New York City
Laurence Berg
laurenceberg at gmail.com
Wed May 14 07:02:14 PDT 2008
Hi again New Yorkers (current, soon-to-be, and virtual),
I would be glad to see a stammtische work here. I'm not ready to take the
lead myself at the moment, but that won't be a problem since it's
self-organizing ;) .
Susan (fondly waving back), the stammtische (I no longer know if 'm spelling
it correctly) is a German expression meaning "tribe table," which might
translate as "salon." Basically it's an evening in a bar or restaurant with
a bunch of folks interested in getting together with OS principles guiding
the evening - whatever people want to talk about gets talked about, in a
group or multiple groups. There's the OS connection, of course.
I don't know how different NY really is from other cities, but I would amend
Michael's helpful points to say that one week isn't enough advance notice
(but a good time for a reminder). And, recognizing Michael is speaking
American as a second language (if I'm not mistaken), I might also check to
see if the owner is a female before following his suggestions to the letter
;) .
-Laurence
Hello NYC OSers, many of whom I know and waive to fondly, and greetings to
> you too Esther. We look forward to your arrival. What the heck is a
> stammtisch anyway?
> Susan
>
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> On May 13, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Scott Gassman wrote:
>
> Michael,
> Thank you for feeding the idea of a NYC stammtisch
> and providing what it takes..
> The idea appears to be taking on a life of it's own and
> snowballing.
> I will think about what you have shared.
>
> Scott
> --
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpanne at boscop.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Scott,
>> I love the os stammtisch in Berlin and everywhere.
>> Here some pointers from a stammtisch-pro:
>>
>> 1. The stammtisch is first of all, for you yourself, yes
>>
>> 2. So, pick your favorite place (restaurant, Bar, whatever) where you like
>> the food and drinks and invite everyone (you might try the first Monday
>> evening of every odd month)and go there. If nobody comes, you had a great
>> time at your favorite haunt and some unobstructed time for you
>>
>> 3. But, alas, people will show up because they like the idea of meeting
>> you, talking (maybe) about open space and coming to an event that has only a
>> starting time
>>
>> 4. Talk to the owner (of course, you know him well) and advise him that
>> you are coming and that there may be some more people, he will like that
>>
>> 5. Send an email about a week before the stammtisch inviting people to
>> join ... this mail should go to the list so that people passing through NY
>> will drop in and, it should go to all New Yorkers (if all of you guys in New
>> York include yourself in the worldmap, it will be a breeze for Scott to
>> invite you
>> (By the way, at this point, 51 of the thousands of osworkers in the USA
>> have included themselves in the worldmap, that makes for an average of one
>> per State, a grand start! %1 is exactly the number of people listed for
>> Berlin...about 20 to 40 % of them show up at the stammtisch.
>> (Here is the link for including yourself
>>
>>> http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/index.php?id=198
>>>
>>
>> If you go to the homepage of the map
>>
>>> http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/
>>>
>>
>> and click on Menu and then search and enter New York you will see 3
>> colleagues listed)
>>
>> 6. Send out a note to the list after the stammtisch and report the great
>> stuff that happened there
>>
>> Have a grand time with your stammtisch which is the most localized OSonOS
>> in your neighborhood...especially when you cant go to the regional, national
>> or evern worldwide events.
>>
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> mmp
>>
>>
>>
>> Scott Gassman wrote:
>>
>>> Laurence,
>>> Possibly with Esther's NY arrival, we could try again to initiate a
>>> stammtische.
>>>
>>> A thought for interested NY OS folks.
>>>
>>> Who else would be interested here in the NY area?
>>>
>>> Scott Gassman
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Laurence Berg <laurenceberg at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Esther,
>>>>
>>>> I'm one of the NYers who's in the OS world. (I know someone at the
>>>> Canadian mission, too.) Feel free to get in touch.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I once tried to initiate a stammtische with some others and
>>>> it
>>>> didn't get off the ground here. NY is an odd place.
>>>>
>>>> -Laurence
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> Hi Susan,
>
> Thanks for the welcome. "Stammtisch" is the german word for that table in a
> restaurant or pub where the regulars sit at for a beer or something after
> work or at night. In rural Germany, there is always (or was when I lived
> there 15 years ago) a table marked "stammtisch", pretty much reserved for
> these regulars. So they know that when they come, they'll meet other
> regulars and have a place to sit and talk. And as in OS, whoever comes...
> whenever.. Right Michael?
