New Members and Country in the Open Space World Map
Michael M Pannwitz
mmpanne at boscop.org
Sun Jul 5 16:30:55 PDT 2009
Dear colleagues,
Ayalew Zegeye Asfaw from Ethiopia included himself in the Open Space
World Map today. Ethiopia is the 72nd country with a resident Open Space
worker and the 141st country in which Open Space Technology is being
used. Have a look, here is the direct link to Ethiopia
> http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/moreinfo/contactinfo.php?c_id=62
At the same time the Open Space Worldscape is expanding, it is the data
base for recording Open Space events we have facilitated. Doug
O'Loughlin from Singapore just added two events, raising the total of
events to 533 placed there by 47 colleagues worldwide. Here is the link
> http://www.openspaceworldscape.org/
The "map" and the "scape" show the spread and the variety of fields OST
is being used in around planet earth.
You are invited to include yourself and the events you have facilitated
or project to facilitate...thereby adding to the picture and showing our
collective treasure of experience and application.
Greetings from Berlin where I am eagerly awaiting tonites Stammtisch at
our local greek food restaurant in Berlin, open air this time of year...
mmp
--
Michael M Pannwitz, boscop eg
Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany
++49-30-772 8000
mmpanne at boscop.org
www.boscop.org
Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 446 resident Open
Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 141 countries worldwide
Have a look:
www.openspaceworldmap.org
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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:21:46 +0200
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From: Catherine Pfaehler <c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch>
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Subject: AW: How can we foster sustainable outcomes?
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What great thoughts and feelings. Thank you all.
Speaking of sustainable outcomes, it just occurred to me that we did an =
OS
event at our own company, www.wohngeist.ch <http://www.wohngeist.ch/> , =
in
2007 (Pia and Peter Glanzmann were our facilitators then), for a day,
exploring the future of WohnGeist, 45 people representing our whole =
system
(from clients to suppliers, of course with all our employees). Are we
important? If yes, where are we going, where will we be in 2020? The =
most
important result was that we started looking for a bigger place to work =
in
(instead of 3 small workshops with lots of coordination required). In =
the
end of 2008, we came across an old window factory, a 13 minutes train =
ride
from where we are now, which we could buy, because we had the courage of
offering our 1500 clients and relatives a sustainable investment (shares =
and
loans). We got a million Swiss Francs!!! So now we are in the middle of
planning all the projects needed to move. We held another OS event (this
time facilitated by myself) of half a day on may 5th 2009 in the new
location, with all our employees, some share holders and friends, 30 =
people,
to get started with the necessary work. One result was that all our
employees started to get the feeling of the new place and really got
involved. However, they complained that half a day was not enough, there
were too many interesting topics at the same time! Another result is =
that
our employees are thinking for the whole more and more, which I find
fantastic. My husband, the founder of our company, is starting to trust =
the
process more and more, and finally begins to let go of some of his =
former
tasks, which others can do just as well as himself.
Mind you, all this happened without our planning anything to foster
sustainable outcomes. So it might well be time to withdraw my original
question=85 :-)
Heartfully, C.
=20
Catherine Pfaehler Senn
lic.oec.HSG
Open Space Begleitung
St. Alban-Vorstadt 15
CH - 4052 Basel
+41-(0)76 - 488 15 46
c.pfaehler at open-space-begleitung.ch
www.open-space-begleitung.ch <http://www.open-space-begleitung.ch/>=20
=20
=20
_____ =20
Von: Suzanne Daigle [mailto:sdaigle4 at gmail.com]=20
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Juli 2009 12:55
Betreff: Re: AW: How can we foster sustainable outcomes?
=20
(warning very long...)
As I follow and reflect on the discussion about visual protocol and =
offering
visual results from an Open Space experience and then think about how we
connect benefits of self-organizing to a client=92s desired outcome, so =
many
questions surface for me. =20
How can we honor a client=92s desired outcome which assumes =
predictability and
control when Open Space invites something quite different? With my =
limited
experience with Open Space (I=92ve only done two as an unpaid volunteer) =
and a
long corporate career, my gut tells me that the Open Space way of =
lighting
up passion and responsibility in individuals and collectives will lead =
to
results that far exceed what a client could initially expect. I know
because all my life, I=92ve seen how much gets accomplished when people =
are
passionate about what they do. Open Space is all about that. Many =
clients
want a clear-cut route to improved results, better service, higher =
quality,
etc. This we cannot promise. Rather, OS is a journey, a new way of =
doing
which means undoing what didn=92t work, and seeing what we don=92t=92 =
want to see
to create what we can=92t know.=20
How can we effectively convey to a client the importance of gut feel and
intuition, inviting them to an experience that they must =93feel=94 and =
not just
=93think=94? The dilemma is that you cannot know Open Space until =
you=92ve done
Open Space and not just once. How can you describe what get=92s ignited =
in
people when they get to choose (Law of Two Feet), feel Equal and =
live/work
according to principles (4 OS principles) =96 something that makes so =
much
sense but that is so different than what our current hierarchical world
dictates? =20
Once people are activated in an Open Space way, I think it ignites a =
longing
that is in each of us and the difficulty is that you just don=92t want =
to go
back to the old way. How then do we blend traditional and =
self-organizing?=20
I struggle with these questions and as I embark on this wild ride of OS, =
I
imagine myself building trust at the beginning of my relationship with
clients talking about the issues that they care about and that they =
know:
their business. Hopefully by connecting and being honest, I will =
establish
enough trust so that they will want to try this new way, knowing deep =
inside
them that the old ways aren=92t working any more. It=92s about finding =
the
courage of our voice and actions, doing this together in a supportive =
way.
Knowing that we cannot immediately and fully internalize all that OS
represents, I then struggle with how we can optimize and capture what =
Open
Space does inside you. What I did with incredible help from Michele =
Young,
who assisted me on the two Open Spaces that I facilitated, was create a
visual show that not only tried to capture in its authenticity what =
happened
there but also tried to convey the spirit of the invitation and =
preparation
and the OS concepts and themes of this new way of being so that people
through pictures can remember what it =93felt=94 like to be part of =
this. I
questioned myself in doing so wondering if this went against the =
principles
of self-organizing, equality, and the self-effacing role of a =
facilitator.
Then I told myself: heck=85I=92m doing it anyway as a gift.=20
IONS Conference Open Space in Tucson
http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/daigle_Suzanne-208049-ions-away-=
pre
sentation-open-space-spiritual-inspirational-ppt-powerpoint/ =20
=20
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> =
wrote:
Thanks Michael -- I think :-)
=20
Harrison
=20
Harrison Owen
189 Beaucaire Ave
Camden, ME 04843
207-763-3261 (Summer)
301-365-2093 (Winter)
Website www.openspaceworld.com=20
Personal Website www.ho-image.com=20
OSLIST To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
=20
=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of =
Michael M
Pannwitz
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:46 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: AW: How can we foster sustainable outcomes?
=20
Liebe Catherine,
ich hab zu Deiner Frage schon mal in dieser Liste auf Englisch=20
geschrieben, aber hier kommts nochmal auf deutsch (ich f=E4nds super,=20
wenns auch noch jemand, der es auf franz=F6sisch und italienisch und=20
Latein probiert, aufschreibt, damit es sich in der ganzen Schweiz=20
verbreiten kann):
=20
Mich interessieren Nachhaltigkeit oder nachhaltige Ergebnisse in meiner=20
Rolle als Begleiter =FCberhaupt nicht.
=20
Wenn der Veranstalter allerdings sowas will, nehm ich ihm ja auch in=20
keiner Weise krumm, dann sage ich ihm, was er tun kann, damit die=20
Wahrscheinlichkeit von nachhaltiger Umsetzung von Verabredungen zu=20
Vorhaben steigt und welcher Aufwand von Veranstaltern dazu mit ziemlich=20
gutem Erfolg daf=FCr betrieben worden ist.
