Anyone in New York City?
Esther Ewing
ewingchange at gmail.com
Fri May 9 05:00:00 PDT 2008
Esther:
Greetings and welcome to NYC from another Esther who is also Canadian and
who is also living in NYC. My husband and I have been here since 2001 and I
would love to meet you and to have a "how to get on in NYC" conversation as
well as a "here are some people you should meet" etc.
Please do contact me directly at ewingchange at gmail.com or call me at
212-661-6024 and we'll arrange to meet. You will have lots of fun here.
Best regards
Esther
-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of
Communications Esther Matte
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:12 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Anyone in New York City?
Hello everyone,
Anyone out there in New York City? I’ll be
moving there at the end of June or early July for
a couple of years! I’m following my husband, who
will be working at the Permanent Mission of Canada to the United Nations.
“Be ready to be surprised” we say in OS? Well,
this was a big surprise, and a good one too!
I’ll have a work permit for the States so I’d
welcome any info, tips or ideas that I could
explore to work with NGOs, UN agencies,
governments, the private sector, and communities.
I’m all ears. And if you need a hand in opening space, I’d be happy to help!
I’ll remain a Canadian de facto resident, and I
intend to continue to be active in Quebec and all
over Canada. This is a temporary move and I don’t
want people here to forget I exist! My e-mail
won’t change, and New York is only a few hours
from Montréal. In fact, I plan to keep organizing
the Montréal Cercle Forum ouvert (Stammtisch)
every two months. Our last gatherings were quite inspiring.
Tree, when I saw the PS to your message about
who’s going to WOSonOS, needless to say it
resonated with me! It’s a superb opportunity and
I’m being open to all that can be. I won’t be lap
swimming outdoor all year round, but it’ll
certainly be a wonderful adventure to live and
hopefully open space in the Big Apple and elsewhere.
I hope I can get to San Francisco and meet some
of you in person at the end of July but I’ll have
to decide at the last minute. It will all depend
on how the move goes. I’m confident that it’ll go
just fine. Whoever
Whatever
Whenever
Cheers!
Esther Matte
*
*
==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
------------------------------
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
*
*
==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
------------------------------
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
>From Fri May 9 21:50:44 2008
Message-Id: <FRI.9.MAY.2008.215044.0900.>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 21:50:44 +0900
Reply-To: spark at openspace.kr
To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: Stanley Park <spark at openspace.kr>
Organization: ???????????
Subject: Re: Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma
In-Reply-To: <001d01c8b1c9$5bda86d0$6401a8c0 at harrison>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_047F_01C8B21E.BB699140"
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_047F_01C8B21E.BB699140
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Yes. All of life is open space.
The four principles and the one law simple are its quite simple
acknowledgement for those who would like to embrace life as open space.
It is to liberate. Not to imprison (function of dogma). At least that has
been my experience and my whole being has been vibrating in resonance with
the understanding.
For me, Self-Liberation is my Asperation and Responsibility to be life-long
practiced and to share with those whoever come. OST helps that sharing.
I would wish whatever come out of the "RE: Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the
Dogma" expedition expand CONSTANT NOW for all.
Who knows? One day we might reach an open space community of true
liberation. Yet further practice until it starts to emerge is what's
desired, I think.
Wish the Best to All :-)
spark
_____
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Harrison
Owen
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:40 PM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma
Christine wrote: "Beyond the "meeting" the principles of Open Space guide
our life and work. I find that those who engage in Open Space appreciate
the principles as much as they do the process."
Which might suggest, Christine, that all of life is open space. :-)
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, Maryland 20854
Phone 301-365-2093
Skype hhowen
Open Space Training <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> www.openspaceworld.com
Open Space Institute <http://www.openspaceworld.org/>
www.openspaceworld.org
Personal website <http://www.ho-image.com/> www.ho-image.com
OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives
Visit: <http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html>
www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Christine
Whitney Sanchez
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 1:59 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma
Beyond the "meeting" the principles of Open Space guide our life and work.
I find that those who engage in Open Space appreciate the principles as much
as they do the process.
Christine
Christine Whitney Sanchez
CWS - Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy
2717 E. Mountain Sky Avenue
Phoenix, AZ 85048-8990
480.759.0262
<http://www.christinewhitneysanchez.com/> www.christinewhitneysanchez.com
Please consider the environment before you print this email
_____
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Harrison
Owen
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:09 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma
Omitting mention of the 4 Principles certainly can be done, but I am not
sure that would change things in any substantial way. The reason being that
the Principles are descriptive as opposed to prescriptive. In short, they
will happen anyway, mentioned or not. However, one might reasonably ask -
why state the obvious? My reason has always been that keeping the principles
in mind seems to ease the way in Open Space.
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, Maryland 20854
Phone 301-365-2093
Skype hhowen
Open Space Training <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> www.openspaceworld.com
Open Space Institute <http://www.openspaceworld.org/>
www.openspaceworld.org
Personal website <http://www.ho-image.com/> www.ho-image.com
OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives
Visit: <http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html>
www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
-----Original Message-----
From: OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] On Behalf Of Jack
Martin Leith
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:16 AM
To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma
Hiya Tree.
Thanks for your thoughts on my <Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma> post.
Has OS become arthritic? And are certain Open Space practitioners becoming
dogmatic?
Here in the UK the answer is "yes".
I've been to two gatherings of OS practitioners, both held in London (I was
the co-creator of the first one) and anyone wandering in from the street
would probably have thought they were witnessing a meeting of a religious
group or a cult.