>
> Here's a copy/paste of an explanation of OS Stammtisch Michael provided a
> few months back :
>
> "A stammtisch is a regular gathering at a regular time (like every Tuesday
> evening, or once a month or, as is the case with the os stammtische around
> the planet, every Monday of every odd month at 7pm)where people interested
> in a particular aspect of life, as for instance open space, gather for beer
> (other drinks are perfectly ok) and food as everyone wishes and talk with
> each other about whatever is on top of your mind regarding open space (in a
> broader sense). People come and go as they find useful, some arrive at 7 pm
> (I usually even earlier to secure a table and talk to the people in the
> pub), some as late as 11 pm and it will usually last until well past
> midnight. No agenda, lots of energy. Last stammtisch in Berlin several
> people came because they needed work (in os, of course), well, they in fact
> found others that were looking for help. So its networking, creating
> collaboration, new ideas are born, people bring stuff for each other to look
> at (pictures, a couple of books of proceedings from recent open spaces, a
> bottle of brandy from Kyiv, there are always a couple of laptops to show
> things to each other and to write an email to another stammtisch lets say in
> Kyiv or Budapest..).
> Often, there are also visitors from other countries passing through Berlin
> that are real open space stammtisch addicts, they have heard of the Berlin
> one and join. So its international, too."
>
> Here in Montreal, we usually gather around 6 pm,have a beer, dinner, talk,
> and people leave around 8:30 or 9:00.
>
> Maybe we will meet at a future NY stammtisch :-)
>
> Esther M.
>
>
> At 12:16 2008-05-13, you wrote:
>
> Hello NYC OSers, many of whom I know and waive to fondly, and greetings to
> you too Esther. We look forward to your arrival. What the heck is a
> stammtisch anyway?
>
> Susan
>
>
> *Susan W. Coleman
> *
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> Collaborative Change Strategies
> * *
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>
> On May 13, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Scott Gassman wrote:
>
> Michael,
>
> Thank you for feeding the idea of a NYC stammtisch
> and providing what it takes..
> The idea appears to be taking on a life of it's own and
> snowballing.
> I will think about what you have shared.
>
> Scott
> --
> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpanne at boscop.org>
> wrote:
> Dear Scott,
> I love the os stammtisch in Berlin and everywhere.
> Here some pointers from a stammtisch-pro:
>
> 1. The stammtisch is first of all, for you yourself, yes
>
> 2. So, pick your favorite place (restaurant, Bar, whatever) where you like
> the food and drinks and invite everyone (you might try the first Monday
> evening of every odd month)and go there. If nobody comes, you had a great
> time at your favorite haunt and some unobstructed time for you
>
> 3. But, alas, people will show up because they like the idea of meeting
> you, talking (maybe) about open space and coming to an event that has only a
> starting time
>
> 4. Talk to the owner (of course, you know him well) and advise him that you
> are coming and that there may be some more people, he will like that
>
> 5. Send an email about a week before the stammtisch inviting people to join
> ... this mail should go to the list so that people passing through NY will
> drop in and, it should go to all New Yorkers (if all of you guys in New York
> include yourself in the worldmap, it will be a breeze for Scott to invite
> you
> (By the way, at this point, 51 of the thousands of osworkers in the USA
> have included themselves in the worldmap, that makes for an average of one
> per State, a grand start! %1 is exactly the number of people listed for
> Berlin...about 20 to 40 % of them show up at the stammtisch.
> (Here is the link for including yourself
> http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/index.php?id=198
>
>
> If you go to the homepage of the map
> http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/
>
>
> and click on Menu and then search and enter New York you will see 3
> colleagues listed)
>
> 6. Send out a note to the list after the stammtisch and report the great
> stuff that happened there
>
> Have a grand time with your stammtisch which is the most localized OSonOS
> in your neighborhood...especially when you cant go to the regional, national
> or evern worldwide events.
>
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
>
>
> Scott Gassman wrote:
> Laurence,
> Possibly with Esther's NY arrival, we could try again to initiate a
> stammtische.
>
> A thought for interested NY OS folks.
>
> Who else would be interested here in the NY area?
>
> Scott Gassman
>
>
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Laurence Berg <laurenceberg at gmail.com >
> wrote:
>
> Hi Esther,
>
> I'm one of the NYers who's in the OS world. (I know someone at the
> Canadian mission, too.) Feel free to get in touch.
>
> By the way, I once tried to initiate a stammtische with some others and it
> didn't get off the ground here. NY is an odd place.
>
> -Laurence
>
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> Raffi Aftandelian wrote:
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>> Jack, thanks much for starting this conversation and thank you Arno and
>> Wendy for your upper-middle browed catmatism. In this same vain, i'd like
>> to
>> off-err sum moor thoughts on Open Spay(s): purr-sion deux paw o.