=20
Gleich zu Anfang m=F6chte ich Dir aber verraten, dass die Form der=20
Dokumentation dabei eine eher untergeordnete Rolle spielt (hierzu hatte=20
ich auch auf die Berichte von John Engle verwiesen aus Situationen, in=20
denen es kein Papier, keine Stifte gibt und in denen viele der=20
Teilnehmenden auch nicht lesen oder schreiben k=F6nnen).
=20
Also hier meine Hinweise an den Veranstalter:
=20
1. Ein Vorbereitungstreffen mit einer Gruppe, die in etwa die erwartete=20
Teilnehmerschaft abbildet, also das ganze System, wie es sich zu diesem=20
Zeitpunkt f=FCr ihn darstellt, zusammenbringen. Sie / er geh=F6rt dazu.=20
Optimal ist, wenn diese Gruppe authorisiert ist mit ihr / ihm gemeinsame =
alles zu entscheiden: Thema, Einzuladende, Einladung, Organisation, etc.
Ich biete ihm die Begleitung des in der Regel 3,5st=FCndigen Treffens =
an.
2. Eine Einladung, in der nicht nur zu der Veranstaltung eingeladen=20
wird, sondern auch schon zu dem 8 bis 12 Wochen sp=E4ter stattfindendem=20
"N=E4chsten Treffen", bei dem die Vorhaben, die in der Handlungsplanung =
am=20
Ende der OST Veranstaltung verabredet wurden, angeschaut werden...wo=20
sind wir jetzt?, gibts neue Vorhaben?, wie gehts weiter?...plus =
m=F6gliche=20
weitere "N=E4chste Treffen".
3. Ein Verfahren, in dem so gut wie es irgendwie m=F6glich ist=20
sichergestellt wird, dass all diejenigen auf jeweils spezifische Art und =
Weise vom Veranstalter und Mitgliedern der Vorbereitungsgruppe=20
eingeladen werden, die daf=FCr notwendig erscheinen, die Erwartungen =
unter=20
der gew=E4hlten =DCberschrift auch tats=E4chlich einzul=F6sen.
4. Eine dreit=E4gige Veranstaltung, also 16 Stunden auf drei Tage =
verteilt=20
(Nachmittag, ganzer Tag, Vor-oder Nachmittag), zweimal schlafen, mit=20
einer Handlungsplanung am letzten Tag.
5. Eine Dokuwand mit allen aus den Anliegengruppen entstehenden=20
Ergebnissen, die nochmal von allen gegen Ende des 2. Tages gemeinsame=20
zur Kenntnis genommen wird mit der M=F6glichkeit, dann noch zu jedem=20
Ergebnisblatt auf einem Erg=E4nzungsblatt weitere Fragen, Hinweise, etc. =
festzuhalten.(Diese gesammelten Werke k=F6nnen entweder als Papierdoku =
in=20
der Nacht vom 2. auf den 3. Tag hergestellt werden und den Teilnehmenden =
am dritten Tag morgens gegeben werden oder als pdf/eDoku nach der=20
Veranstaltung auf einer www erscheinen, zu der die Teilnehmenden Zugang=20
haben).
6. Eine Kontaktliste der Teilnehmenden mit von den TeilnehmerInnen=20
=FCberpr=FCften Kontaktdaten f=FCr alle Teilnehmenden, die das wollen, =
am Ende=20
der Veranstaltung an alle Teilnehmenden f=FCr die Kommunikation nach der =
Tagung verteilen (die Kontaktliste wurde im Laufe der Veranstaltung von=20
den Teilnehmenden selber erstellt).
7. Kopien der Verabredungen, die in der Handlungsplanung zu den Vorhaben =
entstanden sind, an alle Teilnehmenden innert einer Woche nach der=20
Veranstaltung verschicken samt Einladung zu dem bereits bekannten=20
"N=E4chsten Treffen".
8. Deutliche Hinweise darauf, das alles von den Teilnehmenden so weit es =
irgend m=F6glich ist, selbst getan wird (ihre Anliegengruppen =
selbst=E4ndig=20
organisieren,Dokubl=E4tter anfertigen,Kontaktliste erstellen...)
=20
F=FCr Veranstalter, die Nachhaltigkeit wollen, ist das alles sehr =
einfach,=20
einleuchtend, notwendig.
F=FCr Veranstalter, die das nicht (wirklich) wollen, ist das alles eine=20
eher un=FCberwindbare Barriere.
=20
So, das ist das, was ich mache und ich m=F6chte nicht, dass es als =
Rezept=20
verstanden wird. Wenn jemand es so ausprobiert, w=FCrde es mich=20
=FCberraschen, wenn es nicht klappt....
=20
Herzlich Gr=FC=DFe aus Berlin
mmp
=20
Catherine Pfaehler wrote:
> Dear Reinhard
>=20
> As you describe it in depth, it becomes more understandable and really
> sounds wonderful.=20
>=20
> What about writing a book on methods and hints for visual protocols? I
> especially like your idea of the participants doing the visual =
protocols
> themselves. Some might even discover they have a talent they weren't =
aware
> of!
>=20
> And my original question remains open - what do others do to foster
> sustainable outcomes?
>=20
> Heartfully, C.
> =20
> Catherine Pfaehler Senn
> lic.oec.HSG
> Open Space Begleitung
> St. Alban-Vorstadt 15
> CH - 4052 Basel
> +41-(0)76 - 488 15 46
> c.pfaehler at open-space-begleitung.ch
> www.open-space-begleitung.ch
> =20
>=20
>=20
> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Reinhard Kuchenmueller [mailto:mail at visuelle-protokolle.de]=20
> Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Juni 2009 07:01
> An: c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch; OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Betreff: AW: How can we foster sustainable outcomes?
>=20
> Dear Catherine,
>=20
> it seems t get a dialogue between you and me - and Harrison defending =
his
> turf - while all the others are busy discussing Paris Stammtisch and =
some
> problems of dogma and exegesis in the holy principles.
>=20
> My focus lies on the os meeting. My heart belongs to the =
paricipating
> people, my head to the client behind everything. In a meeting of lets =
say
> 200 participants everybody can choose between lets say ten group =
themes in
> every time slot. If it goes for two days, with five time slots, that =
makes
> 50 groups of which the everage participant chooses five groups. All =
the
> other groups, their themes, their surprising developments, their
exitement,
> their outcome, does not exist for him. All the groups make some =
protocols,
> but in the worst possible way, in handwriting, and some typed short
version.
> Our everage participant does rarely read the outcomes of other groups. =
The
> facilitator made himself invisible and is of little help. So his =
horizon
is
> built from 10 percent of the whole meeting. He goes home with a =
beautiful
> experience of team building and self organisation, and some memeory =
of 10
> percent of the meeting. The client goes home with some written =
excerpts,
and
> if he is lucky he will be confronted with some ideas afterwards, of =
people
> who want to ontinue their threads. Who is helping him to build the =
bridge
> between his basic theme, his exspectations, and the outcome? The
> facilitator? By which means?
>=20
> I would wish all the os people could take part just once in a =
visualized
os
> event. Some witnesses, fair minded, impartial, are moving from group =
to
> group, gathering process, results and atmosphere on small picture =
cards.
> Nobody is noticing them. They put these picture cards into a big =
picture
> wall, all the time, so that everybody who passes can get all the
procedures
> in some seconds time. And in the evening all the picture cards,
digitalized
> in the meantime, are shown to the plenum as a slide show with some =
music,
> for about 10 minutes The participants not only increase the memory of
their
> own group from 20 to 60 percent, as scientists can proove, but at the =
same
> time they get an overview about the whole big theme in all its =
complexity.
> As if they can suddenly see the whole tree, of which they were busy
handling
> some branches so far. I experienced a deep satisfaction among the
> participants every time we did that work. Of course all that is =
against
the
> old os dogma, but that does not bother the people at all.
>=20
> And the client? He gets a detailled insight into all the groups. The
little
> images can be used in many ways to foster sustainable outcomes, as you
say.