At the second of these gatherings, structured along "Open Space on Open
Space" lines, Paul Levy led a session that challenged the four principles of
Open Space, and was shot down in flames by a number of people.
And a year ago he advertised, on this very email list, a workshop with a
similar theme to the one he and I are running in Brighton next week, and
received from a prominent OS practitioner what ca bes be described as hate
mail.
Thanks for your invitation to share more of my thoughts. You can find plenty
of them here www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=191 and here
www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=192, along with some thoughts expressed by people
beyond this list. The purpose of the 14 May workshop is to discover what
other people think.
My aim (I can't speak for Paul) is not for 'better' space at meetings, but
for a process which is most likely to deliver the desired results. Which
results? Those that will generate as much value as possible for as many
parts of the stakeholder system as possible. I don't see myself as a process
facilitator, but rather as a results facilitator. As in midwifery, a healthy
mother and baby are the first priority. The process has to serve the
results. My personal preference is for natural methods, but I keep forceps
in my back pocket and a scalpel in a glass box, for emergency use only.
If you'd like to take part in the discussion through Skype, the user name is
<rationalmadness> and the timing is 1400 to 1600 British Summer Time, which
is one hour ahead of GMT.
Best wishes,
Jack
Jack Martin Leith
Bristol, United Kingdom
Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541)
Skype: jackmartinleith
Facebook: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=725422325
Facebook group on Open Space Technology:
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7189220743
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith
email: jack at jackmartinleith.com
www.jackmartinleith.com
2008/5/4 Tree Fitzpatrick <therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com>:
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:01 AM, Jack Martin Leith
<jack at jackmartinleith.com> wrote:
Hiya Harrison.
Happy that you're not offended by our undertaking!
Maybe it's different on your side of the pond, but Paul and I have both,
separately, noticed the worrying extent to which OS certainly has become a
dogma over here, sometimes along with the words "Harrison Owen" says. (I
must put my hand up to having done that many times.) We both feel that OS
has become somewhat arthritic, and overdue for a rethink.
Open Space Technology is what it is. Right? How can it become arthritic?
I am challenged by your suggestion but I hope you don't perceive that I am
challenging you. I am genuinely puzzled. I would welcome more of you
thoughts, perhaps some examples of how OS is changing?
How can OS 'become' anything? It is what it is.
I am wondering if, when you suggest that it is due for a 'rethink', perhaps
you are seeing something else, or striving to see something else. Perhaps
you have a (inchoate?) yearning for, please forgive me, 'better' space at
meetings.
I don't have Harrison's depth of experience opening sepace, but I
wholeheartedly agree with what he says about 'second generation open space'.
When in doubt, open more space and if opening more space brings me to a
place of doing nothing, well, for me, then I know I'm doing it right.
What you say is perfectly true, and I agree wholeheartedly ... although I'm
personaly keen on conversation that precipitates action ... but all too
often it's very different on the ground.
Big thanks for your support and encouragement. We'll keep you posted. Steve
the Doc has already signed up for the Skype option.
Very best,
Jack
Jack Martin Leith
Bristol, United Kingdom
Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541)
Skype: jackmartinleith
Facebook: www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=725422325
Facebook group on Open Space Technology:
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7189220743
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith
email: jack at jackmartinleith.com
www.jackmartinleith.com <http://www.jackmartinleith.com/>
2008/4/30 Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net>:
Sounds like a marvelous under taking, but I am not sure about all this
"Dogma" business. Dogma in my lexicon is a whole bunch of stuff that you
have to do/believe. My experience with OST is that it is all about thinking
of one more thing NOT to do - or believe. The end of the line, or indeed the
next iteration, would involve doing nothing at all, and where "belief"
translated into pure experience. You were just "there" in that present
moment being fully what you (we) already were - full, conscious, passionate,
responsible human beings. My experience with most of the 2nd Generation Open
Spaces is that they seem to involve more and different doing and believing.
To my eyes this seems to be going in the wrong direction. But what do I
know? Have fun!!
