please ignore!

Melinda Salazar msalazar at cisunix.unh.edu
Sat Sep 8 04:09:54 PDT 2007 

sorry, all. that was a mistake post meant for one individual.
On Sep 8, 2007, at 6:46 AM, Melinda Salazar wrote:

just woke up and looked at handout. this week at cloud they call  
their SYNERGY WEEK which now that i read at least the first paragraph  
leads me to believe they know and use fleck!!!  just a guess...
On Sep 7, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Diane Brandon wrote:

Michael, thank you for those thoughts.

And let me point out that the email I sent to the OS list on August  
23rd just arrived in my inbox!

When I convened a session on this topic in Camden yesterday, people  
talked about this thread having been online -- but I hadn't seen it.  
A bit of a mystery.

In any case, I'm clear about how to proceed with our event (not  
facilitating at it), after the session in Camden.

Thanks to all,

Diane



On Sep 7, 2007, at 9:24 PM, Michael M Pannwitz wrote:

> Dear Diane,
> for sponsors, members of the planning committee and others involved  
> in the issue at hand its wonderful to be fully in the participant  
> mode and not to also be involved in other tasks infringing on their  
> passion.
> In other words, its great to have a facilitator that can fully  
> attend to holding time and space.
> When Harrison and I worked with Immams and Rabbis from around the  
> globe in Sevilla last year it was important for them to have the  
> facilitation done by people "outside" of those religions, Christian  
> seemed to be fine.
> I experienced the same thing with Israelis and Palestinians last  
> year in Switzerland, they insisted on having someone from another  
> place...being a German born naturalized US citizen appeared to be ok.
> Basically, I think, facilitators clear about their role regardless  
> of what nationality, culture, etc. can do a splendid job...the  
> sponsor may have some idea on what the group will "accept".
> Have a great time at your event
> greetings from Berlin
> mmp
>
> Diane Brandon wrote:
>> Brendan, your reference to "both sponsor and facilitator" reminds  
>> me that I want to explore that topic, here on the list and/or  
>> perhaps by posting a session at the OSonOS that's coming up in  
>> Camden.
>> Space will be opened on 9/22 in Eliot, Maine, for at least that  
>> one afternoon, and hopefully to continue Sunday morning, for an  
>> interfaith "education for sustainable development" (ESD)  
>> conference. (If you want to see some good interfaith materials,  
>> check out this Canadian website:  http://www.faith-commongood.net/ )
>> Saturday morning 9/22 will open with a keynote about the national  
>> and international ESD faith sector work, then a short fishbowl  
>> dialogue on same, followed by a cafe time. After lunch, open space.
>> We had an afternoon of OS last year at the conference, and it went  
>> very well. Peter Adriance, the keynoter (known to Chris C) opened  
>> the space last year, but we both agreed that I should take the  
>> leap and do it this year.... and now I'm having second thoughts.
>> What are the implications of both being on the planning committee  
>> for the conference, being a member of the primary "host" faith,  
>> and opening the space in the afternoon? Peter wore all of those  
>> hats last year, and it didn't seem to create any problems, but  
>> last year it was a primarily Baha'i weekend conference, and this  
>> year it's interfaith, but hosted at a Baha'i facility. So.....  
>> perhaps it would be better to have a person of a different faith  
>> open the space, to prevent us Baha'i hosts from being too dominant  
>> in owning the processes?
>> The planning team includes people of several different faiths --  
>> Quaker, UU, UCC, Catholic -- and others (including a Rabbi) are on  
>> the email list for the planning process, and have been involved in  
>> 1:1 planning meetings. One person on the planning team, from the  
>> local UU church, has opened space before in his professional work  
>> for U. Maine Extension... would it be better if he does it for the  
>> conference this year? Or should we have a complete "outsider" (not  
>> involved in planning, co-sponsoring, hosting, etc.) open the space?
>> I'm  happy to hear any thoughts,
>> Diane Brandon (with my conference planner hat on)
>> Eliot, Maine
>> On Aug 21, 2007, at 9:08 PM, Brendan McKeague wrote:
>>> Kaliya - it sounds as though you have been both sponsor and  
>>> facilitator of growing an 'open space culture' in your community  
>>> over time...
>>> and you have been successful in achieving what you set out to  
>>> do.....
>>> The journey from semi-circle to circle worked!
>>> Cheers
>>> Brendan
>>>
>>> At 06:10 AM 22/08/2007, you wrote:
>>>> What I put forward to you has worked really well for me in the  
>>>> Tech communities I have grown and cultivated.
>>>>
>>>>  I have an very high level of credibility and trust among very  
>>>> very senior people in the industry (to people in BIG  
>>>> corporations) in part because I built trust with them and the  
>>>> community I helped to build "OVER TIME" (we are having our 5th  
>>>> event in the fall (we do them every 6 months).  This last OST we  
>>>> closed with a group poem. My goal with each event is to expand  
>>>> their process horizons every time.
>>>>
>>>>  These people now tell me they have a much lower tolerance for  
>>>> 'talking heads' conferences and events with 5 papers....they are  
>>>> in love with open space.
>>>>
>>>>   Part of the reason for this I believe was my choice - my  
>>>> perception of where they were at culturally as a group and what  
>>>> i could do - interms  of pushing their boundaries - (having NO  
>>>> agenda was already pushing it at the beginning) an not going  
>>>> 'over board' in the pushing. It is not like I had a client or  
>>>> committee I was pleasing by not doing a circle- I was it - the  
>>>> designer/facilitator (I always run my event designs by my co- 
>>>> producer and a process ally in my tech community)..
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