social networking, twitter, hashtags

Mon Mar 30 21:53:29 PDT 2009

Hi Chris and Michael,

more on hashtags. Yes, the hastag is part of the 140 characters. I did a
little search and I found that the hashtag #openspace is indeed mainly used
for Open Space Technology. So, could we use this? There might be a bit of
white noise but not too much.

By the way, if you want to follow a hashtag regularly, you can either
subscribe to a RSS feed of a Twitter search (via
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=%23openspace), or, what I recommend is to
install Tweetdeck (http://www.tweetdeck.com/beta/), which has nice
functionalities for following specific searches. I also use it to keep track
of those people I really want to read (while the rest of the 400+ people I
follow i just take as a stream in which I dip from time to time).

More discussions about the hashtag are welcome.

Holger

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Yup...the tag counts, but Twwetdeck, the software I use to twitter has
several handy ways for shortening posts and links, so it's still usually
plenty of characters for a tweet.

c

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Michael Herman
<michael at michaelherman.com>wrote:

> thanks, chris.  that helps.  if even a small group of tweeters start doing
> this, it seems that it starts to establish or claim the tag for our use and
> also create some content for pulling into the website.  i'm glad to do
> what's needed to have that content show up, and it seems best to wait until
> you tweeters tell me that there's a enough volume there to make it worth
> doing.
>
> curious though, do the #openspacetech characters count in the 140 (or
> whatever) limit per tweet?
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> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Michael:
>>
>> So basically in twitter, the tagging convention is to add a hash mark in
>> front of a word.  So if you make a tweet talking about Barack Obama and you
>> tag it with #obama, it will show up in a query on that tag (here for
>> instance
>> http://twitter.com/search?q=%23obama&source=navbar&category=search)  That
>> query page also produces an RSS feed, same as the other tags we use at
>> flickr and around the blogosphere (openspacetech).  Wordpress has plug ins
>> that will publish twitter feeds on a blog sidebar so if we ever wanted to
>> show Open Space practitioner tweets on the osw sidebar (tagged with
>> #openspacetech for example) it shouldn't be too hard.
>>
>> That's the theory anyway.  Question is really whether enough people are
>> using it or see utility in using it, and I guess that remains to be seen.
>> Perhaps those of us that do tweet OST related stuff could start using the
>> #openspacetech tag (#OST is already in use) and we could see what happens.
>> So I'll start tagging tweets that way.  Here's the first tweet on the new
>> query page: http://search.twitter.com/search?q=openspacetech
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Herman <
>> michael at michaelherman.com> wrote:
>>
>>> maybe it's listserve randomness, or pilot error here... but i didn't see
>>> anything about tweetfeed and osw?  and being a non-tweeter, i don't
>>> understand even now that it's mentioned.  explain what it is and how it
>>> would work, raffi?  and what is required to set it up?  thanks,m
>>>
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>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Raffi Aftandelian <raffi at bk.ru> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks all for this rich and passionate conversation!
>>>>
>>>> To those who use tweet:
>>>>
>>>> what do you find to be the benefits of using Twitter? What's different?
>>>> How
>>>> has it enriched your life, your work?
>>>>
>>>> I looked on your blog, Holger, a little. If you think there are any
>>>> posts
>>>> that communicate the value and benefits of Twitter, perhaps you could
>>>> share
>>>> them?
>>>>
>>>> I've been on Facebook for a couple of months and, well, it's nice...
>>>>
>>>> I like the way you framed the value of such applications michael
>>>> (herman).
>>>>
>>>> Thus far, I'd say, that my experience has been that for my tribe, OSlist
>>>> has
>>>> been the most valuable tool. Indeed, I've  made some connections just
>>>> from
>>>> the list that have flowered into full-blown real life friendships.
>>>>
>>>> Also, like Chris's idea of adding an ost tweetfeed to OSW...
>>>>
>>>> warmly,
>>>> raffi
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Yup...the tag counts, but Twwetdeck, the software I use to twitter has several handy ways for shortening posts and links, so it's still usually plenty of characters for a tweet.<br><br>c<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Michael Herman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael at michaelherman.com">michael at michaelherman.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
thanks, chris.  that helps.  if even a small group of tweeters start doing this, it seems that it starts to establish or claim the tag for our use and also create some content for pulling into the website.  i'm glad to do what's needed to have that content show up, and it seems best to wait until you tweeters tell me that there's a enough volume there to make it worth doing.  <br>

<br>curious though, do the #openspacetech characters count in the 140 (or whatever) limit per tweet?<div class="im"><br><br>m<br><br><br clear="all"> <br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br><br><a href="http://www.michaelherman.com" target="_blank">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><br>