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> Right, Esther M., I know you will have a great time at the NY
> Stammtisch...its space and time for just about anything to happen, even a
> discussion on OS 2.f or the best recipes for dips for fingerfood for Open
> Space buffets, classical, 2.f style or whatever
> Greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> Communications Esther Matte wrote:
>
>> Hi Susan,
>>
>> Thanks for the welcome. "Stammtisch" is the german word for that table in
>> a restaurant or pub where the regulars sit at for a beer or something after
>> work or at night. In rural Germany, there is always (or was when I lived
>> there 15 years ago) a table marked "stammtisch", pretty much reserved for
>> these regulars. So they know that when they come, they'll meet other
>> regulars and have a place to sit and talk. And as in OS, whoever comes...
>> whenever.. Right Michael?
>>
>> Here's a copy/paste of an explanation of OS Stammtisch Michael provided a
>> few months back :
>>
>> "A stammtisch is a regular gathering at a regular time (like every Tuesday
>> evening, or once a month or, as is the case with the os stammtische around
>> the planet, every Monday of every odd month at 7pm)where people interested
>> in a particular aspect of life, as for instance open space, gather for beer
>> (other drinks are perfectly ok) and food as everyone wishes and talk with
>> each other about whatever is on top of your mind regarding open space (in a
>> broader sense). People come and go as they find useful, some arrive at 7 pm
>> (I usually even earlier to secure a table and talk to the people in the
>> pub), some as late as 11 pm and it will usually last until well past
>> midnight. No agenda, lots of energy. Last stammtisch in Berlin several
>> people came because they needed work (in os, of course), well, they in fact
>> found others that were looking for help. So its networking, creating
>> collaboration, new ideas are born, people bring stuff for each other to look
>> at (pictures, a couple of books of proceedings from recent open spaces, a
>> bottle of brandy from Kyiv, there are always a couple of laptops to show
>> things to each other and to write an email to another stammtisch lets say in
>> Kyiv or Budapest..).
>> Often, there are also visitors from other countries passing through Berlin
>> that are real open space stammtisch addicts, they have heard of the Berlin
>> one and join. So its international, too."
>>
>> Here in Montreal, we usually gather around 6 pm,have a beer, dinner, talk,
>> and people leave around 8:30 or 9:00.
>>
>> Maybe we will meet at a future NY stammtisch :-)
>>
>> Esther M.
>>
>>
>> At 12:16 2008-05-13, you wrote:
>>
>>> Hello NYC OSers, many of whom I know and waive to fondly, and greetings
>>> to you too Esther. We look forward to your arrival. What the heck is a
>>> stammtisch anyway?
>>>
>>> Susan
>>>
>>>
>>> Susan W. Coleman
>>>
>>> Coleman Raider International
>>> --Negotiation & Conflict Resolution, Coaching,
>>> Collaborative Change Strategies
>>>
>>> Susan W. Coleman, J.D., M.P.A.
>>> Tel: (845) 424 8300
>>> Cellular: (845) 661 0350
>>> Fax: (845) 424 3853
>>> Email: <mailto:sc at colemanraider.com>sc at colemanraider.com
>>> Webpage: <http://www.colemanraider.com/>http://www.colemanraider.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 13, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Scott Gassman wrote:
>>>
>>> Michael,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for feeding the idea of a NYC stammtisch
>>>> and providing what it takes..
>>>> The idea appears to be taking on a life of it's own and
>>>> snowballing.
>>>> I will think about what you have shared.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>> --
>>>> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Michael M Pannwitz <<mailto:
>>>> mmpanne at boscop.org>mmpanne at boscop.org> wrote:
>>>> Dear Scott,
>>>> I love the os stammtisch in Berlin and everywhere.
>>>> Here some pointers from a stammtisch-pro:
>>>>
>>>> 1. The stammtisch is first of all, for you yourself, yes
>>>>
>>>> 2. So, pick your favorite place (restaurant, Bar, whatever) where you
>>>> like the food and drinks and invite everyone (you might try the first Monday
>>>> evening of every odd month)and go there. If nobody comes, you had a great
>>>> time at your favorite haunt and some unobstructed time for you
>>>>
>>>> 3. But, alas, people will show up because they like the idea of meeting
>>>> you, talking (maybe) about open space and coming to an event that has only a
>>>> starting time
>>>>
>>>> 4. Talk to the owner (of course, you know him well) and advise him that
>>>> you are coming and that there may be some more people, he will like that
>>>>
>>>> 5. Send an email about a week before the stammtisch inviting people to
>>>> join ... this mail should go to the list so that people passing through NY
>>>> will drop in and, it should go to all New Yorkers (if all of you guys in New
>>>> York include yourself in the worldmap, it will be a breeze for Scott to
>>>> invite you
>>>> (By the way, at this point, 51 of the thousands of osworkers in the USA
>>>> have included themselves in the worldmap, that makes for an average of one
>>>> per State, a grand start! %1 is exactly the number of people listed for
>>>> Berlin...about 20 to 40 % of them show up at the stammtisch.
