OS in Turkey

Evren Kildirli evren at aatorganizasyon.com
Thu May 22 02:22:21 PDT 2008 

Dear Agneta,

Hello from Turkey. Your contact easily reach us below adresses and phone
number. We really glad to help him.

www.aatorganizasyon.com
evren at aatorganizasyon.com
funda at aatorganizasyon.com

tel:05336619871

Have a good day,

Evren Kildirli



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Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [OSLIST] help 50 000 baloons and OS Turkey

Dear Agneta,
its simple, just go to
> http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/

Click on MENU at the bottom of the map and then on WANT TO INCLUDE YOURSELF?
Fill in the form, bingo.
You will receive an automatic response telling you that you have 
included yourself.
I will then actually put you in by hand (one day that will also be 
automatic) and tell you about it.
Good luck!
Greetings from Berlin
mmp


Skaparlust wrote:
> Thank you Michael for the information which I will forward.
> I will put myself on the map soon, how do I go about it?
> Greetings
> Agneta
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 12:25 PM
> Subject: Re: help 50 000 baloons and OS Turkey
> 
> 
>> Dear Agneta,
>> have a look in the world map
>>> http://www.openspaceworldmap.org/
>>
>> Click on Turkey and you will find 5 great colleagues, for a starter.
>> If there are more of you out there in Turkey (or elsewhere for that 
>> matter) and you would like to be found quick and easy and show the 
>> rest of the world how Open Space workers abound on this planet, you 
>> are invited to include yourself in the map.
>> And you, Agneta, are also invited, of course! (joining those 9 already 
>> listed for Sweden!)
>> Greetings from Berlin
>> mmp
>>
>> Skaparlust wrote:
>>> Hi dear list
>>> Someone mailed a warning against letting loose baloons in the air. 
>>> I´d like to have contact since the city of Stockholm is planning to 
>>> celebrate our national day on June 6 with the release of 50 000 
>>> baloons on the water front! I need facts to start a protest list!
>>>
>>> Another question. Who is working with Open Space in Turkey? A contact 
>>> of mine, a man in a union organization works with likewise in Turkey. 
>>> He might need some help and also in thinking around leadership 
>>> education. Someone out there?
>>>
>>> Best regards from
>>> Agneta Falk
>>> Sweden
>>>
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>From  Thu May 22 11:50:35 2008
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 11:50:35 +0200
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From: Thomas Herrmann <thomas at openspaceconsulting.com>
Organization: Open Space Consulting
Subject: SV: Resulting 4p & L2F in 10 languages
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Marina and Elena and other Russian speaking
I've got corrections from you, just to make sure I don't mess everything up - can you please send the full version again. 
Regarding the law - I only have translations for "The law of two feet/mobility" - in other languages - so that'll do for my purposes.

And if you don't all agree on the wording - I won't sort that out ;-)
Warm regards
Thomas

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Dear Thomas!

In Russian the same story like in German. It's right to say "Что бы ни
случилось, это единственное, что ĞœĞžĞ“Ğ›Ğž произойти (Ğ° не ĞœĞžĞ–Ğ•Ğ¢ произойти).
The Law of two feet could be explained differently:Если вы обнаружите, что
оказались в ситуацияÑ
, где вы не можете чему-либо научиться или сделать
какой-либо вклад "используйте свои две ноги или эквивалент, чтобы перейти в
другое место, где вы сможете научиться чему-нибудь или внести вклад". It's a
bit long, but this is how we use it.

Best regards from sunny Novosibirsk,

Marina Tyasto
 

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From: Michael M Pannwitz [mailto:mmpanne at boscop.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 10:25 PM
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Subject: Re: Resulting 4p & L2F in 10 languages


Very nice, Thomas!
One small but significant adjustment in the German version of
"Whatever happens is the only thing that could have":
the last word in the adaptation that I use is "konnte" instead of "kann".
If you translate "kann" back from German to English (I mean the language 
ho uses) the English version would then turn into
"Whatever happened is the only thing that can happen".
That carries a different conotation if not even a really different way 
of seeing the world.
And I am not sure that an open space event will really work if we do not 
pay strict attention to such important details.
Have a grand day
Greetings from Berlin
mmp