> They can be clustered, regrouped, with atonishing results, showing =
what
> people really said and mean.They can be used as material to work with =
in
> smaller groups who continue with some items, they can be put into the
> intranet, printed as leaflets, little books, calendars, posters, hang =
in
the
> corridors ... As means to take the results really seriously.
>=20
> AND NOW THE BIG QUESTION: is that worth the extra costs of extra =
people,
who
> visualize the event? Some clients say yes, it is. It makes the =
difference
> between a beautiful experience of self orgsnization and the welding of =
a
> tool for the organization.
>=20
> I myself would not propose to visualize every os meeting by external
> visualizers. I would like very much to experiment with internal
> visualization. We developed different ways of visualizing by
participants.
> Once we made 800 union people in vienna draw in little groups, 72 =
images,
> with an amazing result.
>=20
> I can imagine, that in every os group two or three people start to =
doodle,
> to draw what they experience, on little cards. A bit like world cafe =
(I
> propose to the world cafe people to use little cards as well). And =
then
like
> said before, the cards can be hung into the picture wall, group by =
geoup,
> and shown in the evening as slide show. I would very much like to =
develop
> this method and to make it available to the whole os community.
>=20
>=20
> mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen
> best regards
>=20
> Reinhard Kuchenm=FCller
>=20
> VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE
>=20
> tel. +39-0566 88929
> www.visuelle-protokolle.de
> ________________________________________
> Von: Catherine Pfaehler [c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2009 17:15
> An: Reinhard Kuchenmueller
> Cc: 'OSLIST'
> Betreff: How can we foster sustainable outcomes?
>=20
> Dear Reinhard
>=20
> You have a very interesting point there. I have often wondered how the
> sustainable implementation of visible results can be fostered "better" =
by
> me, as in the post-OS-meeting, I often find my clients to focus on
different
> things than what I would have expected.
>=20
> Then, again, on the other side, I am well aware that a most important =
side
> result of an OS event is always teambuilding, communication and a =
stronger
> commitment to their organisation by many participants. And if I =
succeed in
> allowing the client to really be responsible for what happens with the
> results, then I need to let go after having asked the evaluation =
questions
> and some others like "Does anything need a vessel for coordination =
now?"
and
> "What has been developing since the OS event?".
>=20
> Other opinions??
>=20
> Heartfully, C.
>=20
> Catherine Pfaehler Senn
> lic.oec.HSG
> Open Space Begleitung
> St. Alban-Vorstadt 15
> CH - 4052 Basel
> +41-(0)76 - 488 15 46
> c.pfaehler at open-space-begleitung.ch
> www.open-space-begleitung.ch
>=20
>=20
>=20
> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Reinhard Kuchenmueller [mailto:mail at visuelle-protokolle.de]
> Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2009 19:12
> Betreff: AW: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?
>=20
> my two cents:
>=20
> a principle is defined as a law superordinated to every other law.
> Condition: A certain effect can always be retraced to the same
constellation
> of facts. (wikipedia).
>=20
> In this sense Harrison's principles are definitively no principles at =
all.
> But he was really clever: two martinis and four mundane sentences - =
and
the
> whole world is repeating them like a mantra. Mantras, as the east =
knows
> since thousands of years, don't have to have a meaning, the essence =
lies
> behind them. It only gets painful, if you start to worship the mantras
> instead of the essence.
>=20
> Why is open space so effective? Certainly not because of the mantras. =
As I
> see it, we have to dig deeper:
>=20
> I could think of principles like:
>=20
> People are basically interested - to engage themselves
> - to take responsibility
> - to interlink themselves
>=20
> That happens as soon as one stops to treat people like obstinate =
mules.
>=20
> And there exist conditions, which foster that, which support this so
called
> self organisation.
>=20
> Certainly open space technology, as it is practised worldwide, is an
> excellent condition for self organisation.
>=20
> And your 'foundations' define it well.
>=20
> Rather often a client spends money for an open space event, and for =
the
> facilitator who proposes open space as a tool for the clients' =
purposes.
> This aspect seems to be underestimated in the debate.
>=20
> In my view the facilitator is responsible to link the proposed and =
choosen
> form of the event, in our case open space, with the system and the =
purpose
> of the client. What the client pays for is not the self organisation =
of
his
> people, that is only a beautiful side effect, and a bridge to engage
people
> in the affairs of the client - and more often simultaneously in their =
own
> working conditions.
>=20
> I cannot understand the disinterest of many open space facilitators
towards
> the outcome and its linkage with the system of the client.
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> That, in my eyes, is also the reason for the disinterest towards =
optimal
> forms of recording the outcome - and as a visual facilitator I of =
course
> propagate a visual form of protocol.
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> The discussions in the os list are mainly conducted with the back to =
the
> clients, and that is a pity.
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> ________________________________________
> Von: OSLIST [OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] im Auftrag von Artur =
Silva
> [arturfsilva at YAHOO.COM]
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Juni 2009 18:25
> An: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Betreff: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?
>=20
> Larry:
>=20
> I am sorry but only today I had the time to answer you.
>=20
> We certainly need foundations or principles to Open Space.
>=20
> But I prefer the word "foundations" instead of "principles" because, =
due
to
> the man of the hat, this word is connected forever (only) with "the 4
> principles". And I think that that there are other principles
(foundations)
> as important as, or even more important than, the 4 so called =
principles.
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> Indeed I think (sorry Harrison) that the expression "The 4 principles" =
was
> badly chosen.
>=20
> Because it they are "what always happens" they are not principles at =
all.
> And because we think that we must state the principles in the =
beginning of
> every session (I myself to that the majority o the times - but not
always")
> and I am more and more convinced that they are useless. You can state =
them
> or nor, and the same things will occur. They are probably "one less =
thing
to
> do/state".
>=20
> But there are other principles or foundations that are essential, in =
the
> sense that if they are not present different things will happen.
>=20
> In the discussion I opened in our wiki some years ago I proposed the
> following:
>=20
> 3. I would suggest, as HO wrote in the old User=92s Guide, that OST =
begins
> with:
>=20
> * A THEME that is compelling enough, but also general and open =
enough
to
> let people dream about and
> * A GROUP OF COMMITED PEOPLE (reason for the presences to be almost
> always voluntary)
> * Enough DIVERSITY in the group
> 4. To those foundations one can add others that are generally accepted =
by
> all practitioners:
>=20
> * The CIRCLE (even if, in some cases, some argue that a "virtual
circle"
> will do)
> * The Bulletin Board
> * The Market Place
> * The "law of two feet" (one of the most, if not the most important
> feature, from where butterflies and bumblebees "germinate" and many
> conflicts "evaporate")
> * The "four principles" (as I have promised ;-)
>=20
> (http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST)
>=20
> If I were to rewrite this today, I would surely suppress the last =
line.
But
> all the other "foundations" (including the law of two feet) are =
essential.
> If you suppress one of them you will have a meeting; but not, IMHO, an =
OST
> meeting. But we may not talk at all about the "4 principles" and
everything
> will happen as usual.
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> Best regrsds to all
>=20
> Artur
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> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Larry Peterson <larry at spiritedorg.com> wrote:
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> From: Larry Peterson <larry at spiritedorg.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 5:22 PM
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> Maybe a =93foundation=94 is another word for how I often describe the
> =93principles=94. I encourage people, when I open a space, to make =
some
> assumptions about the gathering to assume what are stated as =
principles
and
> to act on that basis during the event. I think these only become
=93assumed=94
> after some evolution of consciousness and I don=92t experience most =
folks in
> organizations being there. I think it is important to articulate =
them, to
> influence the =93social construction=94 of the boundaries of the OST =
event
along
> with the most important part =96 the focus question or theme. Yep, it =
may
be
> a bit of ritualized behaviour but I think it helps increase the
> possibilities what will emerge in the self-organizing process that =
will
> happen anyway. Besides, I (we as facilitators) are one of the =
=93selves=94 in
> the self-organization.