>>>> (Here is the link for including yourself
>>>> <http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/index.php?id=198>
>>>> http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/index.php?id=198
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you go to the homepage of the map
>>>> <http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/>http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and click on Menu and then search and enter New York you will see 3
>>>> colleagues listed)
>>>>
>>>> 6. Send out a note to the list after the stammtisch and report the great
>>>> stuff that happened there
>>>>
>>>> Have a grand time with your stammtisch which is the most localized
>>>> OSonOS in your neighborhood...especially when you cant go to the regional,
>>>> national or evern worldwide events.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings from Berlin
>>>> mmp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Scott Gassman wrote:
>>>> Laurence,
>>>> Possibly with Esther's NY arrival, we could try again to initiate a
>>>> stammtische.
>>>>
>>>> A thought for interested NY OS folks.
>>>>
>>>> Who else would be interested here in the NY area?
>>>>
>>>> Scott Gassman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Laurence Berg <<mailto:
>>>> laurenceberg at gmail.com>laurenceberg at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Esther,
>>>>
>>>> I'm one of the NYers who's in the OS world. (I know someone at the
>>>> Canadian mission, too.) Feel free to get in touch.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I once tried to initiate a stammtische with some others and
>>>> it
>>>> didn't get off the ground here. NY is an odd place.
>>>>
>>>> -Laurence
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> Training - Facilitation - Assessment * *
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>
> Fresh back from a little over a month in Moscow and St. Petersburg working
> with OST and related approaches, I'd like to share a little of my
> impressions and questions. Overall, not sure there is much here to add to
> the larger Open Space conversation, but I feel it is important to share
> nonetheless. I'm also sharing here not just on OST but related approaches
> in
> part because I think all of this work spoke to creating and experiencing
> the
> larger Open Space of life.
>
> I arrived in Moscow the evening of April 2nd and the morning of April 4th
> conducted a one day Introduction to Dynamic Facilitation (DF) workshop for
> a
> group of corporate trainers at the invitation of a trainer development club
> called the Mark Kukushkin Open Trainer University (otumka.ru) I've only
> been
> working with DF for six months and most of that experience has been one on
> one phone work. So, it was definitely a risk to go ahead and offer this
> workshop to a group of 15.
>
> It helped to frame this workshop as an experiment and also to invite people
> to set aside all their knowledge about training and learning aside for the
> purposes of the workshop. Even though- as I expected- DF did not deliver a
> breakthrough or aha!- 1 ¼ hours is just not enough time in the space of a
> daylong workshop to experience that- the short time they had to practice
> and
> also to reflect on the process. Open Space principles using a Whole Person
> Process Facilitation container
> (http://genuinecontact.net/mtg_whole_person.html) informed the design for
> this and all the other workshops conducted during my stay. By the end of
> the
> workshop even the most skeptical saw value in the approach and seemed
> interested in trying it out even (or especially?) as it challenged most
> directly the whole Change Management paradigm.
>
> Inspired by the example of Thomas Herrmann, I'll be following up with this
> (and the other groups) 4-6 months from now to evaluate the effectiveness of
> these workshops.
>
> April 5th was a full day Introduction to OST workshop at the same trainer
> club, with a few of the same participants, altogether a group of 15. Olga
> Zolotareva, previously a corporate trainer with Beeline, one of Russia's
> Big
> Three cellular providers, co-held the space within the workshop for a 4
> hour
> OST meeting "My growth edges as a trainer/coach: issues and opportunities."
> Among the 10 topics:
>
> "How to win a corporate tender"
> "What benefit is there in corporate learning programs?"
> "The coach/trainer at the summit: what does she/he think about?"
> "Different applications of OST"
> "Knowledge management in trainings"
>
> A mini-non-convergence was held – if I'm using the term correctly- where
> participants were invited to develop action plans, announce a new topic, or
> further discuss a previously announced topic.
>
> This was perhaps a first time in my experience in really being able to
> discern what words in explaining how they would be invited to work would
> best serve the group. And special attention was given to reduce the Magic
> Charm Effect in part by pausing and having silence in the opening only so
> much and not to a point that could cause discomfort among the participants.
> It has really helped to listen over and over to disk one of "Understanding
> Open Space" and to hear how Harrison subtly invites the shamanic in the
> opening..
>
> Part of what was emphasized in the context of this OST meeting was:
> a) an invitation to consider what personal successes they were embarrassed
> of- a way of considering perhaps that sometimes success is really a time
> when one held back and didn't take the full risk and did something well but
> not terribly differently from before; in other words control was not let go
> of
>
> b) an invitation to consider which personal oops, failures, catastrophes,
> and fiascoes they have to celebrate as delicious indications of growth
> opportunities, road signs which scream loudly "take risk here!"
>
> This seasoning in the opening really seemed to help the group to get
> straight to work as if they'd taken part in OST many times before (they
> hadn't).