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<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class="h5">On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Chris Corrigan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.corrigan at gmail.com" target="_blank">chris.corrigan at gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div class="h5">
Michael:<br><br>So basically in twitter, the tagging convention is to add a hash mark in front of a word.  So if you make a tweet talking about Barack Obama and you tag it with #obama, it will show up in a query on that tag (here for instance <a href="http://twitter.com/search?q=%23obama&source=navbar&category=search" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/search?q=%23obama&source=navbar&category=search</a>)  That query page also produces an RSS feed, same as the other tags we use at flickr and around the blogosphere (openspacetech).  Wordpress has plug ins that will publish twitter feeds on a blog sidebar so if we ever wanted to show Open Space practitioner tweets on the osw sidebar (tagged with #openspacetech for example) it shouldn't be too hard.  <br>

<br>That's the theory anyway.  Question is really whether enough people are using it or see utility in using it, and I guess that remains to be seen.  Perhaps those of us that do tweet OST related stuff could start using the #openspacetech tag (#OST is already in use) and we could see what happens.  So I'll start tagging tweets that way.  Here's the first tweet on the new query page: <a href="http://search.twitter.com/search?q=openspacetech" target="_blank">http://search.twitter.com/search?q=openspacetech</a><br>

<br>Chris<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Herman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michael at michaelherman.com" target="_blank">michael at michaelherman.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>

</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div></div><div>
maybe it's listserve randomness, or pilot error here... but i didn't see anything about tweetfeed and osw?  and being a non-tweeter, i don't understand even now that it's mentioned.  explain what it is and how it would work, raffi?  and what is required to set it up?  thanks,m <br>

<br><br clear="all"> <br>--<br><br>Michael Herman<br>Michael Herman Associates<br><br><a href="http://www.michaelherman.com" target="_blank">http://www.michaelherman.com</a><br><a href="http://www.ronanparktrail.com" target="_blank">http://www.ronanparktrail.com</a><br>

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Raffi Aftandelian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raffi at bk.ru" target="_blank">raffi at bk.ru</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

Thanks all for this rich and passionate conversation!<br>
<br>
To those who use tweet:<br>
<br>
what do you find to be the benefits of using Twitter? What's different? How<br>
has it enriched your life, your work?<br>
<br>
I looked on your blog, Holger, a little. If you think there are any posts<br>
that communicate the value and benefits of Twitter, perhaps you could share<br>
them?<br>
<br>
I've been on Facebook for a couple of months and, well, it's nice...<br>
<br>
I like the way you framed the value of such applications michael (herman).<br>
<br>
Thus far, I'd say, that my experience has been that for my tribe, OSlist has<br>
been the most valuable tool. Indeed, I've  made some connections just from<br>
the list that have flowered into full-blown real life friendships.<br>
<br>
Also, like Chris's idea of adding an ost tweetfeed to OSW...<br>
<br>
warmly,<br>
raffi<br>
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I love the social tools because they allow me to connect with and get to
know people in far flung areas who are closer to me in thought and spirit
than those who are nearby.  For me, twitter, facebook, skype and blogging
are a means to an end, and that end os sharing open face to face
conversations with folks that are in disperate places, but with whom I learn
a lot.

And something to think about intergenerationally is that there are teenagers
now who have lived their entire lives in a world with blogging, skype, and
facebook.  Think about that for a minute.  These people don't consider these
technologies to be old at all.  They consider them the default setting.

In a time when intergenerational conversation is becoming more important
(how do we talk to the people with whom we have saddled with a trillion
dollar debt, to explain to them to follies of our excess?) knowing a little
about how these technologies enable self-organizing behaviour among digital
natives is very important.  And learning to use them I think is as important
as employing other powerful social technologies like, say, Open Space.

So I don't begrudge the unwillingness to particiapte in the collective
monkey mind (thanks Karen!) or the pining for real contact, but I do
encourage people to learn about and play with these tools, just like we have
with OST and see what happens...

Chris

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I love the social tools because they allow me to connect with and get to know people in far flung areas who are closer to me in thought and spirit than those who are nearby.  For me, twitter, facebook, skype and blogging are a means to an end, and that end os sharing open face to face conversations with folks that are in disperate places, but with whom I learn a lot. <br>
<br>And something to think about intergenerationally is that there are teenagers now who have lived their entire lives in a world with blogging, skype, and facebook.  Think about that for a minute.  These people don't consider these technologies to be old at all.  They consider them the default setting.  <br>
<br>In a time when intergenerational conversation is becoming more important (how do we talk to the people with whom we have saddled with a trillion dollar debt, to explain to them to follies of our excess?) knowing a little about how these technologies enable self-organizing behaviour among digital natives is very important.  And learning to use them I think is as important as employing other powerful social technologies like, say, Open Space.<br>
<br>So I don't begrudge the unwillingness to particiapte in the collective monkey mind (thanks Karen!) or the pining for real contact, but I do encourage people to learn about and play with these tools, just like we have with OST and see what happens...<br>
<br>Chris<br><br>PS... micheal...dynamite cafe design!<br><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>CHRIS CORRIGAN<br>Facilitation - Training - Process Design<br>Open Space Technology<br><br>Weblog: <a href="http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot">http://www.chriscorrigan.com/parkinglot</a><br>
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