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> Larry
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> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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>=20
>=20
>=20
> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of =
Artur
> Silva
> Sent: May-27-09 5:54 PM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?
>=20
> Harrison, Larry and all:
>=20
> I am afraid that I continue to read only the messages from this list =
from
> time to time...
>=20
> Today, I read this answer from Harrison to a reply from Larry to an
original
> comment by Harrison. The 3 messages referred are listed below, and I =
ask
you
> to first read the parts of those messages that I have transformed in =
bold.
>=20
> (...) Thanks for having done that ;-)
>=20
> Now, I am happy that Harrison agrees that "the 4 principles and one =
law
are
> neither laws nor principles actually" and that there will come a day =
when
> The Law and The Principles can be assigned to that wonderful status of
=93One
> more thing not to do.=94
>=20
> But Larry commented, very wisely as usual, about the importance of =
some
form
> of =93boundaries=94 or =93container=94 for self-organization.
>=20
> So, maybe it is the appropriate time to reintroduce a discussion that =
I
have
> tried to introduce many moons ago, about what are the foundations of =
OST.
>=20
> I mean,
>=20
> 1) if the principles are not "principles" after all, but only what =
always
> happens, and eventually even "one more thing not to do" (and I =
remember
you
> that I have done some OST experiments without reference to the =
Principles
-
> and all went well as usual), but
>=20
> 2) Some form of boundary or container is needed
>=20
> where this boundary or container does comes from?
>=20
> I have proposed to call that the "foundations" (not principles) of OST =
and
> proposed some ideas (that are only preliminary ideas) I would like to =
read
> (again) your opinions about.
>=20
> You can found my (preliminary) proposals, of some time ago, here
> http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST
>=20
> and here
>=20
> http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=3Dind0401
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> X=3D6543D44B5D0A7C3BC4&Y=3Darturfsilva%40yahoo.com.
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> Looking forward to hear from you all
>=20
> Warn regards from a warm night in Lisbon
>=20
> Artur
>=20
> ------
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>=20
>=20
> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>=20
> From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:23 AM
> Right on Larry =96 and I found a very curious and embarrassing typo in =
my
> small piece. I said, =93They (the Principles and the Law) are =
descriptive as
> opposed to descriptive.=94 I meant to say,=94They are descriptive as =
opposed
to
> prescriptive.=94 Point is neither the Law nor the Principles tell you =
what
to
> do =96 they simply alert everybody to what will be taking place no =
matter
> what. I think that is a useful function, but it really doesn=92t =
change a
> thing. In short =96 there will come a day when The Law and The =
Principles
can
> be assigned to that wonderful status of =93One more thing not to =
do.=94
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> Harrison
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> Harrison Owen
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of =
Larry
> Peterson
> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:44 AM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: Anti Laws of OST
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> For me, there is more sense in the =93Principles and Law=94 than =
non-sense.
> Stewart Kauffman explores the importance of some form of =
=93boundaries=94 or
> =93container=94 for self-organization, particularly that of cells. He
believes
> (with strong scientific evidence) that real physical work only gets =
done
> within some =93boundaries=94 or it dissipates. Cells, he asserts, =
co-create
> their =93boundaries=94 with their environment through self-organizing
> relationships in every moment. The boundaries are permeable, =
constructs,
> open to interchange with their environment. (No such thing as a closed
> system!)
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> Harrison, I believe you have articulated a set of socially constructed
> permeable =93boundaries=94 for enhancing human self-organization =96 =
including
the
> focus/theme, principles and law. These set a temporary set of
=93boundaries=94
> or a =93container=94 both focused and open that change the perceived
conditions
> for self-organization at an event or meeting. Self-organization is
> happening all the time, in every moment. Our mental maps (in =
practice)
and
> feelings shape what we do as we self-organize =96 what topics we =
propose and
> who we connect to. Are they necessary for self-organization (Open =
Space)
=96
> no, it is happening all the time as order emerges. Do they (or other
> similar statements about the social framework for our self-organizing)
help
> people to self-organize in exciting and creative ways? I think so.
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> Larry
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> Larry Peterson & Associates in Transformation
> Toronto, Ontario, Canada
>
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> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of =
Harrison
> Owen
> Sent: May-25-09 2:59 PM
> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Anti Laws of OST
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> Just to render the whole thing non-sensical, the 4 principles and one =
law
> are neither laws nor principles actually. To be honest they are just =
my
(and
> others=92) observations of what seemed to be happening in any case. In =
a
word
> they are descriptive as opposed to descriptive =96 You could say it is =
all a
> joke. Rather like =93technology=94 in the phrase Open Space =
Technology. The
> joke, however turned out to be outrageously funny =96 because somehow =
or
> another truth broke through. We are in serious trouble! Everybody =
knows
that
> what happens in Open Space simply can=92t happen. Unfortunately it =
does =96
and
> that makes a joke out of a whole mess of other stuff =96 like most of =
what
we
> think we know about meetings, the management of meetings, and =
management
> itself. Double trouble!!
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> Harrison
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=
What
great thoughts and feelings. Thank you all.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=
Speaking
of sustainable outcomes, it just occurred to me that we did an OS event =
at our
own company, <a href=3D"http://www.wohngeist.ch/">www.wohngeist.ch</a>, =
in 2007
(Pia and Peter Glanzmann were our facilitators then), for a day, =
exploring the
future of WohnGeist, 45 people representing our whole system (from =
clients to
suppliers, of course with all our employees). Are we important? If yes, =
where are
we going, where will we be in 2020? The most important result was that =
we
started looking for a bigger place to work in (instead of 3 small =
workshops
with lots of coordination required). In the end of 2008, we came across =
an old
window factory, a 13 minutes train ride from where we are now, which we =
could
buy, because we had the courage of offering our 1500 clients and =
relatives a
sustainable investment (shares and loans). We got a million Swiss =
Francs!!! So
now we are in the middle of planning all the projects needed to move. We =
held
another OS event (this time facilitated by myself) of half a day on may =
5<sup>th</sup>
2009 in the new location, with all our employees, some share holders and
friends, 30 people, to get started with the necessary work. One result =
was that
all our employees started to get the feeling of the new place and really =
got
involved. However, they complained that half a day was not enough, there =
were too
many interesting topics at the same time! Another result is that our =
employees are
thinking for the whole more and more, which I find fantastic. My =
husband, the
founder of our company, is starting to trust the process more and more, =
and
finally begins to let go of some of his former tasks, which others can =
do just
as well as himself.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>=
Mind
you, all this happened without our planning anything to foster =
sustainable
outcomes. So it might well be time to withdraw my original =
question… </span></font><font
size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DWingdings><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
line-height:115%;font-family:Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font =
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C.</span></font><font
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Pfaehler Senn<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=3D2 =
face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Suzanne Daigle
[mailto:sdaigle4 at gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> Mittwoch, 1. =
Juli 2009
12:55<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: AW: How can =
we foster
sustainable outcomes?</span></font><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
line-height:115%'>(warning very long...)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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As I follow and reflect on the discussion about visual protocol and =
offering
visual results from an Open Space experience and then think about how we
connect benefits of self-organizing to a client’s desired outcome, =
so
many questions surface for me. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
line-height:115%'>How can we honor a client’s desired outcome =
which
assumes predictability and control when Open Space invites something =
quite
different? With my limited experience with Open Space (I’ve =
only
done two as an unpaid volunteer) and a long corporate career, my gut =
tells me
that the Open Space way of lighting up passion and responsibility in
individuals and collectives will lead to results that far exceed what a =
client
could initially expect. I know because all my life, I’ve =
seen how
much gets accomplished when people are passionate about what they do. =
Open
Space is all about that. Many clients want a clear-cut route to improved
results, better service, higher quality, etc. This we cannot =
promise.