>
> The overall design for the OST one day learning workshop was:
>
> Introductions (a process-facilitated "transfer-in" using illegally imported
> into Russia natural objects from San Diego, Florida, and Iran. Participants
> took an object from the center and were invited to ask themselves what the
> object told them about what brought them to the workshop)
>
> A little about the workshop- with an invitation to set aside everything
> they
> know about training, facilitation for the duration of the workshop to
> maximize their own benefit from the workshop
>
> Hopes and fears- work in groups of four on identifying their own hopes and
> fears regarding the workshop
>
> A break
>
> Then the 4 hour OST meeting
>
> Another short break
>
> And then five questions were posted around the room – drawing on the core
> questions, as I understand them, in the Genuine Contact Program's
> three-four
> day OST learning workshop -
>
> - what do the participants, sponsor, facilitator feel during an OST
> meeting?
> - what is OST?
> - what are key elements of OST's form?
> - what are key elements of OST's essence?
> - what does the facilitator do to prepare the sponsor, facilitate the OST
> meeting, and to follow up?
>
> And the participants were invited work with these 5 "sessions"
> simultaneously for 30 minutes as if in OS. They were also invited to
> announce any other sessions, which they did. Time was set aside to answer
> any questions. And I did a little presentation about when to use/not use
> OST, working with the sponsor, and the energetics of walking the circle
> (sorry, Jack!, no meditations on the romantic quality of a Brighton bicycle
> horn!) with a little bit of practice with the whole group in the last.
>
> At the end of the workshop, I invited anyone who cared to to step forward
> to
> conduct a week later a follow up meeting and a further meeting 4-6 months
> down the line. Doesn't look like it will happen.
>
> It was really refreshing to see how easily people for the most part took to
> this kind of facilitation and to see how much ground could be covered in
> the
> space of a day.
>
> Overall, it was really palpable how in the space of less than a year and a
> half- since the last time I was in Russia, living there- how time has
> speeded up even more and space is even more compressed. On the one hand
> there seems to be less space for grassroot initiatives and social change –
> what with the continuing building by the Kremlin of the so-called Power
> Vertical-, and on the other hand the soil, air, water seem even riper than
> ever for Open Space.
>
> People just took to it like ducks to water, even if at the outset of the
> workshop there was this energy of people sitting with crossed arms with a
> look that seemed to say "What does this American have to show us?!"
>
> The following day Sergei Shchepilov and Anna Bernikova who some met at the
> Kiev or Moscow WOSonOS held the space for a daylong stammtische/mentoring
> circle for about ten of us in Moscow. The romantic process-oriented in me
> was magically charmed by the use of the jaw harp and a Russian jerry-rigged
> version of the Tibetan temple bells- Sergei took the "tongue" out of two
> Valdai bells and strung them together. Not sure there were any specific
> business results from our gathering but it was great fun, OS storytelling,
> and conversation held in a perfect space: an nonprofit art gallery
> displaying paintings by children with disabilities.
>
> A little over a week later conducted an 1.5 hour storytelling workshop at
> Intertraining's annual gathering of trainers and consultants. Just about
> everyone – a group of 13- was surprised –almost uncomfortably so- how deep
> a
> group of people who had never met before can get with a simple storytelling
> circle. So many layers of meaning, so many questions elicited from the
> stories told.
>
> And before heading off for St. Petersburg, I conducted another daylong
> workshop, an Introduction to Dynamic Facilitation with a nonprofit
> organization that invited me to do an OST strategic planning session a
> number of years ago and now was regularly using OST for its own strategic
> planning and programmatic work. Aside from yet another set of aha's! from
> people participating in the DF workshop it was exciting to hear that they
> were now interested in exploring becoming a Conscious Open Space
> Organization. Indeed, when they first experienced OST, they exclaimed "Why,
> we've always been in Open Space!" Looking forward to following up with them
> on this.
>
> The Coaching Institute (coachinstitute.ru) in St. Petersburg had invited
> me
> to conduct a three day OST learning workshop (as part of the Genuine
> Contact
> Program). Previously, on the list I'd mentioned their bimonthly initiative
> in partnership with other organizations, the Director's Club
> (directorclub.ru), a three hour OST meeting for CEO's of St.
> Petersburg-based companies. Talking with them before, during, and after the
> workshop, I really came to appreciate and admire their work deeply.
>
> The coaching they teach in their two year program is really something at
> the
> nexus of coaching, psychotherapy, and facilitative leadership adapting
> Western approaches to a Russian context. The Law of Two Feet – "the courage
> to express what you want" in their parlance- carries through everything
> they
> do. And I felt privileged to be conducting this learning workshop with one
> of four organizations I have worked with in Russia that make an intimate
> connection between Spirit and Practice.