Harrison
Harrison Owen
7808 River Falls Drive
Potomac, Maryland 20854
Phone 301-365-2093
Skype hhowen
Open Space Training <http://www.openspaceworld.com/> www.openspaceworld.com
Open Space Institute <http://www.openspaceworld.org/>
www.openspaceworld.org
Personal website <http://www.ho-image.com/> www.ho-image.com
OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives
Visit: <http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html>
www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
* * ==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe,
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
--
Love rays,
Tree Fitzpatrick
http://thecultureoflove.blogspot.com/
. . . the great and incalculable grace of love, which says, with Augustine,
"I want you to be," without being able to give any particular reason for
such supreme and unsurpassable affirmation. -- Hannah Arendt
1335 Montecito Ave Apt. 35
Mountain View, California 94043
(650) 967-9260 * *
==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe,
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
* * ==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe,
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
* * ==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe,
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
* * ==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe,
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist *
* ==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe,
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
*
*
==========================================================
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
------------------------------
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
------=_NextPart_000_047F_01C8B21E.BB699140
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dus-ascii">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3314" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE>@font-face {
font-family: Wingdings;
}
@font-face {
font-family: Tahoma;
}
@font-face {
font-family: Calibri;
}
@font-face {
font-family: Lucida Handwriting;
}
@page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in; }
P.MsoNormal {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"
}
LI.MsoNormal {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"
}
DIV.MsoNormal {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"
}
A:link {
COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline
}
SPAN.MsoHyperlink {
COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline
}
A:visited {
COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline
}
SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {
COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline
}
P {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Times New Roman"
}
P.Style1 {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"
}
LI.Style1 {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"
}
DIV.Style1 {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"
}
P.style10 {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"
}
LI.style10 {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"
}
DIV.style10 {
FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"
}
SPAN.emailstyle19 {
FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: red; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial; TEXT-DECORATION: none
}
SPAN.EmailStyle23 {
FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: red; FONT-STYLE: normal; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial; TEXT-DECORATION: none
}
DIV.Section1 {
page: Section1
}
</STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY lang=3DEN-US vLink=3Dblue link=3Dblue>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008>Yes.=20
All of life is open space.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008>The=20
four principles and the one law simple are its quite =
simple acknowledgement=20
for those who would like to embrace life as open =
space.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008>It=20
is to liberate. Not to imprison (function of dogma). At least that has =
been my=20
experience and my whole being has been vibrating in resonance with the=20
understanding.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008>For=20
me, Self-Liberation is my Asperation and Responsibility to be life-long=20
practiced and to share with those whoever come. OST helps that=20
sharing.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008>I=20
would wish whatever come out of the "RE: Open Space 2.0 - =
Beyond=20
the Dogma" expedition expand CONSTANT NOW for all.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008>Who=20
knows? One day we might reach an open space community of true =
liberation. Yet=20
further practice until it starts to emerge is what's desired, I=20
think.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008>Wish=20
the Best to All :-)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008></SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3D굴림 =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D074030312-09052008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3D굴림 size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D074030312-09052008>spark</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Dko dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> OSLIST=20
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Harrison=20
Owen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 09, 2008 8:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Open Space 2.0 - =
Beyond=20
the Dogma<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Christine =
wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DCalibri><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> =
“</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Beyond the "meeting" the =
principles=20
of Open Space guide our life and work. I find that those who =
engage in=20
Open Space appreciate the principles as much as they do the=20
process.”</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Which might suggest, =
Christine, that=20
all of life is open space. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DWingdings><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Harrison=20
Owen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">7808 River=20
Falls Drive</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Potomac,=20
Maryland 20854</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Phone=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">301-365-2093</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Skype=20
hhowen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Open Space=20
Training</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com/"><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.openspaceworld.com</SPAN></FONT></A>=20
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Open Space=20
Institute</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/"><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">www.openspaceworld.org</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Personal=20
website</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ho-image.com/"><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.ho-image.com</SPAN></FONT></A> =
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">OSLIST</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">: To=20
subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the =
archives Visit:=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"><A=20
href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"><FONT=20
face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</SPAN></FONT></A>=
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
OSLIST=20
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">On=20
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Christine Whitney Sanchez<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, May 09, 2008 1:59=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Open Space 2.0 - =
Beyond the=20
Dogma</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri">Beyond=20
the "meeting" the principles of Open Space guide our life and=20
work.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DCalibri =
color=3Dnavy><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> I find that those who =
engage in Open=20
Space appreciate the principles as much as they do the=20
process.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><EM><I><FONT=20
face=3D"Lucida Handwriting" color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida =
Handwriting'">Christine</SPAN></FONT></I></EM></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Christine =
Whitney=20
Sanchez</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><STRONG><B><I><FONT =
face=3DCalibri=20
color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri">CWS=20
- Collaborative Wisdom & Strategy</SPAN></FONT></I></B></STRONG></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri">2717 E.=20
Mountain Sky Avenue</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri">Phoenix,=20
AZ</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT =
face=3DCalibri=20
color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">=20
85048-8990</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri =
color=3Dnavy=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri">480.759.0262</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
color=3Dnavy size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.christinewhitneysanchez.com/"><FONT face=3DCalibri =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Calibri">www.christinewhitneysanchez.com</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT><=