Rather, OS is a journey, a new way of doing which means undoing =
what
didn’t work, and seeing what we don’t’ want to see to =
create
what we can’t know. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
line-height:115%'>How can we effectively convey to a client the =
importance of
gut feel and intuition, inviting them to an experience that they must
“feel” and not just “think”? The dilemma is that =
you
cannot know Open Space until you’ve done Open Space and not just
once. How can you describe what get’s ignited in people when =
they
get to choose (Law of Two Feet), feel Equal and live/work according to
principles (4 OS principles) – something that makes so much sense =
but
that is so different than what our current hierarchical world =
dictates? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
line-height:115%'>Once people are activated in an Open Space way, I =
think it
ignites a longing that is in each of us and the difficulty is that you =
just
don’t want to go back to the old way. How then do we blend =
traditional and
self-organizing? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
line-height:115%'>I struggle with these questions and as I embark on =
this wild
ride of OS, I imagine myself building trust at the beginning of my =
relationship
with clients talking about the issues that they care about and that they =
know:
their business. Hopefully by connecting and being honest, I will
establish enough trust so that they will want to try this new way, =
knowing deep
inside them that the old ways aren’t working any more. =
It’s
about finding the courage of our voice and actions, doing this together =
in a
supportive way.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
line-height:115%'>Knowing that we cannot immediately and fully =
internalize all
that OS represents, I then struggle with how we can optimize and capture =
what
Open Space does inside you. What I did with incredible help from =
Michele
Young, who assisted me on the two Open Spaces that I facilitated, was =
create a
visual show that not only tried to capture in its authenticity what =
happened
there but also tried to convey the spirit of the invitation and =
preparation and
the OS concepts and themes of this new way of being so that people =
through
pictures can remember what it “felt” like to be part of =
this.
I questioned myself in doing so wondering if this went against the =
principles
of self-organizing, equality, and the self-effacing role of a =
facilitator. Then
I told myself: heck…I’m doing it anyway as a gift. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DCalibri><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;
line-height:115%'> </span></font><font size=3D2 color=3D"#fa0000"
face=3D"Comic Sans MS"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family:
"Comic Sans MS";color:#FA0000'>IONS Conference Open Space in Tucson<br>
</span></font><u><font size=3D2 color=3Dblue face=3D"Comic Sans =
MS"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";
color:blue'><a
href=3D"http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/daigle_Suzanne-208049-io=
ns-away-presentation-open-space-spiritual-inspirational-ppt-powerpoint/">=
http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/daigle_Suzanne-208049-ions-away-=
presentation-open-space-spiritual-inspirational-ppt-powerpoint/</a></span=
></font></u><font
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Roman"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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normal'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman"'>On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Harrison =
Owen
<<a href=3D"mailto:hhowen at verizon.net">hhowen at verizon.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
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w:st=3D"on">04843</st1:PostalCode></span></st1:place><span
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lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Liebe Catherine,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>ich hab zu Deiner Frage schon mal in dieser =
Liste
auf Englisch </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>geschrieben, aber hier kommts nochmal auf =
deutsch (ich
f=E4nds super, </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>wenns auch noch jemand, der es auf =
franz=F6sisch und
italienisch und </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Latein probiert, aufschreibt, damit es sich =
in der
ganzen Schweiz </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>verbreiten kann):</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><st1:State w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on"><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier =
New"'>Mich</span></font></st1:place></st1:State><span
lang=3DEN-US> interessieren Nachhaltigkeit oder nachhaltige Ergebnisse =
in meiner <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Rolle als Begleiter =FCberhaupt =
nicht.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Wenn der Veranstalter allerdings sowas will, =
nehm
ich ihm ja auch in </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>keiner Weise krumm, dann sage ich ihm, was er =
tun
kann, damit die </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Wahrscheinlichkeit von nachhaltiger Umsetzung =
von
Verabredungen zu </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Vorhaben steigt und welcher Aufwand von
Veranstaltern dazu mit ziemlich </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>gutem Erfolg daf=FCr betrieben worden =
ist.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Gleich zu Anfang m=F6chte ich Dir aber =
verraten, dass
die Form der </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Dokumentation dabei eine eher untergeordnete =
Rolle
spielt (hierzu hatte </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>ich auch auf die Berichte von John Engle =
verwiesen
aus Situationen, in </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>denen es kein Papier, keine Stifte gibt und =
in denen
viele der </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Teilnehmenden auch nicht lesen oder schreiben
k=F6nnen).</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Also hier meine Hinweise an den =
Veranstalter:</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>1. Ein Vorbereitungstreffen mit einer Gruppe, =
die in
etwa die erwartete </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Teilnehmerschaft abbildet, also das ganze =
System,
wie es sich zu diesem </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Zeitpunkt f=FCr ihn darstellt, =
zusammenbringen. Sie /
er geh=F6rt dazu. </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Optimal ist, wenn diese Gruppe authorisiert =
ist mit
ihr / ihm gemeinsame </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>alles zu entscheiden: Thema, Einzuladende,
Einladung, Organisation, etc.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Ich biete ihm die Begleitung des in der Regel
3,5st=FCndigen Treffens an.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>2. Eine Einladung, in der nicht nur zu der
Veranstaltung eingeladen </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>wird, sondern auch schon zu dem 8 bis 12 =
Wochen
sp=E4ter stattfindendem </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>"N=E4chsten Treffen", bei dem die =
Vorhaben,
die in der Handlungsplanung am </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Ende der OST Veranstaltung verabredet wurden,
angeschaut werden...wo </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>sind wir jetzt?, gibts neue Vorhaben?, wie =
gehts weiter?...plus
m=F6gliche </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>weitere "N=E4chste =
Treffen".</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>3. Ein Verfahren, in dem so gut wie es =
irgendwie
m=F6glich ist </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>sichergestellt wird, dass all diejenigen auf =
jeweils
spezifische Art und </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Weise vom Veranstalter und Mitgliedern der
Vorbereitungsgruppe </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>eingeladen werden, die daf=FCr notwendig =
erscheinen,
die Erwartungen unter </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>der gew=E4hlten =DCberschrift auch =
tats=E4chlich
einzul=F6sen.</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>4. Eine dreit=E4gige Veranstaltung, also 16 =
Stunden
auf drei Tage verteilt </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>(Nachmittag, ganzer Tag, Vor-oder =
Nachmittag),
zweimal schlafen, mit </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>einer Handlungsplanung am letzten =
Tag.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>5. Eine Dokuwand mit allen aus den =
Anliegengruppen
entstehenden </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Ergebnissen, die nochmal von allen gegen Ende =
des 2.
