Initiation

Michael M Pannwitz mmpanne at boscop.org
Sat Apr 5 10:04:38 PDT 2008


Dear Artur,
in your quote of the translation of "iniciação"
it is called "exoteric" practice which is the opposite, I think, of 
esotric. I have always called Open Space Technology an exoteric method 
it being very transparent with no mumbojumbo or secret parts visible 
only to the "inner circle" ....
So calling it an initiation is not attaching "esoteric" to it in my line 
of thinking
Greetings from Berlin
mmp

Artur Silva wrote:
> Adding another language (a third one?) to the confusion.
> 
> In Portuguese, "beginning" translates as "início" that is similar to
> "initiation". So I have always translated "Initiation" as "início",
> hence "beginning", or "geting things started".
> 
> But now that my attention has been captured to that, the word
> "iniciação" exists in Portuguese, meaning "being initiated to a
> religion or (other) exoteric practice" and is the correct translation
> of "initiation".
> 
> Hence, Harrison, either use "beginning" instead of "initiation" or
> accept an esoteric ressemblance of the OST "beginning" ;-)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Artur --------
> 
> Harrison Owen <hhowen at verizon.net> wrote: Well Martin – here is proof
> that maybe things are changing? Used to was (as GBS) was won’t to
> say, Brits and Yanks were “two people separated by a common
> language.”
> 
> HO
> 
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> Raffi,
> 
> 
> 
> My understanding of "initiation" in this context is "getting things
> started".
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes to you,
> 
> 
> 
> Jack
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> On 31/03/2008, Raffi Aftandelian <raffi at bk.ru> wrote: Dear listers,
> 
> While working through the OST User's Guide a few months ago, I
> noticed the word "initiation" in Chapter 6, "Creating Time and Space"
> as the word marking the opening of the space.
> 
> The Guide explains that initiation has these stages:
> 
> 1. Welcome 2. Focus the Group 3. State the Theme 4. Describe the
> Process 5. Create the Community Bulletin Board 6. Open the Village
> Marketplace 7. Get out of the way!
> 
> How do you understand this word?
> 
> Harrison, what did you mean by this word?
> 
> It seems to hark back to your discussion of liturgy and the
> badly-needed creation of a/the new life story in "Spirit:
> Transformation and Development in Organizations."
> 
> appreciatively, raffi
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