FONT=20
face=3DCalibri color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> =
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><STRONG><B><FONT =
face=3DCalibri=20
color=3Dgreen size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: green; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Please =
consider the=20
environment before you print this email</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center"=20
align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">
<HR align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D3>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in"><B><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT=20
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma"> OSLIST=20
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">On=20
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Harrison Owen<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:09 =
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Open Space 2.0 - =
Beyond the=20
Dogma</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Omitting=20
mention of the 4 Principles certainly can be done, but I am not sure =
that would=20
change things in any substantial way. The reason being that the =
Principles are=20
descriptive as opposed to prescriptive. In short, they will happen =
anyway,=20
mentioned or not. However, one might reasonably ask – why state =
the obvious? My=20
reason has always been that keeping the principles in mind seems to ease =
the way=20
in Open Space.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dred=20
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Harrison</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison=20
Owen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">7808 River =
Falls=20
Drive</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Potomac,=20
Maryland 20854</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone=20
301-365-2093</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Skype=20
hhowen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open Space=20
Training</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com/"><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.openspaceworld.com</SPAN></FONT></A>=20
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open Space=20
Institute</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/"><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">www.openspaceworld.org</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Personal=20
website</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ho-image.com/"><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.ho-image.com</SPAN></FONT></A> =
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">OSLIST: To =
subscribe,=20
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives Visit:=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"><A=20
href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"><FONT=20
face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</SPAN></FONT></A>=
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
OSLIST=20
[mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">On=20
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jack Martin Leith<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:16=20
AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Open Space 2.0 - =
Beyond the=20
Dogma</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hiya =
Tree.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks for your thoughts on my =
<Open=20
Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma> post.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Has OS become =
arthritic? And are=20
certain Open Space practitioners becoming =
dogmatic?</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Here in the UK the answer is=20
"yes".</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I've been to two gatherings of =
OS=20
practitioners, both held in London (I was the co-creator of the first =
one)=20
and anyone wandering in from the street would probably have =
thought=20
they were witnessing a meeting of a religious group or a=20
cult.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At the second of these =
gatherings,=20
structured along "Open Space on Open Space" lines, Paul Levy led a =
session that=20
challenged the four principles of Open Space, and was shot down in =
flames by a=20
number of people.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">And a year ago he advertised, =
on this very=20
email list, a workshop with a similar theme to the one he and I are =
running=20
in Brighton next week, and received from a prominent OS practitioner =
what ca bes=20
be described as hate mail.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks for your invitation to =
share more of=20
my thoughts. You can find plenty of them here <A=20
href=3D"http://www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=3D191">www.jackmartinleith.com/=
?p=3D191</A>=20
and here <A=20
href=3D"http://www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=3D192">www.jackmartinleith.com/=
?p=3D192</A>,=20
along with some thoughts expressed by people beyond this list. The =
purpose of=20
the 14 May workshop is to discover what other people=20
think.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">My aim (I can't speak for =
Paul) is not=20
for 'better' space at meetings, but for a process which is most likely =
to=20
deliver the desired results. Which results? Those that will generate as =
much=20
value as possible for as many parts of the stakeholder system as=20
possible. I don't see myself as a process facilitator, but rather =
as a=20
results facilitator. As in midwifery, a healthy mother and baby are the =
first=20
priority. The process has to serve the results. My personal preference =
is for=20
natural methods, but I keep forceps in my back pocket and a scalpel in a =
glass=20
box, for emergency use only.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If you'd like to take part in =
the=20
discussion through Skype, the user name is <rationalmadness> and =
the=20
timing is 1400 to 1600 British Summer Time, which is one hour ahead of=20
GMT.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Best =
wishes,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jack</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jack Martin Leith<BR>Bristol, =
United=20
Kingdom<BR>Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541)<BR>Skype:=20
jackmartinleith<BR>Facebook: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3D725422325">www.facebook.=
com/profile.php?id=3D725422325</A><BR>Facebook=20
group on Open Space Technology: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D7189220743">www.facebook.=
com/group.php?gid=3D7189220743</A><BR>LinkedIn:=20
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith">www.linkedin.com/in/j=
ackmartinleith</A><BR>email:=20
<A =
href=3D"mailto:jack at jackmartinleith.com">jack at jackmartinleith.com</A><BR>=
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.jackmartinleith.com">www.jackmartinleith.com</A>=20
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"><BR><BR> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2008/5/4 Tree Fitzpatrick =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com">therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.c=
om</A>>:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:01 =
AM, Jack=20
Martin Leith <<A href=3D"mailto:jack at jackmartinleith.com"=20
target=3D_blank>jack at jackmartinleith.com</A>> =
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hiya =
Harrison.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Happy that you're not offended =
by our=20
undertaking!</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Maybe it's different on your =
side of the=20
pond, but Paul and I have both, separately, noticed the worrying extent =
to which=20
OS certainly has become a dogma over here, sometimes along with the =
words=20
"Harrison Owen" says. (I must put my hand up to having done that many =
times.) We=20
both feel that OS has become somewhat arthritic, and overdue for a=20
rethink.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Open Space Technology is =
what it=20
is. Right? How can it become arthritic? I am =
challenged by=20
your suggestion but I hope you don't perceive that I am challenging =
you. I=20
am genuinely puzzled. I would welcome more of you thoughts, =
perhaps some=20
examples of how OS is changing?<BR><BR>How can OS 'become' =
anything? It is=20
what it is.<BR><BR>I am wondering if, when you suggest that it is due =
for a=20
'rethink', perhaps you are seeing something else, or striving to see =
something=20
else. Perhaps you have a (inchoate?) yearning for, please forgive me, =
'better'=20
space at meetings.<BR><BR>I don't have Harrison's depth of experience =
opening=20
sepace, but I wholeheartedly agree with what he says about 'second =
generation=20
open space'. When in doubt, open more space and if opening more =
space=20
brings me to a place of doing nothing, well, for me, then I know I'm =
doing it=20
right.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 6pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt =
4.8pt; BORDER-LEFT: #cccccc 1pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: =
medium none">
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What you say is perfectly =
true, and I=20
agree wholeheartedly ... although I'm personaly keen on conversation =
that=20
precipitates action ... but all too often it's very different on the=20
