just wondering

douglas germann 76066.515 at compuserve.com
Wed Oct 1 19:40:35 PDT 2008


Jack, Harrison, Marty--

Permit me to take the inquiry a step deeper: the reason the context of
listening is rich and generative goes beyond listening to hearing. When
we are heard, we connect. Perhaps more precisely, when we hear someone,
they are connected to us in ways that are beyond understanding.

Hearing is the key. It is, I think, a taking in of the person of the
other, respecting (seeing again), and meeting the real person.

Sounds a bit mystical, and it is. But it is most practical in our
speak-at world.

So your emphasis on connectivity is exactly on.

			:- Doug.

On Wed, 2008-10-01 at 13:49 -0400, Jack Ricchiuto wrote:
> Thanks for provoking such a rich question about free markets. It's my
> experience that when OS works, it's because people exercise freedom in
> connectivity, in a rich and generative context of listening. This is
> the opposite of freedom in isolation from and competition over others.
> OS also invites co-responsibility. This is the opposite of a community
> divided into power haves and have-nots.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>         Marti – I think that is just the beginning of
>         "responsibility." In the first moments it is, as you, say –
>         name your passion and show up. But over time the stakes
>         increase if the passion is sustained. Ultimate passions
>         require ultimate responsibility. I am not sure that is a
>         matter of philosophy. For me it is much more a matter of
>         observation. Over the years, that is just the way it has
>         appeared to me. And it is a far cry from the rather limpid
>         laissez faire. I guess I just do not find the comparisons to
>         various political ideologies all that helpful, and for sure in
>         my own experience, OST never grew out of any political
>         ideology. It just happened, and to a large extent, its
>         occurrence was an embarrassment. No right thinking person,
>         schooled in the ways things are supposed to be, would ever
>         believe it. And most don't. Which is at once both a problem
>         and an opportunity. I think.
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>         From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf
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>         Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:43 AM
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>         Subject: just wondering
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>         I am wondering …
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>         The philosophy of Open Space seems to promote a genuinely free
>         market for ideas.  The underlying belief, as I understand it,
>         is that allowing each person to follow his/her passion is the
>         best way to discover the best ideas and solutions.  It's
>         efficient, just like a market.  This sure sounds like the
>         'invisible hand' and laissez-faire capitalism to me.
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>         I have even sold Open Space to some corporate execs by
>         pointing out that since they value the free market so dearly
>         outside their company, they might want to try a free market
>         for ideas inside their company. 
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>         So I have often wondered if people on this list believe as
>         passionately in the free market for the economy as they do in
>         Open Space.   In the current economic crisis, as the world
>         clamors for greater regulation – i.e. more rules and limits on
>         the freedom of markets – I am wondering if any of you have any
>         thoughts or insights to share.
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>         I imagine Harrison will remind me that Open Space runs on
>         freedom and responsibility… yet the responsibility asked of
>         participants in Open Space is pretty minimal – naming their
>         passion and showing up for their sessions and respecting
>         others' freedom to do the same.   It's well short of
>         socialism.
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