helping the whole

Wendy Farmer-O'Neil wendy at xe.net
Mon Jun 15 07:41:29 PDT 2009


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> You sound pretty close to it to me, Doug.  The nesting Alexander  
> speaks of may be something like the concept of holons in Integral.   
> Where each entity is both a whole unto itself and an intrinsic part  
> of a yet larger whole--all nested in a great holarchy of being.  The  
> boundaries of each dependent on what perspective is engaged at any  
> particular moment.  Pretty fluid, paradoxical stuff as you've  
> intuited.
>
> Circles of belonging.  To me, mean those nested ecologies of  
> relationship we cultivate that provide us with our sense of  
> belonging, of community, of personal meaning and affirmation.  Some  
> folks sadly don't seem to experience this at all anywhere in their  
> lives.  I believe that circles of belonging are vital to our health  
> and our future.  Our family can be one, our friends can be one, our  
> neighbourhood, church, or workplace could be too.  This is where the  
> skill comes in.  So many of us need to learn how to be intimate  
> together, so that we can reflect our worth to each other in ways  
> that truly liberate and validate our experience of our humanness.
>
> much love,
> Wendy
>
> On 14-Jun-09, at 4:05 PM, douglas germann wrote:
>
>> Larry--
>>
>> I suspect that is what Alexander is saying. In effect, the individual
>> center and the whole give each other life. He speaks of nesting a  
>> couple
>> of places, but I have yet to figure out exactly what he means by  
>> it. It
>> is almost like the light in the projector and the image on the screen
>> appear at the same time. (There are no really good metaphors.) But in
>> this case, the image on the screen helps give life/light to the
>> projector!
>>
>> Have not studied the integral perspective, so I am not sure I am
>> catching your meaning, or responding appropriately, Larry.
>>
>> 			:- Doug.
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>> On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 10:07 -0400, Larry Peterson wrote:
>>> Yes and!  An integral perspective suggests that the individual, the
>>> group, the behaviour and the interrelationships are all  
>>> constituent of
>>> who we are and the reality that we are part of in every moment.
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>>> Larry
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>>> Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
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>>> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>>> Subject: [OSLIST] Fwd: [OSLIST] helping the whole
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>>>       Circles of Belonging, Doug.
>>>
>>>       Don't we feel most alive when we know we are truly
>>>       significant?  That our existence matters essentially to
>>>       another?  We can only see that truly reflected in the eyes of
>>>       our community.
>>>
>>>
>>>       Explains modern existential angst.  Without true community and
>>>       a way to find our place in it--we find life deadened, numbing,
>>>       meaningless.  Same is mirrored in organizations.  We have
>>>       largely managed (all puns intended) to engineer an inhuman
>>>       context for ourselves.
>>>
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>>>       Re-membering and re-claiming the skills and patterns of
>>>       connecting to the whole is a vital process for our future.  We
>>>       will know we have arrived when, as Harrison has recently
>>>       pointed out, OST is just one of the ways we do things.  I
>>>       believe the deep inner resonance for this sense of one's place
>>>       in the whole is what many people experience and enjoy about
>>>       open space.
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>>>
>>>       thanks for all these great quotes.  I've wanted to read his
>>>       work for so long.  This is a real treat.
>>>
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>>>       hugs,
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>>>
>>>       Wendy
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>>>       On 11-Jun-09, at 8:04 PM, douglas germann wrote:
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>>>       Hi--
>>>
>>>       Another evocative piece from Christopher Alexander:
>>>
>>>       It is their presence in the whole, and the fact that they are
>>>       helping the life of the whole, which gives them their
>>>       individual life....Italics in original. Christopher Alexander,
>>>       The Nature of Order: An Essay on the Art of Building and The
>>>       Nature of the Universe, Book One: The Phenomenon of Life, p
>>>       431
>>>
>>>       What I am seeing here as an inside-out truth, is that in a
>>>       group we do not lend the group our individual life, it goes
>>>       somewhat the other way round about. What gives us our
>>>       individual existence and life is our presence in the group,
>>>       our helping of the group; in turn the others helping the group
>>>       give us life. We intensify each other.
>>>
>>>       Can this be true?
>>>
>>>       :- Doug.
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> Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
> CEO Prospera Consulting
> wendy at xe.net
> 1-800-713-2351
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> The moment of change is the only poem. -- Adrienne Rich
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Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
CEO Prospera Consulting
wendy at xe.net
1-800-713-2351

The moment of change is the only poem. -- Adrienne Rich

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