ground.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Big thanks for your support =
and=20
encouragement. We'll keep you posted. Steve the Doc has already signed =
up for=20
the Skype option.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Very =
best,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jack</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN-RIGHT: =
0in"><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jack =
Martin=20
Leith<BR>Bristol, United Kingdom<BR>Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831=20
840541)<BR>Skype: jackmartinleith<BR>Facebook: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3D725422325"=20
=
target=3D_blank>www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3D725422325</A><BR>Facebo=
ok group=20
on Open Space Technology: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D7189220743"=20
=
target=3D_blank>www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D7189220743</A><BR>Linked=
In: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith"=20
target=3D_blank>www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith</A><BR>email: <A=20
href=3D"mailto:jack at jackmartinleith.com"=20
target=3D_blank>jack at jackmartinleith.com</A><BR><A=20
href=3D"http://www.jackmartinleith.com/"=20
target=3D_blank>www.jackmartinleith.com</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2008/4/30 Harrison Owen =
<<A=20
href=3D"mailto:hhowen at verizon.net" =
target=3D_blank>hhowen at verizon.net</A>>:=20
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: =
medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 6pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5pt =
4.8pt; BORDER-LEFT: #cccccc 1pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: =
medium none">
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"blue">
<DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sounds =
like a=20
marvelous under taking, but I am not sure about all this "Dogma" =
business.=20
Dogma in my lexicon is a whole bunch of stuff that you have to =
do/believe.=20
My experience with OST is that it is all about thinking of one more =
thing=20
NOT to do – or believe. The end of the line, or indeed the =
next iteration,=20
would involve doing nothing at all, and where "belief" translated =
into pure=20
experience. You were just "there" in that present moment being fully =
what=20
you (we) already were – full, conscious, passionate, =
responsible human=20
beings. My experience with most of the 2<SUP>nd</SUP> Generation =
Open Spaces=20
is that they seem to involve more and different doing and believing. =
To my=20
eyes this seems to be going in the wrong direction. But what do I=20
know? Have fun!!</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Harrison</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison=20
Owen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">7808 River =
Falls=20
Drive</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Potomac,=20
Maryland 20854</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone=20
301-365-2093</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Skype=20
hhowen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open Space =
Training</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> =
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com/" target=3D_blank><FONT =
face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">www.openspaceworld.com</SPAN></FONT></A>=20
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open Space =
Institute</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> =
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target=3D_blank><FONT =
face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">www.openspaceworld.org</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Personal=20
website</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> =
<A=20
href=3D"http://www.ho-image.com/" target=3D_blank><FONT =
face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.ho-image.com</SPAN></FONT></A>=20
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" =
align=3Dcenter><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">OSLIST: To =
subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the =
archives Visit:=20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"><A=20
href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"=20
target=3D_blank><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</SPAN></FONT></A>=
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>=
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* *=20
=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D <A=20
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"=20
target=3D_blank>OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A>=20
------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your =
options,=20
view the archives of <A href=3D"mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu" =
target=3D_blank>oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu</A>: <A=20
href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"=20
=
target=3D_blank>http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</A> =
To learn=20
about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist"=20
target=3D_blank>http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</A>=20
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>-- =
<BR>Love=20
rays,<BR>Tree Fitzpatrick<BR><BR><A =
href=3D"http://thecultureoflove.blogspot.com/"=20
target=3D_blank>http://thecultureoflove.blogspot.com/</A><BR><BR>. . . =
the great=20
and incalculable grace of love, which says, with Augustine, "I want you =
to be,"=20
without being able to give any particular reason for such supreme and=20
unsurpassable affirmation. -- Hannah Arendt<BR><BR>1335 Montecito Ave =
Apt.=20
35<BR>Mountain View, California 94043<BR>(650) 967-9260 * *=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D <A=20
href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU"=20
target=3D_blank>OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A> =
------------------------------=20
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of <A=20
href=3D"mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu"=20
target=3D_blank>oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu</A>: <A=20
href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html"=20
target=3D_blank>http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</A> =
To learn=20
about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <A=20
href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist"=20
target=3D_blank>http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</A> =
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New =
Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR clear=3Dall>* *=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To =
subscribe,=20
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of=20
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:=20
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about=20
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: =
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist=20
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* *=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To =
subscribe,=20
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of=20
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:=20
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about=20
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: =
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist=20
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>* *=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To =
subscribe,=20
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of=20
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:=20
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about=20
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: =
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * *=20
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To =
subscribe,=20
unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of=20
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:=20
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about=20
OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:=20
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</BODY></HTML>
*
*
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
------------------------------
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
------=_NextPart_000_047F_01C8B21E.BB699140--
>From Fri May 9 09:10:41 2008
Message-Id: <FRI.9.MAY.2008.091041.0700.>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 09:10:41 -0700
Reply-To: revscott_2000 at yahoo.com
To: OSLIST <OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU>
From: Scott Willard <revscott_2000 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma
In-Reply-To: <001d01c8b1c9$5bda86d0$6401a8c0 at harrison>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<table cellspacing=3D'0' cellpadding=3D'0' border=3D'0' ><tr><td style=3D'f=
ont: inherit;'>Wow, almost sounds like "it works if you work it." Kee=
p coming back...<BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 5/9/08, Harrison Owen <I><hhowen@=
verizon.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net><BR>Sub=
ject: Re: Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma<BR>To: OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTA=
TE.EDU<BR>Date: Friday, May 9, 2008, 4:39 AM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv22798566>
<STYLE>
<!--
_filtered #yiv22798566 {font-family:Wingdings;panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0=