Tages gemeinsame </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>zur Kenntnis genommen wird mit der =
M=F6glichkeit, dann
noch zu jedem </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Ergebnisblatt auf einem Erg=E4nzungsblatt =
weitere
Fragen, Hinweise, etc. </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>festzuhalten.(Diese gesammelten Werke =
k=F6nnen
entweder als Papierdoku in </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>der Nacht vom 2. auf den 3. Tag hergestellt =
werden
und den Teilnehmenden </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>am dritten Tag morgens gegeben werden oder =
als
pdf/eDoku nach der </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Veranstaltung auf einer www erscheinen, zu =
der die
Teilnehmenden Zugang </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>haben).</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>6. Eine Kontaktliste der Teilnehmenden mit =
von den
TeilnehmerInnen </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>=FCberpr=FCften Kontaktdaten f=FCr alle =
Teilnehmenden, die
das wollen, am Ende </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>der Veranstaltung an alle Teilnehmenden f=FCr =
die
Kommunikation nach der </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Tagung verteilen (die Kontaktliste wurde im =
Laufe
der Veranstaltung von </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>den Teilnehmenden selber =
erstellt).</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>7. Kopien der Verabredungen, die in der
Handlungsplanung zu den Vorhaben </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>entstanden sind, an alle Teilnehmenden innert =
einer
Woche nach der </span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Veranstaltung verschicken samt Einladung zu =
dem
bereits bekannten </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>"N=E4chsten =
Treffen".</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>8. Deutliche Hinweise darauf, das alles von =
den
Teilnehmenden so weit es </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>irgend m=F6glich ist, selbst getan wird (ihre
Anliegengruppen selbst=E4ndig </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>organisieren,Dokubl=E4tter =
anfertigen,Kontaktliste
erstellen...)</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>F=FCr Veranstalter, die Nachhaltigkeit =
wollen, ist das
alles sehr einfach, </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>einleuchtend, notwendig.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>F=FCr Veranstalter, die das nicht (wirklich) =
wollen,
ist das alles eine </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>eher un=FCberwindbare =
Barriere.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>So, das ist das, was ich mache und ich =
m=F6chte nicht,
dass es als Rezept </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>verstanden wird. Wenn jemand es so =
ausprobiert,
w=FCrde es <st1:State w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">mich</st1:place></st1:State>
</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>=FCberraschen, wenn es nicht =
klappt....</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Herzlich Gr=FC=DFe aus <st1:State =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
w:st=3D"on">Berlin</st1:place></st1:State></span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>mmp</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>Catherine Pfaehler wrote:</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Dear Reinhard</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> As you describe it in depth, it becomes =
more
understandable and really</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> sounds wonderful. </span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> What about writing a book on methods and =
hints
for visual protocols? I</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> especially like your idea of the =
participants
doing the visual protocols</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> themselves. Some might even discover =
they have
a talent they weren't aware</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> of!</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> And my original question remains open - =
what do
others do to foster</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> sustainable outcomes?</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Heartfully, C.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Catherine Pfaehler =
Senn</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> lic.oec.HSG</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Open Space Begleitung</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> St. Alban-Vorstadt 15</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> CH - 4052 <st1:City =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Basel</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> +41-(0)76 - 488 15 46</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a
href=3D"mailto:c.pfaehler at open-space-begleitung.ch" =
target=3D"_blank">c.pfaehler at open-space-begleitung.ch</a></span></font><s=
pan
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a =
href=3D"http://www.open-space-begleitung.ch"
target=3D"_blank">www.open-space-begleitung.ch</a></span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> -----Urspr=FCngliche =
Nachricht-----</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Von: Reinhard Kuchenmueller [mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:mail at visuelle-protokolle.de" =
target=3D"_blank">mail at visuelle-protokolle.de</a>]
</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Gesendet: Samstag, 27. Juni 2009 =
07:01</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> An: <a =
href=3D"mailto:c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch"
target=3D"_blank">c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch</a>; <a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Betreff: AW: How can we foster =
sustainable
outcomes?</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Dear Catherine,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> it seems t get a dialogue between you =
and me -
and Harrison defending his</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> turf - while all the others are busy =
discussing
Paris Stammtisch and some</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> problems of dogma and exegesis in the =
holy
principles.</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> My focus lies on the os =
meeting. My
heart belongs to the paricipating</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> people, my head to the client behind
everything. In a meeting of lets say</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> 200 participants everybody can choose =
between
lets say ten group themes in</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> every time slot. If it goes for two =
days, with
five time slots, that makes</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> 50 groups of which the everage =
participant
chooses five groups. All the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> other groups, their themes, their =
surprising
developments, their exitement,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> their outcome, does not exist for him. =
All the
groups make some protocols,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> but in the worst possible way, in =
handwriting,
and some typed short version.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Our everage participant does rarely read =
the
outcomes of other groups. The</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> facilitator made himself invisible and =
is of
little help. So his horizon is</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> built from 10 percent of the whole =
meeting. He
goes home with a beautiful</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> experience of team building and =
self
organisation, and some memeory of 10</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> percent of the meeting. The client goes =
home
with some written excerpts, and</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> if he is lucky he will be confronted =
with some
ideas afterwards, of people</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> who want to ontinue their threads. Who =
is
helping him to build the bridge</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> between his basic theme, his =
exspectations, and
the outcome? The</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> facilitator? By which =
means?</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> I would wish all the os people could =
take part
just once in a visualized os</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> event. Some witnesses, fair minded, =
impartial,
are moving from group to</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> group, gathering process, results and
atmosphere on small picture cards.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Nobody is noticing them. They put these =
picture
cards into a big picture</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> wall, all the time, so that everybody =
who
passes can get all the procedures</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> in some seconds time. And in the evening =
all
the picture cards, digitalized</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> in the meantime, are shown to the plenum =
as a
slide show with some music,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> for about 10 minutes The participants =
not only
increase the memory of their</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> own group from 20 to 60 percent, as =
scientists
can proove, but at the same</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> time they get an overview about the =
whole big
theme in all its complexity.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> As if they can suddenly see the whole =
tree, of
which they were busy handling</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> some branches so far. I experienced a =
deep
satisfaction among the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> participants every time we did that =
work. Of
course all that is against the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> old os dogma, but that does not bother =
the
people at all.</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> And the client? He gets a detailled =
insight
into all the groups. The little</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> images can be used in many ways to =
foster
sustainable outcomes, as you say.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> They can be clustered, regrouped, with
atonishing results, showing what</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> people really said and mean.They can be =
used as
material to work with in</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> smaller groups who continue with some =
items,
they can be put into the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> intranet, printed as leaflets, little =
books,
calendars, posters, hang in the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> corridors ... As means to take the
results really seriously.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> AND NOW THE BIG QUESTION: is that worth =
the
extra costs of extra people, who</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> visualize the event? Some clients say =
yes, it
is. It makes the difference</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> between a beautiful experience of self
orgsnization and the welding of a</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> tool for the =
organization.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> I myself would not propose to visualize =
every
os meeting by external</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> visualizers. I would like very =
much to
experiment with internal</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> visualization. We developed different =
ways of
visualizing by participants.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Once we made 800 union people in =
<st1:City
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place w:st=3D"on">vienna</st1:place></st1:City> draw in =
little
groups, 72 images,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> with an amazing =
result.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> I can imagine, that in every os group =
two or
three people start to doodle,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> to draw what they experience, on little =
cards.
A bit like world cafe (I</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> propose to the world cafe people to use =
little
cards as well). And then like</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> said before, the cards can be hung into =
the
picture wall, group by geoup,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> and shown in the evening as slide show. =
I would
very much like to develop</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> this method and to make it available to =
the
whole os community.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> mit freundlichen =
Gr=FC=DFen</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> best regards</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Reinhard =
Kuchenm=FCller</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> tel. +39-0566 88929</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a =
href=3D"http://www.visuelle-protokolle.de"
target=3D"_blank">www.visuelle-protokolle.de</a></span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> =
________________________________________</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Von: Catherine Pfaehler [<a
href=3D"mailto:c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch" =
target=3D"_blank">c.pfaehler at bluewin.ch</a>]</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Juni 2009 =
17:15</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> An: Reinhard =
Kuchenmueller</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Cc: '<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>'</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Betreff: How can we foster sustainable
outcomes?</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Dear Reinhard</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> You have a very interesting point there. =
I have
often wondered how the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> sustainable implementation of visible =
results
can be fostered "better" by</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> me, as in the post-OS-meeting, I often =
find my
clients to focus on different</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> things than what I would have =
expected.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Then, again, on the other side, I am =
well aware
that a most important side</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> result of an OS event is always =
teambuilding,
communication and a stronger</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> commitment to their organisation by many
participants. And if I succeed in</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> allowing the client to really be =
responsible
for what happens with the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> results, then I need to let go after =
having
asked the evaluation questions</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> and some others like "Does anything =
need a
vessel for coordination now?" and</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> "What has been developing since the =
OS
event?".</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Other opinions??</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Heartfully, C.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Catherine Pfaehler =
Senn</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> lic.oec.HSG</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Open Space Begleitung</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> St. Alban-Vorstadt 15</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> CH - 4052 <st1:City =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Basel</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> +41-(0)76 - 488 15 46</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a
href=3D"mailto:c.pfaehler at open-space-begleitung.ch" =
target=3D"_blank">c.pfaehler at open-space-begleitung.ch</a></span></font><s=
pan
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a =
href=3D"http://www.open-space-begleitung.ch"
target=3D"_blank">www.open-space-begleitung.ch</a></span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> -----Urspr=FCngliche =
Nachricht-----</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Von: Reinhard Kuchenmueller [mailto:<a
href=3D"mailto:mail at visuelle-protokolle.de" =
target=3D"_blank">mail at visuelle-protokolle.de</a>]</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Gesendet: Montag, 22. Juni 2009 =
19:12</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Betreff: AW: [<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>]
Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> my two cents:</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> a principle is defined as a law =
superordinated
to every other law.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Condition: A certain effect can always =
be
retraced to the same constellation</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> of facts. =
(wikipedia).</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> In this sense <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Harrison</st1:place>'s
principles are definitively no principles at all.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> But he was really clever: two martinis =
and four
mundane sentences - and the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> whole world is repeating them like a =
mantra.