>
> The structure of the workshop was essentially working with the same
> questions as in the one day workshop, of course in more depth. Altogether
> there were about 15 participants, including from the North Caucasus and
> Siberia, about 1/3 were from the Coaching Institute, 2/3 were from other
> (commercial) organizations or were representing themselves. Surprisingly,
> some of the workshop participants had never even heard of OST before and
> yet
> based on the workshop announcement had elected to come from thousands of
> miles away!
>
> As part of the workshop there was a four hour OST meeting on the topic of
> "Creating Healthy Organizations: Issues and Opportunities."
>
> Seven topics were announced, and there was again a non-convergence. Among
> the topics:
>
> Russian business: Is it healthy? And to what extent?
> The health of the CEO and the health of the organization- what is the
> connection?
> Using training and psychological workshops to introduce corporate standards
> into a dealer network
> Ambitious people, Grand goals: How can organizations avoid limiting them
> and
> rather use them fully?
> The consultant's role in organizational renewal: what is he/she truly
> capable of?
>
> Highlights for the participants included the Whole Person Process design of
> the workshop. Participants remarked on the surprising spaciousness of the
> learning experience throughout and how the learning process seemed to be
> markedly different from a typical training.
>
> As a group we did return to and talk about the original invitation for the
> workshop. Initially, people who'd signed for the workshop had been invited
> to co-design and co-lead the whole workshop, including the prep work and
> follow-up work connected with it.
>
> Seeing as this was the first time I'd ever extended such an invitation for
> a
> workshop and that the group hadn't apparently had prior experience, this
> did
> not happen. What did happen, however, was planting of seeds and my sharing
> some of my beliefs with the group that anytime we are in a learning
> situation where there is a set program – even if it can be changed – the
> open space for wonder and imagination, for giving birth to practical,
> applicable situational knowledge is rather limited. That the deep learning
> happens where the formal workshop leaders and participants are partners in
> developing the workshop and its implementation and follow up. Who knows,
> maybe next time the group might be able and willing to respond to this kind
> of invitation?
>
> Speaking of invitation, the personal practice of invitation and inviting
> leadership (as elaborated by Chris Corrigan and Michael Herman) really had
> people buzzing. It felt really liberating that they were being invited
> throughout to engage in whatever was planned, no need to "manage" the
> participants!
>
> The Coaching Institute people really seem to take a ball and run with it.
> Very curious as to where they take this further.
>
> The group was invited to join the larger OS and Genuine Contact community
> and looking forward to seeing them on an OSlist or a WOSonOS near you!
>
> The following day I had the pleasure of working again with the Soldiers
> Mothers of St. Petersburg
> (http://www.soldiersmothers.ru/pages/english/presentation.htm) A number of
> years ago I shared a little about working with them in OST. This time I
> introduced them to Dynamic Facilitation, working with internal
> organizational issues. One of the aha's from our two days of work together
> was that in this highly turbulent time the main thing the organization
> should focus on at a minimum is just to remain open, continue operating.
> The
> organization just by its existence plants many seeds and the day will come
> when the Power Vertical will just shift by itself into the Power
> Horizontal.
>
> We also continued an earlier conversation on how the organization might
> potentially co-organize a series of public conversations using OST with
> "problem" military bases – where a culture of torture and forced
> prostitution of recruits is especially pronounced- on how they can work
> together. This is not entirely a science fiction notion, it is doable.
> Ideas, thoughts on moving this concept forward are welcome!
>
> And lastly in the oops! department – and frankly, I share this to also
> invite others on the list to share their oops!, however small; I think we
> learn more from each others' boo-boos more than from our glorious triumphs,
> inspiring as they may be-: in doing a one day strategic session toward the
> end of my stay with one organization, with a group of ten, I made a grave
> error: one of the participants was there with her two year old. I'd seen
> the
> child beforehand but it had not occurred to me to give thought to how the
> child might invite an additional dimension during the opening. Needless to
> say, during the opening, the child fell quite in love with the temple bells
> (Magick charms again?) and dragged them across the floor making quite a
> ruckus. It was a very messy, unclear opening for many of the participants.
> And on top of that, many said they did not feel like I'd held the space.
> They'd wished that I'd been in full view even if I was not party to the
> conversations. And yet, my experience was that I was breathing with them
> the
> whole time, sitting in the closest room, thinking of the group, and making
> sure that I would not be too close to hear their conversations! Indeed, the
> sponsor said he felt cheated. It was important to the group after the
> closing just for me to hear them out, and for me to honestly acknowledge
> where I felt I'd come up short…and where I hadn't. And to honestly and
> openly express my sadness about how things had not worked out as wished
> for.