;}
_filtered #yiv22798566 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}
_filtered #yiv22798566 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;=
}
_filtered #yiv22798566 {font-family:"Lucida Handwriting";panose-1:3 1 1 1 =
1 1 1 1 1 1;}
#yiv22798566 /* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal,#yiv22798566 li.MsoNormal,#yiv22798566 div.MsoNormal
=09{margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman";}
#yiv22798566 a:link,#yiv22798566 span.MsoHyperlink
=09{color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv22798566 a:visited,#yiv22798566 span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
=09{color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}
#yiv22798566 p
=09{margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman";}
#yiv22798566 p.Style1,#yiv22798566 li.Style1,#yiv22798566 div.Style1
=09{margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman";}
#yiv22798566 p.style10,#yiv22798566 li.style10,#yiv22798566 div.style10
=09{margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman";}
#yiv22798566 span.emailstyle19
=09{font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-d=
ecoration:none none;}
#yiv22798566 span.EmailStyle23
=09{font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-d=
ecoration:none none;}
_filtered #yiv22798566 {margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;}
#yiv22798566 div.Section1
=09{}
-->
</STYLE>
<DIV class=3DSection1>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Christine wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DCalibr=
i><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> =E2=80=9C</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=
=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Beyond the "meeting" the princi=
ples of Open Space guide our life and work. I find that those who eng=
age in Open Space appreciate the principles as much as they do the process.=
=E2=80=9D</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Which might suggest, Christine, that all of life =
is open space. </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DWingdings><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dr=
ed size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>Harrison Owen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dr=
ed size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>7808 River Falls Drive</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dr=
ed size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>Potomac, Maryland 20854</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dr=
ed size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>Phone </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">301-365-2093</SPAN></FONT=
></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dr=
ed size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>Skype hhowen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dr=
ed size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>Open Space Training</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: r=
ed"> <A href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofol=
low><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.openspaceworl=
d.com</SPAN></FONT></A> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dr=
ed size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>Open Space Institute</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
red"> <A href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofo=
llow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.openspacewor=
ld.org</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dr=
ed size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>Personal website</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: red"=
> <A href=3D"http://www.ho-image.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT=
face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.ho-image.com</SPAN></F=
ONT></A> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dr=
ed size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>OSLIST</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: r=
ed; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, v=
iew the archives Visit: </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=3D=
"COLOR: red"><A href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html=
" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAM=
ILY: Arial">www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</SPAN></FONT><=
/A></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D=
"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=
=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Mes=
sage-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST [=
mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold"=
>On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Christine Whitney Sanchez<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FON=
T-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, May 09, 2008 1:59 AM<BR><B><SPAN s=
tyle=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR=
><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Open Space 2.=
0 - Beyond the Dogma</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri colo=
r=3Dnavy size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:=
Calibri">Beyond the "meeting" the principles of Open Space guide our life =
and work.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy"> =
;</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dnavy><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: navy=
; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> I find that those who engage in Open Space appreci=
ate the principles as much as they do the process.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DI=
V>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><EM><I><FONT face=3D"Luci=
da Handwriting" color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR=
: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Handwriting'">Christine</SPAN></FONT></I></EM>=
</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri colo=
r=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:=
Calibri">Christine Whitney Sanchez</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><STRONG><B><I><FONT face=
=3DCalibri color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: nav=
y; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">CWS - Collaborative Wisdom &am=
p; Strategy</SPAN></FONT></I></B></STRONG></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri colo=
r=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:=
Calibri">2717 E. Mountain Sky Avenue</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri colo=
r=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:=
Calibri">Phoenix, AZ</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=
=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DCalibri =
color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAM=
ILY: Calibri"> 85048-8990</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DCalibri colo=
r=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY:=
Calibri">480.759.0262</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" color=3Dnavy size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy"><A=
href=3D"http://www.christinewhitneysanchez.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnof=
ollow><FONT face=3DCalibri size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FA=
MILY: Calibri">www.christinewhitneysanchez.com</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FO=
NT><FONT face=3DCalibri color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10p=
t; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><STRONG><B><FONT face=3DC=
alibri color=3Dgreen size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: green;=
FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Please consider the environment before you print thi=
s email</SPAN></FONT></B></STRONG></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DI=
V>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" ali=
gn=3Dcenter><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZ=
E: 12pt">
<HR align=3Dcenter width=3D"100%" SIZE=3D3>
</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; MARG=
IN-RIGHT: 0in"><B><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT fa=
ce=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> =
OSLIST [mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGH=
T: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Harrison Owen<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WE=
IGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:09 AM<BR><B><SPAN sty=
le=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><=
B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Open Space 2.0 =
- Beyond the Dogma</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial color=
=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Ar=
ial">Omitting mention of the 4 Principles certainly can be done, but I am n=
ot sure that would change things in any substantial way. The reason being t=
hat the Principles are descriptive as opposed to prescriptive. In short, th=
ey will happen anyway, mentioned or not. However, one might reasonably ask =
=E2=80=93 why state the obvious? My reason has always been that keeping the=
principles in mind seems to ease the way in Open Space.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial color=
=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Ar=
