Why is a grid sometimes useful?
Wendy Farmer-O'Neil
wendy at xe.net
Tue Aug 11 10:50:19 PDT 2009
Thanks Michael for one less thing to do :)
Wendy
On 11-Aug-09, at 10:27 AM, Michael Herman wrote:
> on colors... it's easy to put a little stripe down the side of each
> post-it note... so with a full set of markers, i never run out of
> colors -- if i want to color code things at all.
>
> and this notion of who organizes and when can apply to setting up
> the chairs as well. do you set circles of 10 or 12 or 15 chairs in
> breakout spaces? my very first open space i did it that way. and
> in some groups of two and three, people ended up sitting seemed like
> so very far away from each other. not knowing each other well
> enough to move closer. ever since then i put only three chairs,
> with front corners right together, so that anyone sitting here will
> have to decide where it goes relative to others. even if only two
> people show up. i put extras in stacks or lines along the wall and
> more than three ppts can pull from there. or they pull from big
> circle. so this gives ppts full responsibility for how close they
> get to others and is a lot easier for setting up.
>
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> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Chris Corrigan <chris.corrigan at gmail.com
> > wrote:
> Late to the grid talk...
>
> By default I don't use a grid. What I like about the gridless setup
> is that it gives the control freaks something to do. It's hard
> enough being in the chaos of space opening - many type A
> personalities feel helpless. When the come to the wall, it has
> often been my experience that they take charge and organize things
> by time, sometimes lining up the posters very nicely. As a ritual
> it seems to calm them down and ground them and it gives the message
> that this is truly a day owned by the group.
>
> And more often than not, folks just get along fine with the collage.
>
> But there is another way I have done things, especially when the
> start and finish times are likely to shift (in indigenous
> communities things can start a lot later than is scheduled.)
> Instead of writing times and spaces on dozens of post it notes, I
> just write the spaces and I place them on a big poster that says the
> times. If the times change, it's easy to just make a new poster and
> cluster the little post-it notes around it. If you colour code the
> writing on the poster with the colour of the post it notes, it makes
> it kinesthetically easier to see the pattern.
>
> (I almost always use coloured post-it notes by the way, one colour
> for each time slot).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Peggy Holman <peggy at opencirclecompany.com
> > wrote:
> To grid or not to grid...
>
> For me, it depends. Two circumstances lead me to offer more order.
>
> Size. As the size of the group increases, there are more sessions
> to track. With a larger group, I post times along the top of the
> agenda wall. Like Lisa, I often use different colors for different
> times. When I did the OS for 2,100 street kids in Bogota, we set up
> a grid; each time had its own wall and we put the room numbers
> across the rows:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/78084501@N00/79452637/in/set-1700469/
>
> It just seemed the best way to support the crowd in finding sessions
> of interest.
>
> Culture. The other circumstance in which I've used a grid is when
> the culture of the group seems to call for it. As Kaliya noted,
> engineers seem more productive with a grid. I think it is for them,
> one less thing.
>
> Speaking of culture, one of the most telling images for me is the OS
> of 2108 that Harrison and Michael did in Wurtzberg and the 2,100
> street kids. As people waited to announce their sessions in
> Germany, they were in a neat line. The street kids looked like a
> mob around Andres, who held the mic. In both cases, it was orderly
> but the image was sure different!
>
> Wurzberg: http://www.transformation.at//?art_id=46
> (pages 39-41)
>
>
> Colombia:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/78084501@N00/79454421/in/set-1700469/
>
> Peggy
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> On Aug 7, 2009, at 6:00 AM, Harrison Owen wrote:
>
>> Artur – we will be looking forward to your return! And an odd
>> thought passed through my muddled mind. It occurred to me, I think
>> because you mentioned being an engineer that it might somehow
>> appear that “getting organized” and “being organized” are somehow
>> anathema to Open Space. It might even seem that I have implied as
>> much – if so that would be a massive mistake on my part. The issue
>> is not “organization” – but who does it and when does it happen?
>> The truth of the matter is that every Open Space is highly
>> organized, usually more so than any facilitator or planning
>> committee could ever imagine.
>>
>> Consider 2108 German psychiatrists X 236 concurrent sessions in an
>> 8 hour period. That would take a planning committee years! And they
>> would never get it right -- things would always be late, and great
>> frustration would be a predictable outcome. In the instance, the
>> people did it all themselves in something less than an hour and it
>> all worked out perfectly including written reports for all or most
>> of the sessions. Now Mr Engineer, Can you beat that? Just kidding J
>>
>> For me the real issue is efficiency and effectiveness – which are
>> presumably positive values that all engineers will ascribe to. In
>> that case the only question is how do you get there fastest and
>> bestest? The curious answer would seem to be Do Less!
>>
>> Harrison
>>
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>> From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
>> Artur Silva
>> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 6:57 AM
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>> Subject: Re: Why is a grid sometimes useful?
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>> Being out of my office with bad internet contact and short of time,
>> I only red some of this rich exchange.
>>
>> I must say, like Bernd, that, probably because of my education as
>> an engineer, I never thought about doing it without a grid. And
>> living in a Chatolic country, even with a grid, most managers think
>> that OST is too much for them...
>>
>> But then some coments from Harrison and Lisa make me think...
>>
>> I will continue to think, and after the 18th, with better conexion,
>> I will coment something.
>>
>> But don´t ask me what ;-)
>>
>> Regards from the countryside somewhere in the north of Portugal
>>
>> Artur
>>
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>> --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [OSLIST] Why is a grid sometimes useful?
>> To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
>> Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 5:17 AM
>>
>> Lesley, I think you got it! (“It is my sense of things that the
>> more we order….the more we take away from the process……..however
>> this can be very uncomfortable for us(facilitator”). It is all
>> about organizing a self organizing system. Not only is that an
>> oxymoron, but also of questionable intelligence – regardless of the
>> alleged increase of comfort.
>>
>> Harrison
>>
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