Mantras, as the east knows</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> since thousands of years, don't have to =
have a
meaning, the essence lies</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> behind them. It only gets painful, if =
you start
to worship the mantras</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> instead of the =
essence.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Why is open space so effective? =
Certainly not
because of the mantras. As I</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> see it, we have to dig =
deeper:</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> I could think of principles =
like:</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> People are basically interested - =
to
engage themselves</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier =
New"'>> &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p;  =
;
- to take responsibility</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier =
New"'>> &nb=
sp; &nbs=
p;  =
;
- to interlink themselves</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> That happens as soon as one stops to =
treat
people like obstinate mules.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> And there exist conditions, which foster =
that,
which support this so called</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> self organisation.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Certainly open space technology, as it =
is
practised worldwide, is an</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> excellent condition for self =
organisation.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> And your 'foundations' define it =
well.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Rather often a client spends money for =
an open
space event, and for the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> facilitator who proposes open space as a =
tool
for the clients' purposes.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> This aspect seems to be underestimated =
in the
debate.</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> In my view the facilitator is =
responsible to
link the proposed and choosen</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> form of the event, in our case open =
space, with
the system and the purpose</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> of the client. What the client pays for =
is not
the self organisation of his</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> people, that is only a beautiful side =
effect,
and a bridge to engage people</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> in the affairs of the client - and more =
often
simultaneously in their own</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> working conditions.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> I cannot understand the disinterest of =
many
open space facilitators towards</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> the outcome and its linkage with the =
system of
the client.</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> That, in my eyes, is also the reason for =
the
disinterest towards optimal</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> forms of recording the outcome - and as =
a
visual facilitator I of course</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> propagate a visual form of =
protocol.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> The discussions in the os list are =
mainly
conducted with the back to the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> clients, and that is a =
pity.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> mit freundlichen =
Gr=FC=DFen</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> best regards</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Reinhard =
Kuchenm=FCller</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> VISUELLE PROTOKOLLE</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> tel. +39-0566 88929</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a =
href=3D"http://www.visuelle-protokolle.de"
target=3D"_blank">www.visuelle-protokolle.de</a></span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> =
________________________________________</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Von: <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
[<a href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
im Auftrag von Artur Silva</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> [<a =
href=3D"mailto:arturfsilva at YAHOO.COM"
target=3D"_blank">arturfsilva at YAHOO.COM</a>]</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Juni 2009 =
18:25</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> An: <a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Betreff: Re: [<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>]
Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Larry:</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> I am sorry but only today I had the time =
to
answer you.</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> We certainly need foundations or =
principles to
Open Space.</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> But I prefer the word =
"foundations"
instead of "principles" because, due to</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> the man of the hat, this word is =
connected
forever (only) with "the 4</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> principles". And I think that that =
there are
other principles (foundations)</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> as important as, or even more important =
than,
the 4 so called principles.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Indeed I think (sorry <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Harrison</st1:place>)
that the expression "The 4 principles" was</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> badly chosen.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Because it they are "what always
happens" they are not principles at all.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> And because we think that we must state =
the
principles in the beginning of</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> every session (I myself to that the =
majority o
the times - but not always")</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> and I am more and more convinced that =
they are
useless. You can state them</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> or nor, and the same things will occur. =
They
are probably "one less thing to</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> do/state".</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> But there are other principles or =
foundations
that are essential, in the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> sense that if they are not present =
different
things will happen.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> In the discussion I opened in our wiki =
some
years ago I proposed the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> following:</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> 3. I would suggest, as HO wrote in the =
old
User’s Guide, that OST begins</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> with:</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> * A THEME that is =
compelling
enough, but also general and open enough to</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> let people dream about =
and</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> * A GROUP OF COMMITED =
PEOPLE
(reason for the presences to be almost</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> always voluntary)</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> * Enough DIVERSITY in =
the
group</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> 4. To those foundations one can add =
others that
are generally accepted by</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> all practitioners:</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> * The CIRCLE (even if, =
in
some cases, some argue that a "virtual =
circle"</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> will do)</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> * The Bulletin =
Board</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> * The Market =
Place</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> * The "law of two
feet" (one of the most, if not the most =
important</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> feature, from where butterflies and =
bumblebees
"germinate" and many</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> conflicts =
"evaporate")</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> * The "four
principles" (as I have promised ;-)</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> (<a
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST"
target=3D"_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?Foundatio=
nsofOST</a>)</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> If I were to rewrite this today, I would =
surely
suppress the last line. But</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> all the other "foundations"
(including the law of two feet) are essential.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> If you suppress one of them you will =
have a
meeting; but not, IMHO, an OST</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> meeting. But we may not talk at all =
about the
"4 principles" and everything</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> will happen as usual.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Best regrsds to all</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Artur</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> --- On Thu, 5/28/09, Larry Peterson =
<<a
href=3D"mailto:larry at spiritedorg.com" =
target=3D"_blank">larry at spiritedorg.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> From: Larry Peterson <<a
href=3D"mailto:larry at spiritedorg.com" =
target=3D"_blank">larry at spiritedorg.com</a>></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Subject: Re: [<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>]
Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> To: <a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 5:22 =
PM</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Maybe a “foundation” is =
another
word for how I often describe the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> “principles”. I =
encourage
people, when I open a space, to make some</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> assumptions about the gathering to =
assume what
are stated as principles and</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> to act on that basis during the =
event. I
think these only become “assumed”</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> after some evolution of consciousness =
and I
don’t experience most folks in</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> organizations being there. I think =
it is
important to articulate them, to</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> influence the “social =
construction”
of the boundaries of the OST event along</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> with the most important part – the =
focus
question or theme. Yep, it may be</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> a bit of ritualized behaviour but I =
think it
helps increase the</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> possibilities what will emerge in the
self-organizing process that will</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> happen anyway. Besides, I (we as
facilitators) are one of the “selves” in</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> the =
self-organization.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Larry</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Larry Peterson & Associates in
Transformation</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on">Toronto</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st=3D"on">Ontario</st1:State>, <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a href=3D"mailto:larry at spiritedorg.com"
target=3D"_blank">larry at spiritedorg.com</a><<a
href=3D"http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dlarry@spi" =
target=3D"_blank">http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dlarry@sp=
i</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a href=3D"http://ritedorg.com" =
target=3D"_blank">ritedorg.com</a>>
416.653.4829</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a href=3D"http://www.spiritedorg.com"
target=3D"_blank">http://www.spiritedorg.com</a><<a
href=3D"http://www.spiritedorg.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.spiritedorg.com/</a>></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> From: <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
On Behalf Of Artur</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Silva</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Sent: May-27-09 5:54 =
PM</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> To: <a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Subject: Re: [<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>]
Anti Laws of OST - Foundations of OST?</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Harrison, Larry and =
all:</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> I am afraid that I continue to read only =
the
messages from this list from</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> time to time...</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Today, I read this answer from =
<st1:place
w:st=3D"on">Harrison</st1:place> to a reply from Larry to an =
original</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> comment by <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Harrison</st1:place>.