ial">Harrison</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red;=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison Owen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red;=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">7808 River Falls Drive</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red;=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Potomac, Maryland 20854</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red;=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone 301-365-2093</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red;=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Skype hhowen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red;=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open Space Training</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SP=
AN style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com/" target=
=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Ari=
al">www.openspaceworld.com</SPAN></FONT></A> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red;=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open Space Institute</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><S=
PAN style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target=
=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Ari=
al">www.openspaceworld.org</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red;=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Personal website</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN =
style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A href=3D"http://www.ho-image.com/" target=3D_blank =
rel=3Dnofollow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.ho=
-image.com</SPAN></FONT></A> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT fa=
ce=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red;=
FONT-FAMILY: Arial">OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options=
, view the archives Visit: </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=
=3D"COLOR: red"><A href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.h=
tml" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY: Arial">www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</SPAN></FON=
T></A></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D=
2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original Messag=
e-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> OSLIST [mai=
lto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU] <B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On=
Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Jack Martin Leith<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: b=
old">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, May 04, 2008 8:16 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FON=
T-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU<BR><B><SPAN s=
tyle=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Open Space 2.0 - Beyond =
the Dogma</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hiya Tree.</SPAN></FONT></P></=
DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks for your thoughts on my=
<Open Space 2.0 - Beyond the Dogma> post.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Has OS become arthritic? =
And are certain Open Space practitioners becoming dogmatic?</SPAN></FONT></=
P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Here in the UK the answer is "=
yes".</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I've been to two gatherings of=
OS practitioners, both held in London (I was the co-creator of the first o=
ne) and anyone wandering in from the street would probably have t=
hought they were witnessing a meeting of a religious group or a cult.</SPAN=
></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">At the second of these gatheri=
ngs, structured along "Open Space on Open Space" lines, Paul Levy led a ses=
sion that challenged the four principles of Open Space, and was shot down i=
n flames by a number of people.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">And a year ago he advertised, =
on this very email list, a workshop with a similar theme to the one he=
and I are running in Brighton next week, and received from a prominent OS =
practitioner what ca bes be described as hate mail.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Thanks for your invitation to =
share more of my thoughts. You can find plenty of them here <A href=3D=
"http://www.jackmartinleith.com/?p=3D191" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>ww=
w.jackmartinleith.com/?p=3D191</A> and here <A href=3D"http://www.jackmarti=
nleith.com/?p=3D192" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.jackmartinleith.com=
/?p=3D192</A>, along with some thoughts expressed by people beyond this lis=
t. The purpose of the 14 May workshop is to discover what other people thin=
k.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">My aim (I can't speak for=
Paul) is not for 'better' space at meetings, but for a process which is mo=
st likely to deliver the desired results. Which results? Those that will ge=
nerate as much value as possible for as many parts of the stakeholder syste=
m as possible. I don't see myself as a process facilitator, but rather=
as a results facilitator. As in midwifery, a healthy mother and baby are t=
he first priority. The process has to serve the results. My personal prefer=
ence is for natural methods, but I keep forceps in my back pocket and a sca=
lpel in a glass box, for emergency use only.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If you'd like to take part in =
the discussion through Skype, the user name is <rationalmadness> and =
the timing is 1400 to 1600 British Summer Time, which is one hour ahead of =
GMT.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Best wishes,</SPAN></FONT></P>=
</DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jack</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jack Martin Leith<BR>Bristol, =
United Kingdom<BR>Mobile: 07831 840541 (+44 7831 840541)<BR>Skype: jackmart=
inleith<BR>Facebook: <A href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3D72=
5422325" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3D7=
25422325</A><BR>Facebook group on Open Space Technology: <A href=3D"http://=
www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D7189220743" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow=
>www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D7189220743</A><BR>LinkedIn: <A href=3D"ht=
tp://www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>ww=
w.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith</A><BR>email: <A href=3D"mailto:jack at jack=
martinleith.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>jack at jackmartinleith.com</A=
><BR><A href=3D"http://www.jackmartinleith.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofo=
llow>www.jackmartinleith.com</A> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR> </SPAN></FONT></=
P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2008/5/4 Tree Fitzpatrick <=
<A href=3D"mailto:therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofo=
llow>therese.fitzpatrick at gmail.com</A>>:</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN=
-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SI=
ZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:01 A=
M, Jack Martin Leith <<A href=3D"mailto:jack at jackmartinleith.com" target=
=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>jack at jackmartinleith.com</A>> wrote:</SPAN></FO=
NT></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hiya Harrison.</SPAN></FONT></=
P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Happy that you're not offended=
by our undertaking!</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Maybe it's different on your s=
ide of the pond, but Paul and I have both, separately, noticed the worrying=
extent to which OS certainly has become a dogma over here, sometimes along=
with the words "Harrison Owen" says. (I must put my hand up to having done=
that many times.) We both feel that OS has become somewhat arthritic, and =
overdue for a rethink.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>Open Space Technology is w=
hat it is. Right? How can it become arthritic? I am chall=
enged by your suggestion but I hope you don't perceive that I am challengin=
g you. I am genuinely puzzled. I would welcome more of you thou=
ghts, perhaps some examples of how OS is changing?<BR><BR>How can OS 'becom=
e' anything? It is what it is.<BR><BR>I am wondering if, when you sug=
gest that it is due for a 'rethink', perhaps you are seeing something else,=
or striving to see something else. Perhaps you have a (inchoate?) yearning=
for, please forgive me, 'better' space at meetings.<BR><BR>I don't have Ha=
rrison's depth of experience opening sepace, but I wholeheartedly agree wit=
h what he says about 'second generation open space'. When in doubt, o=
pen more space and if opening more space brings me to a place of doing
nothing, well, for me, then I know I'm doing it right.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>=
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-=
TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 6pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5=
pt 4.8pt; BORDER-LEFT: #cccccc 1pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: =
medium none">
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">What you say is perfectly true=
, and I agree wholeheartedly ... although I'm personaly keen on conversatio=
n that precipitates action ... but all too often it's very different on the=
ground.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Big thanks for your support an=
