess they will. <br>
But my alternative is : doing nothing and not giving any of my personal datas
to big bad corporations ( that, as OST facilitator,  are my potential
clients by the way) <br>
or<br>
taking this risk and use the possibilities offered by the internet.<br>
<br>
Now, if someone like Kaliya offers help and skills, well, that's wonderful ! As
wonderful as the current possibilities. Thanks to all of you who made things
happen !<br>
<br>
No doubt for me the choice is similar : someone handle this technical stuff, as
I never will be able to do it and don't want to learn it. To a certain extand,
I'll have to trust this people.<br>
<br>
This community is self-organized, nobody has the autority to say "let's do
this" and all will follow. What I appreciate  is that people who want
that new things happen explain what and why then want it.  I guess their
passion will make other people follow them !<br>
<br>
Kaliya, if you explain what criteria are now important to consider when chosing
some new tools,  explain where we can find them and how to use them,
and  share  the reasons behind your choices,  I would really
appreciate this sharing of knowledge.<br>
<br>
I have also had the tentation to create a Ning community for OS in <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">France</st1:place></st1:country-region>.  I
can see that people from IT field are not very open to this. But as long as
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