The 3 messages referred are listed below, and I ask =
you</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> to first read the parts of those =
messages that
I have transformed in bold.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> (...) Thanks for having done that =
;-)</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Now, I am happy that <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Harrison</st1:place>
agrees that "the 4 principles and one law are</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> neither laws nor principles =
actually" and
that there will come a day when</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> The Law and The Principles can be =
assigned to
that wonderful status of “One</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> more thing not to =
do.”</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> But Larry commented, very wisely as =
usual,
about the importance of some form</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> of “boundaries” or
“container” for self-organization.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> So, maybe it is the appropriate time to
reintroduce a discussion that I have</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> tried to introduce many moons ago, about =
what
are the foundations of OST.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> I mean,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> 1) if the principles are not
"principles" after all, but only what =
always</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> happens, and eventually even "one =
more
thing not to do" (and I remember you</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> that I have done some OST experiments =
without
reference to the Principles -</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> and all went well as usual), =
but</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> 2) Some form of boundary or container is =
needed</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> where this boundary or container does =
comes
from?</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> I have proposed to call that the =
"foundations"
(not principles) of OST and</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> proposed some ideas (that are only =
preliminary
ideas) I would like to read</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> (again) your opinions =
about.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> You can found my (preliminary) =
proposals, of
some time ago, here</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?FoundationsofOST"
target=3D"_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/cgi/netwiki.cgi?Foundatio=
nsofOST</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> and here</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a
href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=3Dind0401&L=3Dos=
list&P=3DR23925&I=3D-3&"
target=3D"_blank">http://listserv.boisestate.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=3Dind0401&=
amp;L=3Doslist&P=3DR23925&I=3D-3&</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> =
X=3D6543D44B5D0A7C3BC4&Y=3Darturfsilva%<a
href=3D"http://40yahoo.com" =
target=3D"_blank">40yahoo.com</a>.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Looking forward to hear from you =
all</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Warn regards from a warm night in =
<st1:City
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Lisbon</st1:place></st1:City></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Artur</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> ------</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Harrison Owen =
<<a
href=3D"mailto:hhowen at verizon.net" =
target=3D"_blank">hhowen at verizon.net</a>>
wrote:</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> From: Harrison Owen <<a
href=3D"mailto:hhowen at verizon.net" =
target=3D"_blank">hhowen at verizon.net</a>></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Subject: Re: [<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>]
Anti Laws of OST</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> To: <a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 7:23 =
AM</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Right on Larry – and I found a =
very
curious and embarrassing typo in my</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> small piece. I said, “They (the
Principles and the Law) are descriptive as</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> opposed to descriptive.” I meant =
to
say,”They are descriptive as opposed to</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> prescriptive.” Point is neither =
the Law
nor the Principles tell you what to</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> do – they simply alert everybody =
to what
will be taking place no matter</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> what. I think that is a useful function, =
but it
really doesn’t change a</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> thing. In short – there will come =
a day
when The Law and The Principles can</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> be assigned to that wonderful status of
“One more thing not to do.”</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Harrison</st1:place></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Harrison Owen</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address =
w:st=3D"on">7808
River Falls Drive</st1:address></st1:Street></span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on">Potomac</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st=3D"on">Maryland</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode =
w:st=3D"on">20854</st1:PostalCode></st1:place></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Phone 301-365-2093</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Skype hhowen</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Open Space Training <a
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.openspaceworld.com</a><<a
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.com/</a>></span></font><sp=
an
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Open Space Institute <a
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org" =
target=3D"_blank">www.openspaceworld.org</a><<a
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.openspaceworld.org/</a>></span></font><sp=
an
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Personal website <a
href=3D"http://www.ho-image.com" =
target=3D"_blank">www.ho-image.com</a><<a
href=3D"http://www.ho-image.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.ho-image.com/</a>></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>:
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the =
archives</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Visit:</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a
href=3D"http://www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" =
target=3D"_blank">www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</a><=
;<a
href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate" =
target=3D"_blank">http://listserv.boisestate</a>.</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> =
edu/archives/oslist.html></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> -----Original =
Message-----</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> From: <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
On Behalf Of Larry</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Peterson</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:44 =
AM</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> To: <a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Subject: Re: Anti Laws of =
OST</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> For me, there is more sense in the
“Principles and Law” than non-sense.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Stewart Kauffman explores the importance =
of
some form of “boundaries” or</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> “container” for =
self-organization,
particularly that of cells. He believes</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> (with strong scientific evidence) that =
real
physical work only gets done</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> within some “boundaries” or =
it
dissipates. Cells, he asserts, co-create</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> their “boundaries” with =
their
environment through self-organizing</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> relationships in every moment. The
boundaries are permeable, constructs,</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> open to interchange with their =
environment. (No
such thing as a closed</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> system!)</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Harrison</st1:place>, I
believe you have articulated a set of socially =
constructed</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> permeable “boundaries” for
enhancing human self-organization – including =
the</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> focus/theme, principles and law. =
These
set a temporary set of “boundaries”</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> or a “container” both =
focused and
open that change the perceived conditions</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> for self-organization at an event or
meeting. Self-organization is</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> happening all the time, in every =
moment.
Our mental maps (in practice) and</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> feelings shape what we do as we =
self-organize
– what topics we propose and</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> who we connect to. Are they =
necessary for
self-organization (Open Space) –</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> no, it is happening all the time as =
order
emerges. Do they (or other</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> similar statements about the social =
framework
for our self-organizing) help</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> people to self-organize in exciting and
creative ways? I think so.</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Larry</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Larry Peterson & Associates in
Transformation</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on">Toronto</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st=3D"on">Ontario</st1:State>, <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a href=3D"mailto:larry at spiritedorg.com"
target=3D"_blank">larry at spiritedorg.com</a><<a
href=3D"http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dlarry@spi" =
target=3D"_blank">http://us.mc546.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dlarry@sp=
i</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a href=3D"http://ritedorg.com" =
target=3D"_blank">ritedorg.com</a>>
416.653.4829</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <a href=3D"http://www.spiritedorg.com"
target=3D"_blank">http://www.spiritedorg.com</a><<a
href=3D"http://www.spiritedorg.com/" =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.spiritedorg.com/</a>></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> From: <st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a>]
On Behalf Of Harrison</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Owen</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Sent: May-25-09 2:59 =
PM</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> To: <a
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" =
target=3D"_blank">OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</a></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Subject: Re: [<st1:PersonName =
w:st=3D"on">OSLIST</st1:PersonName>]
Anti Laws of OST</span></font><span lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Just to render the whole thing =
non-sensical,
the 4 principles and one law</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> are neither laws nor principles =
actually. To be
honest they are just my (and</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> others’) observations of what =
seemed to
be happening in any case. In a word</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> they are descriptive as opposed to =
descriptive
– You could say it is all a</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> joke. Rather like =
“technology” in
the phrase Open Space Technology. The</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> joke, however turned out to be =
outrageously
funny – because somehow or</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> another truth broke through. We are in =
serious
trouble! Everybody knows that</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> what happens in Open Space simply =
can’t
happen. Unfortunately it does – and</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> that makes a joke out of a whole mess of =
other
stuff – like most of what we</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> think we know about meetings, the =
management of
meetings, and management</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> itself. Double =
trouble!!</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Harrison</st1:place></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Harrison Owen</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:Street w:st=3D"on"><st1:address =
w:st=3D"on">7808
River Falls Drive</st1:address></st1:Street></span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> <st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:City =
w:st=3D"on">Potomac</st1:City>,
<st1:State w:st=3D"on">Maryland</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode =
w:st=3D"on">20854</st1:PostalCode></st1:place></span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Phone 301-365-2093</span></font><span
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Courier New"'>> Skype hhowen</span></font><span =
lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=3D2 face=3D"Courier New"><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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