d encouragement. We'll keep you posted. Steve the Doc has already signed up=
for the Skype option.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Very best,</SPAN></FONT></P></=
DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Jack</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; MARGIN=
-RIGHT: 0in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SI=
ZE: 12pt">Jack Martin Leith<BR>Bristol, United Kingdom<BR>Mobile: 07831 840=
541 (+44 7831 840541)<BR>Skype: jackmartinleith<BR>Facebook: <A href=3D"htt=
p://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3D725422325" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofo=
llow>www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=3D725422325</A><BR>Facebook group on O=
pen Space Technology: <A href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D71=
89220743" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=3D7=
189220743</A><BR>LinkedIn: <A href=3D"http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartin=
leith" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.linkedin.com/in/jackmartinleith</=
A><BR>email: <A href=3D"mailto:jack at jackmartinleith.com" target=3D_blank re=
l=3Dnofollow>jack at jackmartinleith.com</A><BR><A href=3D"http://www.jackmart=
inleith.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>www.jackmartinleith.com</A> </=
SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2008/4/30 Harrison Owen <<A=
href=3D"mailto:hhowen at verizon.net" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>hhowen at v=
erizon.net</A>>: </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-=
TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 6pt; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; MARGIN: 5pt 0in 5=
pt 4.8pt; BORDER-LEFT: #cccccc 1pt solid; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: =
medium none">
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sounds like a ma=
rvelous under taking, but I am not sure about all this "Dogma" business. Do=
gma in my lexicon is a whole bunch of stuff that you have to do/believe. My=
experience with OST is that it is all about thinking of one more thing NOT=
to do =E2=80=93 or believe. The end of the line, or indeed the next iterat=
ion, would involve doing nothing at all, and where "belief" translated into=
pure experience. You were just "there" in that present moment being fully =
what you (we) already were =E2=80=93 full, conscious, passionate, responsib=
le human beings. My experience with most of the 2<SUP>nd</SUP> Generation O=
pen Spaces is that they seem to involve more and different doing and believ=
ing. To my eyes this seems to be going in the wrong direction. But what do =
I know? Have fun!!</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison</SPAN><=
/FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; F=
ONT-FAMILY: Arial">Harrison Owen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; F=
ONT-FAMILY: Arial">7808 River Falls Drive</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; F=
ONT-FAMILY: Arial">Potomac, Maryland 20854</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; F=
ONT-FAMILY: Arial">Phone 301-365-2093</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: red; F=
ONT-FAMILY: Arial">Skype hhowen</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; F=
ONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open Space Training</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN=
style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.com/" target=3D=
_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"=
>www.openspaceworld.com</SPAN></FONT></A> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; F=
ONT-FAMILY: Arial">Open Space Institute</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPA=
N style=3D"COLOR: red"> <A href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target=
=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Ari=
al">www.openspaceworld.org</SPAN></FONT></A></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; F=
ONT-FAMILY: Arial">Personal website</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN st=
yle=3D"COLOR: red"> <A href=3D"http://www.ho-image.com/" target=3D_blank re=
l=3Dnofollow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial">www.ho-i=
mage.com</SPAN></FONT></A> </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=3Dcenter><FONT face=
=3DArial color=3Dred size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: red; F=
ONT-FAMILY: Arial">OSLIST: To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, =
view the archives Visit: </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dred><SPAN style=
=3D"COLOR: red"><A href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.h=
tml" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow><FONT face=3DArial><SPAN style=3D"FONT-=
FAMILY: Arial">www.listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</SPAN></FON=
T></A></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></=
DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* * =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
<A href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target=3D_blank rel=3Dno=
follow>OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU</A> ------------------------------ To=
subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of <A href=
=3D"mailto:oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>o=
slist at listserv.boisestate.edu</A>: <A href=3D"http://listserv.boisestate.ed=
u/archives/oslist.html" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://listserv.bois=
estate.edu/archives/oslist.html</A> To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and =
OSLIST FAQs: <A href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist" target=3D_bla=
nk rel=3Dnofollow>http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</A> </SPAN></FONT></=
P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR clear=3Dall><BR>-- <BR=
>Love rays,<BR>Tree Fitzpatrick<BR><BR><A href=3D"http://thecultureoflove.b=
logspot.com/" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://thecultureoflove.blogsp=
ot.com/</A><BR><BR>. . . the great and incalculable grace of love, which sa=
ys, with Augustine, "I want you to be," without being able to give any part=
icular reason for such supreme and unsurpassable affirmation. -- Hannah Are=
ndt<BR><BR>1335 Montecito Ave Apt. 35<BR>Mountain View, California 94043<BR=
>(650) 967-9260 * * =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D <A href=3D"mailto:OSLIST at LIST=
SERV.BOISESTATE.EDU" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISEST=
ATE.EDU</A> ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, chang=
e your options, view the archives of <A href=3D"mailto:oslist at listserv.bois=
estate.edu" target=3D_blank
rel=3Dnofollow>oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu</A>: <A href=3D"http://lists=
erv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>htt=
p://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html</A> To learn about OpenSpa=
ceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: <A href=3D"http://www.openspaceworld.org/osli=
st" target=3D_blank rel=3Dnofollow>http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</A>=
</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in"><FONT face=3D"Times New Rom=
an" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR><BR clear=3Dall>* * =3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU -------------------------=
----- To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of =
oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/osl=
ist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.ope=
nspaceworld.org/oslist </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times New R=
oman" size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">* * =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe=
, unsubscribe, change your options, view the archives of oslist at listserv.bo=
isestate.edu: http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn =
about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/os=
list </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>* * =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D OSLIST at LISTSERV.B=
OISESTATE.EDU ------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, cha=
nge your options, view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu: http=
://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEma=
ilLists and OSLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist * * =3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
------------------------------ To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your opti=
ons, view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu: http://listserv.b=
oisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and O=
SLIST FAQs: http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></t=
r></table><br>=0A=0A <hr size=3D1>Be a better friend, newshound, and =
=0Aknow-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. <a href=3D"http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=3D=
51733/*http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=3DAhu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ "> Try =
it now.</a>
*
*
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
OSLIST at LISTSERV.BOISESTATE.EDU
------------------------------
To subscribe, unsubscribe, change your options,
view the archives of oslist at listserv.boisestate.edu:
http://listserv.boisestate.edu/archives/oslist.html
To learn about OpenSpaceEmailLists and OSLIST FAQs:
http://www.openspaceworld.org/oslist
More information about the OSList
mailing list