>
> I don't think that's the whole story, because others expressed privately
> that this was a very productive meeting, with a chance to really get real
> in
> a way that does not usually happen in their business meetings. Another
> remarked that the meeting took their organization to a qualitatively
> different level. Still much to chew on here!
>
> At the Moscow WOSonOS in 2006 Birgitt (Williams) shared how she was – in
> her
> words- probably a slow learner as she found something new in OST and OS
> every time she invited Harrison for a learning workshop in Canada for seven
> years in a row. Indeed, my key learning from that WOSonOS is that I know
> (next to?) nothing about OS/OST.
>
> I continue to make these huge, basic mistakes. If OS and OST has taught me
> anything, however, it has helped me to be more forgiving of myself and
> others.
>
> One of the personally satisfying things to hear in the OST learning
> workshop
> was a sense from the participants that the workshop leader really seemed to
> live the principles of the approach. As I continue to wonder if I have a
> personal practice of OS and what it looks like, it's heartening to hear
> such
> feedback for the first time!
>
> Thank you for reading and letting me share this story. And continuing to
> marvel and enjoy being part of the OS/GC communities.
>
> In appreciative granularity,
> raffi
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> Dear Jack and all,
>
> Putting the Discordian funny bone aside, it's great to have a conversation
> about an updated version of OS, dogmatism, and the like.
>
> An Open Space Establishment is probably not an oxymoron for one good
> reason:
> in any community - even in an ostensibly highly inclusive one- there is a
> mainstream and a margin. Who is in the mainstream and in the margin is
> another question and what purpose it would serve to even identify the two
> is
> not clear.
>
> The list from your micro-site of OS 1.0 "nevers" and "always" is a fair
> one,
> *and* just about all of those pieces of dogma have long been challenged
> here.
>
> Yes, OST is a very forgiving and adaptable approach *and* I wonder what is
> lost energetically when more and more of those elements of form are tossed.
>
> I don't necessarily feel comfortable using tibetan temple bells, but I have
> yet to come across something that produces a sound that invites a similar
> level of presence. Yes, you don't *need* to do something to invite presence
> in the beginning, *and* the quality of space created when presence is
> invited is definitely different (preferable?).
>
> Perhaps part of the question is how to minimize an experience of the
> culturally dissonant mystical and yet invite presence?
>
> If there were an OS 2.0 - and I'm curious what you might come up with-
> perhaps it would have less to do with the Internet, web-based social
> networking and possibly more to do with answering the question(s):
>
> How do we create permanent physical spaces that matter? How do we create
> third places that matter? How do we create permanent community spaces for
> people to talk about what is really important?
>
> The Internet, Web 2.0 are great and I think they aid us in bringing more of
> the head into the complex inter-human collaborative equation, not sure how
> well our bodies, hearts, and Spirits are enabled or engaged with this
> technology...
>
> And perhaps those questions about creating physical space just might make
> it
> to a Village Marketplace at a WOSonOS near you...
>
> appreciatively,
> raffi
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> Hey New Yorkers...
>
> I'll be in New York in the next couple of weeks as well, and although I'm
> not making any promises about getting together, there is a little group of
> folks I know and have been working with who might be interested in an NYC
> Stammtisch.
>
> So let's keep in touch!
>
> Chris
>
> On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Michael M Pannwitz <mmpanne at boscop.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Right, Esther M., I know you will have a great time at the NY
>> Stammtisch...its space and time for just about anything to happen, even a
>> discussion on OS 2.f or the best recipes for dips for fingerfood for Open
>> Space buffets, classical, 2.f style or whatever
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> mmp
>>
>> Communications Esther Matte wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Susan,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the welcome. "Stammtisch" is the german word for that table in
>>> a restaurant or pub where the regulars sit at for a beer or something after
>>> work or at night. In rural Germany, there is always (or was when I lived
>>> there 15 years ago) a table marked "stammtisch", pretty much reserved for
>>> these regulars. So they know that when they come, they'll meet other
>>> regulars and have a place to sit and talk. And as in OS, whoever comes...
>>> whenever.. Right Michael?
>>>
>>> Here's a copy/paste of an explanation of OS Stammtisch Michael provided a
>>> few months back :
>>>
>>> "A stammtisch is a regular gathering at a regular time (like every
>>> Tuesday evening, or once a month or, as is the case with the os stammtische
>>> around the planet, every Monday of every odd month at 7pm)where people
>>> interested in a particular aspect of life, as for instance open space,
>>> gather for beer (other drinks are perfectly ok) and food as everyone wishes
>>> and talk with each other about whatever is on top of your mind regarding
>>> open space (in a broader sense). People come and go as they find useful,
>>> some arrive at 7 pm (I usually even earlier to secure a table and talk to
>>> the people in the pub), some as late as 11 pm and it will usually last until
>>> well past midnight. No agenda, lots of energy. Last stammtisch in Berlin
>>> several people came because they needed work (in os, of course), well, they
>>> in fact found others that were looking for help. So its networking, creating
>>> collaboration, new ideas are born, people bring stuff for each other to look
>>> at (pictures, a couple of books of proceedings from recent open spaces, a
>>> bottle of brandy from Kyiv, there are always a couple of laptops to show
>>> things to each other and to write an email to another stammtisch lets say in
>>> Kyiv or Budapest..).