Thomas Herrmann wrote:
> Dear friends in Open Space – it worked!
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Thomas
> 
>  
> 
> The four principles and the law in 10 languages:
> 
>  
> 
> FRENCH
> 
>  
> 
> Quatre principes
> 
> 1.      Tous ceux qui participent sont les bonnes personnes
> WHOEVER COMES IS THE RIGHT PEOPLE 
> 
> 2.      Quand cela commence c’est le bon moment
> 
> WHENEVER IT STARTS IS THE RIGHT TIME
> 
> 3.      Ce qui arrive est ce qui devait arriver
> 
> WHATEVER HAPPENS IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE 
> 
> 4.      Quand c’est fini c’est fini
> 
> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER 
> 
> The Law of two feet
> 
> Loi des deux pieds ou loi des deux jambes
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ESTONIAN
> 
>  
> 
> 1.      Kohal on õiged inimesed 
> 
> WHOEVER COMES IS THE RIGHT PERSON
> 
> 2.      Kui see algab,on õige aeg 
> 
> WHENEVER IT STARTS IS THE RIGHT TIME
> 
> 3.      Juhtuvad õiged asjad 
> 
> WHATEVER HAPPENS IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE
> 
> 4.      Kui see on läbi,siis see on läbi 
> 
> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER
> 
>  
> 
> The law of two feet
> 
>  
> 
> KAHE JALA SEADUS - kui sa ei õpi ega ütle, astu edasi!
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> SPANISH
> 
>  
> 
> Los cuatro principios
> 
> 1.      Quien viene es quien debe venir
> 
> 2.      Comienza cuando es el tiempo
> 
> 3.      Lo que sucede es lo que debe suceder
> 
> 4.      Termina cuando termina
> 
>  
> 
> La ley de los dos pies o Ley de la Movilidad
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> GERMAN
> 
>  
> 
> Vier Grundsätze
> 
>  
> 
> 1.      Die da sind, sind genau die Richtigen.
> 
> 2.      Es fängt an, wenn die Zeit reif ist.
> 
> 3.      Was auch immer geschieht: Es ist das Einzige, was geschehen kann.
> 
> 4.      Vorbei ist vorbei - Nicht vorbei ist nicht vorbei.
> 
>  
> 
> The law of two feet - Das Gesetz der zwei Füße (Fuesse)
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> ITALIAN
> 
>  
> 
> 1.      Chiunque venga è la persona giusta
> 
> WHOEVER COMES IS THE RIGHT PERSON
> 
> 2.      In qualsiasi momento cominci è il momento giusto
> 
> WHENEVER IT STARTS IS THE RIGHT TIME
> 
> 3.      Qualsiasi cosa accada è l'unica che poteva accadere
> 
> WHATEVER HAPPENS IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE
> 
> 4.      Quando è finita è finita
> 
> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER
> 
>  
> 
> The law of two feet
> 
> La legge dei due piede
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> SERBIAN
> 
>  
> 
> èetiri prinicipa (prinicipi)
> 
> 1. Whatever happens is the only thing that could have.
>     Å tagod da se desi, jedino je Å¡to se moglo desiti.
> 
> 2. When it's over, it's over.
>     Gotovo je kada je gotovo.
> 
> 3. Whenever it starts is the right time.
>     Kadgod da počne, to je u pravo vreme.
> 
> 4. Whoever comes is the right people.
>     Ko god da dođe, prava je osoba.
> 
> The law of two feet - Zakon dva stopala
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> RUSSIAN
> 
>  
> 
> 4 Принципа
> 
> 4 Principles
> 
>  
> 
> 1.       Кто бы ни пришел – это правильные Ğ»ÑŽĞ´Ğ¸.
> 
> Whoever comes…
> 
>  
> 
> 2.       Когда бы это ни началось – это правильное время
> 
> Whenever it starts…
> 
>  
> 
> 3.       Что бы ни случилось  - это единственное, что может произойти 
> 
> Whatever happens,,,
> 
>  
> 
> 4.        Когда он закончится – тогда и закончится 
> 
> When it’s over…
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Ğ—ĞĞšĞžĞ ДВУХ ĞĞžĞ“
> 
> 
> Law of two feet
> 
>  
> 
> Если вы обнаружите, что оказались в ситуацияÑ
, где вы не можете чему-либо
научиться или сделать какой-либо вклад, вы ответственны за то, чтобы перейти
в другое место, например, в Ğ´Ñ€ÑƒĞ³ÑƒÑŽ группу.
> 
>  
> 
> If you find yourself in a situation where you cannot learn nor make a
contribution…
> 
>  
> 
> LITHUANIAN
> 
> Four Principles – keturi dėsniai
> 
> WHOEVER COMES IS THE RIGHT PEOPLE – KAS ATEINA YRA TINKAMI ŽMONĖS 
> 
> WHENEVER IT STARTS IS THE RIGHT TIME – KADA PRASIDEDA, TADA IR TURI
PRASIDÄ–TI
> 
> WHATEVER HAPPENS IS THE ONLY THING THAT COULD HAVE – KAS BEATSITIKTŲ, TIK
TAI IR GALI ATSITIKTI 
> 
> WHEN IT'S OVER, IT'S OVER – KADA BAIGIASI, TADA BAIGIASI
> 
>  
> 
> The law of two feet – DVIEJŲ PĖDŲ DĖSNIS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> LATVIAN
> 
> Principles:
> 
>  
> 
> 1. Whatever happens is the only thing that could have.
> 
> 1. Kasvien nenotiks ir vienīgais kas notikt varēja.
> 
>  
> 
> 2. When it's over, it's over.
> 
> 2. Kad tas ir cauri, tas ir cauri.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 3. Whenever it starts is the right time.
> 
> 3. Prieks sākšanas veinmēr ir pareiz laiks.
> 
>  
> 
> 4. Whoever comes is the right people.
> 
> 4. Katrs atnācējs (kas piedalās) ir ielūgts.
> 
>  
> 
> The law of two feet
> 
> Divu kāju likums:
> 
>  
> 
> SWEDISH
> 
> FYRA PRINCIPER
> Vilka som än kommer är rätt personer
> Vad som än händer är det enda som kunde hända
> När det än börjar är det rätt tid
> När det är slut så är det slut
> 
> En lag: Använd fötterna
> 
>  
> 
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