>>> Often, there are also visitors from other countries passing through
>>> Berlin that are real open space stammtisch addicts, they have heard of the
>>> Berlin one and join. So its international, too."
>>>
>>> Here in Montreal, we usually gather around 6 pm,have a beer, dinner,
>>> talk, and people leave around 8:30 or 9:00.
>>>
>>> Maybe we will meet at a future NY stammtisch :-)
>>>
>>> Esther M.
>>>
>>>
>>> At 12:16 2008-05-13, you wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello NYC OSers, many of whom I know and waive to fondly, and greetings
>>>> to you too Esther. We look forward to your arrival. What the heck is a
>>>> stammtisch anyway?
>>>>
>>>> Susan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Susan W. Coleman
>>>>
>>>> Coleman Raider International
>>>> --Negotiation & Conflict Resolution, Coaching,
>>>> Collaborative Change Strategies
>>>>
>>>> Susan W. Coleman, J.D., M.P.A.
>>>> Tel: (845) 424 8300
>>>> Cellular: (845) 661 0350
>>>> Fax: (845) 424 3853
>>>> Email: <mailto:sc at colemanraider.com>sc at colemanraider.com
>>>> Webpage: <http://www.colemanraider.com/>
>>>> http://www.colemanraider.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 13, 2008, at 12:06 AM, Scott Gassman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Michael,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for feeding the idea of a NYC stammtisch
>>>>> and providing what it takes..
>>>>> The idea appears to be taking on a life of it's own and
>>>>> snowballing.
>>>>> I will think about what you have shared.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> --
>>>>> On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Michael M Pannwitz <<mailto:
>>>>> mmpanne at boscop.org>mmpanne at boscop.org> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Scott,
>>>>> I love the os stammtisch in Berlin and everywhere.
>>>>> Here some pointers from a stammtisch-pro:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The stammtisch is first of all, for you yourself, yes
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. So, pick your favorite place (restaurant, Bar, whatever) where you
>>>>> like the food and drinks and invite everyone (you might try the first Monday
>>>>> evening of every odd month)and go there. If nobody comes, you had a great
>>>>> time at your favorite haunt and some unobstructed time for you
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. But, alas, people will show up because they like the idea of meeting
>>>>> you, talking (maybe) about open space and coming to an event that has only a
>>>>> starting time
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Talk to the owner (of course, you know him well) and advise him that
>>>>> you are coming and that there may be some more people, he will like that
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Send an email about a week before the stammtisch inviting people to
>>>>> join ... this mail should go to the list so that people passing through NY
>>>>> will drop in and, it should go to all New Yorkers (if all of you guys in New
>>>>> York include yourself in the worldmap, it will be a breeze for Scott to
>>>>> invite you
>>>>> (By the way, at this point, 51 of the thousands of osworkers in the USA
>>>>> have included themselves in the worldmap, that makes for an average of one
>>>>> per State, a grand start! %1 is exactly the number of people listed for
>>>>> Berlin...about 20 to 40 % of them show up at the stammtisch.
>>>>> (Here is the link for including yourself
>>>>> <http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/index.php?id=198>
>>>>> http://www.michaelmpannwitz.de/index.php?id=198
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If you go to the homepage of the map
>>>>> <http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/>http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and click on Menu and then search and enter New York you will see 3
>>>>> colleagues listed)
>>>>>
>>>>> 6. Send out a note to the list after the stammtisch and report the
>>>>> great stuff that happened there
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a grand time with your stammtisch which is the most localized
>>>>> OSonOS in your neighborhood...especially when you cant go to the regional,
>>>>> national or evern worldwide events.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings from Berlin
>>>>> mmp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Gassman wrote:
>>>>> Laurence,
>>>>> Possibly with Esther's NY arrival, we could try again to initiate a
>>>>> stammtische.
>>>>>
>>>>> A thought for interested NY OS folks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Who else would be interested here in the NY area?
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott Gassman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Laurence Berg <<mailto:
>>>>> laurenceberg at gmail.com>laurenceberg at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Esther,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm one of the NYers who's in the OS world. (I know someone at the
>>>>> Canadian mission, too.) Feel free to get in touch.
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way, I once tried to initiate a stammtische with some others and
>>>>> it
>>>>> didn't get off the ground here. NY is an odd place.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Laurence
>>>>>
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